The bullshit just keeps on going……..I don’t know why GC feels the need to debunk such an obviously BS story. Maybe they can get another 600+ comments, after all, every hit is money in their pocket. I don’t think their is anyone who actually believes In Touch, OK, or any of the other useless rags that are out there. I certainly would never have known this story existed if GC didn’t spread it around. This is how the rumor mill is perpetuated.

She’s just speaking optimistic words, there’s nothing wrong with that. But you’re right no one is physic here.

Oh for fuck’s sakes….. Stop posting this shit.

I agree. If all things remain the same I can see them being engaged. Actually I think it is already at that committment level. However they are both the type that would never pull a PR stunt like announcing an engagement right in time for Breaking Dawn promotion. They aren’t like another cast member we know.

Total disclosure: I consider myself a Twi-Hard and love Rob & Kristen together.

That said, I bet that if they do ever become engaged, Rob would give her an engagement ring that any other girl would be sad to accept. Something from an thrift shop that’s worth maybe 15 bucks.

Yes, because that’s what millionaires who want to spend the rest of their lives with someone do.

Stupid.

No im betting it will look exactly like Bella’s ;)

My favorite is when these rags use paparazzi shots from MOVIE SETS and build a story around them! Back when Breaking Dawn was filming in Brazil, I saw a mag in the grocery store that said Rob and Kristen (not Bella and Edward) had eloped, and used pics of them swimming from the movie set to show their “romantic tropical honeymoon.” Can’t believe people continue to fall for that.

That said, I hope Rob and Kristen stay together and remain as happy as they seem to be now, and maybe enjoy a private honeymoon of their own one day. :)

Lmao, once again Rpattzlover28 completely agree with you. :)

Funny Kristen blabbed about her supposedly private life, in time for her movie premiere, but Rob hasn’t said one word about their status. And the GQ interview was from July, before ComicCon and before she went off to the UK alone. Rob stayed in LA for over a month until he had to go to his godson’s christening and he made sure he wasn’t photographed by the paps with KStew while he was there for 10 days.

I’ll bet when he’s asked about it he makes a joke or says they’re friends. He knows how to keep something private, private. But then, he’s not desperate for attention the way she is. He’s been seen out a lot in LA, having fun, not working. He may or may not be in London right now, we’ll know soon enough, but she’s behind schedule on her SW movie, so it’s not like she’s going to have a lot of time to hang out in pubs with Rob but maybe Tom will.

For 2 people who’ve said they don’t want to “sell” their private lives, getting engaged anytime this year would be beyond stupid. It would just look like PR for the movie. Those gossip magazines would say anything to sell mags, but shippers are just as bad, making up fake tweets and starting rumors that have no basis in fact.

Rob’s yet to comment on Kristen’s verbal diarrhea, I can’t wait to hear what he has to say. He’s not going to win any awards for appearing to be interested in spending time with her, that’s for sure.

The pair of gays would have to go straight first.

Oh, yuck!

Funny how you nonstens believe Gossipcop when they state Rob and Kristen are not engaged but not that they’re “happily dating.”

Nice try, but Rob hasn’t said “they’re friends” since May 2009, well over 2 years ago.

Rob has not been seen out a lot in LA. Where are the pics? Next you’re going to say Rob has a mystery blonde girlfriend in LA he’s spending his time with and somehow no one has EVER gotten a picture of her, lol.

Together or apart, I just hope they both live happy adventurous lives.

“Rob’s yet to comment on Kristen’s verbal diarrhea, I can’t wait to hear what he has to say. He’s not going to win any awards for appearing to be interested in spending time with her, that’s for sure.”

this comment makes me laugh. since when has robert pattinson ever cared about what other people think? remember that interview he did with josh horowitz from comic con? he said that he didn’t care what the audiences thought if he decided to do another movie with kristen. that right there says it all.

I agree with you and yes no one here knows them or what will happen in the future.

You don’t need a link if you read it. It says it was conducted in a cafe in LA, before she went over to London to work on SW. That was in July, before ComicCon.

And Rob hasn’t said a word since the interview came out to confirm it and I’m betting he doesn’t confirm it, either. He’ll say something about how print interviews always have misquotes and things get messed up, but he won’t admit they’re anything more than friends. Just wait and see. She tried to force his hand, and he doesn’t play that game.

Oh? And what makes you think the lovely Kristen and handsome Robert are homosexual?

Do tell – thrill us with your insight.

Or ha ha, lacking insight, which I guarantee is a given, could it be you’re just a simple bigot? Merely confused over your own sexuality?

You missed the part where she was blabbing about her “boyfriend” at the photo shoot? And then when the reporter asked her about it, instead of asking him to keep it off the record she gushed on and on about it. That’s verbal diarrhea, in case you were confused. Someone who had previously said they wouldn’t talk about their personal relationship and then did it like that is a hypocrite or is just desperately seeking attention, you choose.

Clear and insightful my foot. Well, maybe what she had to say about all her teachers failing her was very insightful, as to how she’s had that sense of entitlement from a young age. Instead of working hard for something she thinks people are just supposed to dance to her tune and do whatever is convenient for her. Too bad her homeschooling didn’t teach her how to respect other people’s feelings and how to keep her mouth shut about relationships that are supposed to be private.

Different people – different opinions ;-)

Different people – different opinions ;-)

And long may it continue! ;-))

You don’t know why Rob was in LA. I would think an actual vacation would be going somewhere away from where his base is. Your counting days doesn’t mean anything to Rob and Kristen, so why even bother. He was in the studio with Sam, maybe he was working with him. He was also seen at a film studio and another recording studio recently. So what if he went to a party and some bars. People who have jobs do those things too so you aren’t proving anything. I hope has been able to have some head clearing time and also find a new film to work on once BD promo is over. I am not sure if you are a Rob fan because you seem to want him to do nothing work-wise and only wish him away from Kristen. Nice fan.

Now there are tweets placing him in England. Sounds like he got off the plane and first person he went to see was Kristen. I don’t know if you know this or not but Rob has lots of friends and family in London, if he were truly on vacation I would think he would have been back sooner. Why not jot stop counting days as though it means anything and actually be a fan and hope he is happy.

What did you expect Rob to do? Release a statement? Just blurt it out at CC? I don’t remember anyone asking him if they were a couple or not, so why would he just come out and say it?

