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Kurt Loder: Michael Jackson Was “Child Molester” (LISTEN)

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While discussing the conviction of Dr. Conrad Murray on Tuesday, Kurt Loder called Michael Jackson a “child molester.”

The comments came during the music journalist and longtime “MTV News” anchor’s interview on KZOZ’s “Jeff and Jeremy in the Morning.”

A day after Murray was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson’s death, Loder said that while the late King of Pop’s troubled life was tragic, “I think he was a child molester, and that sort of tempers any feelings you might have about him… I just don’t think there’s any denying [that].”

He elaborated, “There were all kinds of children involved, there were payments made to their parents… having sleepovers with little boys, and you’re a 40-year-old man? Uh, no, you’re like a child molester!”

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Loder isn’t the first to reference those infamous allegations against Jackson in recent months, but some are saying that the matter has nothing to do with Murray’s case and Jackson’s early death.

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  • Marie88

    Those comments from Loder were just disgusting to me, and not just because I am a fan of Michael Jackson. It’s disgusting because his personal opinion of Michael’s character was NOT what was up for debate. It’s like the saying “beating a dead horse”. Whether he thinks Michael was a child molester is of no concern to anyone, or the situation. What he said wasn’t necessary, didn’t prove anything, and didn’t do any good.
    Regardless of the allegations, rumors, and preconceived notions that surrounded Michael during his life, he still had a family. He has 3 children who are still dealing with this. Come on!

    I don’t care what he thought the man did, or what evidence may have been against him. Michael Jackson lost his life, and the doctor who was involved in his death has been found guilty. That was the topic. The child molester comment wasn’t needed.

  • eRosie

    This is exactly why MJ went along with the bad advice he was given to settle with the accusers parents because of ignorant people like this. Just because someone doesn’t conform to what is considered to be “normal behavior” deemed by society, it does not make you a child molester. There was nothing normal about Michael Jackson. Not his childhood, not his talent, not the level of stardom he achieved, NOTHING! However, just because he was not normal and enjoyed life as HE wanted to people tend to condemn him based upon that.

    I agree that he should not have constantly put himself in situations where someone could lie and use it against him, but he was truly naive. Naive in a sense that he assumed all people were good and could be trusted not to use you. That is what bit him in the but again and again, but as he finally took a stand it was too late. There will never be another to achieve the level of talent as Michael jackson. Through all the information that has come out the one thing that cannot be said about him is that he was not a great Dad.

    He loved his children and did the best he could to protect them. Their lives were full of love because of him, and he wanted to do everything he could to protect them from the harsh “real” world because of what it had done to him. But he loved his fans too and he did the best he could to balance both lives in the end. So, I feel like Kurt Loder is nothing short of another opportunist cashing in on the ability to say negatives things that he had never dared say when MJ was alive. Shame on you.

  • http://twitter.com/FamousZee MissZee

    actually, to some, this would be considered Karma…that this was coming to MJ…and honestly…the child molester comment was needed from Loder because he firmly believes MJ..and he’s not going to let his opinion of a man be clouded by others…he has a right to his opinion, just like you do…don’t like it, don’t comment

  • French Flies

    You’re not “like” a child molester, Mr. Loder. There is nothing “like” a child molester. How presumptive to know what MJ was like in private and then to drag him through the mud after his death.

  • Lisa

    It’s a concern and a validation to the children he molested. I don’t care how many albums he sold or how he finally met his demise, the victims deserve to have a voice. He was a child molester and he doesn’t deserve a “get out of jail free card” because he’s a celebrity. If anyone can still think that MJ didn’t have SEVERE mental problems then you are all blind – you should all be made umps.

  • http://profiles.google.com/shle896 Shane Lear

    Good for Loder for being politically incorrect. Just because Michael Jackson wasn’t convicted of child molestation, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen anymore than O.J.’s acquittal means he isn’t a double murderer.

  • Lisa

    You don’t have the same allegations made against you over and over (spanning DECADES) if there is no truth to it. MJ was a very sick man. There’s no denying that in any way, shape, or form. He was broken and had zero boundaries. He was a drug-seeking, thrill-seeking, sociopath. I believe the children.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Kurt for speaking your mind when everyone else plays along with the false image of “Saint Michael”.

