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Robert Pattinson & Kristen Stewart Tale “Tortures” Logic

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Since happiness and good cheer are boring, Us Weekly creates a bizarre alternate reality where Kristen Stewart “tortures” Robert Pattinson.

Confused?

See, Robsten’s “love may be discreet, but their fights sure aren’t,” explains the magazine that once asked its readers to believe that Jennifer Aniston uses Architectural Digest as a weapon against ex-husband Brad Pitt.

Apparently, Stewart and Pattinson “had a spat on set” during Eclipse reshoots, sniping at each other “in full view of cast and crew.”

Uh-huh. Would this be the same “fight” about Pattinson being “late”? The one that never happened?

It’s all part of what the mag describes as a “stormy romance” in which Stewart “snaps” at Pattinson in public and, says a “source,” refuses to see them as “boyfriend and girlfriend.”

Of course, Us Weekly has no way of demonstrating what it claims.

So instead, it illustrates its “torture” theory by mentioning how Stewart and Pattinson arrived at the recent Oprah taping separately and then walked through the airport separately before “ducking into the private American Airlines Admirals Club together.”

Um, kinda sounds like two high-profile people who value their privacy.

Where do we sign up for this “torture”?

Weirdly, the tab seems to be arguing that Kristen Stewart is barely invested in a relationship… she’s desperately trying to hide.

And Kristen Stewart is desperately trying to hide a relationship, how? By feuding loudly in public?

How exactly does Stewart’s alleged “obsession with cloak-and-dagger secrecy,” as the mag calls it, reconcile with her penchant for public brawls?

It doesn’t.

None of this makes sense.

Gossip Cop hopes Us Weekly finds more actual news to report next week.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sarah-Boots/1458255344 Sarah Boots

    Stewart can be very curt with Pattinson in public. Its clear who rules the roost in the relationship. I wish Pattinson wasnt such a whipping boy for her.

  • miya

    Feels like Gossip Cop are hand in hand with Kristen Stewart’s management. Me thinks you doth protest too much. She always seem very rude to Rob Pattinson and I dont understand why he puts up with it. Find someone with some charm Rob. Its a long time to be stuck with such a misery guts.

  • kate

    Well it does often look like Rob is more into Kristen than she is into him. You’d have to be a fool not to see it. Gotta admit I didn’t like how she rolled her eyes at him when he was talking backstage Oprah. I guess you don’t really know what goes on off-camera in a relationship but I’ve often gotten the feeling that sometimes Kristen is irritated by Rob. I definitely think if it was up to Rob, he would announce to the world they were together but I think hes holding back for her.

  • marcia

    kate, I actually agree with you. Whats sad is that I think Rob is head over heels for Kristen and but I don’t Kristen is as crazy for him. I do get that she wants to keep her relationship to herself but sometimes I wonder if the reason she really wants to hide her relationship is because she is ashamed of it? Maybe she sees Rob as her dirty little secret?

  • sungoddess28

    I think Kristen wants different things than Rob. She seems to be happy having fun and traveling with him, but when he mentions private things of a future with kids or something she clams up. They are probably just at different points. Rob will probably take a break and work on music while Kristen starts filming in August. Maybe the age difference contributes. She just turned 20. He’s 24. None of us know. I do agree that sometimes she looks annoyed with him. I wouldn’t be surprised if they broke up. It probably wouldn’t affect Kristen that much but I think Rob would be devastated.

  • janna

    You guys commenting must not think very much of Rob Pattinson to think he would be okay with being secret against his wishes, or being a whipping boy. Oh I’m sorry, just Kristen haters here again spreading lies at every site you can. #sarcasm# Kristen really isn’t into this relationship flying to europe to spend time with pattinson for new years and her bday #sarcasm#

  • InsertNameHere

    Maybe, and this is just a long-shot here, #NotReally, maybe they aren’t really a couple.

    Maybe it’s all a PR thing. #MostLikely

    What if the stress of “being a professional liar” <— #WhatSheSaid is taking it's toll?

    Raise your hand if you don't mind putting fantasy ahead of sanity. #ThinkAboutIt

    SMALL PRINT: If you or anyone in your family is affiliated with Summit Entertainment, you are disqualified from voting on this topic. However, if you are one of the two people mentioned in this topic #YouKnowWhoIMean, you are allowed a vote. Please don't post as yourselves, as no one will take you seriously. #duh ..Anyone claiming the identity of the aforementioned "duo" will be stoned on site. #BeenCollectingTheStonesThrownAtMe #DeadlyArsenal

    SMALLER PRINT: If you are offended by anything in this post, please seek a life immediately. Treatment is available.

  • InsertNameHere

    I’d like to clarify a word in my above post #YouNeedToKnow

    When I use the word “sanity”, I’m referring to the sanity of Kristen and/or Robert. You guys have your sanity in your hands regarding this topic. Please concentrate on yours instead of depriving them of theirs. I mean you seem to adore them so much. Let’s focus on letting THEM find peace with or without each other. Maybe they’d feel less pressure to be or not to be <– #TogetherOrNotTogether

    Point made. If you object, I recommend a licensed therapist, as such denial is beyond my "job" description.

