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Robert Pattinson & Kristen Stewart Had “Explosive” Fight Before Premiere?

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Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson had an “explosive argument” before the Los Angeles premiere of The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn – Part 2, according to Grazia.

The sensationalistic magazine reports that the duo had a heated exchange shortly before the November 12 event at Nokia Theatre L.A. Live.

“Kristen had been dreading that moment [attending the premiere] for the past four months,” explains a Grazia source. “When it finally came, it was tougher than she had expected.”

So what supposedly happened?

The mag’s insider claims, “Things have been tense between her and Rob and they ended up having an explosive row because, at the last minute, he told her he didn’t want to do joint press interviews, as they felt too forced.”

“It set the tone for the rest of the evening and she was on edge all night,” alleges the Grazia source. “They were barely talking when they arrived and Robert kept his distance from Kristen, which threw her.”

According to the tabloid, things between Stewart and Pattinson are “extremely rocky.”

Uh-huh.

So even though there were no reports of a premiere night fight when it actually happened, Grazia wants us to believe that things were “explosive,” and that the pair’s subsequent happy appearances — including joint press interviews — should be ignored.

Of course, this is the same publication that falsely speculated about Balenciaga dumping Stewart as a spokesperson.

Grazia stories about her and Pattinson should come with a complimentary grain of salt.

It’s just more tabloid-fueled, retroactive “controversy” where none exists.

A source close to the situation tells Gossip Cop there was absolutely no fight prior to the Los Angeles premiere.

NOTE: The discourse in the comments section on recent stories about Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart has occasionally sunk to nasty personal attacks and ugly language that adds little to the conversation. We’d like our site to be a place where people can show passion while still being civil. Please be respectful of fellow commenters.

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  • Nonbert

    This guy is not a real man

  • Lol

    LOL! These stories just keep getting better. Wow.

  • woof

    “Grazia stories about her and Pattinson should come with complimentary grain of salt.”
    ..Very well said and that goes for these Tweets that have no bases, and then mysteriously are deleted right away!….Come on people I love great stories but lets not buy everything you see on Twitter or fake gossip rags…there are some that have more cred than others..but hey if your believing weird tweets why would you believe the truth? lol
    And I am a big fan of Rob and Kristen but they must laugh at some of the stuff people lap up haha…╬♥

  • http://twitter.com/Marti723 Marti Mitev

    Leave them alone! They are great together… <3

  • LAgirl

    Yeah they had a fight.. That’s why he had her lipstick on his lips…

  • Guest

    Anyone know if Rob and Kristen had dinner with Garrett and company?

  • Nonbert

    go away robsten freak.

  • Ana73

    So now lets do a round up…she’s gonna cheat with Ben Affleck, she is pregnant, she is on a short leash, rob is dumping her and now there was a HUGE fight before the LA premiere. and this was all in ONE week, kristen is one busy girl lol lol. But BD was #1 again, great!!!!

  • Ang1102

    Oh, he’s a real man. He’s not a cheating whore though.

  • LAgirl

    Should I call you nonsten freak? Fuck off!

  • woof

    you go I am with her….

  • vangie

    So how is he not a real man, because he did the great thing and forgive? ppl like you who always have hate in your mind, it is really sad how our world works!

  • LAgirl

    Thank you :)

  • SmartiePitz

    Good morning/afternoon/evening. How is everyone doing?

  • Guest
  • guest

    They both looked amazing that night.

  • mim

    He is a man who showed strength and conviction in the presence of extreme negative public opinion. In a country and industry where image is everything! He is the epitome of a man, not an egotistical wimp who bowes to the masses.

  • mim

    Right, because you know him personally and go out with him on all his outings. I would hardly call a girl who has had two boyfriends in her entire life a whore. I’m guessing you’re a middle or high school kid from your narrow perspective.

  • Helen
  • guest

    He did have a smidgeon of her lipstick on. Or are you physically blind as well as metaphorically blind??

  • gu2

    It sucks to be a nonsten or a nonberts right now.

  • S.L

    don’t forget she had lunch with ben affleck in L.A. lol on Wednesday I think ;)

  • S.L

    it was a battle of the tongues :) It must have been very intense :)

  • lina

    Oh poor nonbert. still have a meltdown. Kristen spent time with Rob in the UK instead celebrate Thanksgiving with her family.

  • Liyah

    Let the meltdowns for the haters begin. No matter what the say Rob and Kristen refuse to play there game. Now try and explain this info and pic away. Lol

  • Guest

    wrong once again bow wow. There’s a photo now. Guess they are laughing at you now.

  • PowderDonuts

    Why does that article sound familiar? I think I saw someone say this a few days ago.

  • Guest

    I love how people tweeted that they saw Rob and Kristen at Disneyland and some other place in LA when they were in England the whole time. It makes no sense to either just out and right lie or if you’re not sure if it’s Rob and Kristen than just don’t mention them on twitter because you look wound foolish. Guess that person was telling the truth about her husband cooking for them, lol.

  • Guest

    People don’t look at that pic down below, the huff post pic, it’s a pic of RS this crazy psycho that is pissed at Rob and Kristen for still being together and more in love than ever before.

  • Guest

    DON’T LOOK AT THE Pic below.

  • golden

    Who was the young blond castmember of BD2 who when she was interviewed said they had withstood the highs and the lows then she coughed and said Rupert Sanders. That was pretty bold of her.

  • impboard

    Too late. I am bleaching my eyes out now.

  • Guest

    It was your ass talking.

  • eric

    What tramp stamp did Rob say he was going to get? An apple?

  • grine

    Maybe your stupid voices in head.

  • Guest

    Rob lies all the time. Jimmy Kimmel said so in that interview he did with Chris Hardwick, he lies and doesn’t care if people believe it or not. BTW that interview was really nice to listen to. Loved how he said Kristen showed up to spend time with Rob, I added the spend time with Rob but why else would she be there, lol.

  • golden

    No, here it is, she said it. http://tinyurl.com/chc9vxc

  • Jen

    Okay as much as some people might be a little on the crazy side why are you saying they are more in love than before? After a cheating scandal there are lots of problems and you do not know them or how they feel at the moment, so dont start assuming, that seems to be a big problem with this fan base. Always assuming what they dont know

  • eric

    No, I thought it was interesting he used the term tramp stamp.

  • Guest

    Never saw her before and don’t care what she had to say. She doesn’t look like an actress to me. BD 1 & 2 has been filmed for almost 2 years now, what fucking high and lows did she have concerning what happened this summer? Sure wasn’t during in shooting and sure was during any promoting BD2 because Rob, Kristen and Taylor did the most promos and that blonde wasn’t involved.

  • lanford

    I think Rob is working his azz off nonstop to make this problem go away for the movie’s sake. A lot of the castmembers at some point will probably get together and bake him a cake.

  • Guest

    OMG delusional much I see. They are together and more in love than ever before, sucks to hear that I know. It’s ok you’ll get over it, lol

  • massive

    Wouldn’t it just be a lot easier on them (and the fans) if Kristen just didn’t swear at Rob in public or cheat on Rob in public? Sounds like it would make their relationship a lot more believable if she was even cordial to him at public events. It would make it easier to swallow when the reg posters keep calling fans that don’t believe in their epic love delusional all the time.

  • Jen

    im not even going to bother explaining anything to you or saying what i was going to say because one thing is clear. Your not very intelligent or very mature and you dont know how to respond without throwing a tantrum.

  • Karen

    Oh yeah, big fight that’s why his face was all smeared up with her lipstick lmao

  • Little Nell

    What and put studio crisis managers out of work? Nah. Anyway, that don’t mean beans. I swear, diss and cheat on my significant other all the time. Esp. at work in front of his boss so he can get that big promotion someday. I just know that’s going to work for him, fingers crossed.

  • failed

    Why would anyone post a pic of Rupert Sanders? What does he have to do with the couple’s epic love?

  • well

    wouldn’t it be just as easier if you’d mind your own business and
    just let it go, r/k did.

  • Me

    Enough with the PR…the movie is out and making a ton of money. And yep, they are still together, must suck to be you.

  • Haters Know Nothing

    oh but I do know them and they are more in love than ever before. all of this has made them both realize how much they mean to each other. it has made them stronger than ever before. they arent going anywhere. get used to it.

  • Guest

    actually when you loo a the big had pis there was no lipstick Not saying they are not together but you would be able to see at last some on both top and bottom lip and there was nothing except his lips being dry and chapped and the top of his lip was a little reddish. Just wanted to point out you would see more if it was lipstick even robsten fans on twitter said they didnt think it is once they blew it up. ONCE again let me make it clear before i get attacked by fans i nver said they are not togethr, but that was not lipstick.

  • testy

    BD1 was out and making a ton of money when Rob was spotted out with Sara Roemer. The box office took a temporary dive even though it had already been playing for weeks and he still got some blame for that.

  • Haters Know Nothing

    The only delusional ones are the idiots like you who refuse to believe whats right in front of your face. Rob loves Kristen and Kristen loves Rob. Theyve moved past this why dont you?

  • cc

    hey liar you having fun lying? let me ask you this why do you feel the need to tell lies on a gossip site do you feel “Cool” or important?In all seriousness if they break up in the next six months whats going to be your excuse? See i live in the real world and i can see and except reality. But if they break up you will make some excuse up right? just wondering what you would say

  • Haters Know Nothing

    lol! you are FOS. He isnt into the horse! never has been never will be.

  • Karen

    apparently you didn’t see his manager telling him to wipe the lipstick
    of his lips, we all did except you lol

  • Me

    Delusional! What dive? The movie made almost 300 mil domestically. You Nonstens are plum crazy!!!

  • Guest

    Nick told Rob to wipe the lipstick off. Cute video.

  • guest

    Nop e go back look t the video. Nick point to his teeth then /Rob puts his fingers inhis teeth then smiles ay]t nick to show his teeth kinda to say “anything there” Nick nods to say no. Please bring the video over and ill show you The original video from you tube and them make the screen big you will see :)

  • mire

    Then why does People magazine keep quoting sources that say she doesn’t look as into him when they go out together? Tell Ruth to tell them to get that story right for a change. After all, it’s People magazine and we know they speak right from the pr managers’ mouths.

  • guest

    Nope go look again. You will see original video. Make it big on the screen and wath closely he tells him something then Rob puts his fingers on his teeth like he is picking something out then he shows his teeth to nick. Go watch it you will see

  • Guest

    Oh for the love of God! Get a life you sad sad old woman! Making up delusional fairy tales is not big and it’s not clever. You are truly pathetic – go rub your twilight tattoos

  • Haters Know Nothing

    lol but how can they break up when according to fools like you it was all for PR? PR is over that exuse is dead they are together because that is what they want. they didnt break up after promo like you wanted too so now its sixth months from now? lmao! your pathetic!

  • veranda

    I prefer the one at Comic Con where Kristen told him to shut the eff up and she could cut his head off. Cute video. For serial killers.

  • Haters Know Nothing

    your just jealous because you know Im right lol!

  • Guest

    You guys get more and more delusional everyday. Why do you care because according to you they are in a PR relationship. Now it’s if they break up in six months. WTF is wrong with you?

  • Jen

    Excuse me? Who are you to tell me “Get use to it” i dont have to get use to anything because its my life and that their life. Dont tell people what they can and cant do. And BTW you have no idea how they feel inside or what they think so you have no idea what the future holds. Stop a acting like a dictator on a gossip site.

  • cc

    wtf are you saying psychooo? i never said they were PR or breaking up after promo. OMG lady take your fucking meds! dont they monotor you in the nursing home or the mental ward? whichever one your in

  • Haters Know Nothing

    believe what you want and keep on crying its not going to change what is.

  • HL

    Omg. Hollywood life was actually right about something. They were the first to “exclusively” report that Rihanna was meeting Chris Brown for Thanksgiving, and it turned out to be true, according to the new story on GC. They have also had a lot of “exclusives” on R/K, especially recently so I wonder what else has been true?

  • Haters Know Nothing

    lmao! there was lipstick! It bothers you that much that Robs lips were on Kristens doesnt it? I love that it bothers you that much!

  • Haters Know Nothing

    are you really that dumb that you believe hollywood life?

  • Haters Know Nothing

    hey chickenshit register! then maybe Ill treat you nicer . then again maybe not loser.

  • Guest

    wow your a looney im only pointing out the truth of the video go look at it if you dont believe me you crazy person! whats the matter with you?

  • Haters Know Nothing

    must be nice to run your mouth when your too chicken shit too register!

  • Yep

    HKN, you have proven to be reliable and I am thrilled to hear they are stronger now. Difficult times either make or break couples. Sounds like they fought for it and came out stronger than ever.

  • Guest

    Jealous ! Ooh that’s a really witty comeback. You’re on fire HKN! By the way, if you’re not going get off the Internet and go clean your trailer or find your grand kids, try learning how to spell. Pathetic, deluded, bullying old hag

  • Guest
  • Haters Know Nothing

    exactly! but some fools fail to see this. when a relationship goes thru something like this it goes one way or the other. you break up or you come out of it stronger. they have come out of it stronger and its killing the haters.

  • Jen

    wow seriously what your problem? I did not even say anything mean in my comment and look at how you act? all because i said no one knows them and its okay for people to assume they know how both rob and kristen feel or whats going to happen to them but if someone suggest otherwise it like they killed someone? Why do you have so much anger in you? why do you get so defensive? they are celebrities not your kids! get over it! you sound like a maniac. And stop getting so nasty with people you sem like one unhappy person why cant hold a conversation like an adult or take other peoples views. grow up

  • THIS

    “I think it s funny how some posters bring up old post or stories that mean nothing and been talked about in the past. I also find it funny they say they never say this or that YEAH RIGHT LOL you are a TROLL playing on the board.

    no new BS for them to make up because Rob and Kristen give them nothing and are together. But keep pretending losers . While we will keep laughing”

  • Karen

    Ok sweetie if it makes you feel better it was a giant floret of broccoli
    on his teeth and it was in all the pictures which only you and
    saw. Nick then told Rob to pick the broccoli off his teeth. See how
    easy that was. No problem here just want to make you happy lol

  • Haters Know Nothing

    lol! I love idiots like you! Ive been laughing at your stupidity for 3+ years and its still the same old shit!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000019516820 Debbie Spotts

    Well…..I love it!!!

  • guest

    wowwwwww I see the haters are here right now…poor loser, i feel sorry for them hahahah

  • Guest

    For you girl!!!! http://i.huffpost.com/gen/817861/thumbs/r-RUPERT-SANDERS-large570.jpg you know u love it. hahahaha

  • lol

    too funny

  • black Friday

    haters,go shopping!Forgot you are poor!

  • guest

    “Let the meltdowns for the haters begin. No matter what the say Rob and Kristen refuse to play there game. Now try and explain this info and pic away. Lol”

    They are here!!!

  • guest

    are you that delusional??? i dont have the video i hope someone brings it over from you tube. Make it big on the screen and you will see…..that is if your delusions dont get in the way. Yes he is picking his teeth and then shows his teeth to nick who then nods to say there is nothing there. Bring it over and ill give you a break down of it since you lack a brain

  • Lol

    They are having a collective meltdown right now. I love it!

  • guest

    “you are just jealous because you know im right” wow haters know nothing are you a granny or someone in middle school? lmao i cant stop laughing at an old lady using that excuse, dammm thats poor. And some people did not even mention pr but she brough it up and said we all believe that when some of us dont even believe the PR theory thats how stupid this woman is.

  • mm

    Wow Kristen and Rob must be the best actors in the world. After a huge “fight”, the sure looked relaxed and happy at the premier. I noticed that more than one reporter commented on how relaxed and in the moment Kristen was.

  • sorry but

    hope they get pappd in NY, just for the haters lol. that was a nice tweet pic of them
    heading out of London today

  • Guest

    Hope you guys are enjoying your day..Rob has a video out there where he talks about lovemaking and sex having. I’m an idiot and can’t find it. Could someone please bring the link over here and I’m blushing here but what does he mean by sex having. I don’t understand what he was trying to say and what question was asked of him. You guys rock on here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.layton.92 Susan Layton

    If he plans to get the tattoo on the small of his back that is what they are called.

  • guest

    For the trolls…

    WHEN you have to keep repeating the same thing over and over it means that you don’t buy it and you just keep saying it hoping it will come true and it does not work that way it will not come true no matter how many times or how many years you post it.

  • karen

    yeah and rob was with kristen’s lipstick like the little boy you ask “have you been eating chocolate” and his face is all smeared with chocolate but still answers no lol

  • Guest

    Rob and Kristen are fine. I know it hurts that your dream man is with Kristen, but it’s okay. Just breathe. Walk away from your computers for once, go outside. Get lives of your own and leave these two alone.

  • guest

    The biggest crime of all being poor! Lol, you are a hater, hater of the non-wealthy, don’t forget be kind (look it up in the dicktionary) and kick a poor person, when you are shopping, they like that. Ignorant loser.

  • Guest

    Ignore the trolls. They are having another meltdown.!

  • Guest

    LMAO – I love how this person/s is in denial that Rob and Kristen are together and loving every minute they are together with only each other. Good times ahead and can’t wait to see Kristen in Australia, lol.

  • Guest

    DEBBIE S or anyone- if you are here please look at my comment about Rob and that video about the lovemaking and sex having below. Thanks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000019516820 Debbie Spotts

    Me either!! Funny…..if this was still PR….where are the body guards. Oh, that’s right…..at home with their families. Cause I didn’t see any body guards in that photo….did you??? Love they are together!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000019516820 Debbie Spotts

    Haven’t got a clue about the video your talking about. Was wondering about it myself.

  • guest

    I haven’t met them myself, but I do know people who know them. From what I’ve heard their relationship is even more intense than it was prior to last summer. Believe that or not, I don’t care.

  • Haha

    Lol at the person going on and on about how Rob did not have lipstick on his lips. Yep keep SHOUTING telli g everyone to watch the video WE have seen the video and pics and have blown them up and guess what EVERYONE sees lipstick on his top lip and sees Nick telling him he has it on him. If you would put at least one brain cell together you get KNOW that Rob and Kristen get dressed in different rooms with their people and then met up to get into the different cars seeing the arrived at the same time would tell you fools they left from the same place at the same time and like most couples do they probably kissed quick before try got into the cars OMG can you believe it? That is probably why he has HER color lipstick on. But keep thinking it had to do with something else if that helps you through the day.

  • Guest

    I will keep looking for it – don’t know what he means by sex havers, if that’s a word, lol.

  • guest

    Easier? They don’t care what you think about their relationship.

  • guest

    go look at the video please. Its clear your an idiot go oat Nick and Rob and Rob picking his teeth then showing his teeth to Nick.I know you will not bring the video from youtube over because you know it will prove you wrong but believe what you want.

  • Guest

    Who is Patti Stranger?

    “Millionaire Matchmaker Patti Stanger knows a good love match when she sees one and she sees one in Hollywood couple Kristen Stewart and Rob Pattinson. Recently, at an Usmagazine Music Party, Stanger told Hollyscoop, “I love the fact that [Robert Pattinson] let [Kristen Stewart] apologize and that she owned up to her mistake. Let’s see if they can heal each other and if they can get married in the next year and a half.” Although most of America thought their love fiasco may have been a publicity stunt for the Twilight Saga movie, Stanger actually saw a heartbroken Pattinson and a remorseful Stewart. “I think it’s for real because I really think he had a broken heart, I think he really cried his eyes out and I think she really regretted what she did.” When it comes to cheating, Stanger believes in forgiveness. “She’s human and they’re young. We make mistakes like that and nobody calls them out. They make mistakes and it’s like the end of the world.”

  • lina

    sure honey it´s ok we believe you. LOL

  • guest

    She’s that idiot matchmaker on tv. Yet another person using Rob and Kristen to get herself some press attention.

  • Guest

    oh, ok thanks.