You forget that Rob walked out of his big premiere for WFE proudly holding Kristen’s hand and people at the after party commented how they were holding hands there too. And he held her hand leaving that party and tried to plant a kiss on her in the car. After that during WFE interviews when people talked about his girlfriend Kristen he didn’t deny or say they were just friends, he just went with it. When asked where his girlfriend was he said “she’s back in LA.” You forget all of that don’t you? Yes, so just wait and see.

OK well like I said say what you like but then so will I..when has he been interviewed and questioned about this statement from Kristen to deny it?..he hasnt..and even if he was he wouldnt deny it just like he hasnt in over two yrs…niether one of them have really outright verbally confirmed but also neither one of them has denied..if anything I think they feel its so “obvious” why would they?..I cant believe some people believe they are still not a couple…If you are sitting around whating on him to send you a personal letter letting you know all about his GF and personal life you are going to be waiting a very long time.

This counter who is constantly posting under different names is no fan of Rob’s. She makes him out to be a douchebag who is a selfish cad and doesn’t care about his girlfriend or family. And yes, it is scary.

Didn’t you know chelcp, that Rob can’t stand to be in the same country as Kristen, LOL?!!!

And yet, YOU were the first to comment…

Wow. GC really needs to set an age limit. You must be older than 12 to post here.

Nice come back. (That was sarcasm, by the way.) I am older than 12. Mid-twenties actually. I think my response to your inital comments was mature and logical, essentially arguing that unless you are Rob and/or Kristen, you don’t know their day-to-day lives, including purchases. Your standards perhaps are different from theirs, and I find it incredible that you have the gall to essentially dictate how anyone should spend their money. It isn’t any of your business. I think that they have proven time and time again that they will do what they want to do, and d@mn anyone who thinks that they have a say in how they live their lives.

I’m completely “chilled,” ok? However, I still don’t believe this is best. Those people who believe these rags, well, if they believe this crap then they are already lost to it. GC isn’t helping anything. Speaking personally, if it were a rumor going around about me, I’d just want it to stop. The best way for me to do this is to confront it myself, no one can do that for me.

Thank you. Unfortunately, this is the way it goes here. I am not even speaking of the two people involved in the rumor, I am speaking of rumors themselves and still they attack. Shows their mentality, doesn’t it? But, thanks anyway!

I agree with you, but she never said Rob’s name. She said “my boyfriend is English.” I guess everyone has the right to ASSUME she meant Rob but, I will not assume anything.

I agree. However, if he is in London, it makes sense to me that he would be there because he was born and raised there. Now, I am NOT saying he will not visit with KS, they are friends after all. What I am saying is that because he is from there, he will eventually go back and spend some real time there visiting with family and friends. It will not be because of KS being there.
Let the attacks begin!

Ah, but they are frequently rude. I’m tired of all the Kristen insults and Rob insults. I’m a fan of both.

The absence of denial is not an admission……

No, I think you misunderstand what is being said. Of course, what others have said that is disparaging is not right. I hope you don’t think that I am saying you must praise Rob because that is not what I am saying at all. It’s just that what you said was kind of like making disparaging remarks towards Rob, too. I think cheap is totally different from thrifty. I think that if Rob were to ever get engaged, he wouldn’t get an insanely expensive rock, but I think it would be tasteful. Remember, it wasn’t so long ago that Rob was broke and between jobs. Maybe he got good at being thrifty for that reason? I also believe that Rob doesn’t believe that money is everything either. There’s nothing wrong with that, is there? In the end, none of us can take it with us when we go. True love is more important than the size and cost of an engagment ring.

Well, i only said that they will be engaged one day, because i know it!
Not talking are they or aren’t they together, right?!

I happen to believe, as do many that teachers are an INVALUABLE and PRECIOUS resource. Think about it, everyone who is successful now, they all had teachers. Even teachers had teachers. They are very important to society. And I also happen to believe that your education is your responsibility. Yes, teachers have a responsibility to each of their students, but they don’t just have one kid at a time to teach either. They have anywhere from 15 to 35 students at a time, and to me that is just sad because student/teacher ratio is very important. Is it the teachers fault that the student will not do their school/homework? And what about the parents? Is it not the parents’ responsibility to see that their kids are being responsible for their education? I for one am very involved in my child’s education and I have taught her to be responsible for her own education while backing her up by helping her do homework and being involved in her education. I have also taught her to be respectful to her teachers and everyone else.
Having said all that, I know there are bad teachers out there; I have had a couple of them during my high school career. But I have to say that the other 98% were the most awesome and caring teachers in the world. **98%**

Thier sexuality is none of your business!! I find it terrible that you would say such things.

Esquire called KStew out for her sense of snarling entitlement after her disastrous Oscar appearance. See:

“For starters, take Kristen Stewart, biting her lip in protest — as per usual — on her way to the podium on Oscar night. Pattinson’s Twilight co-star was all gorgeous, coiled sulk — a hilarious counterweight to co-presenter (and her other Twilight co-star) Taylor Lautner, whose plasticine perma-grin defied Stewart’s public existential crisis. Lautner may seem all looks and no brains, but at least he knows when to live in his abject superstardom. Not so with the nineteen-year-old Stewart, who despite growing up in Hollywood and having acted half her life still insists on playing the outsider.

In fairness, I can’t imagine the pressure of being tethered to her Twilight siren, Bella Swan, for years to come, either. Yet this contrived distance between the Stewart who’ll soon appear as a young Joan Jett in The Runaways and the one who’ll throw herself at Pattinson and/or Lautner this summer in Eclipse has stretched too thin to support the young woman in the middle. Discomfort in one’s skin is one thing. Snarling entitlement is another. “

even if he hasn’t been to see kristen on set, he hasn’t been back to london to see his family either. you gotta take that into account. also, don’t know if this is true or not but recently, he’s been seen in london and that too on the swath set.

“Because I know it!”? Really? You could not possibly know anything about either of these people or their private lives. You are assuming, and that is it. Just because you want this for them doesn’t mean they want it for themselves. Stop assuming to know their minds and feelings, it is impossible.

Leighton, actually Kristen said in GQ “When I get married” so you can’t say she doesn’t want to get married.

Ahhh, but no one was being rude here until you spoke up. Were they? NO. If you don’t want others to be rude, perhaps you should lead by example.
BTW, you robstens say the past doesn’t matter, right? Nor do past comments, rude or not, matter now. So, don’t use the past as an excuse to be rude to others now.