    PEACE AND SANITY TO ALL INVOLVED IN THIS INSANITY

  • dancing

    Actually GossipCop, your full of bs. Many have seen on tv how Kristen can be quite nasty towards Rob. She’s impatient, moody and downright rude. Saw it on the Jay Leno show how she had absolutely no patience for him. Also many times before and thereafter. Why doesn’t she just avoid him and stay away from him if she’s so miserable being around him. Life is about tolerance and compromise, when she gets older she will figure this out.

    About her obsession with the paparazzi, and being all secret and shitt, that’s kindergarten behavior, grow the eff up. Your 20, act like it. Live your life, who gives a damn what a photographer will “think”. Seriously.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kim-Dawson/749160745 Kim Dawson

    I like that the one person posting negative comments was able to spread it out over 5 -10 minutes time lapses. Oh. So. Clever. You. Are.

    Look, long story short, they seem like a really great couple who don’t want to invite crazy fans into their relationship. It’s not rocket science. Stop trying to over-engineer their situation just to suit your own agenda.

  • crmomof2

    The truth is that we will never know what is really going in their relationship until they wish to tell us…and they don’t have to. To be very frank Kristen is only 20 and Rob 24, it’s totally healthy, if they are in a relationship, for them to take their time and allow their relationship to develop in private.

    However, I have the weekly run down of the way the tabloids talk about their relationship.
    Sunday: Kristen is looking at real estate…because she and Rob are setting up house…see the smiles.
    Monday: Kristen is upset because Rob backs out of living together…because he’s not ready.
    Tuesday: Rob is gay
    Wednesday: Rob is not gay …but Kristen is an nasty person that tortures Rob
    Thursday: Kristen is gay
    Friday: No one is gay …but they are not a couple they just have a professional relationship…Oh Wait…Kristen is with Taylor…
    Saturday: Rob and Kristen are spotted making out somewhere…(no pictures) but all is well in Robstenland.
    Sunday: Kristen is Pregnant…. She is not pregnant on Monday. The merry go round begins again.
    It’s really crazy ….

    Quite frankly, with the way Rob is idolized lately, it might be a good thing that she sees him as a regular guy…it keeps him grounded. He doesn’t seem that much of a push over to me…and not humble either…he seems like a smart guy that knows exactly what he is doing…She had a career already before Twilight…his career really took hold with the franchise.

    He also has the habit of making remarks as a joke that as soon as they are out of his mouth hit the entire internet and Kristen knows that. Remember the “I hate vaginas” remark? On Oprah Kristen was very nice to him…she was taken aback with the “Kristen’s pregnant” remark . As soon as he said it, in jest, that Kristen was pregnant … the tabloids ran with it. I saw the Jay Leno interview with Kristen…Rob wasn’t there it was a great interview. On Jimmy Kimmel she teased him because was talking about the groin injury…which he keeps reminding her about …because he got when he picked her up during a scene.

    About Kristen’s impatience with the paparazzi, don’t criticize until your in their shoes…I have seen them where they are relentless, insulting, down right dangerous and she is not the only celebrity who has expressed his or her discomfort with them. Even celebrities that want publicity…are reticent about allowing their private life to be exposed.

    Both actors are talented and I think that they do not need to have their every move, pose or statement scrutinized to the nth degree. If they are couple, I wish them well.

  • Hard Hearted Hannah

    Kristen is mean with Rob… some times, but I don’t doubt that she want him

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Malorie-Weller/1192252207 Malorie Weller

    To crmomof2 well put on the whole Kristen and Rob!!! I couldnt agree more no one knows what their relationship is between Rob and Kristen, let alone anyone elses but your own… Kristen being 20 and Rob being 24 makes no difference on age wise , as I with my significiant other is only 3yrs apart, and we find ourselves that on we can handle anything that comes our way, together or separate. We are all individuals and how we take things that are said, or given and even written about is how you deal with it after. Kristen to me is my isperation as I see alot of myself in her, as shy person, keeping things personal as much as possible, sticking with the same clothes over and over, etc.. and I have learned to take things that are bad to change myself for the better. So THANKS Kristen for inspiring me , so cant wait to see you in more movies. As for Rob~ if Kristen is the one for you , then hang on to Kristen, as for finding true love or your soul mate its tough out there…. =)

  • EmmaJones

    Agree with crmomof2. Rob produces gossips, I believe that he does is unintentionally. His joke” Kristen is pregnant” was just a bit short of misogynic insult. What else make a woman, at any age, MORE uncomfortable? Nothing . The joke should be on him, not on his co-worker. Somehow the pregnancy rumors elevate man’s ego but reflect negatively on a woman. What is he saying? That he is having it off with her? Does he showcases his reproductive capacity ? Showing off a bit maybe, that everything is O.K. down there in the general plumbing department. Seems so. Did not he think that Queen O. would ask the question? He certainly did not cooperate with Kristen about the answer . She snapped right back on him. And of course that catapulted them directly into the gossip mag’s front pages.
    Well, I tell you what I think. If it is true that they are dating – maybe his joke is forgiven. IF it is only professional relationship- the joke is CRUEL. He suggests that she is intimately linked to him, or give such an impression to the world. Robert indirectly is sabotaging her private life. She should be going out and make herself available to meet new people. While Robert is joking poor Kirsten spends her weekends alone with her cat. LOL.
    Robert did not show his gentleman’s side in this interview. Maybe next time he will do better. Silence is golden and a very rare art.
    I tend to believe that they are not couple. He would not made such a cruel comment to a person he cares deeply for. Even a regular friend deserves better. Robert is very immature. It is O. K. with me.
    My BF would never joke on my expense.
    Speaking of “ tortures” – Rob is not a saint.
    (But I like them anyway as people)

    I admire Kristen of course, .FOR HER GENERAL AVERSION TO BULLSHIT.