  • Lisa

    No. Shame on you for putting an enormously wealthy, extremely broken, celebrity on a pedestal. Normal or not – touching children is sick and a crime. MJ doesn’t deserve your loyalty. Those children, however, do deserve to be validated and believed. Can you even begin to imagine their hell, solitude, and betrayal?

    MJ could not help but to put himself in those situations. Whether it be inappropriate behavior with children, excessive and unnecessary surgery, or a grossly over consumption of drugs, he was sick and had ZERO boundaries. He could pay off anyone who posed a threat to his sick and perverse needs. We have seen, first hand, how he coerced, manipulated, and bought illicit drugs to an EXTREME. Moving from one sick act to another is classic transference behavior, btw. The only difference in his crimes against children and his awe-inspiring drug addiction is that the greedy doctors supplying the drugs had a choice. The children he hurt did not.

    As for “protecting” his children. He was protecting himself. They will have their own stories to tell when they are older and more mature. They definitely saw and experienced things that they will share in time. Mark my words. MJ was a grown man when he finally shared his abusive childhood. His children will do the same. Any abused child, who is fortunate enough to grow into an adult, will look back on what happened to them with an adult perspective and realize how incredibly manipulated and controlled they were as children.

    You can keep your opinion about him being some extraordinary entertainer. It is after all only an opinion and those are personal things. I can see MJ for what he really is and I can pity him as well. I won’t give him any credit or loyalty as he has earned none from me.

  • Lisa

    Have you been living under a rock? We just got a first-hand look into what MJ was like in his private life. One only has to look at the extremes he went to with surgery & illicit drugs to see for miles and miles into his broken mind.

  • http://twitter.com/NellieO231 NellieO231

    The reason Michael Jackson was acquitted was because it was a sham of a case. The proof was non-existent and the accuser and his family were known to be grifters who used various celebrities for all the goodies & cash they could get. They also accused JC Penney guards of sexual misconduct (they sure do have bad “luck”) and got a $150,000 settlement. They tried to cash in on Jackson and it worked for awhile. He supported the whole family and they enjoyed spending his money. He was about to cut them off and they accused” him. They jury had a hard time not laughing a points throughout the trial.

    The one other time was 1993. In that case the father of a boy that MJ had befriended asked for $$$ for a movie project. MJ said “no” and voila! He’s accused of molesting the kid. Jackson’s record Co.s Insurance Co. paid the family so that Jackson could continue on the tour, making them lots and lots of $$$. It was their decision, not MJ’s. HE wanted to fight it, they wouldn’t let him. The grand jury did look into it but found no evidence. THAT is why it didn’t go to trial. If there HAD been evidence no amount of $$$ could have prevented the case from being brought or the kid from testifying. He would have to testify via subpoena. There was no case because there was NO EVIDENCE.

  • Regina1180

    You don’t pay off someone (actually at least 3 someones) if you’re not guilty.

    Regardless, I don’t think Loder should get flack for his opinion. He was in the music industry and around musicians for a very long time, he probably has first hand knowledge. And even if he doesn’t, who cares?Bthe majority of the world Shares his opinion. Still doesn’t change the fact that MJ made great music.

  • French Flies

    Irrelevant. The surgeries and subsequent dependence on drugs are not connected to child molestation. I may not live under a rock, but I am a voracious reader and a little education goes a long way in connecting dots correctly. I suggest you try my method before insulting someone for disagreeing with you.

  • Anonymous

    I get the fact that he has the right to speak his opinion. And I know why he’s saying that MJ is a child molester and all that stuff. What I don’t get is why… does he even know that MJ really molested those children. Even I know that I don’t know that. So what if MJ hosted a sleepover… that didn’t mean that he molested those kids. The only who could know the real story is those kids who was at his sleepover. I don’t recall any of the kids who was at that sleepover saying MJ molested them or something.

    And for him to be paying off those family… so what maybe he just wanted them to go away. Just like when Kobe payed off the girl who allegedly said that she was raped by him. (Sorry for the off-topic)… but it’s true, does it mean that Kobe raped that girl… possibly, or it’s a possibility that he just wanted her to get away. When someone allegedly say something bad that could ruin someone’s reputation, I know that I would pay them off to leave and never talk about it ever again.

  • Shannon

    I think he was being VERY HONEST.