Hello, I was reading an ariticle about Andrea Gabriel, she play the head of a coven in BD, she
plays Kebi, they asked her about Robert Pattinson and this is what she said: He is young,
extremely quirky, adorable, and you would not believe how shy he is, she said when they
explained how the love scenes went down, that Robert was so shy, and would put his head
looking down to the ground, and his face would be beat red. these are people that work with
him so honestly, this guy is no player. He is just an actor, humble, and genuinely shy. I guess
we don’t see that side of him, but a player I do not think so.

For @Robsessed1986 and @Jennifer.

I’m English – watch this by Pink Floyd.

Tells you all you need to know about your so-called “Precious Resources”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4SKL7f9n58&feature=related

I won’t watch a Pink Floyd video, sorry. I’m pretty sure I’ve already seen it anyway. Besides, I was not just speaking in terms of American teachers. I was speaking in terms of world wide. And no matter what you say, teachers are important. Who taught you to read and write, do math, your country’s history, etc? I would venture to say that it wasn’t just your parents. No country has a population that is entirely perfect, just as no country has a population of teachers that are perfect. I believe that learning is life long and that it is not only done in classrooms, but is, in fact, done everywhere that you go, and done within everything that you do. If you want to disagree, that’s fine. But I will have my say and that is that. I respect teachers who work hard for their degree, work to teach our kids, and get paid and treated like crap. It is obvious to me that they do it because they love kids and love to teach. If it were for the glamour, fame, and money; there would be no teachers.

BTW, I’m glad Kristen participates in those programs. More people need to do the same. I am currently working in a service learning project to end food insecurity.

sweetie they are not rude to fans, only pis sed with paps

dont think he personally mentioned that to you. he hates people like you

@Robsessed1986 1 hour ago: “I believe that learning is life long and that it is not only done in classrooms, but is, in fact, done everywhere that you go, and done within everything that you do.”

@Robsessed1986 1 hour ago: “I won’t watch a Pink Floyd video, sorry.”

You can lead a horse to water…

robert pattinson has twitter?

I’m not saying it’s 100% true, but there have been some tweets and nothing of him in LA. He supposedly has an interview there this week so it’s not so hard to believe he is there.

But there’s no proof it is fake either. It’s not like Rob hasn’t visited Kristen on set before.

So far none of the tweets about Rob being in London have been confirmed. Random tweets by shippers saying he’s visiting KStew are just their fantasies. He may or may not be in London, but that doesn’t mean he’s visiting her on the set. Supposedly they’re behind schedule and when that happens, directors are not usually thrilled with random set visitors. And you can bet he’s not just sitting around in her trailer waiting for her.

He’s got friends and family in London, not to mention the London Film Festival is going on right now. You know he and Tom are hitting the cinemas and pubs if he is there. The 2 of them will be sighted together before he and KS.

I love how everyone gets ready to throw down over something that is totally nobody’s business!! You wonder why stars don’t comment on things? because they want to keep a part of themselves separate from us, their ‘adoring fans.’ Everyone is entitled to an OPINION, this is true. But put yourselves in their shoes, just for a minute. Or imagine that it is your child being hounded anytime he or she goes out. Why does the public feel entitled to know every intimate detail? There is a big difference in being supportive of a star’s career vs. feeling like there is a need to publish every single detail from the star’s life. Bottom line is that the stars only let us know what they want us to know, and try to hold on to whatever privacy they can with an iron grip. I also think that people fail to acknowledge that pictures capture a millisecond of time. think about the many emotions that can be conveyed in any 5 second snippet. And perhaps none of them are truly indicative of what the person is truly thinking.

So are Rob and Kristen together? I don’t know. They don’t talk to me about it. And they don’t talk to you either.

You have no idea if the tweets are true or not so why are you assuming “shippers” (God I hate that term) made them up?

I never said Rob was in London. I said he may be there (according to tweets) or he may not.

I mean that the nonstens are frequently rude, not Rob or Kristen.

How are things going?

No, he actually hates it because all these tweets go out when someone sees him and then he is being swarmed by fans and paps alike. He wouldn’t mind if they would wait a while, but they tweet while he is still there. There are several fakes with his name, but none are the original. Both Kellan Lutz and Peter Facinelli have verified Twitter accounts and both have said that Rob will not be joining. Peter did get Rob to tweet on his account once though.

And she said, in the interview, that people were saying what you’re saying. She said there are still 50% people out there saying they are not together and THEN she said “isn’t it obvious?”. The fact that she knows there are deniers says she very aware of whats being said online. She had told the interviewer the day before “my boyfriend is English” and then when he pressed her on her comment she said, “I would have never told you that if I’d known you were going to interview me.” I mean, c’mon — 2 + 2 still equals 4. Ya know?

I think Rob and Kristen are laughing at all the Robsten’s

They are also filming in studio. They have more than one unit. I think I read they are done at the lake district.

I think they’re laughing at all of us.

“they are both the type that would never pull a PR stunt like announcing an engagement right in time for Breaking Dawn promotion.” You obviously don’t know how hollywood works do you?

I must say I really like your rational response. At least you don’t come across as a hater.

I don’t recall saying that you said anything about Rob being in London. So…….what the hell?

What original tweet are you talking about? The one of him on set? That wasn’t a fake twitter. They have a source. And then there were sightings of him on a flight from LA. It’s all on Spunk Ransom.

ehhh things are going lol

Yes, but how do you stop a rumor? By telling the truth. A rumor doesn’t just stop, because if no one says whats really going on, people are just going to make the rumor even bigger, try to analize it and speard what ever they think is true. And if they don’t find out the truth, they’ll ask someone who doesn’t know the truth and that person will probably make up a lie. And so the rumor continues to destory the lives of many people!

No matter if you realize it or not, what GC is doing is a huge help. If you still disagree, I don’t know what to say.

I’m not sure Rob went to London last Wednesday after all. There was a tweet about him flying British Air and then the fake tweet about him being on that SW set that was never confirmed. Since then he hasn’t been seen by fans anywhere, and that’s just not believable. They always catch him in pubs or at music gigs and there are hundreds of extras working on SW, if Rob was there, someone would have tweeted about it. And KStew was not involved in the shooting at Pinewood, she’s still on location, hundreds of miles from London.

Now it’s all over Twitter that KStew was seen at the airport and is on a flight back to Los Angeles. Alone. I’m not sure Rob was ever in England at all, even the tweet about British Air could have been fake, no one else saw him, and Sam is on his way back to LA to do some more recording, so if Rob is there, he’ll probably be spotted out with Sam again.