  • alynn

    I’m reticent to chime in because, well I respect them and the scrutiny is just so shameful. They inspire and entertain me to the point that my life is improved. I wish them all the happiness imaginable in return no matter what their relationship is or ever will be.

    That said, a few points you may or may not know:
    1.) Public and private lives are different. Very different. What appears on the surface and in front of an audience is not what happens behind closed doors. Geez, I get nervous at job interviews and in front of regular cameras sometimes. I feel cheesy with even innocent PDA sometimes too and that’s when no one else is interested or watching.

    2.) She’s 20 and he is 24 and they are exposed to unprecedented craziness in a short time and a virtually instantaneous news world. They protect each other. They value, respect, are attracted to and love each other. They’ve said this. It’s also how they behave. Crikey, I made so many mistakes at their age – it’s shocking – it kind of freaks me out how put together they are. I wish they were allowed to make mistakes too… Mistakes are fun and important in your 20s.

    3.) They value normalcy and privacy in their lives with friends and family. They don’t receive privacy and normalcy – they have to plan and fight for it. I’m sure that translates to romantic relationships too. Rob said his friends and family are roughly the same and it helps him to get through all the changes.

    4.) Kristen quotes on relationship privacy:
    - “I’m trying to keep something.”
    - “But, it’s really important to own what you own and keep it to yourself.”
    - “Being open and private are two really different things. You can still be completely open about what you love to do and stay private. You just have to pick and choose and own what you want to own.”
    - I’m paraphrasing this one from my memory of an interview: “As soon as something is consumed (by an audience), it changes (in meaning) and becomes something else (less authentic).”
    - “I would never cheapen my relationships by talking about them. People say, ‘Just say who you’re dating. Then people will stop being so ravenous about it.’ It’s like, No they won’t! They’ll ask for specifics.”

    5.) Kristen quotes on Rob:
    - “I love Rob because he always wants to be the best.”
    - “He’s everything I know he is. I know he can do any film.”
    - “He’s a great singer. Heartbreaking.”
    - “Rob is sexy”
    - “Rob is incredibly funny.”
    - “Rob is a very bad liar, he just can’t do it.”

    6.) Kristen’s behavior toward Rob:
    - She stops him and compliments him when he criticizes himself or becomes too self-deprecating.
    - She went all the way to NY to attend his Remember Me premiere during her own film promotions. He wasn’t at hers and she probably understood why. They can’t even sit together at the BAFTAS when Kristen was nominated (and won), and Rob was presenting. That’s lame. I like having my peeps near at momentous occasions that aren’t even televised.
    - She doesn’t dish crud about him publicly no matter what occurs privately. We all know the ups and downs of relationships… and, the lifestyles that successful creative people are surrounded by. We all have our own little secrets too – maybe you forget that?
    - She doesn’t fake her feelings. She doesn’t have any ulterior motive for being with him beyond wanting to and enjoying him in her life. She doesn’t need or want his money (she has more) and certainly doesn’t need the exposure. The rest of you are suspect – giggle!
    - She went all the way to Budapest to accompany him on her birthday while he was filming – even with a fairly uncomfortable jet-lag turnaround right before another flight together to London. Then she jetted home to CA. Phew. Happy Birthday. I’d rather go to a spa and be pampered, personally – at least let the guy pick me up.
    - She supports his projects beyond Twilight. She had Bel Ami loaded on her Kindle. She used her Runaways interview to compliment his movie Remember Me. She introduces him professionally and socially to others. She befriended him, and helped him navigate when few knew him and he was “new in town.”
    - Her influence on his life has been positive. Just look at him. She must be part of some equation that works well because he beams when he’s around her. Don’t diss the happy Rob. Don’t diss the ascendancy professionally either.
    - They have similar goals, values, interests personally. The differences they have are complimentary.
    - She challenges him and he aspires to develop. Kristen says, “Rob always wants to be the best.” Rob says, “Kristen sets the bar high,” and, “Kristen is my insurance policy for authenticity.”
    - She was much more demonstrative and affectionate in public before people scrutinized and picked apart her every little gesture. She’s on guard to protect herself from articles just like this.
    - Kristen says, “Large groups of girls scare the (crap) out of me.” In proximity to Robert that is a likelihood, but she faces it many days out of the year – groups in the hundreds and thousands – sometimes wearing high heels. Come on, we all know how mean girls can be sometimes – don’t we? I’ve suffered it in little ways and it made me cry. Imagine her world. It hurts my feelings when even one girl says something mean about my outfit at a party…
    - She chooses to keep their relationship real and private. She pays for that. Being public about it would help her and cost him a split fan-base or a believability issue with other co-stars in romantic roles. She knows this and still stays quiet – though, I do get the impression he would be open (and has been unintentionally in the past). She’s said, “they (women) covet Rob.” She knows this – she endures a lot of hounding, stress and scrutiny to stand up for her relationship with him and to protect the audience’s feelings, his popularity and their crossover careers and to protect the relationship from exploitation. “The harder road,” she said, “but I would follow my heart.” It’s not as if she lacks romantic options…

    7.) Co-stars say:
    - “she gets giddy and excited and likes to have fun. She’s as much a giggly little girl as the rest of us.
    A lot of people don’t see her like that because i don’t think she lets her guard down in front of people”
    - “he’s really awkward and uncoordinated, sometimes he’ll just ramble and keep talking and say things he doesn’t understand. It’s humorous, but he’s a genuinely a nice guy.”