  • Marie88

    I agree with what you’re saying about karma and everyone having a right to an opinion. It’s not his opinion that I was commenting on as much as it was the timing. There are plenty who believe he’s guilty and people who believe he’s innocent. And we all know that there was something mentally unstable about him. I just think that in the case of Dr. Murray, the comments should have been mostly geared toward the topic

  • Lisa

    How can the unnecessary surgeries and illicit drug abuse, taken to the utmost extremes, NOT be relevant to other deviant behavior? Forget connecting dots, there is a solid line leading right to the character of the person in question. He had no boundaries and enough money to keep his nasty secrets. Education or not, you don’t need to be Dr Drew to see what’s right in front of you.

  • http://twitter.com/dakotaboyd1 elysabeth q

    about time someone brought up his horrid skeletons. He might have paid to keep some silent, but not all thank goodness. Yes he brought a new beat to pop music. Yes he broke new ground with music videos. However he also had a sick thing for children and that throws all else out the window. I have seen him interviewed and from his own lips, he thought there was nothing wrong with young children sleeping in his bed. Sick sick man….No actually he is not a man as real men dont do these things to our youth. He is less than a dog and I hope he rots in hell for his crimes. All he has proven is you are allowed to touch children and get away with it, if you have money. Good on you Kurt Loder.

  • http://twitter.com/dakotaboyd1 elysabeth q

    PS. I wonder how many of you parents would allow your young boys to sleep in a bed with MJ. If your kids went to a sleep over at a friends house and you found out they slept in the fathers bed, would you find this appropriate. I WOULD NOT.

  • French Flies

    Body dysmorphic disorder and prescription drug addiction are not linked to deviant sexual behavior.

    Wow.

  • Anita

    MJ Was not a saint he had flaws like every human being….do those flaws making a child molester???!!! Of course not. He was acquitted and nothing was ever proven. So if you can’t accept that then don’t. People who always thought badly of MJ will do so today, tomorrow and forever but that does not make anyone guilty for charges that were NEVER proven. Love and misss you MJ. For every person that dislikes you 10 more love you!!!

  • Botdarlene

    MTV got popular and rich off Michael Jackson videos and MJ was a shrude business man as well with MTV.

  • Ibiibiindeed

    And you know with certainty he molested children because you were there?

  • 123

    its relevant because many people, especially the kids who were victims, consider it karma that he got what was coming to him because he molested those kids, it puts a damper on the fact that your want to mourn him, but when you remember the bad things he did, im sure those kids who got molested are glad hes dead

  • Moonjeans

    Thank you Kurt Loder it takes a real man to stand up and be accounted for !!! You are greater then mj…

  • Muspromo1

    What a dipshit…like he had personal knowledge of this. what a fucking loser

  • Moonjeans

    Muspromo1 eres un puto como mj

  • susan4MJ

    Show me the proof and you will definitely get my acceptance of what you called the truth (that MJ molested kids). You are just one of those trolls trying to change people’s minds about what you think is the truth. People these days just don’t get swayed easily by you ignorant trolls, we need proof and obviously you can’t produce one. Grow up and get over it. Whatever you say or do, there are millions who love MJ and will defend his legacy, me included.

  • Good grief..

    I do agree that he was a very tortured and troubled person. He was one of the most popular entertainers in the world. All he had was people around him that constantly used him. No one can deny that Michael was a very giving person. He cared about every living thing. He even threw a fit when he thought someone was going to kill an insect and you mean to tell me that a person like this would sexually abuse a CHILD? After the abuse he endured as a child himself? I don’t believe he was perfect. But, I don’t believe he molested any children either. If anything, he was naive when it came to people because I honestly think he wanted to see the good in everyone. I do believe he was naive enough to think it was ok to sleep in a bed with boys. He sincerely meant sleep. in. a. bed. That doesn’t make it right. But, like I said, he was extremely naive. You want to know why there were multiple cases about him “molesting” these children? Because people saw dollar signs. If one person could make money from him that way, then what would stop another from doing so?

    In the end, people are going to believe what they want to believe. I, personally, cannot picture someone like him–possibly one of the most giving entertainers we’ve ever came across–molesting children. However, all I know is that this man is dead right now. He has children of his own who loved him very much. He had children who thought he was the greatest father in the world. He had children who are not the product of abuse. This fact alone should speak volumes about how he treated kids. I will always believe it was all about the money. Even after his death, it was all about the money. All of sudden all of his albums are out again. And then his movie came out. And then let’s not even get into how he has a video game…people just wanted to make money off of him and the sickest thing about all of this is that they’re still trying. In the end, Kurt Loder is entitled to his opinion. However, it was uncalled for. Had this been about the molestation cases, okay, fine, whatever. But, it wasn’t. Therefore, he was being disrespectful.