  • Rob fan

    She actually does really good on her show and she’s spot on I think on her analysis on rob and Kristen which I’ve believed from day one. Hey if it gets her more time in the limelight so be it, all of Hollywood exists because of PR that’s a fact and some celebrity’s use it as a marketing tool for their careers and some abuse it for constant attention good or bad.

  • ally

    Rob & Kristen, continue doing what you’re doing, ignore the haters, keep loving each other like always

  • yep

    she was one of the very first ppl who saw them together at the CM
    or the Charlie anyway she said they were definitely a couple when
    everyone had doubts couple of yrs back she’s got some cred imo

  • Haha

    Sweetie I have SEEN the video and guess what I still see Nick telling him to wipe his lips ever think when Rob was wipeing his lips he did his teeth too. AGAIN I have the video you are talking about I have seen all the videos from all the premiers. Just stop making your self look dumb not only do we have the video we have photos showing her lipstick on this top lip but here is the QUESTION
    for you what is the big deal? So he had lipstick on him you do know that she has kissed Rob all over his body right YEP she has kissed every part of his body and he here so what is the big deal? They were swimming in their underwear and hugging and kissing at thief home so WHAT is the big deal? Did you not watch the LA premier? They were both smiling and happy no fighting going on before or after their family’s were hanging out at the after party also GET a clue move on because Rob and Kristen are moving on and on TOGETHER. You can feel free to waste your time bringing the video over seeing your the one who can’t let it go. Haha

  • ufff

    looks like this board is acting up

  • guest

    I’m not there for people who exploit Rob or Kristen for their own profit.

  • Lol

    Awww pumpkin stop drinking the KOOL AID. Lol

  • Guest

    Weeping – just saw the most beautiful video of Rob and Kristen during the BD promotions and it has that song by Jason Mraz – I won’t give up on us. Wish I could bring it over but I’m an idiot and don’t know how to. Robstenville published it on youtube called rk BD 2012 promo highlights.

  • Rob fan

    Hey right now they are the hot topics of all the vultures and the paps so it’s better to have people exploit them in a positive way which is good PR for them than let all the trashy ones say bad things anyway cause that’s their livelihood. So good pr is better than bad pr constantly don’t u think?

  • Taylor_is_a_sexy_BEAST

    Here is the link: http://youtu.be/6tRXtIf9kmU

  • Rob fan

    What is the name of the video on YouTube I wanna watch and judge for myself, do you remember what it’s called?

  • guest

    No, it’s not good to have people exploit them either way. This isn’t “good” PR. Good PR is talk about their projects. They don’t need any media exposure focusing on their personal relationship and they don’t want it.

  • Just Me

    True “she human and their young” human makes mistake and you learn from them sometimes the hard way. And so true we make mistakes and no one says anything but they make a mistake and the world is over they are HUMAN people to no one in this world is perfect. Kristen messed up and handled it like a adult she apologized to those who warranted the apology admitted her mistake and kept her head up not letting the haters who have been jealous of her forever effect her and bring her down she she has grown and gotten stronger from this mess. Rob loves her and forgives her that is all that matters to her.

  • Guest

    Thank you for bringing that link over. Love that video. I like your moniker – Taylor_is_a_sexy_BEAST. He really is cute and seems to be a wonderful person that everyone would like to have in their lives.

  • Taylor_is_a_sexy_BEAST

    Yeah I like username too. One of my co-workers saw my username a couple weeks ago and he just kept laughing at me. I explained that I made this account during New Moon movie time when I was obsessed with Taylor’s sexiness, lol.

  • Summer_Islander

    I must be incredibly naive because I just don’t understand how people can post blatant lies like this. Don’t they worry about credibility or owning a company known footer bullshit? And How do they get enough customers to keep the magazine/website running? Are there that many gullible people in the world? I’m surprised that this that is not illegal.

  • Haha

    Why would I give you the name of the video your the one who started talking about it. Haha you probably NEVER saw it to start with and are just talking out your ass trolling around. To show you I DON’T lie go and check it Robsten Dreams they have all the videos or better yet go google YAHOO coverage if the LA premier you will see that right after they get done taken photos together smiling Nick tells Rob about the lipstick ENJOY I do not TROLL as you can see. If I don’t like an actor I don’t talk about them and seeing you like to talk out your azz I am done with you. Peace to the good people enjoy the weekend. I am sure Rob and Kristen will . Haha

  • Haha

    I am sorry I thought you were the poster guest. I do apologize I know your a good person not a hater.

  • Guest

    Candykisses is all you need to know that this is Bullshit. It came from crazy candykisses. She’s a well known psycho and liar.

  • Guest

    She is singing different tune. If you watched her video interview, she basically called all British men as gay emo dudes and cheaters will always cheat again. Now she says they should give second try? Useless famewhore latching unto Rob and Kristen names. Typical.

  • Guest

    Tell me which issue states this fact? Last year’s, maybe? Certainly not any lately. In fact, even the letters to the editor have all been positive for the both of them and their relationship. Put up or shut up……

  • Thrilling

    You are one shameful 54 year old woman. Probably is that you never get laid anymore so you come here for your, um, thrills.

  • Amy

    Man these tabloids just make idiots out of themselves. It’s sad that standing in line at the grocery store you see one cover story about how they’re expecting a baby right next to one cover story claiming that they think she’s going to ruin another marriage. The sad thing is people can see stories on both ends of the ridiculousness spectrum (as i like to call it) and choose to believe both. On a side note, to all the people commenting on these boards saying that they know the couple, followed by leaking information on their relationship: you may call yourself an insider, but I seriously hope you don’t consider yourself a fan. These two go to great lengths to keep their personal lives private. You should at least be a little ashamed of yourselves for leaking information about them, unless they specifically told you ‘hey we’re together and happy so please go tell everyone on the gossip sites’.

  • aquarius64

    Wasn’t she also snapped having dinner with Rupert Sanders before the 50 snaps of shame were all over the internet? Past is prologue.

  • lillicat

    Not sure how she could be at Heathrow on a flight to NY with Rob today then.

  • D. Martin

    Hi mim – this is about control. She has no control over her own life so she feels the need to control someone else’s. Basically, it’s all about HER. You have to wonder why this person — and others — continues to hold on to this hate & hostility after 4 months when even the people involved have moved on. I’d hate to be stuck in the rut she’s in.

  • Gloria

    I saw the pictures so they kissed, so what whats that to you nothing so go away.
    those of you haters stop beening os mean, why don’t you mind your own business and leave Robert and Kristen alone for God sake leave them be. I’m a big fan of Robert and Kristen they are sweet together they both mke a beautiful couple. Wish them both luck so good luck and best wishes love these two couple your fan.

  • lillicat

    I can’t believe you haven’t figured out that Charlize was between them, but was convienently removed from the pic.BTW, every one of those 50 pics have now been proven to be FAKE!

  • D. Martin

    He’s more man than 95% of the guys out there.

  • D. Martin

    After you…

  • Guest

    Most everyone is on the BD board below. I guess I’ll go hang there. Everyone come on over to the BD board, no one is here.

  • D. Martin

    All while being in the UK….

  • D. Martin

    There is a video of Charlize Theron between them — it was a group dinner. Your argument loses credibility when you purposely leave out the facts.

  • lillicat

    And then she told him she loved him, and he said “Same”.

  • D. Martin

    If that was a journalist then that was catty & unprofessional. I love how some of these so called journalists stand in line at the premieres and say crap like this but when Kristen walks up they act like star struck teens.

  • D. Martin

    Is a nonbert someone who doesn’t like Rob?

  • D. Martin

    Tramp stamp? Tattoo? Take it he doesn’t like tattoos?

  • D. Martin

    Is there an article on this somewhere? Where did you get your information? Or are you guessing?

  • D. Martin

    I have never seen one story where she swore at him in public. Not one. How credible are any of you nonnies if you have to make stuff up? How desperate

  • D. Martin

    OMG! Is that real? Did that really happen to a reporter?

  • Guest

    Yes go there if you want to read thousands hello and goodbye.

  • D. Martin

    Agreed. I think it’s just time for everyone to move on and wish them well.

  • Ang1102

    Wait, you forgot about the married man she made out with in a car. Does he count as a boyfriend too? lol

  • @Guest

    I would rather read hi and goodby rather then you BS lies and hate. Bye

  • ASFJ

    Think so… never paid much attention….can’t stand them anyway. Just want to know that Rob and Kris are ok.

  • Guest

    He detests them.

  • andifonly0703

    sooooo not surprising…no one associated with those movies can stand her anymore…

  • Emily

    I feel a tell-all book is going to happen after Twilight is completely over. Does anybody else feel the same way? Think about it. Summit can’t have Robert or Kristen telling the world that they were paid to do a showmance. That would just put Rob and Kristen in a terrible, terrible light. Now the question is: who will write this tell-all book? Ex-employee of Summit, a pretend ex-employee, or someone being paid by Summit to write this book? Those are my guesses, what do you all think?

  • mask

    BUT, have to pretend…

  • rocknmovie

    They have never done joint interviews on the red carpet…

  • rocknmovie

    Wishful thinking on your part… This person would never work again in Hollywood. Anyway you probably think it would be more salacious than it really was. Just young people messing up a bit, nothing fascinating enough for a tell-all book.

  • anna

    a showmance for 5 years? dream on….what showmance are they dong now that all the romos is over?

  • guest

    Where did you read no one can stand her anymore. I did not see that article.

  • guest

    oh please what was there to tell? Bunch of horny teenagers doing stupid stuff. Meh

  • court jester

    take it from some one who is far, far older and far, far wiser than you. no one laughs about cheating on another person! sooner or later it will happen again. that i would put big money on. look at the pics of patty, he sure does not look like a happy camper. No “happy i’m so in love” senario there. in fact i would venture to say he looks like ” ho hum, if the studio says i must , i guess i must. more like a cardboard version of edward! ha ha! no girlies, this was all put together to insure the film would suceed. stewart is a lousy actor and a fame whore who uses people for her own gain. she will crash and burn. its all a matter of time. on the other hand patty has proven his thespian abilities in his other than twilight films. with ” on the road “coming out next, and stewart playing the part of a prostitute. what more can i say. she plays the part, dresses the part and acts the part. unfortunately she doesn’t have a heart of gold. or does she?? Ha Ha! just how much money has she made off of others?

  • Emily

    I feel a tell-all book is going to happen after Twilight is completely over. Does anybody else feel the same way? Think about it. Summit can’t have Robert or Kristen telling the world that they were paid to do a showmance. That would just put Rob and Kristen in a terrible, terrible light. Now the question is: who will write this tell-all book? Ex-employee of Summit, a pretend ex-employee, or someone being paid by Summit to write this book? Those are my guesses, what do you all think?

  • C

    SSDD with you. Your so boring it has been years can’t you come up with something new you gave said she sucks as an actor and is awful yet she keeps getting roles and was the highest paid actress this past year. And is up for Oscar talk but keep up your SSDD funny how it only seems to be you haters that don’t like her.

  • guest
  • Emily

    LMAO.You are a psycho!

  • Guest

    Who would care about a fucking tell-all book concerning any of these people? Everything has already been said in trash mag about all of them since Twilight 2008. Nothing and I mean nothing could be said about them that hasn’t already been said in gossip blogs, in magazines, on tv. They have fucked everybody on the set an off the set. They have fucked the same sex, the boys and the girls. They have had showmance and prmance. Nothing else would surprise, even on the old AT someone even said things about animals and these stars. Who cares about a fucking tell-all, it’s all been said.

  • Guest

    to C aka court jester..

    Why did you change your name troll? LOL

    GET A LIFE LOSER!

  • Guest

    You are a FUCKING IDIOT. LMAO at your comments.

  • OHk

    You’re “older and far, far, wiser”? LMAO! Dude, you’re on GossipCop raggin on two kids, their love lives and careers! Sorry, but that doesn’t say much for your intelligence and certainly suggests that you are pathetic and need to get a life. J/S

  • Emily

    Go back to nonsten site and take your meds!

  • Oh lord

    What a friggin dumbass you are!

  • guest

    You may be older, but you sound really stupid.

  • guest

    Kristen Stewart:from twilight prison to robsten prison.

  • Nonbert

    Ashely Greene will write it . one of Rob many angry side pieces

  • rob fan

    you are a crude disgusting idiot with vile comments that have not one ounce of evidence to support whatsoever, just ewwww!

  • rob fan

    how old is old in your book 12, 13 cause thats how old you sound, promo is over summit surpassed BD2 in the last two weekends in sales, they did not need to make kristen go to london and spend thanksgiving with robs family, he did not need to be tortured as you put it for a week, thats how long hes had to endure her in london alone without ant execs around ,poor rob, ahh the pain he must endure for summit,LMAO!

  • Guest

    I wasn’t saying these things as evidence. I was being sarcastic at that person talking about a tell_all. Everything has been said about them, what else could be said that hasn’t already. Guess you haven’t been around as long as I have to have seen all these comments said about them on blogs at the old AT board and in gossip mags. Nothing left to be said, it’s old news and no one cares. The majority of us know that Rob and Kristen are together now and probably more in love than they have ever been since they both know what’s it like to almost lose each other. Sorry but I was talking to that person that goes on and on about a tell-all here and there.

  • rob fan

    if you read what i said you would know that they will be exploited regardless of their careers, personal life sells mags and they will be cruel and make up stuff if people give them good PR than all the idiots who believe all the crap will have positive things to fill their stupid heads with ,thats all!

  • rob fan

    sorry I thought you were serious with all this, my bad! but yes I know they have been called gay and that they have slept with everyone on set and so on… I guess its a love hate relationship with fans when it comes to these two and I guess sadly it wont change.

  • Guest

    It’s Kristen’s life and her choice to do what she wants. Don’t know why you care so much.

  • S.L

    Yeah she must be magical she at so many places at once

  • justme

    this is what i was thinking when started reading you comment. glad you made it clearly.. wheew …lol. i couldn’t imagine this not being sarcastic

  • justme

    they are just two young people, blood and flesh, not robots.. of course, there was romance, friendship, hot sex and everything that goes with that…along with some kind of show for us to enjoy, why not? and who said it is a bad thing.. where it goes from now? we will have to wait and see…

  • Haters Know Nothing

    having a meltdown much lmao! their time in england really got to you didnt it.

  • Haters Know Nothing

    lmao you and she wishes!

  • justme

    if you are mature/ i don’t say old/ and wise enough you have to know by now that cheating can be a once-in-a-life opportunity to do something crazy and then become some sort of remorseful and loyal wife.. i am not sure Kristen is one of those…but who knows? i know i don’t.. :)

  • Haters Know Nothing

    lol yeah he looked really sad when he had to wipe her lipstick off after locking lips with her. he was so tired of her that he had to take her on a trip to England with him AFTER promo was done. give it up. your exuses arent flying anymore.

  • justme

    i will never understand why do people have to be so rude and hateful in their comments …

  • justme

    .. i mean rude to others

  • ASFJ

    You are definitely NOT far, far older and wiser with those comments….and poorly written, I might add. An older person with life experience sees things quite differently.
    Go back to high school….you need to improve your english skills and you’re not convincing anyone. Cruelty is the mark of callous youth.

  • http://twitter.com/Saphire1231 Chrissie

    I am disgusted with what passes as reporting these days. The gossip magazines should be banned… they are such a pervertion of the truth and teach the impressionable folks out there in the world, that lies and deceit are acceptable. I feel so sorry for anyone who is the subject of a report in any gossip mag/tabloid/media… to have one’s honour and integrity so frequently attacked – as is the case with this young couple – must be terrible, and for doing nothing more than making a movie and being in the public eye!! So sad!!! As for the cyber bullies/haters who would suck up this kind of trash and pass it on with relish and embelishments… all I can say is… there is little hope for happiness in a heart & psyche that takes delight in spreading spurious lies and innuendo. The payback from Karma is coming!!

  • Starbuck

    It’s not a matter of believing you or not, it’s just at what you are saying is contradictory. If their relationship was intense period to this, she wouldn’t have cheated. You don’t have to be a hater to believe that none of this makes any sense. If you are deeply in love with someone, another person doesn’t enter your mind, nor do you take the chance that your relationship will be ruined by making out with your married boss in broad daylight. All of this is very odd and they way they both handled it during the promo tour was downright juvenile. Show pictures of their dogs, but refusing to answer a question about your personal life directly. Showing pictures and talking about your dogs is talking about your personal life. You either are or you aren’t. I’m frankly happy to not see either of them for awhile, and this is coming from a person who loves Robert Pattinson. I will continue to look forward to his work as an actor. The rest of of this stupid story just makes no sense.

  • woof

    Hey got a pic from the airport here..new…..

    http://lesbianaforkristen.tumblr.com/image/36385531672

  • woof

    me either..

  • Starbuck

    Hey Jen. Have you heard anything about Rob and Dior. I also hear Alexander Wang was taking over at Balenciaga and thought that was curious. Have you heard this too?

  • Starbuck

    Jen – I’m sorry to see you having to deal with this, especially knowing how big a fan you are of Kristen. It’s one of the reasons I bailed. It’s nice to see you on here though.

  • andreana

    oh good grief. ashley green made the statement three years ago that she likes rob as a friend only…she said” he was not HER TYPE.”…so please STFU about ashley Green and rob…

  • andreana

    you are an idiot

  • woof

    yeah here’s the link just saw that on twitter

    http://t.co/oZ4d1tmv

  • woof

    agree

  • andreana

    agree 100%. both of them had that kind of sick haunted look of broken hearts whey they first appeared after the breakup..there was no smile in rob’s eyes even when he smiled for the cameras

  • woof

    Yep and Kristen was crying herself to sleep every night I heard, and look at all the weight she lost.

  • andreana

    exactly!!

  • andreana

    yes,,,no way that was PR for a studio…they both went through something awful….

  • lol

    so you’re really really old. wow that right there should be a reason why you
    should be ashamed of yourself. an old hag bullying a young sweet girl.
    go change your depends diaper you old shameful troll.

  • woof

    really..but all good now!!!

  • woof

    another airport pic

    http://t.co/KLKh8e9k

  • andreana

    yes, i admire rob for being strong enough to forgive her…and i think kristen would not put him or herself through that again…i love them together…i think they really love each other….i am allllll good with that.!!!

  • woof

    yep it was rough for awhile…I always remember his friends saying “they will be back because they are friends first and common goals”…but it took some time and still will…I like what Kristen said ..”of how things are more real intense now..more meaningful…like what happened was a blessing in disguise”..not that she didn’t regret what happened but the wake up call in their relationship..awesome

  • Hope

    Hey wonderful ppl… Just came p out of my Turkey induced coma…lolol…it was worth it. What have I missed?

  • woof

    Hi hope just some coming home pics from twitter…and a matchmaker saying they will be married in a year..they predict..lol

  • aquarius64

    Still doesn’t change the FACT Rupert grinded his crotch into your idol’s butt!!! @lilicat – Why would Kristen confess publicly to cheating if the pics were fake? Think about that. If they were fake, team Kristen would have put out a statement they were. THEY NEVER DID. That’s a fact you, D. Martin and every other Kristen apologist CHOOSE to ignore. Instead you believe the stories that he stalked her, menaced her, or made the workplace uncomfortable with inappropriate advances. Yet – there are no stories that Kristen went to Universal bosses to complain about Rupert (and HIS job and career would have been on the line, not hers). There are no stories that Kristen took legal action-criminal or civil-against Rupert for his behavior. Even if there were no recourse (doubtful) for PR purposes put it out there you tried just to give the predator claim some weight. Kristen and Rupsten are EQUALLY responsible for the Mini-Cooper mess, despite the whitewash you choose to believe.

  • power couple

    man they look good together

  • woof

    yes..they both seem very well indeed

  • Hope

    Just saw the pics..Kristen looks so tired…poor thing..well she sees them married within a year..wow…I mean that would be AWSOME if that’s happens. Wish both the best and may True Love prevail.