    8.) It doesn’t matter what they say or do anyway – you’ll believe what you believe or what’s comfortable for you. A thousand tabloids, sites and articles will take it out of context, tweet it, twist it, break them up, reconcile them, impregnate them, engage them, bully them, marry them, divorce them, gossip, manipulate photos, abduct them by aliens, show them happy, attack their interests, accuse them of PR ploys, go for the money shot, disrupt movie sets, ask them to sell each other out, ask them for favors or ask them to pay for silence, say they are cheating, attack their co-stars/friends/family/directors/exes/pets/hobbies/clothes/hair, ridicule, fawn, expect them to carry the standard for love worldwide – no pressure, and exploit them within the hour they say or do it anyway. They’ll do anything except SHUT UP and be supportive.

    Stewart and Pattinson won’t be mean or whine in return. They turn inward and shy away from the scrutiny. So yeah, sometimes the pressure doesn’t induce a faux flirtatious smile on Stewart… Whatever. Even Rob said, “I’m better at faking than she is,” and joked on the radio, “I just like to make her life as difficult as possible.” It’s easy to joke when girls don’t threaten to, “cut you,” daily on comment boards and call you nasty names on red carpets while they wait for fantasy Rob. Kristen appears not to be the type to tell an audience that sort of thing or feed that nasty energy, but it may explain the perception vs. reality to you a little? After all, you weren’t the one that security had to lift up and carry out of a screaming crowd in Brazil. You’re not the one being threatened, photographed, scrutinized, criticized, yelled at and gossiped about everyday either. You’d have to be tough as nails with a heart of gold to endure it like she does. What’s their crime exactly? They starred in a phenomenally popular movie franchise and also happen to love each other? Why are they being held to such an impossible standard that changes every hour? Obama’s life looks like cake suddenly… Yikes. Kristen Stewart smiles more than Obama and smiles more than a LOT of other people we are nicer toward as a public… people we’re nicer to who’ve actually done horrible things. We’re nicer to Kissinger than we are to Stewart. Somebody explain that to me – I think I just popped a vein in my head.

    Relationships are hard enough even in a vacuum.

    Just remember they are human beings. Words have weight and meaning. Words can elevate and celebrate or decimate and cause pain. Pattinson and Stewart (more so) are careful and caring with their words. They do a lot of things for other people and causes. And, they’ve never even met you.

    Thank you Robert and Kristen. I greatly appreciate everything. I’m celebrating you both. Take what you need and laugh at the rest. Best wishes to you and yours!

  • lalaith466

    alynn, I agree with your every word :-) you’re great

  • EmmaJones

    To alynn: simply thank you for your post.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandra-Macias/100000662880877 Sandra Macias

    I don’t think Kristen is rude to Rob. She will joke with him like he does with her. And I don’t think rob was being rude for saying Kristen’s pregnant It was a joke. and I am sure he said it because there is always gossip that he is pregnant and also that she is pregnant.He was not being mean to her. They are playful with each other and that doesn’t mean they are rude I am sure they have that kind of relationship where they understand each other and know when they are joking with each other. and alynn I also agree what you said. I Love Kristen and Rob because of their personality.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Lopez/100000846335199 Linda Lopez

    Robert and Kristen have been under a microscope since this Twilight phenomenon has hit the movie screens. Whether they are a couple or not and I do believe they are a couple it is their business. However, when they are on a public forum like the Oprah Winfrey show, I do believe we have the right to comment on what we view on those shows. As for the comment that Kristen is pregnant, it may have seemed a joke but I viewed it in poor taste. Oprah stated before she asked Robert, she would not ask Kristen because she was shy, if they were in a relationship, however the first words out of his mouth was Kristen is pregnant. If he had said he was pregnant as he has reported that an Australian gossip magazine stated that would have been funny. The look on poor Kristen’s face was very sad because now she ends up with the question landing back into her court and having to stammer through an explanation. No wonder she moved next to Dakota Fanning, I would have to after that thoughtless statement. He needs to man up and start thinking before he speaks. Many may find it cute, but eventually it will turn against him. They are both shy people and because they are shy they say, look, or do things that the public and media glom onto. I hope all this chaos around them dies down so they can eventually have a bit of normalcy in their lives. Both of them could really learn a thing or two from Taylor Lautner who seems to handle himself well in front of the camera. He could give them some pointers to still be themselves and avoid sabotaging each other on their interviews.

  • KateWinterman

    Some of you people are well intentioned but very disturbed,

  • alynn

    Some of you are judgmental and really sad considering you like to goad fans, diagnose them without a license because they don’t agree with you; while, wasting your energy on comment threads over people and topics you claim disinterest in. Weird that.

    It’s been my personal belief that any sentence that contains “you people” and/or “you always” is a lazy waste of air, not worth retinal transmission or carpal strength – with the sole exception of it’s providing a character sketch of the individual who communicates it. Sourly. Unfavorably.

    Go pull a cat’s tail. It’ll reward you more directly.