  • Moonjeans

    Hard to believe Good grief, it not always about the money, its about the truth, but these days people don’t handle the truth very well

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    I find it funny that people who want to accused MJ of being a child abuser never bring in facts or the TRUTH of the evidence that was presented in the case. It is alway some stupid tabloid reading junkie or MJ hater to talk. NO, have no problem with TRUTH, people have problem with the false claims that was put on a person like MJ. And for the record, Kurt Loder has NEVER liked MJ. He loved Madonna and always seem to regret that MJ out did Madonna.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    YOur are right. And the truth is MJ was no child abuser but some haters can NOT HANDLE THAT TRUTH.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    YOu need to leave the crack pipe alone and get out. Kurt Loder is a dumb idoit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    Would you let your child go to Kurt Loder? You will say no. Now, you think Kurt Loder a child abuser? No. ALso, the parents were also there with Jackson because he room was so big and GIRLS sometimes stayed as well. MJ room was like a big living room within itself. I think people uses their own sick thought in wanting to accuse Jackson of child abuse. Children come to my house. I guess that makes all of us child abusers. Give me a break.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    We may find yourself in hell before you find MJ there. MJ DID NOT Molest no child. It does NOT matter what YOU believe, the FACT of the matter MJ was innocent and that was proven to those of us in court and what facts came out.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    Honest? About what? Kurt did NOT know MJ. Kurt never liked MJ so of course he is going to say MJ abused children. Haters do that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    Oh really. MJ INSURANCE PAID it and it was Johnny C who told MJ to settle. People settle all the time and they are innocent. I work in the system so I would know. ALso, MJ did not pay no three people. Also, you do not speak for everyone. The WORLD mourned MJ and it seem the MAJORITY was sad and celebrity his life. Kurt only spoke for himself and few of you idoits. BUT NOT THE WORLD. MOST PEOPLE I KNOW DID NOT BELIEVE THESE LIES. SO the world DOES NOT share his views.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    This is what folks who say MJ is guilty does. They spread lies with no truth. And when you present them with COURT PAPERS of what went on, they want to disregard it. I think it is just a sign of their own sick thoughts.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    What allegations as made over and overspanning decades? Lord, you people are stupid. Many. IN court, alot of the truth came out. Some people ADMITTED IN COURT they LIED on MJ. Where do you fools get your info is beyoud me. YOu say there is no denying anything. DID you know MJ? NO. WHERE YOU THERE in court? No. you are just some fool on this board speading what YOU THINK. I WAS THERE IN THE COURT ROOM. I have the info that many need to pull from the court in order to get IF you really want the truth, but NO, you sit on a board an spread LIES. The only one sick is YOU lisa.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    One more fool. Now you going to compare MJ to OJ (ok my I guess all blacks folks are the same huh). And just because someone is ACCUSED does NOT mean they are guilty either. And if you do not know the FACTS, then you are NOT qualified to compare one case to another.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    Lisa, you sound like a true idoit. WHat the hell does someone having surgeries that YOu think IS UNNECESSARY and someone use meds make a person have no boundaries? If that your logic, we ALL are child abuser to a certain point. You did NOT know MJ; and to act like you did base on tv and what you know about MJ in news make YOU look stupid. ANd you do not need no education to see that right in front of you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    Lisa, please shut up and stop sounding stupid. The things you are talking about does NOT mean you know a person is child molester. I guess the coaches as PENN STATE are drug users who had surgeries. SHut up.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    WOW, this girl is crazy (lisa). Now she knows what MJ children are going to be. Laughable. And SHE NEVER MET MJ and she THINKS she knows all of this?LOL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    Karma, Oh please stop it. I guess everyone in 911 got karma as well. Shut up. MJ died because of doctor. This has nothing to do with Karma. MJ was innocent. and funn you should talk about kids. The DA in his case admitted the sadness of MJ passing. And the assistant DA finally admitted it was a witch hunt. There is NOThing for any chiild to remember about MJ because MJ did NOTHING. Think what YOU want, your thoughts have no say over MJ’s life. And NO child is glad he is dead. If anything, they are sad.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    None of these FOOLS were there NOR were any of these idoits were in the courtroom to hear the evidence. I wish MJ’s case was on tv so that people can see these people were lying. Even the 1993 folks ADMITTED they LIED on the stand and ADMTTED THEY WERE PAID by tabloids to lie.WHy do think many media people started backing off MJ? WHy do you think many in the media are upset over his death and backing him NOW? THINK FOLKS.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    Well, when Kurt is publicly LYING on someone, KUrt is opening up a can of WHIP @$$ to be judge. It is NO secret that KUrt has NEVER liked MJ when MJ broke the barrier on MJ so of course he is going to grab onto anything that degrades MJ. Kurt could get his @$$ sued.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    HOne, Kurt is an idoit who NEVER liked MJ. KUrt is going to feel the heat just like Gene Simmon felt the heat (funny that Gene SImmon said the same thing YET GEne wanted to perform at the MJ tribute but was let go). MJ was an innocent man and I can say that because I was AT HIS TRIAL and I knew a about the 1993 case as well.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    Kurt loder does not know nothing. He is the current Gene Simmons.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    So true. And again, I was at the court and they proved alot of these folks were NOT telling the truth. That is what Kurt is NOT telling you all.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    MJ was acquitted because THE FACTS PROVED it. Even the boy from 1993 testimony HELP MJ. As one reporter said, “she said everything except he did NOT molest my child as if MJ should not be on trial for this”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UND5CKISQSSWO3KIHA3HOZHLLA JOm