I thought Rob’s middle name is Thomas, now his middle name(s) is Thomas Douglas? I thought wikipedia wasn’t a well trusted site, now imdb has trusted their word on that? Or did they get their information from someone who knows Rob really well?

It doesn’t matter to me where Kristen or Rob is at this very moment. I believe there is more than ample evidence to suggest they have been a couple for quite some time now. My opinion of course, but I am not going to be so desperate to come up with these ridiculous conspiracy theories like PR and Kristen has a dog that looks just like Bear or Rob would only visit Tom and his family in London. No one who isn’t part of the Nonsten group believes in the PR theory anymore. The naysayers keep convniently forgetting that Rob said he would never ever be in a PR relationship. How do you explain that one?

@secretsurfer, I see what you are saying and I agree somewhat but from what I’ve seen Marti reveal, she/he hasn’t said anything that we don’t already know…they are together. She’s not really saying anything kristen hasn’t already said herself, so I don’t think she is violating anything, now if she started talking about locations/if rob was a boxers/briefs type of guy or things completely out of line then that would be a problem.

I knew who you were talking about. Where in my comment did I mention Nikki Reed? I’ll ask again, you obviously don’t know how hollywood works do you? How are they going to sell their movies? They can’t sell their movies without doing some kind of PR. If you don’t believe me(which I know will) check out how many comments there are, it’s obviously working.

Kristen must really care for Rob to put up with all the petty jealousy and hatred directed at her just because she’s dating him.

Exactly! None of us do all we can do is hope for the best for them in love.life.and career. Even the same can be said with the extreme obsessive robstens who pretend Rob/Kris are the real life versions of Bella/Edward, though I’ve never seen them on this board, thank goodness for that. ;)

I sorta of see where you are coming from regarding the hollywood game but twilight has a huge fan base regardless, now I’ll admit kris/rob and their personal relationship is a huge draw but the books already ensured the movies would succeed and have a built in audience due from the books. I’m not sure if you are a fan of either one of them but I don’t think they would be the types to simply do PR to sell a movie if that was the case they would’ve done the same thing for their other movies as well by that logic…but of course we can agree to disagree on the issue.

@Emma1990- I understand that, but Marti is the one who claims the personal connection, seeking to somehow validate her info, and to what end? Rob and Kristen certainly cannot need such vehement rebuttal from Kris’ brother’s friend’s sister (see how ridiculous that sounds?) to buoy them as they ride the choppy waters of the speculation. Most people with such connections have enough sense to just not acknowledge the gossip at all. I fully support Marti’s right to her opinions, but i have to believe that whatever info she may have been given was offered in confidence. By talking about her connection in a forum betrays that confidence, whether or not topics discussed by her can be confirmed. That is my problem with the situation.

@Emma1990– would you look at that? two people having a rational discussion without one swear word! who knew?? ;)

LOL ;)

Aw! Did I strike a nerve? LOL

You are FOS. @secretsurfer yes a close friend would never come here and talk.@ Marti Mitev You never know who comes here ,you know nothing and that is a fact.

I obviously don’t now whether Rob is in London or not, but it would be hard for him to hide out in LA all this time. How long has it been since he was last seen in LA.

Robert Pattinson was raised in the Catholic faith, upon his confirmation, he would have had to take on, by tradition, either the name of a patron saint or his sponsor or someone close to him. His birth certificate may say Robert Thomas, with Douglas being added after his confirmation or Robert Douglas, with Thomas being added upon his confirmation. I did read it at some point that his mother’s father’s name was Douglas. It was a long time ago, it was also in the internet, so who knows if this is true or not.

Well I was just wondering. Thanks for the info, you’re probably right who knows if it is true or not.

I realize that the Twilight series had a huge following before they were turned into movies, but what about the people that never heard of it before? They have to use some kind of marketing technique to get other people to go see it. Just saying. And I’m a fan Rob, I think he’s got potential to be a great actor. As for Kristen, well, let’s just say, I’m waiting for her to prove me wrong with her acting. Don’t get me wrong, I think she’s got potential to be a great actress too, it’s just she’s not proving it to me yet. *shrugs*

What does Nikki Reed have to do with anything? So what if she let everyone know who she is dating, and now married to, by going out in public and showing PDA? Why do some robstens feel the need to publically degrade Nikki Reed all the time? And some here would rip the head off someone who would dare say impersonal stuff about KS, yet it is totally acceptable to wage a personal attack on Nikki Reed? Some would say, how can these women on here, some are mothers, say terrible things about KS? How would they like it if someone was talking that way about their daughter(s)? Yet, those same people can say things of a personal nature about Nikki? How does that makes sense?

@ Linda Yes, I hit the “like” button on comments I agree with or even mostly agree with. I can criticize KS’s acting in movies and her behavior in public all I want, but I never go beyond that. Her choices for her personal life are hers. If she wants to take this role or that, that is her choice, but if I end up not liking that movie, I can say so. It is not unjust, it is what she signed up for. I have a lot of actors I like, but if they make a movie I don’t like (and there are plenty), I criticize them about it. That is what fans do, and they can make or break a movie or an acting career. It is nothing personal. And I have defended KS plenty of times, you just choose to ignore that. I especially defend her with those who bring up her sexual orientation. And what does it matter that some people here are rude to her fans? I have dealt with that because I am Rob’s fan, so what? Besides, she says rude things about her own fans so why can’t everyone else?

That could be, Rob makes mocking comments, or is just joking, and it is all over the place like what he said was serious. Like when Rob said he doesn’t wash his hair or when he said he is allergic to vagina. You can better tell if something said is just in mocking or joking if the comments are on video and not print. We may never know how she meant it.

@Robsessed1986- Couldn’t have said it better myself.

Yeah you did hit a nerve. It was actually my funny bone. You’re hysterical. LOL. By the way, I used to come here a lot under another name but I stopped for awhile because I got bored with the people. I see the same people are here. You’re new to me though. You wouldn’t have been offended by what I said and responded if you didn’t think I was talking about you. I just find it comical that there are those of you that are so desperate and obsessed with Rob that you’re in denial about who his girlfriend is. How does it benefit any of you by being in denial? Some of you need professional help. Was what I just said rude and hateful enough for you? LOL

It doesn’t matter, at least the rumor stops because of GC.

So true. I agree!