  • EmmaJones

    To alynn:
    I belive that the”very disturbed” comment was for me. Well, maybe she is right lol

  • KateWinterman

    Alynn, you are not a fan. You are obsessed. There is a difference. I am a fan of Hugh Laurie. I know very little about his personal life and I sure as heck don’t dissect his behaviors and words. Robert and Kristen have never admitted to a romantic relationship. This craze has been manufactured by the fans, by gossip sites and by PR spin. Now I have no trouble believing that it is possible that they have dated, given their circumstances, but I respect them enough to not insist that they are part of something that they won’t even admit to.

    That’s where the disconnect lies. People claim to be fans but they don’t accept the actors at their word. They make photo manips, spread rumors, and support gossip sites like Ted C. even though they have been wrong again and again. This is the fiending that Kristen referenced. It’s not the supposed “haters” that bother Kristen – it’s the ones who have gone overboard with their obsession, causing her to have to watch her facial expressions, her body language and her words. These are the “fans” who flood the inboxes of reporters with threats, who spew profanity and vile accusations at those who disagree with them, and who are creating the demand for the money shot of their PDA, causing papz to stalk them.

    The skeptics aren’t the haters here. We’re the reasonable part of the fandom. And yet some of us are losing interest because we can’t seem to post alongside the obsessive hoards with their irrational logic and CAPS LOCK threats. So, not only are the obsessed “fans” disrespecting Robert and Kristen, but they are actually posing a threat to their public image which directly affects ticket sales. I can’t imagine that the objects of your desire are greatful for this kind of attention.

  • InsertNameHere

    @KateWinterman AMEN to that. I couldn’t even begin keep up with half the gossip/stories/media-hype surrounding these two if I wanted to. Yet I’ve occasionally, and unfortunately it seems, wandered onto a comment section or two where rabid ‘Robsten’-shipper obsessed posters have just short of had me tarred and feathered for making my own hypothetical observations. How dare I should have any personal theory that would directly conflict with their own extreme beliefs.

    At this rate, “Robsten” should be recognized as an official RELIGION soon. It has enough blind rabidly-defended faith to warrant such classification.

    At least I understand that my theories are just that and may or may not be fact. However, voicing them in the ‘wrong place’ can be next to deadly. It doesn’t even matter if you present evidence for an opposing belief, it’s automatically disqualified as apparent ‘blasphemy’ if the forum in which you post it is packed full of hardcore Robstenites. They REALLY hate opposing beliefs. You are immediately nailed to a cross.

  • alynn

    @ KateW
    Your characterization goes a bit far and is really presumptuous in relation to me and most others. It appears contentious for contention’s sake and based very little on comments here. Why exactly? I suggest you not read Elle UK this month. People are having fun expressing themselves, exploring, feeling and learning. It seems that people are inspired and it’s predominately safe – vicarious. I’m not saying there aren’t whack jobs in the world, but what’s wrong with being inspired, writing and reading and communicating about it for the rest? When also was the definition of fandom and propriety placed in your hands? That’s a heavy load to bear… with a bucket of cold water in hand… but, I get you are protective of people and their vulnerabilities/sensibilities and of yourself. Cautious it seems – not to be taken advantage of – skeptical you say and I believe you.

    We both seem to agree, and I’m on record about the scrutiny and effect it has on the actor’s self-consciousness. Me no likey that.

    I’m not guilty of anything on your disconnect vs. reasonable bucket list, nor would I care if I were. I don’t have anything to be ashamed of. I don’t like the manips. My point is that I don’t see much crazy here at Gossip Cop to flat out come on coment boards, attempt to shame and name-call people. I think the ticket sales appear sound as well. You seem to be classifying your experiences with others elsewhere or in your mind in my general direction with a broad stroke, and chilling other fans here who are young and enthused, writing their opinions, some in public maybe for the first time (a really good thing). I’ve never called you a hater or professed to be any term or believe anything except actual source-able words and behavior. The whole let’s blame the papz and the fans thing is tired. Most discussions about Pattinson and Stewart devolve into some form of it, but they’ll still snap celebrities despite what anyone’s wishes are pro or con. I have no idea about how that dynamic operates, nor would I want to. I think it’s been around a long while and starts this whole chicken or egg convo that I’m not interested in. It’s not my type of entertainment and never was. I do like the interviews – they are super charming. Of course people are interested. The rest is not the responsibility of commentators here.

    It’s my opinion that “the craze” is a multitude of factors. I’m reticent to lay it at the feet of some conceptualized idea of rabid fandom and calculating PR without proof. That’s just too easy and too general. I think some of it is imagined or hype anyway. The reality appears something very simple:aAn artistic reflection of something that people were really hungry to feel and experience. It caused reactions. Bankable ones. We don;t know for how long. I’d like to focus on the positive aspects of that.

    I don’t desire Pattinson or Stewart. I do admire them.

    @InsertNameHere
    Eww. The religious thing is soooo creepy. I don’t doubt the Elvis-like “is His peanut butter chunky or smooth” tabloid intrusion and worship stuff drives it, but ugh I can barely comment I’m so nauseated right now. No one to my knowledge is publicly attacking you, or putting you in any danger or painting you as a religious figure, nailing you virtually to anything or calling you Judas. Ick. Gross. You’re the one that said it or draws these parallels. What the? I’m proudly eating wafers in the church Stepoffsten. They are adorable public figures, and super entertaining, but come on!