  • woof

    yep…lol..I am watching season 4 from Merlin a BBC/NBC series and he girl who plays Morgana looks just like Kristen Stewart..sisters they could be

  • Hope

    I LUV MERLIN…I dont know what season I’m watching butnim up to he eps were Aurther sent Gwenivere away after Morgana had brought Lancelot back to life and he caught them kissing…lol..but L was really dead and Merlin sent him off back to the nderworld in the end via a boat.

  • woof
  • Anne

    Yes, nonberts hate Rob.

  • Wherethefuqawi

    why don’t you tell everyone how you really feel lol

  • lamarr

    Rob looks great, like his jacket.

  • guest
  • woof

    awesome

  • karen

    where is everybody?

  • Taylor_is_a_sexy_BEAST
  • karen

    ok tks

  • nena

    I wish GC would stop debunking any article about R&K, the majority of people would not read OK or intouch or Grazia magazine or any other tabloid magazine. All GC is doing is getting more people to know about these stupid articles and some to believe them.

  • nena

    very good comment! thanks

  • nena

    Thank you! nice to see others on here with same opinion as me!, It is a very sad world!

  • http://www.facebook.com/Lysiakiwi leeanne4cali

    It kills me that even though you don’t want GC to debunk every article on R&K, but yet you are on here making comments on the thread. Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I like getting the debunked articles from GC because it adds salt to the wounds of the nonstens and haters. People are still crying PR even though the evidence is smacking them in the face constantly. People just need to give it a rest now. *sigh*

  • guest

    They do it because traffic is so high on R&K boards. It brings hits, which is what they want. They will only stop debunking if people stop commenting.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    yep.

  • guest

    Quit complaining. It gives the addicts a place to post about Rob and Kristen. What will you do when things die down and the rags have no stories about them for GC to debunk? What will you do then.

  • nena

    that was cute

  • nena

    Well really it gives a place for vile people to spew their hatred on a 22 yo girl! And it makes GC think they are more important then they really are! And gives GC a place to carefully show their hate for KS, and a place for people to hate,fight,call names,insult other people for having a different opinion. IMO

  • guest

    Fyi. The nice people are on the Breaking Dawn board.

  • nena

    I may go back there, thanks

  • guest

    And yet you’re still here!

  • guest

    I can ask you the same thing.

  • guest

    Unless you were in their bedroom you won’t know that the hot sex happened with each other. Kristen had sex with Rupert.

  • guest

    The point is : that everyone in that scenario has chosen to MOVE ON – except you it seems. There has not been proof of many many things yet people chose to believe any piece of garbage about Rob, Kristen, AND Rupert and Liberty. For Gods sake, GET OVER IT – it happened and now its done. Learn from your mistakes and move on. Stop focusing on what’s happened in the past. This applies to not just you but to Rob and Kristen etc. And it seems like R/K can actually do this – why can’t you?????

  • guest

    Or maybe one of Kristen’s angry side pieces. lol

  • nena

    No I’m not really just came here cuz I got an email about your reply! Going back to bed now

  • twilightisnumberone

    Is it Ben’s or Rob’s baby? Just kidding, lol.

  • justme

    were you in the same room with K and Ru? :) lol.. i don’t mean to fight over this, i am not her big fan either.. but there is some common sense.. i didn’t really care about “were they-weren’t they” thing, though it was pretty obvious to me, i mean Rob&Kris. all i was trying to ask why does it look fake to many people when it would be so natural for two young, beautiful actors working for years on the same set, the same movie, to have some kind of romance? right now it doesn’t really matter, what we saw or didn’t. i want Robert to be happy and satisfied with his choice.

  • Oh, Please.

    WTF? Where did this come from? What does that have to do with this story, or any of the comments thus far? Jeez, turn the page already. Side note – you don’t know what she did, I find it interesting that it looks like K is in for the sequel and Rup is out. Again, you don’t know, get over it.

  • TangaKa

    And u were there in the bedroom when Kristen ALLEGEDLY had sex with Rupert???

  • guest

    HKN, I believe what you say, but you need to say it with a few more punctuation marks. For instance your second sentence is actually three sentences run together. Also, when you make “you are” into a contraction, you have to use an apostrophy, like this: “you’re”. I ‘m not trying to be mean. I just want you to be above criticism , because I think you’re fighting the good fight. Carry on.

  • guest

    “…..deluded, bullying old hag” says the pathetic bullying soon-to-be-old hag. Does it ever occur to you ageists that you, yourself will shortly be the age of whomever you’re trying to drum out of the human race for being “old”?

  • guest

    She didn’t cheat on him. Cheating is sexual betrayal. Nobody had sex. Everybody was in public, fully dressed at all times. All that really happened was a kiss–probably the most over-hyped kiss in history.

  • aquarius64

    Sorry, guest – but thanks to the In Touch cover (and other covers like this that will eventually follow) YOU need to accept nobody is ever going to forget Kristen’s “momentary indiscretion” because she chose to do something stupid and cruel IN PUBLIC. She will never live that down. She and her team putting out stories of his taking advantage of her (total BS) serve to harden negative perceptions about her. She is willing to libel her sidepiece to save her career. With you and other Kristen stans telling people to “get over it” and “move on” this is not about Kristen’s feelings. This is about you not wanting to face and accept an ugly truth about your idol.

  • guest

    When you accuse her of cheating, you are committing libel. The dictionary definition of cheating is “to betray sexually”, and everybody understands it that way. There is absolutely no evidence of cheating. The pics show nothing but a kiss and some very g-rated hugs. As for their behavior on the promo tour for the movie–they had to talk about something. They couldn’t say much about the movie without giving away too much. Talking about their dogs? That you could find that utterly innocuous activity a reason to hate just illustrates why it is perfectly reaonable of them to want to deprive you of any more material than they absolutely must.

  • guest

    Rob was never “spotted out with Sara Roemer”, you idiot. He met a couple of producers and THEIR DATES for dinner. Sara was one of the producer’s dates. He shared a car with them, going to a club afterward, sitting next to Sara only because her date graciously let Rob get in the car first to get him away from the paps as fast as possible. Here you are, two years later, still trying to throw that at Rob and make it stick. And you people wonder why Rob and Kristen try to keep as much of their personal life out of your sight as they can!

  • guest

    Thank you, Gossip Cop. I think you’re doing a much needed service.

  • guest

    Kristen needs to quit pulling her hair back so tightly It damages the roots,and you loose hair. She looks good with her hair pulled back–it shows off her beautiful profile–but it should be pulled back loosely, both for the health of the hair and because she needs a little fullness at the sides, so her ears don’t stick out too much.

  • guest

    All the haters who are saying Rob didn’t look “into her” this tour, or Kristen never smiles at him need to check out that video. Lovely, happy couple. And photogenic! Wow!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000892749664 Anano Anka Silagadze
  • http://twitter.com/rtp456 rtp456

    Wow, did anyone see Fashion Police last night. Kristen was hammered. Kelly Osborne called her a homewrecker and gave a very harsh commentary on why the dress she wore to the LA premiere was inappropriate and Joan just kept up the jabs. I was shocked! Could not believe they are keeping this up along with the tabloids. Disappointed.

  • guest

    “..nobody is ever going to forget Kirsten’s ‘momentary’ indiscretion’ ” and you, aquarius, are going to make it your life’s work to see that nobody ever does, aren’t you? How mean and small and cruel.

  • guest

    Woof, just wondering–does your name come from Terry Pratchett’s “Moving Picture”s?

  • Yep

    The Fashion Police are a bunch of cackling hens that bitch on everyone.No surprise there. Unfortunately for Kristen, this will follow her for awhile. It will eventually be talked about less, maybe once some other celebrity does something considered scandalous. I find it fascinating that so many are still holding on to the scandal like it personally effected them and Robert and Kristen seem just fine. Very strange to me. IDK.

  • guest

    Unless you have some proof you’re withholding, that’s all in your head. And it’s libelous.

  • Guest

    Your life is so pathetic that you get enjoyment off hating someone you do not know? Pity that.

  • D. Martin

    I got to agree with him on that. It’s a very permanent way to make a statement. It mars the body.

  • D. Martin

    I agree with guest you need to get over this. And in this post you just back tracked yourself by blaming Kristen for everything — and not mentioning Sanders at all. Let’s get real here — this is not about Kristen or Sanders or Rob. It’s about YOU. YOU are the one who can’t move on and let this go. Because it appears that everyone involved has moved on so this is now YOUR problem — not theirs.

  • D. Martin

    Makes absolutely no sense to me. Why hate Rob?

  • bad advice

    Too bad she had a stylist planning those dresses for her! She had to pay the stylist and endure the critics. Shame on the stylist!

  • zelly64

    I saw it and was shocked at Kelly. She laid into Kristen and in doing so, showed how she believes the tabloids more over the idea that none of us know the complete story. I was extremely disappointed in Kelly – she made a whole point of what she said. Joan etc do bitch and carry on about everybody always but Kelly really surprised me. Very very disappointed in her. To stand on some sort of moral ground by using the word “homewrecker” and laying into Kristen as a person, yet to be on a show where they hate on and bitch on and insult absolutely everyone is so damn hypocritical of her.

  • gues

    Then you have a strange idea of what a real man is. Poor you.

  • so many idiots

    and you know this how……….???

  • Starbuck

    Committing libel? You are delusional. Apparently every outlet in the media, respected ones too, have committed the same. If there is libel involved by these outlets then why hasn’t she sued them? Think logically for a moment instead of believing what a publicist tells you. What I am saying is that this story doesn’t add up. If you are that in love, this kind of thing does not happen, especially in broad daylight when you are followed relentlessly and especially to someone who makes their reputation one of not ever doing anything she doesn’t want to do. This man didn’t just attack her as you people want to believe, there had to have been an inappropriate relationship that had blossomed prior to this. She was in a committed relationship and knew he was married and had kids. If she didn’t want it she would have put a stop to it so where does her being so in love fit in? It is so hypocritical of you people to slam and bully others or having a difference of opinion, even when presented respectfully. You all want this to go away but it won’t be anytime soon. If this were 22 year-old Sally from your office that got busted making out with her married, much older boss with children, you know exactly what your opinion would be of her. It’s sooooo immoral to pass judgement of some very immature, selfish behavior but not immoral praise and laud it? Without judgement society would be chaos. You people on your high horses really are something else. All I said is the pieces don’t add up using logic and now I am libelous. Lol.

  • JMHO4

    THIS woman has the nerve to talk about fashion? I would rather see Kristen and her stylist’s choices than this: http://en.wikinoticia.com/entertainment/gossip/106465-the-worst-dressed-golden-globes-awards-2012 Can we say jealous much….

  • issa

    The irony of Kelly’s comments is that Sharon Osborn broke up Ozzy’s first marriage. Not only that but she admitted on te view that she has nor regrets about it – actually said she was glad she did it. So for Kelly to take this attitude about the concept in general is hypocritical – especially since in this instance , unlike her mother’s, the Sanders dont appear to be divorcing and there is no evidence to suggest any involvement between Kristen and Sanders beyond the questionable events of that day.

  • Guest

    Yes…..I saw it and was shocked Kelly would be so harsh. When they nominated Kristen for best-dressed at the TFF, she said “I really like her”. What a hypocrite! Ozzy Osborne’s daughter of all people! And Joan went way too far with her filth. Her jokes are almost pornographic. Will never watch them again. Very cruel.

  • Guest

    Kelly is a traitor to her own sex…..does she call her father a homewrecker for all the screwing around he did for years and being married to Sharon, her mother at the same time????

  • Ali

    And don’t forget how Sharon bragged on the show The View how she broke up Ozzy’s first marriage and had no regrets. So for Kelly to say this when her own mother actually did break up a marriage is so sick. And Kelly has the nerve to trash others fashion choices….what a joke. She dresses like a two bit hooker. I’ve gotten to detest E and all their shows. What a cheap piece of trash that channel and online site have turned out to be.

  • Guest

    Scroll back….you’ll see a lot of people agree with you.

  • Guest

    Yes, you’re right…..forgot about that….hope Kelly is getting the feedback on this now. The hypocrite! And yes E! is a real trash site now….will not watch anymore.

  • apsara

    they met over a period of weeks so obviously it was not a one day thing , they met up for weeks as per GC

  • Guest

    Kristen is not stupid to have any more involvement with Sanders. She is smarter than that. As for Kelly she is hypocrite and a bully. When she was fat, she complained about people bullying her. Now she has changed her role as bully and is reveling in it. I don’t see the point of giving her any more attention or anyone from fashion police show. No matter how they change their outside looks, these people show us what a classless wannabees they are and ugliness seeping through.

  • woof

    your clueless…and it is time to move on

  • jen

    If you’re going to insult her intelligence, first familiarize yourself with your and you’re. Otherwise, you’re the clueless one.

  • OHk

    What do you care?

  • jen

    Do you see how immoral and hypocritical HW is? And you think Kristena nd Rob are any different? What’s worse – to call someone a homewrecker or to be a homewrecker?

  • jen

    Aren’t you the one spewing her hatred on a 34 year woman?

  • nena

    Link please

  • nena

    No , I have not said anything bad, I don’t know you are talking about? Seriously!

  • apsara

    Read the august GC posts under Robert Pattinson

  • apsara

    its in one of them

  • Hannah

    It seems like you might be able to choose to forget what you want to forget but sorry, the human minds don’t work that way and you know it. I used to be a Kristen’s fan, of course not anymore since that crap in July but I don’t want to talk ill about her, only Rob is entitled to that and because he did have a big heart to forgive, there’s not much left to say. However, I think aquarius64 is right to some extent: Kristen’s fans still believe what they want to believe, not the truth. YOU CAN’T MOVE IF YOU DON’T WANT TO FACE IT

  • Hannah

    You need a shrink, immediately. Aquarius64, I think you should stop the argument here because these illusional people are mentally ill.

  • Guest

    Everyone is still over on the BD board below. Why? Oh well guess I will go over there.

  • jenx

    still working on that Liberty and Rupert in Spain link?

  • Liberty Ross is a family friend of the Osbornes so quite likely that Kelly knows more about the situation than you do. If it was momentary, why would she be so harsh?Furthermore, she is not bullying anyone, she is stating her opinion on her show, she is allowed to do that. Additionally, she is not her mother, so to judge her by her mother’s actions and comments isn’t fair since they are not hers. Aren’t KStew fans all about not judging these days? Can’t have it both ways. Kristen’s choice in attire was in very poor taste, considering most non-Twi people think she was a married man’s mistress this summer and may still be today had she not been busted by a camera. She wants people talking about her otherwise she wouldn’t have worn outfits meant to shock. I don’t know what she was thinking, but defending her isn’t your job, it’s her job. You can be sexy, edgy and youthful without being tacky and cheap-looking. She got what she wanted, so leave it at that.

  • Starbuck

    Hey Jen! Did you see my post to you on the last board? Regarding Rob and Dior? Also, wanted to know if you heard the murmurs about Alexander Wang taking over at Balenciaga.

  • guest

    Assumptions and fanfiction. You don’t know what Kelly knows or doesn’t know, or what informed her angry reaction on the show. Whatever it was clearly had more to do with herself than with Kristen, since nobody else there reacted so violently. She’s free to have her opinion and other people are free to criticize that opinion. BTW defending Kelly Osborne and policing Kristen fans isn’t your job lol

  • nena

    I read all the aug ones and a few in July and that was not said in any of them, the only thing I found was saying that it definitely was not going on during filming!

  • nena

    I know I’m not blowing you off but the person has not contacted me back. I may have misspoke, sorry, thanks for getting back cuz I forgot who it was.

  • nena

    Well this makes more sense now!!

  • Cedric

    Thank goodness they are over there with their “hello goodbye” drivel and myopic vision with regards to Kristen and rupert Sanders.

  • Starbuck

    I’m fairly confident in saying she’s likely more clued in to what really happened than some fan that is taking a publicist word as truth. Her mother is a friend of Liberty and Kelly is speaking her opinion on her show. Logic says her personal proximity to the situation informed her reaction as the other people on that show dont have a personal connection. She has spoken highly of Stewart’s fashion in the past. Last I checked, opinions are a right ever person has. Except on this board, apparently.

  • jen

    I didn’t see it but there are a few ‘jens’ posting so a little confusing. Here’s my cache of recent office gossip: R has been offered at least three contracts. Not surprising. He’s been spot on since the Cosmo promo. Everyone is very impressed.You should be proud! :) Big thumbs up on the green suit. Hard for American eyes maybe but the Euro runways were all about green. He’s been offered contracts for years but never expressed interest before. Maybe Kristen influenced him? All teams are still ironing out details. These celeb contracts are insanely detailed. Stand here, fly here, say this, don’t say that. My guess is that after kowtowing to Summit/Lionsgate for years, Rob wants total control on this one. Fragrance contracts are easy for celebs, but talk is he’ll get clothing work too. Rare for HW. Most can’t carry it. I think he can and I’m really happy for him.
    Wang rumors – yeah. There was talk last year that Nicolas was leaving but everyone shrugged it off because the brand is massively successful and he appeared content. Total shock. The thought is that Wang and Pinault will not see eye to eye. People say the Stewart mess sent Pinault over the edge, but that’s probably just gossip. Breaking her contract (they could, there are absolutely clauses in place for that) will only make them look like fools. They did the best they could – ignore, then bury. Notice the lack of Balenciaga at the premieres?
    I know Kristen claims she doesn’t want a makeup contract but apparently others feel she’ll cave. Heard she was offered MAC recently.

  • jen

    She’s a family friend, is she? Good lord. LOLjen

  • Guest

    Oh please……….how ridiculous you sound. She’s supposed to be judging fashion, not giving her opinion on someone’s morals. Kelly is a hypocrite.

  • Guest

    And not on a stupid fashion show

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    apsara evidently thinks Gossip Cop Out is a reliable source for information. Like having a logical argument with a kindergarten child.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Why does this silly stuff have to make sense?

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Maybe her motive was to get you riled up? It worked.

  • Irate

    Kelly had the opportunity to judge Kristen’s morality when she was named one of the best-dressed when she was in Toronto for OTR. And that was right in the middle of the scandal. If Kelly is such an “Insider” and may know more because of her mother’s friendship with Liberty, she should have vented then, not two months after the fact. I don’t believe she knows anymore than you do, and it was unnecessary cruelty to bring up the same old wording we have seen over and over again..”married man with two children” crap. And this from a young woman living in the 21st century. Total cruelty and bashing. In MY opinion, unforgivable.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    A tattoo is an Inscription of the Body has has a long history, a very long one. Like a scar, or an injury, or any deliberate or accidental infliction. It’s purpose is to REMEMBER. A person with tattoos can tell you when, why, how, who what for every one they have. A sort of diary. That beautiful burial of Queeg-Queeg in Moby Dick.

  • Sarah

    So what do you think R/K are doing in NY? Does K have OTR promotional commitments? I hope they enjoy their time off before R starts working next year.

  • Starbuck

    Unforgivable? You are a joke. Stating an opinion is unforgivable but messing around with a married man gets pardoned. Wow. I guess that’s life as an obsessed fan. Look, I’m not saying anyone deserves to be bullied but there is a difference. Apparently being a fan skews all kinds of perceived rights. I can’t, it’s just too twisted.

  • Irate

    But that’s not what I said……Why didn’t Kelly say something two months ago when she had the opportunity? It seems everyone is getting beyond the story, except she….and in a very cruel way.

  • Starbuck

    Thanks for answering!! Good to see you on here. I have not been around lately, I’m sure you can guess why. Very interesting that he may the clothing too – I love it. I would love for this to happen for him. Interesting about the Mac thing. That is an edgy line, it would almost seem perfect for her. I thought the lack of Balenciaga on the red carpet was quite odd. I wondered if it had anything to do with Nicolas’s. departure because the outfits she chose seemed ill-advised. I was a fan of the nude one from the waist up and loved her hair and makeup but the rest of it, in addition to the pant suit, I thought were tacky. The gold one was not a good choice either. All of it just seemed poorly planned and like odd choices. I wondered if she would ask to be released from her obligation to them since Nicolas seemed to be her reason for doing it. That’s funny about Pinault since he’s no stranger to scandal. What did you think of her red carpet looks? Opinions seemed to be divided, as they always are when it comes to her.