I so agree with you.

I’m Catholic and I did choose the name of a saint (Lucy) as my confirmation name, but it is not a legal change to your name. You would have to go through the whole process of legally changing your name to incorporate your confirmation name. Granted, I don’t know how England handles that, but keep in mind that the Catholic Church isn’t considered the Church of State (which is the Anglican Church) in England. Some sects of the Anglican Church consider that Baptism is sufficient to “access the grace of all the sacraments.” So if some Anglican Churches do practice confirmation, the basic concept may be the same as the Catholic Church, but any legalities associated with that may be different.

Is that really where your head is at? Striking nerves with people? Does that do something for you personally? Do you get off on it or something? I don’t get that kind of logic, sounds like something that elementary children do with each other when they are picking sides for dodge ball and they think that they are in some fashion better than the next kid so they go about the business of taunting and attempting to make that other kid feel bad. You must be very proud of yourself for the borderline bullying. You are an adult right?

I am trying to grasp the concept that you base your logic on. You are basing your thoughts that just because her name pops up next to a ‘like’ button on someone else’s comment that you only focus on the other person’s words in hatred or dislike of Kristen and assume that anyone that likes the comment must hate Kristen too? Really. I have to tell you that I have, and she will attest to it, disagreed with Chelcp’s comments and others, but I still hit the like button to their comments when they say something that I happen to like, my name just does not pop up next to it so all you see is the numbers, does that make me a hypocrite too? You seem to make assumptions about why people hit another’s like button and you could not be anymore wrong if you tried. I don’t think that the sun rises and sets on Kristen Stewart, but I don’t hate her. I have only seen one of her movies (and I have seen quite a few of her movies) that I was totally impressed with her acting and that was The Cake Eaters. Outside of that, she has not wowed me in the same fashion that she has mesmerized you, but I am always hopeful that she will. That is not hate, it is calling it as I see it. I happpen to admire her for her work ethic, her independence and her dedication to what her chosen path is, but that does not mean I have suck up to her fans who do think that sun rises and sets on her. I would imagine that it is folks like you that fit into the category she stated in the GQ mag article “that people are just fucking crazy…”

Well, I was talking about the ones who say they are, and the ones who say they are not together. Both sides tend to only see what suits them. I was talking about the whole picture and not just one side. Both sides are the same, they act the same, they just believe in a different thing. All I’ve said goes both ways, it applies to the ones who say “no” and the ones who say “yes”.
Anyway, I actually just came here to say sorry for my English. It’s not my first language and I’m a little bit rusty =P
Guess I got carried away. =)
Wish you all the best and have a good week =)

Here is something Rob’s people need to watch. c.ribs the obsession over are they or not has come to this that people are now making threats. Very sad. Yes I know what you meant but some people can not read between the lines. Here I should forward this to his people . The fact this person does not know him or her or the status of their relationship.

HEY TRI Wed, Oct 19, 2011, 2:08 PM

dont you even dare come here anymore defending rob or his family you know full well what he did to
kristen,i hope he dies a horrible death is what he deserves for cheating on kristen and break her heart like he did.

Can someone here foward this to his people?

Very interesting…….

Where did this come from? I can get this to Rob’s people. This is not the first time he has received this type of threat because he was perceived to be cheating on KS. I turned the last one in to Gossip Cop and fowarded it to his agent as well. But I cannot do anything if I do not know where this came from. PLEASE let me know as soon as possible. If it is from here, I need to know the story it is attached to. Thank you!

Despite what you may think of some or all of us, we are not all that bad, and I’m speaking of both nonstens and robstens, of which I am considered to be the latter. There are those on both sides that are way the hell out there, but I assure you that I am not one of them. Nor are many of the nonstens I speak to on this board.

There are literally thousands of comments made about Rob both here and throughout the web every day. His people cannot possibly monitor everything. They do rely on people like me who foward these things to them, which I will do if and when I am told where this came from. Without that info, there is nothing that can be done by me or them.

Did you get the info to foward. It has links so gossip cop may remove them.

I have it, copied and pasted, and on its way. Thank you so very much!!

@chelcp-see this is the type of crazy ass krisbians I was talking about and the backlash against rob, this person is sick and precisely the type of person kstew said was “fucking crazy” this makes me sick and is no true fan of kristen! smh this is disgusting that people take it to this level! (talking about the quote summer828 posted, not about summer828)

LOL krisbians are strictly kristen stewart fans, just like the robsessed fans. The extreme krisbians hate Rob now and think he’s no good for Kristen because he doesn’t attend her movie premieres, he doesn’t acknowledge her as his girlfriend etc. these are the main reasons they use and most of them are on the Awful Truth board, these are the extremists and if Rob doesn’t do what they want, they threaten him, post old modeling shots of him and say he is a homosexual. I had to get off those boards because Ted doesn’t clean them up when you email him, he just says “it’s your board.” etc. It takes forever for them to remove it once you flag the comment its disgusting. These people are dangerous to Rob and they talk about having tracking devices to track IP addresses etc. I’m strictly for kristen but am getting more interested in rob, he is humble/his interviews are always funny to read/and I am seeing more talent from him so he’s alright in my book but the krisbians believe Kristen is perfect from head to toe and are delusional. I remember one time I was talking about how much I adore kristen but that I hated her acting in twilight which was awful imo and if you think we get into on here oh boy its wayyyy worse over there!

I was just over on Ted’s board, I had no idea it was that bad. I mean, I was told there were some real crazy ass people there, but the shit that is being said over there is truly insane. One guy is threatening to do things of a homosexual nature to Rob, with a lot of description. I feel like I need to take a shower to wash off all the nasty stuff I read. What I was trying to do is figure out why that lady said what she did. I found that this lady is posting as if she is KS’s mother. There are others there that are talking about what she has apparently said in the past and they seem to believe it is KS’s mom (I seriously doubt it). It is so disgusting!! It really makes me ill to think of what those people are thinking and saying about both Rob and KS.
In any case, I have e-mailed a copy of those posts to Rob’s people. Thanks again for your help!

Rob and kristen have the best protection possible, but you cant do anything against a sick rabid person who is determined to do something evil. Those who have harm in mind have posted openly on twitter and facebook what they intend to do. Sometimes people who read the threat ignore it or laugh it off. I am so glad you decided to do something about it. Good for you. Now Gossip Cop should know what to do about this.

disturbing indeed…once breaking dawn is over i hope these two will be left alone and we can just focus on their careers, i for one can’t wait for swath to come out and kristen can show what she can do.