    To you both:
    What I don’t understand is your motivation to go negative and deconstruct in certain forums of support? I mean, why not just ignore it if it causes you discomfort? Why goad or look for negatives? Why discourage people from participation with disrespectful comments? Are you feeling like a standard bearer, a martyr for something, lonely or bored? What are you trying to express about yourself and your views/outlook/mirror on the world?

    I’m having super fun. Other people are deriving what looks like a measure of positive joy. Why knock that?

  • annonymous

    These two are a perfect example of the media taking advantage of their friendship. They make them out to be something the’re not. Why cant everybody see how manipulative and deceitful the tabloids are, and just leave them alone! They’re just friends!

  • alynn

    @anon

    I guess the interest is because it’s exciting, inspiring and a cause for celebration? I’m sorry you are uncomfortable. I truly wish you the best and think you’re deserving of really special people and relationships in your life too.

    From July Elle UK 2010:
    ‘It’s so weird, that you have to be worried about people seeing things. You want to be excited about something, normal people can be excited about their lives, and I am, too, but it’s such a different thing. It comes out as entertainment for other people and that makes me want to throw up.’ She slides her sunglasses, and adds in a small voice, ‘Do you want to pick something to put on? If you look at the pictures on here I’ll kill you.’

    She takes the iPod back, pauses and bites her lip nervously. ‘This is what I wanted to show you on here.’ Kristen hands me her iPod and flashes me a picture. It’s a familiar, deliciously handsome young man with an arm around her and an arm around Jella, her cat. Without saying a word, she quickly shoved the device back into the glove compartment and turns up the volume before I can say anything.

  • http://igossip.com/user/Romantic_Fool/784570 RomanticFool

    Kristen is the first girl that Rob has done steamy scenes with that he was attracted to. She unleashed his carefully controlled emotions and sex drive when Hardwicke had them do sexy scenes (deleted later). He associates his first encounter with lust with her. However, he said that he got over her in summer 2008 once off Twi set. He got to know her. They are friends. ALL the early videos showed a young girl with a crush on him. He was just nice. He said on Twilight set that the only thing holding him here was whether he could be bothered shipping his stuff back to UK.

    I used to think they were secret lovers too until I took time to listen to what he says and watch him. She beams at him not him at her. . If you look deeper and examine his comments…and her friends…it is a different picture. She did not know she was gay until doing Runaways. Her friend said “Kristen is done with boys”. Joan got her into that world. Watch her at Sundance. Watch the exchange between her and Dakota and how Kristen acts backstage. The Sundance thing was a few months ago. Runaways was last summer…so don’t say that she was not in character>>>SHE IS GAY. Rob has made 3 comments that elude to it too “if you ask Kristen, she would say that there is no way we will hook up”, (Seventeen) “I am not more romantic than Kristen, I am just better at faking it” (Harpers), to Seacrest “Kristen and I are not meant to be”….radio interview

    Wake up people…..they pretend to be on/off as it is easier to spread that then the truth….the lead actress is gay and the lead actor is a shy hermit who does not realize how special he is. Rob stated on video in fall 2008 that it was awkward between them as they became obsessed and into character and it took a while to get out of it once the seeing each other daily stopped. They sort of fell while in character. She is not sweet like Bella and he is not confident and suave like Edward. The truth is that they fight often. She wanted to get him but Rob is firmly against dating costars. He said in summer 2009 “Kristen and I were never an item off set” to Vanity Fair Italy. In the meantime, he saw what a foul, tough mouthed, nasty piece of work and how troubled she is. If you read what she says and observe her, she is VERY hard to like. Rob deserves the best. She is bratty and bossy. He is not pushed around by her and gets sick of her belittling him. He is just easy going and as he says “I’m almost incapable of hurting a girl and they always get sick of me and dump me”.

    The pic on the IPOD is just to stir the pot—-she has a pic of a friend and her cat…big deal. His family can’t possibly approve of her. They are genteel and lovely, she is a pot smoking, butch brat who would be nothing if not for Rob. People don’t follow her unless they think she is with Rob. She pretends to be with Rob as it helps her career. She cares for him but these two are as unlikely a duo as Lindsey Lohan and Taylor Lautner or Kid Rock and Taylor Swift. ….
    If everyone would just listen to and watch them….the answers are there. Rob can’t very well say “I like Kristen as a friend and “she is cool” but I could never fall in love with a girl that has been around, implied she had a lesbian affair with Dakota, does not want kids, curses like a sailor, does not believe in her faith, thinks gay marriage is cool even though against the Catholic teachings, is pro Obama even though he is corrupt and bought and paid for by abortion loving Planned Parenthood and much more. Some people who take their beliefs and principles seriously care about these issues. Rob is one of them as he revealed a lot often before he was famous. Kristen is too wild and wrecked for Rob. Rob said he hoped he does not meet his soul mate too early in life as he has a lot of maturing to do. He does not consider her his soul mate. In Madrid he said the nice thing about being Edward is you get to date girls like Kristen and easily beat up guys like Taylor. IN OTHER WORDS IT IS ONLY IN THE MOVIES. He is not the smooth talking eloquent guy you see on shows. He is a silly guy (listen to the commentary on Twilight). Below is the video that shows the real Kristen….also look at the after party videos of her at Sundance and her making out with Nikki in a car and at Vanity Fair photo shoot. .