  • woof

    my ass needs a good scratching..since your down there you toilet scum haha

  • Starbuck

    Also, did you see Liberty’s pant suit in London awhile back? The blue one? I LOVED it! Another look that is probably divisive but I thought it rocked.

  • BEE

    If Kelly’s mother is a friend of Liberty, you shouldn’t expect her to speak well of Kristen..so the fact that she’s close to Liberty tells me that she made that comment just because of that and not because she is aware of what happened.

  • Guest

    Go to the other Board with BD, everyone is there

  • jen

    I did see it. I adored the color. I think she’s pulling back actually. If you look at her What I Wore Today Vogue piece, you can see that she’s decidedly edgy. That suit was conservative for her. The media attention is really shaking her I hear.

  • jen

    I haven’t been around much either. I’ve never been much of a Kool Aid drinker.
    Would love to see Rob carry a clothing line. Love it.
    MAC was not surprising, no. In fact, I’d be surprised if she didn’t eventually take it. MAC has always loved their ‘dangerous’ spokesmodels. Remember RuPaul? lol It could work. Opinion on her clothing choices is far from universally positive, but her makeup is almost always great and well admired. She can wear heavy makeup well which is semi rare. She doesn’t carry clothes well though. Not at all. And that’s the prob with the red carpet wear. Murad is old school ultra glam. You need a Charlize or Kidman type to carry that.The body, the presence, the confidence, yk? Not a good designer for KS. I agree that the choice in pieces seeemd rushed, not carefully thought out. Most telling, the fit was off. That’s an unforgivable sin and makes me wonder if there was a last minute change in designers.
    I watched the LA premiere with a few friends. One, a stylist, saw Rob in his green Gucci and blurted out, “Well fuck me, he DOES have balls!” LOL Was such a great choice. Definitely ballsy and impressed the fashionistas to no end.

  • guest who

    I believe Kristen’s stylist said she had 1 more Balenciaga outfit for On The Road promo in December. I do wonder if people from Balenciaga didn’t want her to wear their stuff for Breaking Dawn P2 promo or maybe her stylist was experimenting with her different dresses. Either way, here is the article.

    http://nymag.com/thecut/2012/11/how-kstews-stylist-got-the-star-to-wear-gowns.html

  • apsara

    read article dated 29th july ..”Kristen cheated for months with Rupert sanders “……it clearly says it was more than once !!

  • jenver

    Nobody ever forgetting her “cheating” just goes to show what a great PR move it was. Her name will constantly be in the news, which is what an actress grappling for parts amongst the likes of Jennifer Lawrence, Emma Watson, Dakota Fanning, etc wants. This is Hollywood, and this is how the game is played. Her momentary indiscretion sold tickets to her movies and moved her out of the teeny bopper typecast.

  • guest

    You couldn’t be more effin wrong. I have faced the ugly truth about Kristen (who incidentally isn’t my idol, thankyou very much) and I was heartbroken to have my image of Kristen shattered. However – I chose not to focus on the past and I chose not to constantly label her and verbally abuse her, I chose not to read the trash thats written about her because as a grown woman, as a mother, I see that she has made a mistake, she seems to regret it and would like to move on with her life. The media and people like you, who seem to only focus on her negatives, chose to focus on her mistakes only and never allow for her maturing from this horrible thing that she did. How the hell would you like it in your own life if no-one, absolutely no-one forgave you for some mistake that you’d made ? No matter how much you’d changed, matured and regretted what you’d done – how the hell do you think you would feel if no-one gave you a chance or the benefit of a doubt, hmm???? Betcha ass you wouldn’t. So, smartass, try to put yourself in her shoes and see how it feels. See how it feels to make a huge mistake, and not have anyone around you understand how much you regret it, to constantly call you names and bitch and insult you – see how you would behave, how you would handle all of that. Isn’t fucken easy isn’t it??? And DO NOT say to me that I need to accept that “nobody is ever going to forget Kristen’s momentary indiscretion because she chose to do something stupid and cruel in public” quote unquote. I don’t believe that and if you do, then you’re the bloody idiot. As well as a presumptuous dickhead for presuming to know anything about me or my thoughts or feelings.

  • nena

    I did read it and the only person who said that it went on during the last part of filming was Lib’s brother who GC goes on to say he did not say it and GC also debunked it in a much later article. Now maybe I saw a different article but it debunked that it happened for months.

  • guest

    Most people do not share details of private matters with many people, maybe a best friend and closest family would be it. Sharon and Liberty are hardly BFF’s. Doubt they know any details. No big deal that Kelly gave her opinion though. That is what the Fashion Police do, bitch about fashion and celebrities. I do not see what the fuss is about. As far as how the details concerning the Rupert-Kristen thing, Rob seems to have moved beyond it so I doubt it was as bad as some make it to be. That or he is extraordinarily amazingly, forgiving.

  • guest

    Exactly.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    It is more than possible that Liberty felt it going on during filming and maybe even when Rupert chose Kristen to do SWATH. A wife knows these things. She knows when her husband is infatuated probably before he realizes it. So for Liberty it may have been going on a long time in fantasy, and in her mind and imagination. She also had the dirty little secret of Snow White to contend with.

  • apsara

    you are so naive……dont have time for this GC clearly said more than once and I believe them .

  • nena

    No I am not naive and you are rude! I went to the article and it said nothing like that! I am looking at the article right now, it says the tabloid The People has headline “KS cheated for months with RS” It says said that Leo Ross told that tab that it lasted from last half of filming to last week. Then GC goes on to say that Leo Ross never once said he had proof! And continues to say that a source close to KS tells GC that NOTHING happened during the filming of the movie…..the FLING WAS NOT GOING ON FOR MONTHS. They do say they were told don’t know by who tho that it was brief. Now that last part is crap, it didn’t even happen the one time and really I couldn’t care less what you think, I was nice to you and you arnt. Your the naive one if you believe tabloids for anything!

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    That great line in Social Network where she says, “I was nice to you. Why are you punishing me for that?”

  • nena

    Ha ha I’m basically a nice person but some people make it hard,

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Many people take nice, polite, considerate for weakness. They see weakness as an invitation to aggress against you. Sad but true.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    It could very easily have been in Liberty’s imagination. She must have known her husband was attracted to Stewart and could have imagined anything. This is a woman who games, who has blurry boundaries between real life and simulated reality. She might have said something to her brother about what she suspected her husband felt for Kristen and when he saw the pictures jumped to conclusions. Without proof because how are you going to get proof unless you are hiding under the bed or have the room under surveillance. Then Gossip Cop Out denies it to look good, and the comment boards get inflamed which is what Gossip Cop Out wants. I think this was Nick Frenkel, Rob’s manager, seeing his chance to pry Kristen and Rob loose so he could have more control over Rob’s career. Meaning: more money from studio films.

  • nena

    Well screw them! Hey did you see above that Lib is a family friend of Sharon Osborn, Kelly Osborn , the daughter trashed K on her stupid fashion police TV show last night I think

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    What did she trash K for? Fashion?

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Liberty keeps interesting company.

  • nena

    She said she was a homewrecker, blasted the dress she wore to the LA premiere! I guess her mom Sharon “was cheating ” with Ozzie when he was married and broke up that marriage. Classy

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    What did she say about the LA dress?

  • nena

    That is was in appropriate ! Wow. I thought it was beautiful! These peeps are crazy

  • oh no you did’nt!

    dude you are an ass

  • guest

    In every instance i’ve seen where Rob was said to have lied, it was obvious the interviewer just didn’t understand his sense of humor. If he hates tattoos, and he said he was getting one, shouldn’t we assume it was meant sarcastically? The story about the circus clown dying, on his first trip to the circus, which is often used an an example of Rob’s lying was obviously Rob telling the story from the point of view of his five-year-old-self—telling it as he believed it at the time, and expecting you to understand that. I’ve never seen him lie, I’ve just seen him overestimate the intelligence of American interviewers and audiences, who don’t seem to understand irony.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Far far more than that. It was a magnificent fuck you.

  • nena

    well yes, the black outfit was also!!

  • nena

    you need to look into things before you make statements you know nothing about. It sort of seems this was done to you, how angry you are getting.

  • guest

    Fact, my foot. That wasn’t a video. Some people interpret that pic as her pushing him away. You can either give it a nasty, mean-spirited interpetation or a charitable one, as your personality dictates.

  • nena

    Ha you sound like you live at their house and are best friends. I dont understand why the hatred from you? And why in heavens name do you believe anything that a tabloid says?

  • nena

    what is the truth?

  • guest

    …”nobody is ever going to forget Kristen’s “momentary indiscretion” because you ‘re going to devote your life to regurgitating it forever, aren’t you–it and all the moralistic melodrama you can load it with.

  • nena

    Im wondering why is it that anyone who does not believe what you or aquarius64 believe are “illusional people and mentally ill”? And dont you mean dellusional? Why do you need to stoop to insults and name calling?

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Hannah has problems and she doesn’t know what they are. Ignore her. What else can you do? Argue with her? convince her? Not a chance. Let her be.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Hannah is just sad. If she can’t forget it then she can’t forget it. A pity.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    She believes what the tabloids say because that is the level of her reading ability. She can’t help it. Poor schools, poor educational expectations at home, poor environment, so you cannot expect anything better.

  • nena

    Just having fun

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Her raison d’etre is to get you mad and replying to her. She can’t say anything that anyone wants to read and reply to so she makes you angry by repeating the same old same old. This is the child who kept doing the same thing that got her mother upset, day after day, month after month, year after year, until she learned it so well as a way of getting attention that it is embedded in her. She can’t stop. Let her be.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Her LA dress was not a dress. It was a statement, a sign. Kristen is the most intelligent dresser on the red / black carpet today. Everything she wears is a message. It is not a dress.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    I liked the black also. But the LA one was the one.

  • nena

    Ha too true!

  • nena

    Oh I’m not mad or upset at all, I’m having fun, they are the ones getting mad

  • nena

    you are so funny! no clue!

  • starbuck

    Yes, yes and yes. You rock. I need to take this offline please! You are probably the the coolest chick i have met out out this clusterfuck. This is a public forum and i am been following you a long time and I know you are a fan of Liberty also, Please email me.

  • guest

    Homewrecker? Time to drop that term. Nobody’s home is wrecked, at this point. Rupert and Liberty are still married and are in councilling. We don’t know what Rupert told Kisten about his marriage. It’s traditional for the older man to tell the young woman he has cast his net for that his marriage is over in all but name. And Rupert would have had evidence. Liberty left him, in 2010, for another man–his business partner!!! She came back, but interviews she gave in 2011 show a marriage that is anything but happy. In any case, it’s Rupert’s home and he is responsible for it.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    OK

  • nena

    Can’t get mad at these people

  • Starbuck

    You rock for posting this

  • guest

    Gossip Cop said there were one and possibly two prior meetings, both just some making out–no sex. The timeline doesn’t realy allow for more than that. Before the pap hit paydirt, on the 17th, he had already been stalking her every day for a week, without discovering anything, so we can assume there was no other meeting, from the 10th to the 17th. The pics didn’t come out till the 24th, and during that week, Kristen wasn’t aware she had been stalked. Presumeably, the stalking continued: since the payoff the previous week had been so lucrative, the paps surely wouldn’t have wanted to miss the chance for another. No meeting was discovered that week.

    So: one meeting, from the 10th to the 24th. That leaves only one week for any other meetings–the week of the 2nd to the 10th, since, before that, Ru was in Hawaii. Here, we get into speculation, but if Kristen was unable,or unwilling, to make time for more than one meeting with Rupert in three weeks, it seems unlikely she would have made time for more than one or two meetings with him, in the previous, single week. In any case,the meager amount of time Kristen spent with Ru this summer, and the fact that the one afternoon we know about was spent in a car, or standing up, outdoors, in public, hardly adds up to an affair.

  • guest

    Maybe if it had really been a cheating scandal, but there was no cheating (sex) and the “scandal” was manufactured by the tabs. It seems Rob has had the sense to see it for what it was, because they were only actually apart for nine or ten days. All that time when he was supposedly in seclusion sulking and fuming, he was, as he said, “living with a friend in Los Felize”–Kristen, in her new house..

  • guest

    She actually should have sued immediately, when the first of the tabs used that word. I’m sure she was advised it would just make the publicity worse and drag it out–that the best thing to do was to wait and let it dissipate by itself, but think that was wrong. After it went viral, they would have had to sue the whole world. But if I were Kristen, I actually would pick out one of the most virulent haters and sue, just for the satisfaction. Because you have no evidence whateve that she committed adultery, which is what you claim when you use the word “cheating”.

  • Usamed

    Maybe she wanted people to talk about the dress and not her life. Everyone really dose not know what is going on. Everyting is just speculation, only Robert and Kristen and may a few close friends and family know what has as is going on.

  • Woody88

    US Weekly, the semi tabloid, now runs its Kristen stories without mention or links to their scandal pictures. The normal success of Breaking Dawn 2 indicates that few if any movie goers are altering their choices due to this scandal. This is what her employers, Hollywood studios care about. BTW Kristen is awesome in BD2. This matters more.

  • apsara

    Rob’s mother is having sleepless nights over this . having a cheater for a GF for a son is a mothers worst nightmare !!

  • tired

    You know, you can catch way more flies with honey than with more flies. Kristen’s team should just suck it up just once but it’s been strident attacks about other people either doing the same thing as she did or knowing someone or being related to someone but who always gets an unfair pass. The latest besides a united attack on Kelly O or some random poor guy on twitter who saw Kristen at a restaurant is Melissa Rosenberg’s article that sounds just as defensive as Jodie Foster’s. The newest gist is that if Robert Pattinson had cheated on Kristen instead, he would have been praised and loved for it. I’ve only read 300 versions of this type of argument related to something that Kristen has done in the past few years and it gets very tired. Kristen herself even told EW during an interview that Rob gets away with saying and doing anything (like what has he said or done that is so negative anyway) and he could take a dump on the queen’s face. So she made another pr problem by trying to defend herself against a previous pr problem. But using someone else as the example all the time is the routine agenda. The bottom line is Robert didn’t publicly cheat or ever do anything to publicly disrespect her. So I find Melissa Rosenberg’s article disingenuous in assuming to know how people would react to him for something he never did and she’s just shifting the blame to everyone else again. Yawn. Each time it’s something bigger and badder so can’t wait for the next go round.

  • guest

    One other thing, do you notice how annoyed she looks that Rob is playing really nice? She’s spoiling for a fight against him versus the fans and HW so she can beat him once and for all and he’s not giving her the platform to do it. So she looks like she’s eaten a bug by having to walk nicely around town with him instead. I bet she did hiss get your hand off my azz when he placed it there on purpose at some HW function dinner, lol. I would love to have seen that one. Well played, Rob, well played.

  • guest

    *blink* How’s the weather on your planet?

  • mins

    They seem to really need a straw man to fight each time. Kristen’s fans’ rallying cry is always about something being totally unfair for her. So she needs to do something to trigger that strong reaction from her base, just like politics. BD2 is over, so Rob can’t be much of a factor in this any longer and he didn’t play it the way they thought he would I’m sure. I’m thinking it’s going to be someone else next, not sure who. JLaw?

  • guest

    The sky is blue and the grass is green and the temperature is a little cooler due to the time of season, thankfully. How is it on yours?

  • jen

    I think you missed my point. People are questioning Kelly’s morals because she called someone a homewrecker. Ok, not a nice word and I personally think it was uncalled for. Yet these same people take issue with those who question Kristen morals because she cheated. If we’re going to question morals, which is worse – cheating or calling someone out for cheating? See my point?
    As to the rest of your post, if you think Liberty hasn’t been deeply hurt you’re crazy. If you think their marriage hasn’t taken a potentially fatal hit, you’re even crazier. Couples don’t go to counseling just cause. Liberty was set on a divorce for weeks following the 25th until Rupert was able to convince her to rethink it. That story about Liberty leaving Rupert for a business partner is thoroughly untrue. A few hardcore Kristen fans started that rumor. In the last interview she did before the scandal she said her marriage and life were “amazing.” Rupert IS responsible for his home, yes. And my understanding is that he’s attending to it, which he should because he was admittedly very neglectful for years due to his professional ambitions. But women, including Kristen, are responsible for their actions. Getting involved with a married man while you befriend his wife is not something responsible women do. And as much as I like Kristen, that’s exactly what she did.

  • jen

    Maybe next time don’t be so quick to slander people? There’s so much about Liberty you don’t know, and apparently even more you’ve assumed or dreamt up.

  • jen

    “a family friend’ is blowing it way out of proportion. Liberty appeared on an Ozzy cover when she was 8 years old. She did a little modeling as a child. Not much. I think it would be more accurate to label Sharon and Liberty aquaintences. Same with Kelly. Liberty was popular on the UK social scene for several years so obviously they ran into each other. She’s also aquaintences with Sienna Miller. Do you remember LA The Music Center benefit that Rob attended recently? He said his friends and neighbors Natalie Portman and her husband Benjamin Millepied invited him? Ben just directed two music videos for Libery’s brother’s band Io Echo. In fact her brother Leo was there that night too. HW is isanely incestuous. All the “liberty is a nobody” talk is ridiculous. She’s actually very well connected and always has been

  • jen

    She’s an interesting person. I can understand what Kristen saw in her.

  • jen

    I just wish she had attended a fitting or two.

  • jen

    Huge fuck you, absolutely. She’s a fighterby nature and like a cornered animal she spat back. Owned it, as they say. But what a waste.

  • nena

    Ha, as if you dont slander K every day!! Also I could say the same to you about not knowing everything about Liberty, not an innocent person at all!! Do some research on her! And Jen i think I was talking to Jenz. Anyway from what I have read above from you, you are not a nice person, and I dont talk with unkind people.

  • jen

    That’s actually not me! :) At least three Jens at this point, I think. Can’t say I entirely disagree with this one though. I should suck it up and register but every time I post here I tell myself it will be the last time.

  • jen

    I’m a very nice person, Nena. I’ve been a fan of both Kristen and Liberty for several years. I don’t slander either one. I actually know a good deal about Liberty.

  • nena

    Some people dont read! I agree with everything you said wxcept that I dont think anything happened on the 17th. I dont think any of the pics were real, even justiceforkristen guy says not real!! And spells it out but these people that dont want to know the truth wont go to the site! I still think it was a set up and while RS may have called her and sat in the car, MAYBE, nothing happened. If people would just think about things, all the evidence its a no brainer, she did not cheat, ok let the trashing on me begin.

  • ellenj55

    You guys are writing like you are owed an explanation, haha. Robsten could give a rats a– what you think. He has forgiven her and God even forgives. I guess you are above that right! Only thing you are owed is a good performance for the price of your ticket. If you don’t like either one it’s sad for you because you are too invested into something that’s none of your business. And you cowards who set behind a keyboard and make slurs on someone you personally don’t know should be ashamed. Go do something to help someone and move on.

  • jen

    To add to the ‘facts’ there is video of Charlize leaving the restaurant while Rupert and Kristen stay behind.

  • Starbuck

    I wish people really understood you perspective on this, Jen. It makes me sick that so-called fans make up rumors about a woman they don’t know as some way of justifying their idol’s behavior. I find it odd that Rupert is so concerned for his marriage right now, considering it was not a priority for years. I truly don’t understand what he thought would be the outcome of his affair with this much younger woman considering they were going to film another movie together. Most KStew fans I’ve spoken to in the fandom (outside of GC) seemed to believe that he was in love with her but I’ve never thought that. I think he just wanted to have sex with her. I honestly can’t believe that she got herself into this. I spent months trying to rationalize her behavior but I just can’t do it. Your last sentence is why. Screwing around with another woman’s husband when you have befriended the wife is pretty low. As a woman, it’s pretty indefensible. I dont consider this to be a mistake, I consider it to be a character flaw. I can’t understand how anyone with any integrity can stomach that unless you are totally blinded by love or something (lust?). Do you know if they were friends or more like acquaintances? There are conflicting stories on that. Rupert said they were all good friends but then said later that Liberty and Kristen didn’t spend much time together. I have heard some things that I can’t repeat on this board that may explain some of this. Anyway, I’m sure I’m going to be called a hater again but it is what it is. If you want, email me and I can tell you what I’ve heard. Starbuck5555@hotmail.com. I understand if you would rather keep the anonymity of the board though. I feel bad for Liberty and her children the most out of all of this and can appreciate your perspective as a fan of both women.