Really Emma1990 Do you think maybe the obsessed fan is a woman who is threatening Justin’s ladies?? Oh wait I remember they said a guy. What reason does he need to be this way to Justin’s ladies? I feel for Selena.

Unfortunately Dean has not been around with Rob lately, and he is the one I would trust if I were Rob. I mean, Dean has been with Rob for a long time and they know each other well. I hope Dean will be with Rob for the BD promo though. Hopefully his people will check out that threat so they can determine if it is viable or not.
Look at what is going on with poor Selena Gomez (one of my daughter’s fav actresses). That man is old enough to be her father and look at what he is doing. And why on earth would he be doing this to her? I hate when people get like this, these types are never really fans of who they stalk. It’s all about power, these people want to have power over their victims and to control them. It is just sickening!

John Lennon let his guard down and decided to sign an autograph for a smiling friendly Chapman. And it was over. It never entered Lennon’s head to be afraid. I dont like to speak of such matters since I am superstitious and one does not know who reads these comments.

I wonder if this wing nut knows that Kristen’s dad has hair growing almost down to his ass? Her daughter? Really?

I know and I was not disputing that, I was merely clarifying how the Catholic and Anglican churches work differently. I was stating that just because you choose a name at a Catholic confirmation doesn’t mean that your name is legally changed. I don’t know how precisely the Anglican Church deals with the additional name for any type of Confirmation sacrament that they may or may not perform.

I really wish I could! I’m not too far away from LA, but I’m in college and don’t want to miss any classes. I’m officially bummed!! :(

@Herbee did you ever find out who wrote that poem?

Very well said jae. Couldn’t agree more.

Have a great time!!!

Ya, but you live by the Cake Boss and I’m jealous!! lol

The Cake who? Cake Boss? Who the hell is that?

Buddy Velastro, he has a show on TLC called Cake Boss. He and his Family own a bakery in Hoboken, Carlos Bakery, it’s been around for a very long time. They do really high end cakes and high priced as well. I like to watch the process when he puts one of those cakes together, it’s pretty neat.

@ MissZee President Obama declared an end to the war in Iraq!! All troops to be pulled out of Iraq and will return home by the end of the year and will “be home for the holidays”!! Let’s pray that the war in Afghanistan will come to an end very soon so that your Marine and all the others serving there can come home, too!!

he probably was here in NYC..it is one of the places celebrities love to be

There are pics of Rob leaving LA. He’s got a beard and he fixed his hair.

Funny how tweets placed him in London when he probably was in LA the whole time… And this extra on SWATH who claimed he showed up on set three times since last week. Huh?

I have no way to know, really, but IMO he didn’t leave LA since coming back from Toronto… This beard is too easy to spot ;-) So many of these tweets are just BS, I don’t rely on them regarding Rob’s whereabouts.

I know!!!! I am so proud of Kris, Rob, Taylor. Say what you will about those three but they have worked hard and honestly deserve it. Twilight may not be well liked all the time but you can’t deny the power it’s had on it people nor can you deny the power of these three either. They have made it now in Hollywood. I wish I could go but I live on the stupid East Coast, nothing exciting ever happens here especially in CT… :(

The NY tweets were from Tuesday, so it’s possible, this is Friday. I think he’s mostly been in LA, he could have gone to NY and flown back to LA on Tues., and then out of LAX tonight. He could have been doing interviews or something business related for a few days in NY, or that tweet could have been fake.

But the one in LA the other night spotting him and Jon Hamm seems to check out. Sam has been in LA with Rob this week, and supposedly they were all at Soho House when that guy tweeted about them. Outside of some fake tweets from the UK that never checked out to be legit, Rob’s been hiding out very well. You know if he ever showed up on the SWATH set that those hundreds of extras would be tweeting about it like crazy, and that hasn’t happened. Plus they all have cell phone cameras, he can’t sneak in and out of the UK multiple times without someone seeing him. He’s been in LA this whole time, I hope someone asks him how he’s been spending his down time when he starts doing interviews.

Come on Robsessed go play sick! he …..he! I am bad news for you he..he!! Chuckle,little devil in me! This is once in a life time! You guys this is a big deal for them. Hand-prints are personal and it is an honor to get that or the walk of fame! Alright Emily I will cheer him for everyone here.

Here’s another tid bit that Jae pointed out to me; the guy who says he saw Rob in NYC said Rob was sporting stubble or was scruffy. Look at the pics, Rob has a full on beard. I have a hard time believing that this guy could not tell the difference, but I guess we can never really know. Personally, I don’t think he was in NYC at all.
But I am hoping he will be soon so he can do the talk shows there. Hopefully he will be on Ellen too. He seems to have a lot of fun when he is there, he seems to be comfortable with her.
The big debate going on right now is…..will he shave, trim down to only stubble, or stay mountain man Rob. What do you all think?

All the tweets about Rob being in the UK seem to have been fake. They were pretty sketchy to begin with, and some not even tweets, just comments made in blogs that got retweeted as if they were real. He’s too tan and rested to have been jetting back and forth, and face it, there are too many people with cameras, fans who are always looking for him, and paps who make a living getting pics of him for him to have been sneaking in and out of LAX or any airport.

He’s got a giant beard which means he hasn’t been working, he’s got a tan, he looks fresh and not tired out, he’s just been on vacation in LA this whole time. The only time he’s been in London was the 10 day period in Sept, when he went over for the christening. The rest of the time he’s been on his own in LA. Must be great to be in a relationship where you don’t have to spend the majority of your time with the other person. Frees you up to do whatever you want. I think it’s called friends with benefit.

For those keeping track, it’s 37 days in the same city and 140 days apart. i don’t buy into all this ninja travel BS. Of course they can fly by private jet, but unless they never leave a hotel, someone is going to see them somewhere, and Rob is over six feet tall, he’s hard to miss. If he goes into a pub or anywhere in public, he’s going to be spotted, it stands to reason. He’s been hanging out in LA all summer, and his beard would indicate that he hasn’t been working. A meeting one day a week isn’t really work, is it? He deserves a long vacation, he should be fully rested and ready to sell BD to the screaming fangirls.

Well I think he was in London last week. If you don’t want to believe it that is fine but he wasn’t seen in LA during that time and he usually is especially on weekends. Some movies he apparently was up for we’re closing in on deals this week so he may have had to come back for meetings.