    Oh please, KUrt is a MJ hater who hated the fact MJ broke the racial barriar on MTV. Kurt always thought Madonna should be better than MJ. No one said MJ was saint even MJ would tell you that; but KURT is NO mouth truth piece either.

  • http://twitter.com/dakotaboyd1 elysabeth q

    To be honest whether it was Kurt or another man, I would not let my boys stay in their beds. Can you read my mind and see I would accuse him of abuse? Well done. Its not my sick thought that I accuse MJ, its his past record. Have you been living under a rock? I heard from his own lips that their is nothing wrong with young boys sleeping in his bed. Perhaps you think this appropriate behaviour for a grown man. I do not. Good luck with that! Also I see another blind accusation under this comment from you about someone smoking crack as their opinion differs from yours. I wonder just who the dumb idiot is!

  • http://twitter.com/dakotaboyd1 elysabeth q

    Just to support my accusation for my above statment. Its on the 60minutes interview where he admits its OK to sleep in a bed with children. Its on U-Tube. Look it up. However where is your evidence for the above poster being a crack head. Or do you just cast opinions without facts. you dont like what he said so accuse him of crack. Bit hypocritical dont you think.

  • http://twitter.com/dakotaboyd1 elysabeth q

    Just to support my accusation for my above statment. Its on the 60minutes interview where he admits its OK to sleep in a bed with children. Its on U-Tube. Look it up. However where is your evidence for the above poster being a crack head. Or do you just cast opinions without facts. you dont like what he said so accuse him of crack. Bit hypocritical dont you think.

  • http://twitter.com/dakotaboyd1 elysabeth q

    Also what was proven in court was you can pay people of before you have to go to court! Dirty little plastic pervert that he is. I’m so so so so so pleased that he is dead. One less bit of filth on the earth and when he becomes nothing more than dirt, he will be at least useful. I love that DR.

  • pancakes

    You are such a moron.

  • Anonymous

    goddamn good comment and you are absolutely right.

  • Anonymous

    Lisa: very well said indeed.

  • Anonymous

    Lisa is not an idiot. she has the guts to say what she believes and there are a whole hell of a lot of people who agree with her. and, she has the right to air her opinion just like you do even though I think you are wrong.

  • Anonymous

    Hey!!!!! this has nothing to do with racism. leave that word out.

  • Anonymous

    you can love mj for what he was, if thats your style, but you cant wag a finger at someone who saw a different side to him. we all have opinions, just like you do. if lisa is a troll for saying what she thinks then you must be a troll as well. doesnt sound to me like she needs to grow up.

  • Anonymous

    why would mj host a private sleepover with children. did they all sleep in one bed…….does that sound right to you………

  • Leogirl_817

    Are you serious?! Are you serious?!

    His children are old enough to speak out now! If something happened, they would’ve already spoken out. It’s amazing how sure you are about Michael’s kids speaking out. You’re the one who sounds mentally ill and delusional, not Michael.