  • Starbuck

    Also, do you think divorce is still on the table? As a woman, I am rooting for Liberty to leave him. I feel bad for the kids but I think she can do better. JMO

  • nena

    well you did jump on me very fast and you dont even know what we had talked about a while ago. There are several Jen above it is difficult to know who is who, just like guest. How do you know so much about Lib? I have seen the tweets she sent right after the fake scandal came out, who would go to twitter the first thing after the (FAKE) pics came out? She made sure she was seen out alot, then told a reporter in London that she “hadent been out of the house in 7 weeks” when she had so many pics taken. On Halloween how would papz know to go to the private party they were attending? How in London did the papz know where she would be on her birthday to take pics with an old bf? And the reporter to tell her sob story to? What about her being photographed twice once in a tshirt that K wears ad one R has? How did the papz know what office building her and Rup would be at when they were seen outside the building? I just dont think she is so sweet and innocent. Now if you know something else tell me. I dont want to argue, i wont do that the way some so here, there is no point as everyone is intitled to their own opinion,

  • jen

    Well, let’s see. You’ve said she’s guilty – of what precisely I don’t know. You’ve said she played a part in either orchestrating or revealing the scandal. You’ve accused her of cheating on her husband. You’ve accused her of stalking Robert. You’ve just told me she’s “not innocent” and I should research her as if she had some buried skeletons in the backyard. And that’s just what I’ve seen.

  • Starbuck

    Why would she admit to a lie though? I’m not going to trash you for having a opinion. You are right, this story doesn’t add up but I don’t think it ever will. The people involved seem to want to move past it, whatever it was.

  • Starbuck

    Very interesting!

  • nena

    I agree that Rup was infatuated with her and wanted sex. I dont think K got herself into anything but a set up. She is not stupid! Ans she didnt screw anyone!!! So dont spread that! K is a collateral damange from the setup, she did not cheat, and why would she really? I dont think K and L were anything more than people who met on set. Rup is the one who compared K to L which I think is creepy, and it was when he was standing with L! I wish people would go to justiceforkristen site or tl.gd/jt1q49

  • Starbuck

    What do you mean what Kristen saw in her? Is it your understanding that they were actually friends and liked each other? Liberty sounds like a really interesting person to me.

  • Starbuck

    I agree totally. I thought she was giving everyone the finger for all the names they called her. I loved her hair and makeup but really didn’t care for the dress. I don’t think she cared if anyone did. It was like a shock and awe thing. Served it’s purpose.

  • jen

    I do recall your Spain story. Yes, there are a few Jens. It confuses even me!
    I know a lot about Liberty for a few reasons.
    The tweets? You mean Snow White pic? Well, Liberty new about the fling before the pics were released. So the pic wasn’t posted immediately after.
    All the pap pics – I think you should put this in perspective. Consider all the times the paps DIDN’T catch her. She attended a Madonna concert in NYC recently and was backstage. No paps. No mention in the gossip rags as far as I saw. Wonder why as that would have been nice publicity. A few trips back and forth between LA and London yet no pap pics at the airport. Now consider the pap pic of Liberty taking her kids to school. No makeup, hair a mess. Why would she call the paps in that condition? Truth is the paps were parked outside her door for months. The catsuit? Well if someone at Marco Marco hadn’t alerted the paps that Liberty had purchased a catsuit costume from them, maybe the paps wouldn’t have thought to show up on Halloween. Or maybe they would have anyway because Liberty and Rupert live in neighborhood with many other celebs – her friends Jeremy Scott and Orlando Bloom live nearby – so the paps probably show up routinely. Her Malibu place is gated but the Hills place is not. The London party – it’s a big deal there. The paps are there every year. If you google you’ll find pap pics taken of Liberty attending previous years.
    Which office building do you mean?

  • jen

    And I don’t like to argue either. I can discuss calmly and reasonably even if I don’t agree with someone.

  • Starbuck

    I am not spreading that. I have no idea if sex happened. It’s impossible to know the truth about that. The damage was done regardless.

  • jen

    Her hair and makup were fantastic. That was a difficult dress though.

  • nena

    Many people think that the photos are photoshopped, so you get a call that usweakly has pics, they come out and it is you but not you. You know you never did those things and were never at the that guardrail. So you and your team know that everyone will believe it is you at those places and you doing that because they can see it. People will believe everything they see, well some people that is. How can you deny it when it is you? No one will believe you! No one! So Im sure her team thought lets just apologize and get on with it, I dont think any one could have even dreamed on the backlash that K got. Never dreamed it would get so bad! I think a few people are involved here

  • Starbuck

    I don’t think anyone could have dreamed that the backlash would be this severe. I think it is letting up though. I think you are pretty much just left with the people that didn’t like her prior to this. That won’t change anytime soon.

  • Starbuck

    I think she has a face that is probably a makeup artist’s dream. It’s like a palette or something. Her makeup is always fantastic, except for that black eyeshadow debacle a couple of weeks ago. My favorite look from her was the NY screening of OTR after TIFF.

  • nena

    yes the damage is done and its the media who did it! They need to be stopped or made to have to print truth and not get away with it by their wording. The media makes stuff up and I wonder if GC has something with them to print crap so GC can debunk something? I wish the media would quit,

  • jen

    My understanding is that Liberty, being a very friendly person, really opened herself and her home up to Kristen. I’ve seen the phrase “Single White Female” used and I think that might be a little extreme but it speaks to something. Liberty is older. Her life was settled in a way Kristen’s isn’t. She’s very easy in her own skin. She’s thoroughly creative. By that I mean one of those types who does even the most mundane task with a certain artistic flair, if you know what I mean. I saw the wedding invitations she and Rupert dsigned. they were so adorable. They gut and remodel houses. The ‘park art’ pics she would post on the vogue blog. She’s comfortable in the fashion world that Kristen was just then entering and she helped Kristen out in that regard. I don’t mean she helped Kriste get a contract with Balenciaga – Kristen can do that well on her own. I mean she helped Kristen deal with a Balenciaga contract. She helped her acclimate. I thought it was interesting to hear Kristen’s comments on the fashion industry. that a good editorial is like a movie, that designer pieces are truly costumes and if worn well you are playing a part much like an actress. these are things Liberty has been saying for years. I don’t mean to say that they became besties – not at all. But they were absolutely friendly and I think Kristen saw a more PERSONALLY accomplished older woman and admired that. I think she appreciated the life Liberty and Rupert had been living. A very artistic, easy, bohemian life well connected but away from the public eye.

  • nena

    yeah I think it brought the worst in humanity! Very upsetting that our society is so full of hate and can react this way

  • nena

    yeah I think it brought the worst in humanity! Very upsetting that our society is so full of hate and can react this way

  • nena

    I appreciate your opinion I just dont think K and L were ever that close. R was on Set alot and many rumors (I know ) that Rup didnot like RP at all. I think L was jealous

  • Starbuck

    Good Lord, Jen. My mouth is agape right now. The betrayal that was involved in this situation just surpasses anything I could have imagined. Coveting another woman’s husband in the literal sense. Nothing about their decision-making process regarding this fling makes any sense whatsoever. No wonder KStew is staying away from Hollywood parties, she must feel embarrassed and humiliated given the people
    Liberty knows in the business. I cannot imagine how Liberty could ever trust him again.

  • Starbuck

    A lot of celebrities deal with online hate. It’s the current reality for many of them.

  • jen

    Like I said, I don’t believe they became best friends. They did socialize, even Kristen said this. I can’t speak to the rumors of Rup disliking Rob or vice versa. Liberty said the move to LA was difficult and I believe it was. She took on so much all at once. She was pregnant when they moved. 6 months I think. Did you know? Imagine how hard that was. The Hills home was not yet ready to move into so they were stuck in a small rental place for nearly a year while trying to finish the new house. Rupert plunged headfirst into building his career and was definitely neglectful. He’s very ambitious and understandably felt time was slipping away. Lib was away from most of her family and most of her friends back in the UK. Her lifestyle changed on a dime. It was tough, I’m sure, to get used to it but she said she did and eventually learned to love LA. They sa she’s happiest in Malibu, which makes sense given what I know of her nature. Not true that she stopped working. Liberty resigned to Storm Modeling Agency in 2007 or 2008 -can’t remember which. She immediately got work because her rep in the business is stellar. But, as she said, she was semi-retired.

  • Starbuck

    Also, I cannot imagine how Liberty deals with the fact that Kristen’s people have been pushing the idea that Rupert pursued Kristen until she caved. That is almost more insulting than the cheating itself. It could be true for all I know, but I am always hesitant to take a publicist word when it comes to a celebrity story.

  • lillicat

    The vid I saw showed Charlize & Kris getting in the car, while RS stayed behind with some other guys on the sidewalk.

  • jen

    The ‘did Liberty know?” question is an interesting one. The infatuation between Kristen and Rupert seems so obvious doesn’t it? Yet, did anyone see it before the pics? All those interviews … did any fan say, “hey, looks like maybe somethings going on there” Not that I saw. I didn’t take notice of it. Did you? Now I know Librty saw Rupert and Kristen engage much more than any of us did, but I still wonder if she went into denial like so many women do. “the wife is the last to know” They say people around them only began to notice something at the London premiere. Leopold Ross’ comment confirms that. Maybe Lib brushed it aside. Maybe liberty befriended Kristen in an attempt to neutralize her – an old trick. Maybe Kristen befriended Lib to distract her – another old trick. I don’t know. One thing I’ve considered is that Rupert was supposedly a much better husband before the scandal broke and Lib was supposedly happy with his newfound attentivenes to her and the kids – remember the interview where he said Lib was such good mother and so supportive even though he had been so busy and away from home? Well, I wonder if that was his way of easing his own guilt and distracting her from noticing the affair going on under her nose.

  • nena

    The one where it was thought to be a lawyer or therapy office. I would rather disccuss nicely also. On a site crushable back in july we all discussed so nice for months. Im sorry but I dont care for L. She has been caught in lies and I dont think there was any fling at all, none. The pics are photoshopped and done badly, really go to justiceforkristen site it is all spelled out in black and white. He goes step by step in breaking the pics. Someone set K up, and I think that the only people that really had anything to gain got the fame they wanted. No one even knew L and R beforee this, not in the states. I didnot care who for SWATH was, most didnt. Now their names are known, L is trying to get back to modeling not many even knew who she was, and I think she was feeling old,left out. Problems with many models I hear. Rup wasnt really known here outside the gaming world. I dont want to go into details but just dont trust her.

  • jen

    No she hugged Rupert and Kristen goodbye in the restaurant and walked out alone.

  • nena

    t hanks, nice people are hard to come by here! I dont come here very often because I dont like the way people talk. GTG talk later

  • Starbuck

    Oh God. I just do not get it. I don’t understand how two people could engage in this type of behavior if they supposedly adore their partners so much. This seems like such juvenile behavior for a man his age. Her apology was so startling to me and I’ve never been able to reconcile her relationship with Sanders to how much she supposedly loved Rob. I really wonder if Rupert was the one who told her he wouldn’t leave Liberty once they were discovered and she freaked knowing he ruined her relationship for nothing. But then again, she doesn’t seem mature enough to date an older man and play stepmommy. All of this was so reckless to do, especially given the apparently didn’t want a relationship with each other. I would almost be able to understand it more if they had pursued a relationship with each other.

  • jen

    and I don’t mean to say that K and RS were in the place alone after Charlize left. I think other members of the promo group were with them. Also, I don’t know how long RS and KS remained behind.

  • lillicat

    I’ll bet Rob loved that dress! She looked amazing!

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    I’m not sure Kristen saw anything in her beyond an acquaintance, but I could be wrong about that. Actually I meant the comment about Osbourne sarcastically. I think all the women in that family are trainwrecks living off Ozzie who I have heard is a good musician.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Ah but you don’t understand that dress. It was not a dress.

    Foucault: This Is Not A Pipe.

    Diane Rubenstein: This Is Not A President

    A Floating Sign.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Not at all. I just haven’t finished deconstructing it. It has taken a lot of contemplation but I think I’m finished now. It was a WOW!

  • jen

    The first pic w/ Lib in the navy blue suit was a lawyer’s office. The paps followed her from her house. The pic ouside the deli was a therapists office. Incidentally they were never in the deli (it’s a good one though!) the office is next door and the car happened to be parked outside the deli. See what the gossip mags do? All the stories about Lib and Ru having lunch there were totally bogus but someone’s pr campaign wants you to think everthingjust great between R and L. The hugging pics were outside a therapist’s. They’ve been attending sessions for weeks so easy for the paps to find them. Interesting that the mags chose to run the pics just as they gave us pics of RP and K with each other, wasn’t it? Nice how that worked out. See? everything’s just fine, kids! zzzzzz

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    No not that way. Not any more than 50 would have except alone and in the bedroom. But it wasn’t a dress, it was a Floating Sign. That was why he loved it. So was his GREEN suit. Got it yet.

  • jen

    It was a dress like Scarlet’s red drapery dress was a dress. I get it. But the bad fit still makes me cringe.

  • Starbuck

    What is the message behind the green? Apparently I’m dense. Lol

  • lillicat

    Yep. I loved that suit too. I’ve heard more than one fashion writer say it took balls for both of them to wear those choices. Kris is one person who could wear the nude gown and not look sleazy, and she had a body suit on underneath. I liked the black jumpsuit also. A floating sign…..I like it! When do you get out of TJ???? You were mysteriously removed from my account.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    No it was like the black wedding dress Ayn Rand’s Dominique wore to her wedding with Gail Wynand. It wasn’t supposed to be fitted.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    C’mon. Think about it. The word Green is used as a metaphor for what?

  • Starbuck

    Money? Jealousy?

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    It wasn’t a dress to be liked. Nor was the Green suit. This is not a dress. This is not a suit.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Money. Jealousy is not bad either. Thanks. Gimme the green man, gimme the green.

  • lillicat

    I know, woman. But I liked it anyway. When are you going to post on your blog abt this??? I know what is swirling around in that brain of yours. HAH

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    I checked your profile because I was going to follow you and I saw that you are still stuck in the media manufactured Debordian SPECTACLE of the scandal. How can you still think that with all the photoshopping expose on my blog and on the lawyer’s blog justicefor Kristen. She didn’t cheat. It was all made up, all those pictures were photoshopped. Where have you been?

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    It could have been used for The Dance Of The Seven Veils. Did you see it in Charlie Wilson’s War? Or read it in Tom Robbins Jitterbug Perfume (?) I think. It is in one of his books and Jezebel is in it too.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    TJ IDK. they said 1 hour and it’s been 50 so far.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    You’ve written a lot about Liberty but I see no mention of her dark and erotic side. Just the wifely stuff. Nothing about her little movies, her gaming, ………all that is important.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Nena the gaming world is BIG, much bigger than Twilight. Or the tabloids. He did the campaign for HALO. HALO 1 took in 40 billion. HALO 2 took in 60 billion. HALO 3 a multiple of that. HALO 4 just came out and 40 million the first day and it has months and years to go. The first Microsoft venture into the VR gaming world ruled by the Japanese. Sanders is big time, big time, just not in our little world here which is pretty insular. No he had nothing to get. Liberty hasn’t gotten much either. But she sure did cut her husband off at the pass. A strategy worthy of a true gamer. Brilliant.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Charlize was photoshopped out of that dinner pic.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Americans tend to think people are friends if they go out and have lunch together. Europeans, and I include the UK, don’t think like that at all. A friend is someone you have known and gone through thick and thin with. Others are acquaintances. Americans meet someone and think they are best friends if they talk on the phone the next day. “Facebook” reinforces this fake friendship idea. The dirty little secret of Snow White is being played out in fantasy. Liberty was probably jealous just because. Nothing needed to have happened for her to be jealous. Who knows how Sanders felt. But we can guess how he felt when he saw those pics.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    But starbuck why do you still think the scandal is true?

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    The media is what it is. It has always been that way. The “tabloids” on the internet are just following the same old same old template. When you jump in and try to correct them it just adds to the furor. If you jump in on something, go to the end and destroy the story. Now you know how to do it. But I would really have to care about the person to want to do it again.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    I am sure no apologies would have come out were it not for the protection of Liberty. Both would have said that they weren’t there and that the photos were photoshopped and gone on about their lives. Just the fact that they would both be seen with their others would mean that they weren’t paying attention to it, that the pics were fake. But they couldn’t say they were fake. As I said, brilliant strategy.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Did he really say that in front of Liberty? OMG no please, no, he couldn’t have done that.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Just go digging around. Liberty has a dark erotic side that doesn’t look wifely, motherly and poor little ol me.

  • jen

    When you say “know one even knew L and R” what you’re really saying is YOU didn’t know them. I did. Many of the people I know knew Liberty. Mass media wasn’t selling them and the mainstream public didn’t know their names. But did they want that? HW knew Rupert. He’s been talked about in industry mags and on industry websites for years. How many directors have household names? Maybe half a dozen at best? Ask your neighbor to name 6 directors and you might get 3. Producers and studio execs knew RS’s name and really that’s all he needs. He didn’t need this shitstorm of a scandal to tarnish his career. Most people think crossover models like Gisele and Kate are the only successful ones. Not true. The most successful models within the business aren’t gracing Victoria’s Secret catalogues or waltzing down the runway with Leo DiCaprio. Most of them you’ve never heard of. Heidi Klum? Nice celebrity. Lousy model. Had Liberty dumped her no name, not so well off, not very successful bf Rupert for a film star or musician most people would have applauded. She didn’t. Liberty was offered scripts in 2003/2204. She declined and chose to marry and raise her children instead. Does that sound like a famewhore to you? She was famous for declining modeling gigs if they didn’t fit in with her breastfeeding schedule. Famewhore?

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    So many were made up that I believe they all were made up. Lie to me 20 times and tell the truth 3 times? I am gonna believe you?

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Waste? How so?

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    It wasn’t supposed to be fitted.

  • guest

    There is no way she would have admitted to that if it didn’t happen. She employs a publicist who would have known exactly how bad public reaction would be. It would have been simple to prove the photos were fake and file a lawsuit. Just know if you continue to believe this, you are living in denial.

  • Starbuck

    I appreciate all the work you put into that but I dont believe she would admit to this if it was fake. Her career was on the line.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    She would have if it were Liberty who did it. KS and RS would have both had to agree they were photoshopped, right? If one said yes, and one said no, then it wouldn’t fly. As soon as the photoshopping came out they both knew they were fake, but Rupert knew Liberty had done it. did he want to send is wife to jail for fraud? He must have told Kristen the jam he was in. Rupert cannot testify against his own wife in the eyes of the law. They both had to decide in a hurry how to handle the problem. I think they took the best route. Just my opinion tho. I can’t come up with anything better and Liberty certainly knew people who knew how to do this. But read my blog post on it. At least as far as I’ve gotten so far.

  • jen

    I think Rupert was hit in the face with a very large bucket of ice cold water. :)
    Have not heard that K and L spent much time together during filming. The majority of the time I’ve heard they spent together was during pre production.
    Message sent.

  • D. Martin

    I’ve noticed this as well. In fact, some of the US Weekly stories have been downright defending and positive.

    Abbeysbooks – what do you make of this?