Actually the last picture of Rob was on Sept. 30. It would be very unusual for him to be in LA all that time and not be papped, especially since the paps have caught him out walking his dog before so they likely know what neighborhood he lives in.

rob has been looking very hot and sexy lately, and that beard seems to add to it. once breaking dawn comes out, those who deny there is anything between them will go into overdrive. especially when he breaks that headboard…

The tweet about him being on a plane to London was never verified by anyone else, and the information from the supposed extra was totally made up and never confirmed, either. Rob is not invisible, he can’t show up in England, visit a set with hundreds of extras and remain under the radar. More than one fake account would have surfaced. It’s just not believable that he ever left LA.

And you notice he flew straight from there to Paris, he didn’t spend the night in London with Kristen.

Where in her post does she make it out that she is desrspecting Rob?? I don’t see anything in her post to that affect.

I agree with you. While we can’t prove he was in LA the whole time, we certainly can’t prove he was in London either. And I did think there was a window for him to stop by London on his way to Paris especially since his first assignment is tomorrow if I’m not mistaken. But no, straight to Paris.

Yep, and of course he could have left LA a day or 2 earlier if he was desperate to see KStew, but he never seems desperate to see her. Also, if you see HQ pics of the beard, it’s not trimmed at all. Not around his mouth, which means he isn’t concerned about kissing anyone. And I’ve noticed that KS never had “beard rash” from the scruff, either. Never. Other girls he’s been with have shown evidence of his love of not shaving, but not KS. Either she has skin like iron or they aren’t doing a lot of kissing.

And only delusional shippers believe that trumped up SWATH extra account from the AT board. No one has seen him on the set, ever. He was in London for 10 days in Sept. and that’s it. He hasn’t been back. Maybe he’ll talk about what he’s been doing in an interview and quell all the shipper rumors.

No, he has said that he can picture himself sitting next to a wife sipping tea and watching grandkids. It’s true that guys can have kids practically till they are dead, if they don’t have ED that is. But I don’t see Rob waiting till he’s 40 unless he doesn’t find that woman till then. Besides, Rob’s mom and dad met when he was 26 and she was a few years younger, if I remember correctly. They didn’t start having kids till later, but they have been together a long time.

Jessica, would you swear to that? I mean do you absolutely one hundred percent know that rob hasnt seen or spoken to her?? when is the last time rob spilled his guts to anyone in public. who is watching this fellow so closely that they know exactly what he is doing or thinking…..

Thanks!!

Love the beatles best ever group. Will rob last as long as they have.

You just said it yourself, beard rash. Google it. There are pics of Rob’s former girls with beard rash. You only get it from one thing, a guy with a beard kissing/being close to you. Stubble is worse than a real beard, but Rob has stubble the majority of the time. This is the first time we’ve seen him with a big beard in a long time. I’m not going to name names or post links to pictures, but they’re out there.

Everybody is excited for the Paris & Belgium press tour.
But fans are suppose to take note of RPattz answers to questions.
It is rumored that he will state he is singe, friends only with KStew.
And the TW fandom will be disappointed that there is not lovestory between this 2.
RPattz has moved on. His new gf is richer, more powerful, prettier than KStew.
He does not need her anymore for his career. What an +++++hole.

okay anonymous, if rob says exactly what you have written: “he will state he is single, friends only with KStew” then your comment and former comments may have substance. are you referring to his new girlfriend as being caitlin. kristen is very rich and very powerful at this point in time and caitlin is a well known photographer and known primarily because she is cronenberg’s daughter. and why when so much is riding on bd1 would summit be happy for rob to say there is no love story between him and kristen.. after kristen’s comment about her english boyfriend, that would make kristen out to be a liar. I cant see rob being such a bastard, but lets see what happens. if you are wrong about this, I expect you to say so.

Uncalled for, totally baseless lies about Chelcp Observer. You couldn’t be more wrong nor can you grasp what chelcp is trying to say. I can’t fully speak for her but she’s referring to those who believe rob/kris are in a pr relationship thus making them out to both be douchebags and kristen a liar since she said her boyfriend was english. so people have been harping on rob saying he’s a bad boyfriend etc. because he doesn’t visit enough etc. and people have been counting days they spend apart trying to sell this theory and make rob look bad…i don’t think alyssa was trying to do that but obviously chelcp did.

“Gossip Cop is told the Twilight stars have no immediate engagement plans, regardless of what their characters happen to be doing. They’re just happily dating and living the drama-free lives the tabloids can’t stand.”
-I thought GC debunked wrong rumors right but yet even they admit these two are dating…their coworkers, directors have outed them etc. I don’t get it what more do people possible need? I understand Kristen so much better now and I feel sorry for them that people just can’t be happy for either one of them…so much for being true fans. Smh.

The photos coming out of Paris show a relaxed Rob, with no dark circles under his eyes. That boy has been on vacation, chillin by the pool. He’s not bloated, or tired, or puffy, he’s smokin hot. Glad he’s used his down time wisely in Los Angeles, meeting with his agents and reading scripts, hanging with Sam, listening to music. He needs to recharge his batteries after the last few years he’s had.

I highly doubt Rob would say anything at all.

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Just because Rob hasn’t been caught with another woman doesn’t mean he’s in a relationship with Kristen. He hardly ever spends any time with her. He hasn’t worked since July, even if he flew under the radar and went to the UK, he’s been spotted in LA about every 7 to 10 days, either by fans with cameras or by Twitter sightings. We KNOW he’s been in LA. We know he went to London for 10 days in Sept., but other than that, he’s hasn’t openly tried to visit her.

She gave that GQ interview in July, before ComicCon. Even if she considers him to be her boyfriend, he’s had plenty of opportunity to step up and talk about it, and he hasn’t. He’s just brushing it off, like she never said it. He OBVIOUSLY doesn’t want to talk about it, one way or the other. The last time he was cornered by that Vanity Fair writer he said whatever they had was “traumatic.” You can debate that til the cows come home, but he said it and that’s the way he feels about it.

You know that old Crosby, Stills and Nash song, Love The One You’re With? I think Rob’s like that. He’s happy enough with Kristen when they’re on location together, but he’s also perfectly happy when they’re apart. He doesn’t yearn for her. Absence doesn’t make his heart grow fonder.