    Just from everything you said, I can tell you don’t have a mind of your own and never did your own research into the child molestation allegations. Your opinion stems from the brainwashing of the media. They do all the thinking for you. You don’t know how to think for yourself.

    Please ask yourself this: If those children were really molested, do you think the parents would ask for money? Would you ask for money? Money cannot repair the harm a person has caused on you. There’s so much you don’t know about these false allegations.

  • Leogirl_817

    Have YOU been living under a rock? We just got a first-hand account into what MJ was like when we heard the recording of his slurred conversation with Dr. Murray when he was under propofol. All he talked about was helping children. You know, in the state and conciousness he was in at the time, he could’ve said ANYTHING. He could’ve spewed out dirty thoughts he had about little boys, but instead he talked about helping children. What does that tell ya?

    I am majoring in Psychology right now and let me tell you something. Child molesters do not care about the well being of children. Any psychologist with a PhD would tell you that. There have even been psychologists that said that Michael Jackson does not fit the profile of a child molester.

  • Leogirl_817

    Like I said before, drugs nor plastic surgery have anything to do with child molestation. If you were smart, you would know that THE FIRST ALLEGATION LEAD UP TO THE DRUG ABUSE IN THE FIRST PLACE. As for plastic surgeries, that is completely irrelevant. It’s like calling Pamela Anderson a child molester because she’s had tons of plastic surgery done too.

  • Leogirl_817

    Lisa, so you have a degree in psychology?

  • Leogirl_817

    The TWO allegations made against MJ happened ten years apart. If MJ was really a child molester, it would have been less then ten years apart. Child molestors don’t wait 10 years to molest again. You can ask a psychologist and he or she would tell you the same thing.

  • Leogirl_817

    Why aren’t you saying the same thing to Lisa? She’s wagging her finger at us too. Maybe it’s because you support her opinion? It seems like you’re indirectly taking sides here.

  • Leogirl_817

    Nobody is saying Michael was a saint…

  • Leogirl_817

    What?! Madonna doesn’t even have half the talent, creativity, and genius that Michael does. Get outta here…

    Kurt obviously has something personal against MJ, which is very unprofessional.

  • Leogirl_817

    Wow! I’m rolling on the floor laughing right now. MJ never payed off 3 people! Where the heck did you here that lie from? As a matter of fact, he never directly payed off that ONE family. Jackson’s insurance co. paid the family so that Jackson could continue on the tour, making them lots and lots of $$$. It was their decision, not MJ’s. HE wanted to fight it, they wouldn’t let him.

  • Leogirl_817

    According to MJ, they slept in his bed while he (MJ) slept on the floor…

    I take MJ’s word.

  • Leogirl_817

    “I have seen him interviewed and from his own lips, he thought there was nothing wrong with young children sleeping in his bed.”

    Shouldn’t that prove to you that he’s NOT a child molester? A child molester would never reveal something like that to begin with. Also, the fact that he thought there was nothing wrong with sharing his bed proves that he had the mind of a child. This is how children think. Children don’t think about sex when sharing there bed with someone.

  • Leogirl_817

    Yes, MJ had a 2-story bedroom. It was like an apartment within a house.

  • Leogirl_817

    Oh really? Kurt is greater than MJ? This is the first i’m hearing about this guy…

  • Leogirl_817

    Yeah, because Kurt don’t know ish.

  • Leogirl_817

    You’re right. People don’t handle the truth very well. That’s why people have a difficult time accepting the fact the MJ is innocent.

  • Leogirl_817

    You’re the one casting opinions without facts. Pot, stop calling the kettle black because you two are the same. You have have no facts from the trial. None, what so ever.

  • Leogirl_817

    It’s funny what you say that because when you die, no one will give a @#$%. When MJ died, the majority mourned his death. People cared and people noticed, even the haters noticed. Nobody will notice when you die. Maybe a few ants here and there (you’re family members and friends), but that’s all.

    Unlike MJ, you have made no contributions to society. You just slander people. Look at all that MJ’s done for humanity and you call him a piece of filth? How dare you! At least I can say I’ve made contributions to society.

    When you die, there will be one less uneducted, judgemental piece of filth roaming this earth. People like you are an abomination to mankind. The world would be a better place if there were less people like you and more people like Michael. War and hate would be unheard of.