  • jen

    I don’t need to go digging around. I know. Liberty is very comfortable in her sexuality, very comfortable with her body. She’s famous for taking her clothes off in front of the camera. Rupert and Liberty’s level of kink and s+m is fairly mild imo. I don’t personally see anything wrong with that. Maybe the years I spent in Europe gave me a different perspective or tolerance level. I think she’s been a very supportive wife and a by all accounts a stand out mother. Sexuality and motherhood are mutually exclusive? The ‘poor little me” routine is something the media wants, maybe the people want. It’s not something she’s going to give you.

  • jen

    It was supposed to look like she bought it off the rack?

  • jen

    I read through a good part of the Justice for Kristen site. So many holes and inaccuracies. I left a post pointing a few out. It was gone within the hour.
    ’nuff said.

  • jen

    I agree with your basic cultural generalization. However, you’ve neglected to acknowledge the individuals involved. Liberty is very friendly. She’s more like an American than a European in that regard. Everyone is a “friend” I really can’t see why Liberty would be jealous of Kristen before the scandal.

  • jen

    Abbeysbooks, I also appreciate the time you’ve invested, but …. I wonder if your affection for Rupert has caused you to associate too strongly with Kristen and unnecessarily villianize Liberty. I mean, the actions you’re attibuting to her are so extremely out of character. You’re so off base.

  • Guest

    Yes he did….sensitive of him, wasn’t it…called K “flawless”..tried to backtrack by saying she reminded him of his wife at a younger age.

  • Guest

    Nena….warning…apsara is a nonsten

  • jen

    Actually he said her accent was flawless

  • Irate

    Yes. Exactly what I thought too…..Fuck you, everyone….very ballsy of both of them.

  • nena

    Thanks! And a rude person! Oh well can’t help people who don’t want it!!

  • nena

    Which guest are you?

  • Guest

    Seen some of her pics….yikes! Full frontal nudity and on You Tube!!! Poor little gal.

  • jen

    i know so many people who are salivating, lighting candles, all but sacrificing goats on a altar to Baal in the hopes that Rupert will direct a Halo feature film. Seriously that ODST trailer was outstanding.

  • jen

    My Navy Seal brother in law told me he and his buddies will watch it to “get in the mood” lol God bless and pass the ammo. Speaks to its power though.

  • jen

    lol In the past I would occasionally bother myself to ask people why nudity bothered them. I gave up on that.

  • nena

    You are right I didn’t know either but I have a feeling more people in the states didn’t then did. In those pics, the ones of Rup alone supp walking back to his house twilighter who does justice for Kristen site says there is no way he did not know he was being photographed! I just think we will have to agree to disagree on this and that’s ok, but back to K go to justiceforkristen site, he does think that all 4 were involved in this staged scandal which I don’t agree with but he has proved the pics are fake!

  • Guest

    Oh yes that’s right …..you’re the sophisticated European. Well, if you can stand there with your legs wide open for all the world to see, that’s great! Just sayin’

  • jen

    I’m not a Euro. Born and raised in Lower Manhattan.

    “legs wide open”?? lol She’s not a porn star.

  • nena

    I think it’s creepy that in some grade schools here at least the teachers use the word friends all the time, “you join this table of friends” or “join hands with your friend” or ” ok friends lets do this” NOT. Everyone is your friend and I think it is strange, the word won’t mean anything if everyone is your friend

  • jen

    Actually fwiw GC’s debunking consisted of a “nameless source close to the people involved” supposedly telling them the Leo story wasn’t trueIn contrast, The People mag identified Leo by name – a risky move if it can’t be proven the person in question talked. The mag continues to stand by the report, they’ve never retracted it. Also, Leo himself has never publicly denied the report and no charges were filed by him or Kristen’s camp.

  • nena

    Oh I know how the papz and tabs work! I don’t think the tabs wanted to prove that everything was fine with them, they wanted everyone to think that it was horrible between R and L because that made for much more hatred for K! Nice doesn’t sell, scandal does! How can they call K a homewrecker if the home isn’t wrecked!!

  • Woody88

    These kinds of stories are going to be generated for a long time. The trick for R/K is to turn this notoriety into paying jobs. The Balenciaga Florabotanica campaign was a good first stab at this for K.

  • Starbuck

    It will be interesting to se if they survive this with their marriage intact. Also will be interesting to see what becomes of his career.

  • jen

    Why is ‘dark and erotic’ not ‘wifely’? I’ve seen her short films. I thought they were well done and nothing shocking. Are you wondering why Kristen can’t or won’t do the same? I’m not sure what you mean by ‘gaming’

  • jen

    Because it was reactionary. She’s embracing a cliche and I really hoped she’d do better than that. I still have hope.

  • nena

    There are too many lies to count! People lies all the time, the apology that K made (If it was made) the writer tweeted that she had said it came form K but that it didnt it came from source. People is a tab and all can lie by wording. Usweakly never retracted that the pics were fake either, no one is going to file charges, too much crap. Several cast members or people on set said nothing ever happened, and as I said R was there alot. The tabs tried to say the pic of all the cast out to dinner was a cozy dinner for 2, idiots think all of us are stupid, CT was sitting inbetween them. and by the way the real discusting video of Rup readjusting himself in public is sick! The look K has on her face when she sees what he is doing is totally grossed out. But thats what media does. Leo would have every reason to lie also, and Rups own dad said it was nothing.

  • nena

    why do you think that? IF the pics are true like I think you do why would he be surprised at all. He knows K is followed all the time, and IF he wanted something other than job talk why not go to a hotel? Why would he do that in public and then be shocked?

  • jen

    Oh, I agree about the lies. Everyone is trying to manipulate the story in their favor – lots of self serving hands in the pot. Leo did have reason to lie. So did Rupert’s dad. So did Kristen. Everyone! I don’t necessarily believe what Leo said, but I do believe he said it. No way would that rag name him as a source if he didn’t talk. It’s pretty clear that Liberty’s camp was trying to answer Kristen’s claim of “momentary indiscretion” Of course, Leo was shut up good and quickly and now few even remember the story. Liberty has a lot of friends but she doesn’t make 100′s of millions for HW studios. She’s expendable and that’s why you’ve seen the backlash against her.
    lol Men readjust themselves in public all the time. I doubt Kristen was grossed out. If she was so grossed out by him, why all the praise for him? Also, I think she was looking at Charlize not Rupert.

  • nena

    I know it must have been hard but she lived in LA when she was younger and she has a brother and sister in LA. I was 5 months pg and had a 1yo when we moved to a different state, I had no family, no friends and left a job I loved. I knew not 1 person, not 1. I know she didnt stop working, but she said she did in an article a few months ago, something about how hard it was to move to LA and how she found out being domestic was not what is was cracked up to be or something like that. Well too bad that taking care for your children is boring, who doesnt think that. She has told many lies since this whole thing happened. But like I said before we dont have to agree.

  • Guest

    Oh, OK….sorry New Yorker….let’s say the pose was enough to shock someone who’s been around the block a few times! Certainly made me wonder at all her sweet appearances here and there all of a sudden this summer. Looks like there is a darker side to this gal……

  • jen

    Are you asking about the bucket of ice water comment, nena? By that I mean Rupert is being schooled in hardcore HW politics. I also believe he sees Kristen in a clearer light. The veil has been removed, so to speak. And for her as well. I don’t know about Kristen (I think her motivations for the fling were very different) but Rupert’s vivid imagination serves him well in film direction, maybe not so much in real life. Tell your friend abbeysbooks that her lone and palely loitering knight is no longer enthralled.

  • nena

    yes you are right!! The thing about the video of Rup, she just was grossed out by him doing that in public, I think before that in a longer video C tells everyone they are being papz and he stil did it later. IDK but ick I know all do it but try to hide it!

  • jen

    We are entitled to our own opinions but not our own facts, yes? For instance, Liberty moved to LA with her parents when she was 6 months old. The family returned to the UK when she was 6 years old. Tough times in LA before the move back. Very chaotic. Financial difficulties. She lived with an aunt and uncle briefly. And a lot of tough things happened during the recent move back, like the death of her baby nephew, that Rupert wasn’t around for like he should have been. Things she endured on her own. She did stop working for a relatively brief time after her daughter was born, so that wasn’t a lie. You can say a lot about Liberty but she loves those kids, nena. She is extremely close to her mother and I don’t think anything means as much to her as being a good mom too. I’m not her friend but there are some things said about a person so often and by so many that I can’t discredit them. Everything she’s done that I know of speaks to her love of those kids.

  • jen

    maybe he did it for the paps? lol

  • Starbuck

    What do you think her motivations were? Responded to your message. :)

  • nena

    Yes that is what i was talking about. How does he see K in a clearer light? See I dont believe there was a fling at all! I dont think Rup was naive in HW politics at all! I really dont understand about the lone and paley knight is no longer enthralled any more means?

  • jen

    See this is what I don’t understand. Nudity is dark? Dark and scary? why?? Liberty is a model and, like it or not, an extremely good one. Like any good model, she gives the photographer what he/she needs. If they need a sexy look, she’s sexy. If they need a sweet look, she’s sweet. If they need a bitchy look, she’s bitchy. This is what genuine models do – not the name brand models – the real fasion models. tbh the two things I have heard most often to describe Liberty from those that have known her and worked with her are “very professional” and “sweet”
    It’s like the jerks who think Kristen is a miserable bitch all the time because she won’t smile for the paps. Obviously that’s not the real girl. Doesn’t matter how many people who know her describe her as funny and happy. People want to think she’s a grumpy bitch so that’s all they see

  • jen

    See this is what I don’t understand. Nudity is dark? Dark and scary? why?? Liberty is a model and, like it or not, an extremely good one. Like any good model, she gives the photographer what he/she needs. If they need a sexy look, she’s sexy. If they need a sweet look, she’s sweet. If they need a bitchy look, she’s bitchy. This is what genuine models do – not the name brand models – the real fasion models. tbh the two things I have heard most often to describe Liberty from those that have known her and worked with her are “very professional” and “sweet”
    It’s like the jerks who think Kristen is a miserable bitch all the time because she won’t smile for the paps. Obviously that’s not the real girl. Doesn’t matter how many people who know her describe her as funny and happy. People want to think she’s a grumpy bitch so that’s all they see

  • nena

    KS has had more hate than anyone in a long long time! She has had more crap printed about her that OJ, Sandusky,the movie theatre shooter, John Edwards,Arnold S.combined!!! She did not kill anyone, molest anyone,or cheat on anyone get anyone PG!

  • nena

    Im sure she does love them. One question and Im not trying to be snippy were the kids with her when she was in england for her bday? I dont know her either and Im going on things I have seen and read. It just seems funny that someone who’s hubby was kissing ( I dont believe) someone and not long after you are seen holding hands with another man, then I think it was a different man in england, shooping holding a balenciago bag front and center, seen in shirts that both Rob and K have been paped in, giving interviews when you are out for your birthday. Im not saying anyone should hide but If you are really bothered about something why put on a show. both R&K were not seen for weeks until promos, and even then they never talk to a papz. I should not ahave said things about L before but when people here are trashing K so much to the point she did hide, and going on and on about poor L, well my true thoughts come out. I do believe what I said but should have
    kept it to myself. Thanks for a civil conversation!!

  • jen

    Right because what does all the pain and humiliation mean as long as everyone makes money off it?

  • Starbuck

    God, he just sounds like a terrible husband.

  • Petranella

    It really was. That cracked me up.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    A mother who loves her kids so very much is interested in a fantasy the child has for dressing up for Halloween. Do you agree? At a free school I taught at the ids had to make their own costumes, they could get help, but they were the creators of who they were going to be. It was a project. Something creative parents and creative children like to do rather than go out and buy one. Liberty is creative from her little movies I have seen. So wouldn’t you say that parents who love their children so very much would like to enter the child’s fantasy? It’s about love, right? So Halloween night Liberty is all decked out as Catwoman, The Dark Knight Rises Catwoman, who is a Virtual Reality character in a Game in the movie. She moves like one and her expressions are like one. Nolan has interfaced a Virtual Reality character in his movie. This is the fantasy costume Liberty chose to wear for herself. What did her daughter wear? A regular school dress with a man’s tie around her neck and a wig with long gray hair. A sort of afterthought for a costume to go out trick or treating. Nothing that took any time, thought, pleasure, fun, creative thought, understanding your child’s fantasy. No Halloween night was all about Liberty looking like Catwoman, sleek, sexy, strong, with the nipple of her tit visible through the rented/bought costume. (I have no idea if her tit was photoshopped on it or not. Someone said the costume has it there. IDK.) But this is not the way a mother who puts her children first on a children’s exciting night just for them, behaves. Halloween was all about Liberty. So please, I don’t want to hear any more about how much she loves her kids. I don’t get what she said about pale knight unless she is talking about except that I mentioned David Foster Wallace’s book Pale King published posthumously. Not a big deal. Rupert knows plenty about politics. Check out jen’s profile and today she is going on and on about Kristen cheating. Sounds like a dumb cunt to me.

  • Petranella

    They were friendly but not “friends” Lib and Kris. Also the affair/tryst would likely be the last straw, not the catalyst in their marriage. Adultery is usually the result and not the cause in a longer term marriage.

  • Petranella

    agreed. The hate and excoriation has been way over the top insane.

  • Petranella

    I bet they were friendly but not friends–certainly not on set. How much they got together away from that? still unknown.

  • Starbuck

    Every part of this post is out of line. You know zero about Liberty as a mother or what transpired on their Halloween night. Calling someone names is uncalled for.

  • Petranella

    It seems that there are now rumors floating around at all from people on set or promo time. I feel that info. could come out in dribs and drabs in the next few years.

  • Petranella

    IMO–just not enough is known.. These folks have spent many days and weeks 24/7 AWAY from the cameras. Things look strange from our perspective because we don’t have a complete picture. But it is a very intriguing mystery for sure. I personally don’t see Kristen or Rupert as bad people. Perhaps they had an attraction to one another that they tried to fifght off for a long time, or a while. No one ever brings this possibility up.

  • Petranella

    He is lined up for more films. They have had around a 14 year marriage I think–wow–I am No H-wood celeb, but long term marriages with kids definitely present challenges.

  • nena

    Please you really can not believe L knows more people in the buz than K really how does L know so many poeple? K has been in HW her whole life not to mention her parents both work in HW! And really coveting another woman’s husband , so Rupig is innocent here! K didn’t covet anything. And the reason K stayed out of the public eye I’m sure because of all the hate, death threats and other crap the media puts out!! She didn’t do anything and was not humiliated. The whole thing was a set up, and pics are fake.

  • Petranella

    She pussy whips Rob—No that is not right She is pathetic and clinging on to Rob.

  • jen

    They were married 9 years this past August. I agree, friendly not real friends. Sometimes the problems are situational, sometimes inherent to the relationship. The former is much easier to remedy. Both couples seem to be making an attempt. we’ll see, I guess.

  • Petranella

    Exactly. I don’t think ppl. realize that they are not owed an explanation and they may never get one,

  • Petranella

    This is a temporary blip. If it serves USW to show Kristen in a bad light again–they will.

  • Petranella

    WTF?!

  • Petranella

    Isn’t the Dog thing a way of talking/not talking about their relationship? They have never talked about it previously.

  • Petranella

    Reallymajor fan wars going on. I feel sorry for Rob and Kristen and hope that they don’t spend much time on the internet.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    I pay no attention to US Weekly or any of the others. I don’t care what they say. Not now. The scandal is over and any remnants are just that, leftovers.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    There are a bunch of people moving in here to torture you.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    I am just reading a photograph. I have studied art history and reading paintings, pictures, etc. That’s all. Read it yourself. What do you see?

  • Petranella

    Yes, we will see. However it all turns out, there is much more to all this than the public knows at this time.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    No she wasn’t. Not at all. Much too sophisticated for you to understand. When I get around to explicating it you can read me if you are in the mood.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Her films are very erotic and avant garde. Gaming is Virtual Reality Gaming. Go check out Dead Or Alive, the Liberty character who becomes Kokoru in 3 I think it is.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Exactly. You are becoming post modern in spite of yourself nena. That’s how you destroy anything: excess.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Twilighter is an excellent facts digger upper. As an intuitive, imaginative thinker that he is not.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    He would be perfect.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Well guest just does not want to look at evidence. Natalie Goldberg is a wonderful writer and in Long Quiet Highway she details when she “learned to trust her own knowing”. You look at photoshopped pics, read what is said, evaluate it and no matter what someone did or did not do, you yourself decide what is true. guest obviously has to base her understanding on what Kristen’s publicist did or did not do. That’s how she conducts her life. It makes living very very difficult.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    nena there is nothing wrong with rude. And guest is not being rude, just being stubbornly dumb. Here in the Ozarks “people are dumb and PROUD of it”. Sounds just like these people you have been talking to here.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    They sent a very specific message that was intelligent, creative and very sophisticated. Worthy of a Nietzschean strategist.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Unfortunate that you can’t praise a younger woman without your wife seeing it as an insult to her. When is that ever going to stop. Not until “who wears this dress better? x or y?”

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    My affection for Rupert? I don’t know him. I have no affection for him. Do I think he is skilled and do I respect his abilities? Yes, of course. What does that have to do with whether the sun comes up tomorrow or not.

    You do not see Liberty clearly, which is why you projected and said Rupert sees Kristen more clearly now. Your statements are classic Freudian inversion of positive and negative, inversion of my seeing Liberty clearly NOT and Rupert seeing Kristen more clearly. These are unconscious projections where you invert the projection to disguise it more fully to yourself. This means that you do it in many other ways too. It really messes with your life, your linguistic ability to say what you mean, and your ability to think logically and clearly. It’s why you are useless to argue with. It borders on pathological.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Read Snow White. Then read Pinkola-Estes Women Who Run With The Wolves and what she has to say about the Snow White folk tale. Then go to Bettleheim and his psychoanalysis of fairy tales and read what he has to say about Snow White. You get a Freudian interpretation from Bettleheim and a Jungian one from Pinkola – Estes. That should do you for awhile until you learn something. That is, if you want to learn anything, which I sorely doubt. Be my guest. If you were in my class I would flunk you. Today is your lucky day.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Obviously the lawyer thought you were bonkers, which you are.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Stupid question.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Go kiss her then.

  • nena

    It wasn’t guest but apsara who is rude!

  • nena

    Ha I try! In spite of myself!

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Nena I have decided to stop replying to you on discus when you are on Gossip Cop Out. I can’t stand the company you keep there! LOL! I am serious though. No more on that site for me.

  • Hannah

    Kristen cheated, hence the public apology. Guess you haven’t read it yet, shame on you.

  • nena

    That may be your truth but its not THE truth! I am sure I have read much more on this topic then you have! Shame on you! I guess you can believe what you want or the truth!

  • jen

    Thank you for the civil conversation, Nena. :) They are hard to come by these days.
    Liberty was not in England for her birthday. She was in LA with her children. She spent time in the UK just before her birthday with her parents and some close friends. My understanding is that she wanted time to clear her head and make some personal decisions. I suspect she needed a good long talk wih her mother too. I heard but don’t know for certain that there was a bit of business to attend to regarding a documentary she might be producing. It has been in the works for about two years, I think.
    The man she held hands with as she crossed the street is a very old friend. Yes, an ex bf. Briefly dated about ten years ago and remained friends since. Rupert knows him, the kids know him. He attended Liberty’s bday party last year while she was in the UK w/ Rupert. The man she was seen shopping with is the fashion editor for Elle US, and he’s gay. You know as well as I that the tabs enjoy creating scandal were there is none.
    I think people have made too much of the Balenciaga shirt. They’re popular shirts. I don’t think Liberty or Rob were sending any messages. I’m not familiar with a shirt Kristen and Liberty shared.

    I understand your need to defend Kristen. I really do. I’ve spent years defending her. As a fan of both L and K, I feel very torn because I hate to see either misunderstood and maligned. Neither are perfect but I liked them both before this ugly mess and I continue to like them.

    Thank you for the chat! I enjoy speaking with those who disagree with me. It helps me reassess and refine my own thoughts. Peace.

  • nena

    Your welcome and thank you! People can disagree and it be done without name calling! Some people just yell and fight just to fight!