    Summit has asked Rob and Kristen to play like they were together as the video of her and Nikki and the pot pics came out before Twi premier. Rob knows it is good PR not to have it come out that she is gay and he is a shy and nice guy of faith. You Tube “Robert Pattinson NEW Interview with Twilight New Moon star Edward Cullen ” <Rob talks about his faith and he also talked about not having sexual attraction with Kristen at UK Twi premier as he is celibate. All you people who don't believe what he says but believe gossip are pitiful.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlpOvQzDJwY <Kristen showing her true colors

  • http://igossip.com/user/Romantic_Fool/784570 RomanticFool

    alynn: The craze is because we don’t have royalty in America and so we elevate stars to high levels and discussion. Rob mentioned this very thing at the start of New Moon tour. The other reason whether you all realize it or not is that for the first time in decades, everyone is talking about a movie and lead actor that everyone likes and see is a nice guy who has publicly professed his celibacy and Catholic beliefs which include waiting for the right girl HE SAID. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9pFZ8xnrT4

    Did it occur to any of you that perhaps there is a reason that a movie about love, forgiveness, souls, immortality, fidelity, abstinence, faith, the hereafter and traditional values is #1 in the world when it has no gore, America bashing, drug use, nudity, extreme violence or cursing. Rob and the Twilight Saga have spread an important message and provoked a lot of discussion and interest. .

  • http://igossip.com/user/Romantic_Fool/784570 RomanticFool

    Linda Lopez: In Italy in 2008 on Twi Tour—Kristen proudly announced she was not shy to the reporter. She had a lot of confidence. She was more well spoken as a teen than she was since summer 2009. She changed…something happened. She stammered and could not complete a sentence. My theory is that she was in love and Rob was in like and it shattered her. That is why she gained weight and looked so horrible last summer filming tale end of New Moon and Eclipse.

    She was worried about coming out. She felt insecure and worried and had been told to stop cursing in interviews and being combative to the press. She was wearing butch clothes in Mexico and then was told to dress like a girl for the Europe tour. She said she is not good at lying and pretending. She is pretending to be a refined young lady with class. That is why she in uncomfortable. She is well known for her mouth. New Moon director said she had the worse gutter mouth of the entire cast. The wolf pack said she is tough. Billy Burke said that he is afraid of her. Rob said she is shocking, intimidating and angry. Ashley said she was weird. Nikki even went to the Welcome To The Rileys set with her and dropped everything. She was told to lay low. Watch her at Vanity Fair shoot, Teen Choice, Twilight Premier, on tour, on set….she is not shy. She is just not out and it makes her tongue tied. She is one tough chick make no mistake about it.

  • http://igossip.com/user/Romantic_Fool/784570 RomanticFool

    As far as me being hard on Kristen. I wanted so much to like her since Rob does. However, never has there been such a repulsive, nasty, controversial, bratty, shocking, rude, crude girl star. She has lost her teen fan base and now she lost the 25 – 50 year olds by being a bad role model for the kids who bought the tickets to her movies. Between smoking pot in public and rolling it in Italy at the cafe during New Moon (nobody rolls tobacco any longer), wearing see through clothes in Madrid, giving the finger to press and paps, insulting the fan base, using bad language and sounding like a whining brat in EVERY print interview Nylon, Vanity Fair, Entertainment Weekly August, Harpers etc. ….she has earned her bad reputation. Why does she have few friends? Why does the cast love Rob and never go near Kristen? Rob is a saint to put up with this troubled wild child brad punk. Sorry but it is an accurate description of her.

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    She just compared having the paps take her pic to being raped. What an idiot. Here is what she says about the paps and the fans who take her pic
    http://www.showbizspy.com/article/205478/kristen-stewart-get-a-fcking-life-and-stop-taking-my-picture.html

  • http://igossip.com/user/Romantic_Fool/784570 RomanticFool

    Most people would just like Rob to have some breathing room, not be linked with every costar and to do more interviews. There is something very likable and compelling about him. He supposedly hung out with the crew of Bel Ami rather than going out clubbing or with the cast while filming. They would cook in their little Budapest apartments and play guitar in the courtyard late at night. Rob is what he seems… a well brought up, nice, mannerly, charming, smart, deep, shy, romantic English prep school young man.

    Why isn’t Kristen linked with every male costar she has had? Why all the hype about “the chemistry between them” when he has more with Emilie? (scenes were deleted as the producers thought it was not PG13. Kristen has more chemistry with Taylor. Rob and Kristen are strained as like Kristen told Access Hollywood at the start of New Moon tour “the saddest love story is unrequited love” and I know what it is like to be so sure and then told I was dead wrong” ….she broke off with Michael hoping to get Rob. He was only interested as a friend (that is how they started off) and so she got involved with Joan Jett’s lifestyle and that is why she changed so much.
    Watch her at the cast party at Sundance.

    She has changed. Just recently at Sundance Film Festival she still acted the same mannish way at the after parties and made the odd comments over 9 months after The Runaways finished. She does not have to pretend to be straight or sweet if she is not, but she has an obligation to her young fans to not be crude, spaced out, caught under-age drinking and toking and cursing in every interview from the first one on the Twilight set to quite recently. She does not behave like a star let alone a nice young woman in public. She must be scary in private.