He’s independent and enjoying his freedom. He’s sure not ready to get tied down, I think this year has proven that to anyone who isn’t wearing blinders. He’s from London for crying out loud, it would make perfect sense for him to have been there since he stopped working in July. But he’s chosen to avoid being there–and avoid being with Kristen. You can all tell yourselves whatever makes you happy, but facts are facts, and he just hasn’t chosen to be with her.

And there was no interview with him in the UK last week, either. Another made up rumor by people who want to believe in something that just isn’t happening. And he didn’t leave a day early so he could stop in London before going to Paris, either. What kind of a real boyfriend acts like that?

My boyfriend would drive for four hours to spend an hour with me and then drive back, just because he wanted to see me. Rob can’t be bothered to spend any time with Kristen, face it. He’s just not that into her.

I see you have some valid points but do you really think he would avoid visiting England because of Kristen? What about his family and friends there and there’s no indication that they’ve visited him in LA. And using your logic what will he do when Kristen returns to LA – leave LA because she is there?

you can tell yourself whatever makes you happy…………. well tell me, do you know who rob texts on his phone or who he e-mails when he is on the computer…. and when was the last time he spoke to you to tell you about his feelings for anyone…you are speculating and you know it.

i agree…more chemistry in RM than Twilight

he’s a person who doesn’t like to spend money on expensive things….so? he knows how to save…i like that in a guy…if you know how to manage money…help me out

Well Rob confirmed today on TV that he was indeed in London last week. So are you going to apologize for your rude comments?

So I just saw the clip where Rob said he was in London last week. Aheeemmmm. This just proves that he CAN get in and out of airports undetected and people like Alyssa and their day counting do not know anything. You all accused those girls in Toronto who said they saw Kristen on set of lying when they weren’t. Now you accused that girl of lying about Rob on SWATH set and you are wrong again.

Rob looks good and still waiting to hear about future projects. Hope we hear something soon.

Okay before both sides start getting into an argument about him being in London last week I Am going to point some things out. Just in case some cattyness starts going on.
Yes he was there for an interview, however this was already stated two weeks ago that he was suppose to be doing an interview there. Now i dont see people saying stuff on here but on another site I was reading a story and i already saw the comments starting up. People going crazy saying omg he went there for kristen ect. ect.
Before anyone wants to come on and start getting crazy, I want to state my opinion which i think makes alot of sense.
Kristen is veryy veryy busyy right now with filming, and rob is very busy as well since he has alot of BD promotions and interviews to do. I think he went to London to Do the interview and maybe stayed there for a day or two then flew back to L.A. Since he was spotted last week after this interview was done, In an L.A. bar where John Ham was also there. He also flew to france from LAX which shows he was in L.A. thats where i get the idea that he did not stay in london very long. He was prob busy because otherwise would he not have stayed in London and gone straight to Paris from there? I believe the last time he was there was the time he went for the christening. Who knows if they even saw eachother at all while he went to do this interview with crazy busy scheduels and stuff. Once again this is just my opinion, I wanted to say it before everyone starts making a big deal. And like I said before I think what I said makes alot of sense but im not expecting any crazy people on either side to agree with me.

I thought that they only accused the girl that claimed that she saw Kristen in Toronto on July 6th as having been telling stories out of school? When she showed up on July 7th at his trailer, I did not know anyone was saying that never happened.

X-D the robstens are going crazy,i think. haha
i agree. i believe that he was there because of the interview. i don`t know if he really visited kristen. maybe someone twetted that about the swath-set after reading that he was seen in a plane. i don`t know.
it`s promotion-time ;-)

Dear God, don’t come around here spouting such blasphemy! (*grins*)

Mo I was talking about the 6th and everyone saying they were lying and Kristen was really in London. But then the next day she was seen.

Yes, the fuckery is going as planned :D

Wow, I was wrong. Rob said today he WAS in London last week. I thought no way could he slip in and out of the US without anyone noticing but I was wrong. Lesson learned here: don’t assume you know things and mind your own business.

Also, just because people think Rob and Kristen are doing PR, it doesn’t make them any less of a fan. Every celebrity does PR in some way or another. That’s just how Hollywood works. If you don’t think so, you’re really just setting yourself up for disappointment. If you enjoy a lot of their movies, you’re a fan.

I think he is as tired of the nonstens and robstens and people scrutinizing and dissecting their every word!! As if they owe public anything.

can you prove he didnt see Kristen?? Kristen is a really cool girl and no way would she say my english boyfriend without being absolutely sure he really was her boyfriend. she isnt the sort who throws things out there. after all it took her three years to even say those words.

and yet you keep coming back to this website to comment.

Now you’re just being silly.

okay, I see where you are coming from, but those who spend hours in the day stalking people they dont know, may not have anything else to do and so they latch on to the glamorous lives of a couple of movie stars. as long as the interest is harmless (however silly the comments may seem to you) its alright. people can make fools of themselves and be absurd, but everyone is anonymous so they dont worry about it. sometimes it can get nasty but no one likes that. being actors puts these two in the public eye and all the publicity and comments are very useful when a new movie of theirs is coming out. if actors want privacy, they can do something else. not everyone wants fame, fortune, recognition, adoration and a glamorous jetset lifestyle. you know when I saw the name “secretsurfer” I kind of wondered about you, but you seem to be quite bright and I like reading your comments. secretsurfer sounds like a comic book name, (or was that silver surfer) but I dont think you are a kid.

took another look at your comment. I never heard of that movie the cake eaters so I googled it and it got favourable reviews, especially kristen stewart’s portrayal of the terminally ill teen. never saw it on tv or on first choice so will be on the lookout for it. I like stewart’s acting and her quirky little mannerisms.

Agree with you. He sure rushed back to LA!

Exactly what interview did Rob go to London for? We will see if an interview of him was done in a full beard but i heard that rumored interview will be done at a later date. Going to London for 5 or 6 days was not just for an interview. From what I heard he had to go back to LA for meetings before the promo tour.

This is for …………. I didn’t mean to hit the like button for your post. So Rob was in London last week (straight from his mouth) and you still don’t think he saw Kristen? Do pigs fly?? LOL.

@chelp you know nothing.

has anybody seen his interviews while he was canne he was horrible to kristen dating sarah gaydon thinking he was eric parker what a jerk so you do not have to speculate anymore he is with sarah likes to fall in love with his co stars hope the hell he goes out of cointry and stays there talked terrible about twilight didn’t have dean his body guard when he left toronto wonder if summit took him away from rob please go away pattison