  • jen

    Oh my. :))) Such an excessive reaction? I did not expect this so soon. So emotional for a such an intellectual woman. Always the veneer of intellect hides a deep turbulent sea of unacknowledged emotions. Typical. Yes, you are infatuated with Rupert. I’ve hit a nerve, I see. He’s passionate, urbane, sophisticated, sexy, powerful. Familiar words, my friend? Liberty isn’t good enough for him, is she? She doesn’t understand him the way you do? I’m laughing, abbeysbooks, at this little girl crush of yours.

    No, a parent should not enter into their child’s fantasy. That is sacred ground and adults can not and should not enter into it. No adult is permitted in the Neverland! Were you lonely in your childhood fantasies? Misunderstood? Were you not allowed a fantasy? Is this your pain, abbeysbooks? Is this why you create such intricate fantasy worlds still? Where are your children, abbeysbooks?

    If you were my student I would take away all your books. I would force you to examine yourself. You hide from yourself in these books, in these intellectual pursuits. You hide behind the names of confused dead men. You have acquired some small portion of knowledge, but you lack wisdom. I would have you begin the process of unraveling your own raging nafs before you attempted to discern another’s. Here is wisdom, abbeysbooks: a donkey with a load of books on its back is still a donkey.

    Liberty’s daughter chose to dress as a popular children’s character, Frankie Stein.

    The knight comment is a nod to Keats.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    enjoy!

  • guest

    The rebuttals are not for Hannah or for aquarius. They are for the silent visitors to the site who may believe what they read from aquarious and Hannah. Without a counter–argument or real facts to counter the factoids, how will all these people know that and Hannah and their like are—ummm– mistaken? Or should I say FOS?

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Every time you reply you continue it and so do I. I am stopping it. It no longer matters now. It’s over. For those for whom it is not over, it never will be anyway.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BGZ4KNIWZA4EYW4DKM4NJ5O53A Landen

    oh please………..

  • guest

    I question your morals for stating, without evidence, that she cheated. The tabs fed you that word from the first moment, to pump up a kiss and some fairly tepid hugging into a SCANDAL but you should have had the sense not to fall for it, and the sense of fair play not to repeat it. To cheat is “to betray sexually” (Webster) and that’s how everyone understands the word. Note the next poster down, simply assuming, after a thousand repeats of the C word, that adultery took place. There is no evidence anything more than what the pics showed took place, and that certainly was not sex. Innocent until proven guilty is the principle on which our system of justice works and the assumption any fair-minded person applies. And logic argues that no adultery took place. That meeting was the only time the two were together over a two-week period (Kristen was stalked every day during that time: If there had been another meeting, the paps would have had pics) If Ru and Kristen had been in a sexual relationship, would they have wasted that afternoon on a kiss in a parking lot, some hugs by a fence and a lot of driving around? Can neither of them afford a motel room?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BGZ4KNIWZA4EYW4DKM4NJ5O53A Landen

    Maybe that is what KStew was trying to do last summer–kill the Robsten prison..I don’t even know how those two have been able to conduct a relationship under the scrutinization they get from obsessed “fans”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BGZ4KNIWZA4EYW4DKM4NJ5O53A Landen

    I think the same thing about the way the media fed the word “breakup” to the public. Cuz I can see where this would be a natural assumption, however! Is there a solid confirmation that Rob ever said to Kristen “we are over and I am outta here.” which would be a true breakup. So did this happen or were Rob and Kristen “separated”, “estranged”, not talking etc etc. and does this mean they were “broken up” If they never were officially broken up, the “taking her back” also loses it meaning.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BGZ4KNIWZA4EYW4DKM4NJ5O53A Landen

    I doubt if that is her concern after an International flight.

  • guest

    I think it was just the traditional midlife crisis. So many heretofor sensible, men go off the rails at forty-something. Right at this critical age, Ru found himself in a power positon, over a lovely talented little movie star who had the added attraction of belonging to the most desired man on earth. What a coup if he could walk off with her? What better proof he had not lost his machismo? I think he convinced himself he was crazy about her. He looked so blissed out, just holding her in his arms, that I really think he’d have wrecked his marriage and his career for her, if she’d been willing. I think that’s what really what upsets the haters so much–the fact that it didn’t look like a cheap hookup. It hardly looked sexual at all, it looked like love–at least on his part. I think the haters can’t let this go, they have to keep trying to destroy Kristen because she embodies their greatest fear–the beautiful young woman who’s going to mezmerize and steal their middle aged husband–and, to add insult to injury, when she didn’t even try–doesn’t even want him!.

  • guest

    La Belle Dame Sans Merci. by John Keats
    Ah what can ail thee, wretched wight/ alone and palely loitering/ The sedge is withered from the lake/ And no birds sing.

  • guest

    The red carpet thing is a wierd ritual that gets wierder every year. Say it’s literally freezing weather and you have a whole crowd of normally dressed people, wearing coats, hats, gloves, and on the red carpet, guys in suits, who can wear an extra set of long johns under the suit. Then you have the female cast, who have bare arms,chests, backs and often dresses slit to the thigh. And they’re not supposed to look cold and miserble. Kristen ‘s latest outfits just carry it to an even further extreme. I mean, premiers, in the early days of movies were black tie events. The guys wore tuxes, the women evening dress, but outdoors, when it was cold,they wore fur coats. Now Kristen has to wear a fllm of lace, that shows her crotch, her butt, and looks like nothing anyone would wear to any sort of social event unless you call a striptease a social event. The event looks sort of like a slave market, where Kristen is being auctioned off.

  • guest

    They never actually worked on the set together. Their scenes were entirely separate.

  • guest

    You’re assuming there was an affair going on under her nose. But Kristen’s rep said nothing happened until two weeks before the pics came out, and it was only that meeting and one or two others, and never any sex.

  • guest

    First, don’t assume it was more than it was. Her reps said only one or two meetings before the one that got papped, and It think that’s credible–first because the timeline doesn”t really allow for more (see earlier post) and second, Kristen was under such constant scrutiny (much more than she knew, it turned out) that they couldn’t have met more than a couple of times without being discovered. And the meeting that got papped was obviously a working meeting, with the makeout part occupying a few minutes of it. Otherwise, we’d have seen more pics (the paps claimed to have taken more than two thousand. If they had got more than the fifty “interesting” pics we saw, they’d have sold them, so it follows that what we saw was all there was. Kristen was holding a sheaf of papers in some of the pics–presumeably the script Ru was working on for the next SWATH? So the meeting was probably mostly story conference, not the long makeout session the tabs sold it as.

  • guest

    She didn’t covet him. She made that completely clear in her apology. Ruppert was obviously the agressor, in the pics, and in reports from the set. The only explanation that works is just that Rupert was her boss/her director for months, during which she learned to jump when he said jump) literally–that was realy Kristen, jumping off that cliff into the surf) and was expected to be her director again, for the sequel. She may have simply felt she couldn’t haul off and sock her director, when he kissed her, but you notice, she managed not to get kissed again. In the fence pictures, she turns her back to him, she turns her head away, she keeps it down, and, without being confrontational, she does manage not to get kissed again.

    Rupert and his writing partner were working on the script for the next SWATH–which, it was rumored, the studio meant to be the Huntsman’s story, a prequel which might or might not even have a part for her. Rupert, if he came up with a compelling script with a good part for her, might have made the difference. If he phoned to invite her to read his latest draft (the papers in her hand?)she ‘d have had all kinds of reasons to want to take that meeting that had nothing to do with indiscration.

  • guest

    I thought the lawyer was bonkers. Smart, detailed, obsessivley thorough, but bonkers. The idea that Rob, Kristen, Libety, and Rupert would plan this as an elaborate prank to embarass the tabs just doesn’t fly. She said that they would have to expose the prank before the premier of BD2. They didn’t. Twilighter thinks the tabs would be embarassed to have fallen for the prank. Naw. The tabs make fools of themselves–contradict themselves–daily. Nothing– NOTHING embarasses them. And the idea that Rob and kristen wouldn’t forsee the hate that would fall on Kristen for the “scandal” is also impossible to swallow. Of course they would have forseen. And would Kristen have consented to become the most hated woman in the universe just to play a joke on the tabs? Would she have failed to see the anguish this would cause her fans? Or that, when the “joke” was exposed, the fans, who had mourned the loss of their dream, would feel THEY had been used and manipulated? As would the mainstream press and the celebrity interviers? No, no, no and no. If the pics were photoshopped–and I believe that’s a possiblity– the simplest explanation, and the only one plausible to me, is that the paps did a cut and paste job for the money. But that doesn’t allow for Kristen and Rupert’s appologies, whch I don’t think you have succeeded in explaining away.

  • guest

    I’d say I’ve been around the block and it shocked me. The video with the guns stuck in the underwear kind of made be queezy, too. If Kristen had done either of those, can you imagine the reaction?

  • jen

    I agree that the typical mid life crisis was very much a contributing factor. Other issues as well. Too much time spent away from his wife. Professional pressure the likes of which most of us can’t image. The super ego charge of a 170 mill movie.
    “most desired man on earth” lol C’mon now. Rob is cute but you sound too much like a fan there. :)
    I don’t believe this was a cheap hookup. RS and K got along famously by their own admission. He liked her and she liked him. I vehemently disagree with your claim that she ‘didn’t even try.’ That attraction was a two way street. Kristen fans, particularly Robsten fans, have a difficult time wrapping their minds around this. She’s looking pretty blissed out in those pics too. The drug like high of an infatuation. Kristen is also under tremendous professional pressure. Troubles with Rob. Growing pains. The desperate desire for artistic validation. The overwhelming need for an escape. She needed/wanted Rupert. She’s human, yes?
    But all this is shallow. Warm happy delusions they shared. Reality smacked them in the face and they both ran home to their partners. Infatuation is not love.

  • jen

    w/o evidence? I don’t believe the photoshop theories. They cheated. Liberty herself, who I presume knows more about this mess than you or I, said they ‘cheated.’ You have an interesting definition of cheating! :) Had that been your wife or husband in the mini cooper, how would you feel? A kiss may be of a sexual nature, or not. Those kisses were decidedly sexual. Whether they had intercourse is anyone’s guess. I’m on the fence. Kristen could not have been paped with Rupert within the time frame you suggest. Rupert was in Hawaii the first week of July. Therefore, between the 9th and the 17th, we have one recorded meeting. I don’t think that is unusual.

    You assume too much concerning paps. What they have we don’t know. 3 photogs and we have 50 pics? There is more here than has been released. The tabs are allowed to go only so far before the studios put their collective foot down. Just as often the tabs work FOR the studios, stars, producers. The tabs are not the rogue elements many believe them to be. Think of them as the controled opposition.

  • jen

    Totally agree … and your slave market analogy is an interesting. The looks on the faces of the studio execs watching her says it all.

  • jen

    What block is that exactly? :D The Damaris campaign was hardly controversial imo. If Kristen had done that campaign (ludicrous thought but for the sake of argument) we would have seen a huge uproar. Kristen’s image and audience are quite a bit different. Her middle of the road Bella loving fans wouldn’t know what to make of it. Damaris is an upscale Euro line. They don’t market to kids. They don’t market to Peoria. It’s not Victoria’s Secret.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    I am not doing long thoughtful replies on Gossip Cop Out anymore. I did reply to you on part 2 of 3 on my twilight blog if you want to read it.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Let them believe it then. If there are no rebuttals they will get tired and go home for their cookies and milk.

  • Guest

    Nena…although a little late…once again I must warn you…..Starbuck is a nonsten.

  • nena

    I figured, with that absolutely stupid, comment that was so absurd and I cant even think of any other words to fit how utterly insane the comment was.

  • Woody88

    @jen – Pain and humiliation seemed to last for about 3 weeks for the directly involved parties. Evidence is that this was about secret meetings and kissing. I do not think that shocked fans (myself among them) count!

  • Woody88

    I have no doubt that Rupert and Kristen had a great time during the hours/days that their fling lasted. I have no doubt that Rob and Kristen are having a great time now. All this heavy concern about an actress (not minister, not leader, not declared saint) is pretty hilarious when you take a breath. The actual participants and affected parties are fine and I am sure better in many ways from whatever personal realizations came out of this scandal. Peace!

  • http://www.facebook.com/mari.tan.90 Mari Tan

    That’s what it call french kiss . . . baby.

  • jen

    3 weeks? I wish that were so, Woody.

  • jen

    “These folks have spent many days and weeks 24/7 AWAY from the cameras. Things look strange from our perspective because we don’t have a complete picture.” Absolutely right! So many variables.We have so few puzzle pieces.

  • Starbuck

    Is he really tarnished though? This “scandal” is pretty minor in Hollywood terms no? I was under the impression that he still has big studio support. One big exec was still in his corner I read, although I don’t remember the name. Twilight is over and I would think the fandom would dissipate over time. Those are the only people that hate on him. When he goes on to direct other films, this will eventually be forgotten. Maybe I am underestimating?

  • Starbuck

    Sigh

  • guest

    Nope. Haven’t noticed any of the things you invented. Did see a beautiful video of moments from the BD2 tour–dozens of them–where Kirsten is smiling up at Rob with a look of total adoration. You “bet” she did hiss “get you hand off my azz when he placed it there at on purpose at some HW function dinner? Well, one guest’s “hiss” is another guest’s “whisper”. This guest would bet she whispered–if anything. That little gossip nugget has been through enough hands and had enough chances to change and morph that It wouldn’t be wise to bet any recognizable version happened.

  • guest

    That’s not my definition of cheating, it’s the dictionary definition–Mirriam Webster, as I mentioned. When you –and the tabs–use the word “cheating”, people do assume you’re using the dictionary definition. They asume that “sexual betrayal means “sexual intercourse”, and they accuse her of it, often in the most vulgar terms possible . The pics show no such thing. They show a kiss and, as I said, some fairly tame hugs, and that’s all you, or anyone, has a right to accuse her of.

    Liberty may have used the C word, but, obvously, she wasn’t there.

    You stated, that there are more pics (assume you mean incriminating pics) than have been released. Oh? You would know this how? Presenting something as a fact, when you just made it up, is called lying.

    You don’t know that the studios, or anybody else control the tabs. The queen of England herself couldn’t prevent nude pics of her offspring from getting published here. (She could do so in England and France, because the law is different.)

    I mentioned in a previous post that Rupert was in Hawaii the first week in July. We have one recorded meeting between the ninth and the 24th, though Kristen was under constant surveilance during that time, which supports the claim that the whole “affair” consisted of only two or three meetings.

  • guest

    Kristen apologised for a “momentary indiscretion”. It was the tabs who labled it “cheating”.

  • guest

    Sold tickets? What evidence is there it sold any tickets? BD2 performed at the box office about the same as the previous films. It seems to have caused the cancellation of Cali and the sequel to SWATH, and she says she has nothing lined up. Fail to see how the publicity did her any good.

  • guest

    I didn’t say I desired him. My tastes run to white-bearded rocket scientists. But of course Rob is the most desired man on earth right now. Next year, or the year after, it will be someone else, but right now, can you think of another man who attracts thousands of screaming fans? OK, maybe Justin Bieber, but Bieber is a boy.

    Word from the set was that Sanders pursued her outragiously, and that she really did try to keep it professonal. I don’t see her looking blissed out in the pics. I think she looks abashed, uncomfortable. I think the meeting really was sold to her as a reading of the latest draft of Rupert’s script–the papers you saw her holding in some of the earlier sets of pics. Remember, he had promised to include her in the creative process on the next movie–both flattering and exciting, as she wants to direct and write. She said she had followed him around the set “like a puppy”. trying to learn all she could about the business. I think when he made his move, she didn’t want the physical involvement, but didn’t want to lose the good will, of her freind and mentor and past and future director. The first kiss was the last (I believe if there had been more making out, there would have been pics. I think the rest of the 2000 pics the paps said they took were too boring to sell–just a couple of people talking and reading a script.)..I think that’s why she gets out of the car, at the bridge–to avoid another situation. After that, in the pics by the bridge, she turns her back to him, turns her head away, keeps her face down. If she had lifted her face, even once, you know there’d have been another big smooch, but she does not. And she didn’t meet him again. For two weeks, while she was under heavy surveilance, but didn’t know it, she didn’t schedule another meeting. The haters assume the “affair” would have continued, but we are just as justified in assuming she realized she was in over her head, and ended it.

  • Guest

    You are right…but can they see reason?

  • jen

    Affairs are no big deal, no. Who in HW would chastise RS for messing around with an actress? Hardly anyone, right? Because most of them have done it themselves and HW morals are not middle class America morals. I think the issue is the blatant capriciousness. They were fools and because of that they were caught. They potentially damaged a franchise and a hoped for franchise. I don’t think Rup’s career is tarnished as in “You’ll never work in this town again!” His film made money and he’s talented; he has powerful people in his corner. But this mess is on his resume forever. In his wiki, yk? Neither he nor K will ever entirely shake it. Like Brad and Angie where the ghost of Jen lingers. K can potentially make the vampy seductress who steals married men image work for her. Rup can’t. He’ll always be the shmuck who cheated on his wife.
    On the other hand if his next film doesn’t do well, he might as well head back to the UK.
    He just this month filmed one of those big budget long form James Bond type Heineken commercials btw. I think they wrapped just before Thanksgiving.

  • jen

    Nena, I think maybe Starbuck meant that beacuse Liberty’s brother attended the party, Kristen wouldn’t feel comfortable making an appearance? There were many rumors at the time that kristen was attended but was not pap’d. With the knowledge that Leo Ross was there, probably safe to say Kristen chose to stay home.

  • nena

    That’s what I saw!

  • Look in the Mirror

    Kind of makes me sick you would make up lies about a women you don’t know just because you hate her and are jealous of her. And don’t get all sanctimonious about judging someone else’s character. You need to take a long in the mirror. And don’t babble about some supposed things you can’t repeat. It looks like fabrication and lying are part of your character.

  • guest

    fantasy land. Your imagination is about sick as the rest of your bs.

  • guest

    you two need to get a room. You feed on each other.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Why do you not think the video could have been cut – edited like a movie – to show what they wanted you to see. How can you believe the video any more than the pics. You can add stuff in them too. Credible yes. That’s all though. We have no way of knowing how they left the restaurant or what Rupert did with his hands under the table, just what someone projects that he might have done and makes it explicit.

  • jen

    Merriam Webster tells me that to cheat is to be “sexually unfaithful.” It does not specify straight up intercourse. Again, a kiss may be sexual in nature or not. Kristen wasn’t kissing Rupert like I kiss my grandmother on the cheek. Now, like it or not, some will look at the evidence and assume Kristen and Rupert had sex. Some will not. Some, like me, will sit here on the fence. There was an intimacy displayed in those pics which might easily be attributed to a sexual relationship. It may just as easily be attributed to a longstanding emotionaly intimate but non sexual relationship. R and K were in each others close company for well over a year.

    Liberty DID choose to use the word “cheating.” If you want to jump into the endless pit of semantics, your use of “may” is inappropriate. Though she was not present at the scene of the crime, I trust she’s since heard an earful about it from her husband. Does her choice of words tell me w/o a shadow of doubt that R and K had sex? No. It doesn’t help your case, to be sure. But it doesn’t prove anything. Point being, if the wife says “cheating” is an appropriate description, I’m not going to argue. R and K cheated. Once, twice, for many months as Liberty’s brother said, I really don’t know. I’m sad and disappointed about too. But they cheated. Suck it up.