  • Athenea

    Come on! Pattinson was crushing her before he even met her..trolls, haters, Robsessed, if she is “torturing” well, he is such a masochist ’cause i don’t see leaving her.Being annoyed with his attitude is a normal thing for a NON-obsessed intelligent person, l! the boy has a word vomit syndrome, he opens his mouths and OMG! is like SHut the F& Up!!!
    Kristen is not perfect, she never claimed “role modeling” in her resume (like Britney back in the late 90′s or Miley-Ho). Being in your face type of person in a 2 neurons-tanned-100lbs-blond hollywood world requires a real self-esteem and strenght. I always admire Kristen’s maturity and strength, but sometimes the heart-want-what-the-hearts-want, so i can see the word-vomit boy apppeal. They shared a lot of quirky qualities, similar hobbies..and pretty sure that she really likes this boy, because you just can’t endure the megashit that always follows Pattinson (the crazies, the cougars, every freaking woman in the world) is you don’t have a strong freaking feeling. Or the traveling, the special days..yeah, bitchface & word-vomit are happy in their own little bubble

  • http://igossip.com/user/Romantic_Fool/784570 RomanticFool

    http://gaygirl2000.blogspot.com/2009/06/is-kristen-stewart-gay.html All the lesbian sites agree that Summit has been hiding their leading lady being gay and their leading man being a just a nice romantic guy and not a player. The fans adore Rob. Kristen is becoming more and more disliked for her bratty and bad behavior.

    In Australia, Kristen dressed like a guy and refused to sign autographs at first. Then she proceeded to give fingers to the paps.The fans don’t care is she is bi/gay. We do care that this unthinking girl continues to damage Rob’s career and image by letting people think that she is straight and with him. Rob could he ever be serious over such a nasty punky, badly raised, wild, unprofessional and thoughtless girl like Kristen? It is one thing to be a good friend and confident to her. But to perpetuate a lie and aid in the cover up will make Rob lose fans when it all comes out. Kristen should stop hiding behind Rob and just keep her foul mouth shut, stay home or come out. Everyone can see that they are just friends. It is sad, as if Kristen had not been such a nasty punk, she may have been able to get Rob to fall for her. No guy would want such a troubled girl who is hell bent on wrecking her career and his in the process.

  • http://igossip.com/user/Romantic_Fool/784570 RomanticFool

    Athenea: You are a prime example why girls like Kristen need to be marginalized. or we’ll end up with more girls like you thinking you can say what you just did. It is fine if you admire her. Many people don’t. You are incorrect. She became a role model from the first time she did the on the Twilight set interview and dropped the f bomb much to Rob’s shock. She does not have to curse and give the finger in almost every photo and interview. She does not have to go to events if she does not want to sign autographs. She does not have to open her mouth at all if she can’t manage not to stammer and swear. She made millions and the least she can do is her professional and contractual obligations and not make bad pr and trouble. There is no reason to get foul and nasty when someone says something you don’t like. No wonder you like Kristen. You are probably just her type.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlpOvQzDJwY Watch her at the after party in Sundance for the Film Festival celebrating the movie she made last summer. She was not in character. She is like that normally..

    Summit should listen to the traditional fans that made the books successful and put Kristen on lock down and let Rob do what he does best. Be himself-sweet, sincere, funny, articulate, mannerly, appreciative and kind while he promotes Eclipse. If Bel Ami and Water For Elephants is going to be big, let the true star of Twilight shine and put a muzzle on the girl that was obviously raised by wolves.

  • http://igossip.com/user/Romantic_Fool/784570 RomanticFool

    Newsflash: Kristen dropped the f bomb on camera at the Eclipse premier for no reason. Kristen gave Rob the finger when he commented as a joke that his favorite movie was The Runaways. He knows it was garbage. Kristen Stewart is very disliked by main stream America for being such a horrible role model. Whether she wants it or not, she is one. Rob curses but it is never done during interviews or in the presence of young teens. Kristen should be put on lock down. She is unprofessional and unpredictable. Watch her show how she really is when not pretending to be a nice shy girl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX4bEkb-JXw She is nervous because she is afraid of being exposed. She is not shy at all. She has said so over and over. Watch her at Sundance which was filmed nine months after she did the Runaways. That is the real Kristen.

    Rob Pattinson is an amazing, refreshing, talented, endearing, awkward, shy decent guy. He was just asked at Eclipse press conference about the truth about them and he had no answer and said he did not know. The press said something like “isn’t it good for the movie the romance hype” and he smiled. He is not going to sell out so he told the truth to Jenna Bush and said he ” would like to have a date-I’m just putting that out there”. He is sick of the charade too and wants his life back.

    The fact is that if Kristen had behaved like a nice young girl instead of a wild child into drugs and experimentation, if she had waited for her true love…if she had not been raised by very bad parents that allowed her to curse and behave in an offensive and unappreciative manner, if she had not tried to hook Rob while she had a boyfriend, if she had not been caught making out with Nikki, if she was not so revolting —-she may have had a chance with Rob. She blew it. Rob could have anyone he wants. He should not settle for this troubled and vile girl just because he is thrown together with her over and over.

  • http://igossip.com/user/Romantic_Fool/784570 RomanticFool

    Here she gives Rob the finger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzXIll9XXZA WHAT A TWIT

  • http://igossip.com/user/Romantic_Fool/784570 RomanticFool

    Kristen drops the f bomb because she is a classless moron who does not deserve her acclaim or paycheck.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_UtZsR8SAI

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