  • http://twitter.com/dakotaboyd1 elysabeth q

    Are you blind? Perhaps stupid? Or are you just choosing to be ignorant? I will say it again as some people need it drummed into their heads a few times. As stated below, to support my argument of, “I saw Pedophile Jackson with his own mouth saying it was OK to sleep with young children in his bed”, look up on u-tube the interview done my 60minutes. Also an out of court payment to people accusing you of pedophilia, is guilt enough for me! But by all means you stick your head back in the sand and love a pervert that would do this to children. What a lovely human being you must be. Stupid and a supporter of a pedophile! Some fools can have all the facts placed before them and still not see what is obvious to most. I would hate to have loose things rattle around in my head. How is that for you?

  • http://twitter.com/dakotaboyd1 elysabeth q

    He will be remembered by most as a dirty dog that touches children and nothing more. If you feel being remembered by the world is an achievement I should strive for, than vanity is your nightmare. You can chase after this pipe dream if its important to you, but for me, my many loved ones will be more than enough. As I’ve given you the facts you have asked for, well I suppose the next childish thing to do would be attack me with unsupported claims and accusations. Well done two year old! As for what I do to contribute to my society, well as you do not know me, and can only assume, I will leave you with your blind assumptions. As you seem to be defending this lowly dog pedophile so vehemently, can I ask, where you touched my Micheal? Or perhaps part of some pedophile club? The blind defense of such a horrendous crime can only lead me to one of these two conclusions. I look forward to your next childish unsupported rant so I will leave you now with one last thing. Phew…. what’s that smell, oh its Micheals rotting corpse. Boom boom.

  • Anonymous

    Michael Jackson was a fucked up genius who was haunted by demons and sad memories and he couldnt sleep. now its over and he sleeps forever. I’m not sure if his legacy will be his music or the allegations against him, but I do know that people will be arguing about it for a long time. his children look pretty good now that they are leading more normal lives. they seem to have good memories or suppressed memories of him. his billy jean phase was amazing, but the stories of him and little boys finished it for me. I wasnt a fan.

  • http://twitter.com/dakotaboyd1 elysabeth q

    Lisa, Isn’t it funny how you have done nothing but stick to the facts of your MJ debate, yet the ones that oppose your opinion need to attack you and cast names of a negative nature, to defend their arguments.
    I admire how you have not needed to resort to name calling to support your argument. Well done. It seems to me its always the people who are loosing the argument and have nothing to support them selves, that resort to this childish name calling. How very small of them and big of you. You sound to me to be an educated person as apposed to the so called psychology degree person who states this without proof. I don’t know you but I am indeed proud of how you handle yourself ,as I am not that restrained and find enjoyment out of engaging with these fools on their level. You go girl!

  • JKR4632

    HE WAS CLEARED IN A COURT OF LAW OF ALL ACCOUNTS GET REAL AND STOP MAKING THINGS UP CARNT YOU UNDERSTAND ANYTHING.

  • Mama2Jude1112

    I personally believe that Michael was a child molester, but this was not the time to be discussing it.

  • Anonymous

    Except for the idiot fans who kept vigil, lit candles and released doves when the jury let the filthy perv slide….

  • Anonymous

    As I see it, Kurt was one of the few people who approached Jackson with any kind of objectivity, instead of fawning over his every move.

    Listen up people; Michael’s explanations of his feelings and actions towards children is eerily similar to Jerry Sandusky’s…

  • http://twitter.com/dakotaboyd1 elysabeth q

    To be honest I would not believe a thing that comes out of Pedophile Jackson’s mouth. He always lied, and was caught out with it many times. From numerous lies in relation to NOT HAVING HAD PLASTIC SURGERY, to not touching his skin colour. His drug addiction cover ups, and well, his devious feelings for children. Yes he did have a child like mind but he was no child! A grown man behaving like a twelve year old, who is known to have a reasonable IQ, rings alarm bells for me.”A child molester would never reveal something like that to begin with.” Is this your big defence? Really? Wow wee. Whooo. You’re the one with the “psychology degree”? Yeah right! I have read your interpretations in some of your posts, and I think your a bigger lier than MJ to be honest. Please ask me to elaborate on this, as I would be more than happy to respond further….Psychology degree, ha ha ha haaaa

  • Vickyv39

    Mj was innocent and thats why we (mj lovers) love him and the kurt loder is really idiot!!!!!!!!

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