    I strongly suspect there are more pics. I don’t know. Many on both sides of this issue have found the lack of pics dubious at best. Again, 50 pics from multiple paps is just plain hard to believe. Common sense tells me there are more. WHY they haven’t been released is another story …

  • jen

    The Queen of England? lol Think about what you’re saying. The tabs and the HW elite exist in a symbiotic relationship. They need each other. Is it a pleasant relationship? Hardly. More like two mafia families doing business. One hand washes the other. Case in point: do the tabs know certain HW stars we won’t mention by name and not yet out of the closet are gay? Course they do. Do they release that info? Not if the Studio/star in question trades another golden nugget for their temporary silence. Do publicists buy off/threaten/bribe the tabs? Do the tabs threaten and bribe the stars? Oh goodness no! hahahahah

  • jen

    “I mentioned in a previous post that Rupert was in Hawaii the first week in July. We have one recorded meeting between the ninth and the 24th, though Kristen was under constant surveilance during that time, which supports the claim that the whole “affair” consisted of only two or three meetings.”

    here’s the problem: you’re assuming the parties in question weren’t made aware of the pics before the 24th. Wrong. They were given a heads up by the 20th, at the latest. So safe to say R and K called off any potential further contact at that point, yes? Now what you have is one meeting between the 9th and the 20th. That’s one meeting in 12 days. Fairly standard for an extramarital affair. We know the “affair” (I’ll give you quotation marks cause I’m a nice person) was happening before Rupert’s family vaca to Hawaii because the paps were on K’s trail even before he returned. Someone alerted the tabs because they had a psychic moment and knew Rup and Kristen were about to indulge themselves? No. Also there is that pesky, too obvious to be discredited Natl Enquirer blind item. Blind items are the tabs way of testing the waters, releasing dangerous info they don’t yet have proof of, threatening the star in question. ie People in the industry knew what was happening – either a turncoat in R and/or K’s camp, or a pap saw something before th 17th but couldn’t get a good pic/proof. For how long it was happening, we can’t say.

    fwiw My PERSONAL opinion is wasn’t too long. promo not filming.

  • twilighter

    Hi Nena;

    Sorry, to butt in, but If you are talking about me, you’ll need to tune in to the Great punk part 11 when it gets posted shortly. I am not saying that all the photos are completely fake, only that nearly all have been digitally altered in an obvious way to cue viewers that they aren’t entirely what they appear to be. This is critical distinction that casts doubt on the “set up” scenarios” and strengthens others. More to follow, please don’t jump to conclusions.

  • jen

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W084_61Ztjc

    Look again. Charlize leaves first and alone. She hugs Rupert, waves goodbye to Kristen who remains seated. (I was wrong on that one – I thought she hugged them both) Rupert sits back down next to Kristen. Then Kristen leaves, gets into a different car. We have no way of knowing that I can tell exactly how much time elapsed between Charlize’s exit and Kristen’s. Rupert remained behind after K left. There are men standing outside, yes, but Rupert is clearly still in the bar.

    Of course this doesn’t prove anything other than we see what we want to see and we remember what we want to remember.

  • jen

    Oh and , nena! Skip past 1:25 if you don’t want to see Rupert with his hand down his pants. :)

  • nena

    Your right, I must have thought it was same. A side note did you hear the papz camera, how fast they take pics? , see how a sec can be turned into how many pics! One innocent kiss good bye can give paps 15 pics! We have no idea like you said about order of anything. K could have left a min later and was just waiting for C car to leave. And again no way to tell how it was put together, cuz this way C does spot papz and the R readjusts right in front of a waiter and waitress walking by. And the Look on K’s face is clear. Oh well, thanks

  • nena

    Sorry, i ment that things are not black and white. I said I dont think they are real and ment that you say not real, not necessarially all. Cant wait until part 11

  • Starbuck

    Lol

  • guest

    Like two Mafia families doing business? Like how they macnine-gun each other down? This is not a good example of one hand washing the other. And the tabs constantly hint about the supposed gayness of one star or another, almost never offering any evidence.

  • jen

    mafia families do business when it’s mutually beneficial. They don’t gun each other down in the streets if they’re in business. Is this a hard concept?

    yes, they HINT. This is my point.

  • jen

    Starbuck .. I just want to warn you … though it’s probably too late .. Look in the Mirror is a nonbert. Be careful! :)

  • lillicat

    Wonder if there were 2 vids? Or if this person is determined to pin something on K while she was filming, which is so not true.

  • guest

    Actually, you can chose to forget.. The human mind works exactly that way.

  • guest

    So I have a right to my opinion that your opinion is FOS?

  • guest

    As usual, there’s more than one guest here–at least three, I’d say– each with her own opinions.

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    The consequences of ID of Guest. It has its advantages and disadvantages. I hope she knows which guest she is. Did I reply for nought?

  • jen

    I didn’t say you desired him. :) I said you were a fan who can’t see clearly. He’s not my type either. Rob’s a boy imo … and isn’t Channing Tatum the most desired man of the moment? lol So hard to keep up. But no use arguing. Rob is popular and his fanbase is almost entirely female and largely young. The ‘screamers’ as they’re called. Past that it’s pr led hyperbole. He doesn’t have the universal appeal of, for instance, Brad Pitt in his prime.

    “word from the set” Word from Kristen’s camp, you mean.
    I’m wondering how Kristen can tell me she followed Rupert around to the point she felt he was annoyed with her, yet he was simutaneously “pursuing her outrageously.” Are we defying the laws of physics here?
    Let’s look at this logically. If a man is pursuing you and you are uncomfortable with that attention, you don’t follow him around, you don’t talk him up to anyone within listeining distance, you don’t giggle and blush in his presence and stare at him adoringly. If he kisses you and you don’t want it, you don’t grab his face and lean in for more. I will NEVER call Kristen a slut or trampire. But she liked Rupert, and he her. It’s obvious as day. By my observation, the only ones denying this are the hardcore Robstens. I have the benefit of being a Kristen fan who could care less about Robsten. I’m not invested in Robsten, and while I’m disappointed that she strayed, I’m not mourning crushed fantasies.

    “include her in the creative process” you have that backwards. Rupert was neither signed nor had an option to direct or co write the next Swath. Kristen was optioned in her contract. This is Kristen Stewart. If she says “get me another director” Universal gets her another director. That’s how much money she makes. People who make money call the shots. Movie stars of her caliber have sexual harassment clauses in their contract. Directors don’t screw around with an actress who can claim that clause unless they are damn certain she is ready willing and able.

    “2000 pics were too boring” – You might be right. Either too cold or too hot.

    “Turns her back” – *sigh* Let’s not get into that. You don’t let a man back up against you like that unless you’re interested. So uncomfortable she intertwined her fingers into his? Turned around to hug him? Careessed his hair? She didn’t enjoy the car kissing but decided walked willingly over to him by the fence? C’mon. Also, I saw no papers. She was holding the hem of her tshirt.

    Kristen hardly had the opportunity to met Rupert again because they knew they had been caught within days of the pap’d meeting.

    I’d like to think either R or K would have come to their senses and ended it. I don’t believe either of them were in love. It reads like a classic professor/student infatuation to me. However, as I’ve pointed out previously, HW morals are not middle class morals. It is unfair and unrealistic to expect HW players to live by what the vast majority of them consider outdated, disingenuous, and constricting standards of conduct.

    Hard reality is that Kristen has lived a life rarely in touch with what you and I would consider reality, that directors and actors have affairs all the time, and that Rob and Kristen are not Romeo and Juliet – they’re two young people with all the messy issues of the average 20 something exacerbated greatly by living in la la land.

    I think that if you could force yourself to step back out of the fandom for just a moment, you maybe could see reality.

  • guest

    Kristen has been effusive in praise of all her directors (especially Kris Wietz) but what’s all this “giggling and blushing and gazing adoringly”? Are you claiming you were there? I saw no pics or videos of any such thing, nor did I hear any rumors of such. There’s a pic of her supposedly looking up at him adoringly. All see is Kirsten looking up. She has to look up to see him. He’s six foot five.
    Where did you see her “grab his face and lean in for more?” There’s a pic where he grabs HER face. And lean in? She’s leaning as far away from him as she can without falling out of the car. Her head is backed right up against the window.
    The pics of Kristen walking to the railing holding a sheaf of papers in front of her, in reading position, and then walking back to the car holding the papers, have disappeared from any set I can find on the web at this late date, along with many of the other fifty pics, but millions of people saw them. And it couldn’t possibly have been the hem of her shirt. She was holding it out in front of her, away from her shirt, and it was brightly lit–the same backlighting as the rest of the photos. What was on the papers is, of course, speculation, but it was, completely clearly, a sheaf of letter-sized papers. And look again. He’s hugging her. She’s not hugging him. She’s trying to keep it light, trying not to offend him, but she is avoiding getting kissed again.
    What is this “Kristen’s camp” you think was spreading rumors from the set? Kristen has Ruth, who was back in the U S most of the time with other clients, and she has a stylist who, likewise was in the U S. I presume she has a business manager, too. But what “camp”? Rob has said, (and I’m paraphrasing) People think an actor has a team around him, managing his image, making his decisions, spreading rumors, doing damage control, but it’s not like that. It’s really just you. You’re on your own.
    Other supposed insiders have come here and argued that Kristen had no power to fire a director, it is the director who has the power. But why would Kirsten have wanted him fired, if she didn’t see his flirting as dangerous?
    Kristen may have been optioned, but not, apparently, in a way that would prevent the studio from writing her out of the sequel, if the rumors that Universal was a planning to make it the Huntsman’s story, without her, hold water. (I hope they dn’t) When Kristen started SWATH, she was Bella but, outside of Twlight, she was fresh from a string of money-losing little indies. SWATH was supposed to be the test case, to see whether she had any drawing power, separate from the Twilight franchize. Rupert, was not optioned, apparently, but would certainly have been asked to direct the sequel, if he came up with a good concept and script, having successfully brought SWATH 1 in on time, under budget, to critical aclaim. Kristen did fine as Snow, and came out with her movie star cred confirmed, but the real star of SWATH was the art direction.
    I don’t think it’s fair to assume Kristen invited a sexual relaltionship with Ru because you think movie stars don’t have middle class morals. Kristen was a child actor, with very protective (albeit fiercely tatooed) parents; then, a teenage actor, in an excusive three-year relationship; then a young actress in another long-term exclusive relash. In numbers of partners, she’d be considered inexperienced in Peorea. She was never part of the La La land social scene, and is only peripherally part of it today. Both she and Rob, though they have recently seemed to acknowlege that some networking is necessary, still cling to their tight little circle of childhood friends.

    It’s perfectly plausible that that Kristen might form a close student-mentor-relationship with a man whom she knows is coming on to her, believing it’s harmless because she thinks she keep it at bay. And apparently she did, throughout the filming. Also perfectly pausible she might come to find that she was wrong about being able to handle it. Happens all the time.

  • guest

    Kristen did not confess to cheating, she confessed to a”momentary indiscretion”. The difference is this: Cheating is “to betray sexually” Webster’s dictionary) An indiscretion is simply an unwise or ill-considered action. And as for the “crotch grinding, those were still pics. You thought you saw crocth grinding. Others thought he was pushing him away. You chose your interpretation, according to your personality.

  • guest

    Tabloid nonsense, it really does make people stupid. Their only interest is in inventing controversy where none exists to make a buck.

  • http://www.facebook.com/coffy.milky Coffy Milky

    shut up all for u! idiot!! u dont know who is KS & RP & not even u are their family members, relatives & friends …so do i..i just know them coz they are good actor/actress. They are human being too! got eyes, ears, mouth, heart, brain & feelings. They never talk bad & nasty words about u all. Just leave them alone! asshole!

    KS & RB : if u read this my advise BE URSELF & u can DO whatever u want to do. Dont care much what people says & those people talk bad about both of u is stupid human ever! u need to move on & remember your future life is all in GOD hands – GBU both!

  • guest

    The nudity in some of Libby’s videos was MEANT to bother people–meant to be dark and disturbing. Also, some of the near-nudity, especially the one with the guns in the panties. But Libby didn’t script those videos, did she? Wasn’t she just taking directions? Of course, she agreed to do them.

  • tt

    Good for you, AQUARIUS64!!!!! Well said and please know that many, many of us are in total agreement with you regardless of what a FEW of these little groupies on this site TRY to control.

  • tt

    Nope – your pitiful ATTEMPT of an argument has lost all credibility…along th the rest of your sillycronies, ha ha ha ha

  • tt

    KRISTEN STEWART IS NOW THE ETERNAL SLUT!

  • andreana

    GGF !!!!!!!

  • tt is an idiot

    more like you are now the eternal idiot which has been saved for posterity.

  • nena

    why do you think this?

  • http://twilightirruption.blogspot.com/ abbeysbooks

    Cool nena.

  • tt

    Absolutely….everyone has and continues to notice this so you’re right on the mark with this one!

  • guest

    Wow – how much trashier can Kristen Stewart get? Everyone is talking about her looking like trash in her black bra underneath that see through white shirt at the variety awards event this week. What a mess this girl is!

  • guest

    How would you know they were given a heads up by the 20th? You are in Kristen’s confidence? Given your clear pro-Liberty biases, it hardly seems likely. Twilighter, who seems to have made reseaching this his life’s work, says, as did every other source I’ve read, that she was not allerted until the 24th. Of course, that raises the question; are there any sources, except the principals themselves?

  • guest

    The message behind the green is that the fashion industry had decreed green to be the COLOR this season, and Rob went along with it. Either ballsey, or sheeply, depending on your point of view.

  • guest

    I thought the dress was beautiful and erotic and, yes, a metaphorical finger, but I question the wisdom of reinforcing the shameless hussy image. I think her finger-giving has always done her more harm than good, however it may have relieved her feelings.

  • guest

    She does have a face that’s a makeup artist’s dream, but she often looks beautiful in spite of, not because of what the makeup artst has done. She keeps running afoul of a makeup artist who doesn’t understand that you don”t draw a black line all the way around the eye unless you want to create an evil look. For the same reason, you do not extend the eyeliner and shadow way out beyond the outside side of the eye. These make the eye look long and narrow, and a narrow eye looks mean. It expresses emotions like suspicion, anger, resentment. I really think the reason she has got an undeserved reputation for looking sullen is mean eye makeup.

    Eyeliner around the inner corner of the eye also draws the eyes closer together. A woman’s eyes should be made up to look father apart than they are (unless she is Ashley Green.) Widely spaced eyes look feminine and youthful because women”s and children’s eyes are proportionately farther apart than men’s eyes. Close-together eyes look masculine and old.

    Eyeliner is meant to mimic the shadow line cast by long, thick lashes, and it doesn’t look right around the inner corner of the eye because eyelashes don’t grow there. Eyelashes get shorter and thinner as they approach the inner corner, and peter out before they get there, and so should the eyeliner. Who does have a black line that goes all the way around the inner corner of the eye? Lions. Tigers. Polar bears. So it’s the look of the predator–a look evolution has taught us to fear.

  • guest

    That shirt she wore to the Variety awards is either the most unflattering fit I’ve ever seen or the girl is pregnant. I’m serious! Her waist looks a yard wide! And, while the outfit was a clown job, the face was just simply lovely. Perfect eye makeup–so subtle it was barely there. A no-lipstick look that just points up what a pretty mouth she has. Suck it up, haters. No matter how godawful the outfit, Kristen is a beautiful girl, and there aint nothin you can do about it.

  • jen

    You could say my bias is with Liberty and Rob, yes. They are the wronged parties here and I am not in the habit of blaming the victim. That said, I have been a fan of Kristen’s for many years and I continue to be so. I appreciate that she is unsettled and unformed, her blemishes are plain as day. Because I see and acknowledge those blemishes, and because you can not or will not, you dismiss me as a hater. ok. But I like her and I’m as interested as ever in how she will evolve and if she will prosper within the deadly environment of HW.

  • tt

    Kscrew looked like something was wrong with her left eye at the variety awards, like it was sunken in at the top and really swollen towards the bottom….unless Robe or somebody punched her. Makeup artist should have covered her eye better!

  • tt

    You’re telling me. You’re right when you say Kslut’s “OUTFIT WAS A CLOWN JOB!”

  • guest

    Robert Pattinson is still struggling with trusting Kscrew.

  • jen

    who wouldn’t? Is it reasonable to expect anything else from someone recently cheated on?

  • guest

    You and who? You have a team of two, ten, twenty, what—looking over your shoulder as you type? Speak for your mean, small-minded self.

  • guest

    Your bias is not pro Rob, as you continue to trash the girl he obviously loves.

  • No guest of ours

    I see the screwballs are out again tonight, always arriving in packs like the dogs that they are. Or is it that one lonely person in the night on a one person mission to sell bs that no one is believing using multiple monikers. Yes, more likely. So go away and take the rest of your names with you.

  • guest

    You see, this is why it’s important to keep puching back against the haters. How could a newbe, or even a knowlegeable fan, have known that apsara was gving out false informaton? Thanks, nena.

  • guest

    they usually suggest meds if you talk to yourself. In your case, not so much. Even meds can’t cure a broken record hag.

  • guest

    The only makeup artist her is you and you aren’t much of an artist.

  • guest

    Your all alone tt. And now obviously an eternal idiot as well.

  • guest

    evidence is that this whole cheating thing was faked

  • nena

    But I don’t think it helps! No one listens, they have blinders on and don’t want to change! Just like the media they believe what ever fits their story! I find it interesting that given info they don’t care to read it, not like they have to find it just read it! And why is it that they resort to name calling and swearing, say you are in denial if youbelieve something they won’t? I don’t get when you show them proof they refuse to even LOOK at it!!! If it were the other way around I would at least look at the info and then decide if I believed it or not !

  • guest

    IT HAS BEEN NINE DAYS SINCE THE TABS HAVE PUBLISHED ANYTHING DEBUNCABLE! This is amazing! Can it be tha , with Twilight over, Rob and Kristen have become private citizens once more?

  • guest

    If you’re in withdrawal, google Kristen Stewart Variety Awards or Academy of Motion Picture Governor’s awards.
    For the Variety Awards, Kristen went dorkey–plaid pegleg men’s pants (fifties thriftshop?) men’s shoes, and white T shirt (dollar store bargain?) badly sewn, baggy fit, black bra showing. But the face, above the clown suit, was irrepressibly lovely. Perfect eye makeup, so subtle it was almost undetectable, just looked like beautiful eyes. The whole face, in fact, so artful it looked barefaced, but beautiful. Kristen rocks the no-lipstick look. It lets you see the delicate modeling of her mouth.
    For the Academy of Motion Picture Awards, more obvious makeup, but still low-keyed and lovely–above a demure black and white lace blouse and black librarian skirt.

  • Starbuck

    I don’t know if I’ve ever seen any man as universally adored at Brad Pitt in his prime. George Clooney too, even now. You can’t find a woman anywhere that doesn’t swoon! I will say again, I always agree with everything you say. You have a way of helping me think outside of the Robsten box. I dare to call myself a reformed Robsten. Everything about this whole affair (pun intended) and the story that is being spinned about a) her not being a willing participant and b) it being momentary, goes against all logic. What actually happened and how it would have played out had there not been a movie to promote in a matter of months will remain so. It will be intersting to observe how it affects everyone long-term. But I stay firm in that I never believe what a publicist says, especially in Hollywood. Thanks for your perspective, Jen.

  • Starbuck

    I’m interested in seeing this evolve as well. Longer commented posted to you below.

  • Rob’s still Single

    Except they didn’t DO any joint interviews at the LA premiere or any other premiere that I can remember. They barely posed together at all, just after the Summit execs made them, then Rob took off and did all his own interviews on his own.

    And they haven’t been seen together since Summit flew them back to LA from NY. Rob’s been seen out at the CM with MIA and his friends, and then he’s been at events with people like Richard Gere, also solo. Looks like he’s single, the same as always. He tolerated her while they had to do promo and now that’s over.

  • Gosia

    Nena, I’m with You with all You’re saying. You’re so brave and organized. Thank you for that. You and Abbeysbooks.
    I don’t know, how long will it live?
    Fake story for money. I’m just for a moment, be back soon.
    Proud of you both.

  • nena

    Hi, how are you? Thanks for your nice words. I’m just a mom of kids close to her age and can not stand to see someone being treated this way. Being accused of something alot of us feel she did not do!!

  • Gosia

    Yeh…, my daughter a year elders Robert.
    Worry about her as she’s (or seems to be) still alone.
    Smart and independent but… is she happy?

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