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Kristen Stewart & Robert Pattinson Rumors – Separating Fact From Fiction, Part 6

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In the last few weeks the rumor mill has been insane with stories about Kristen Stewart and  Robert Pattinson.

From sensationalistic stories to flat-out fabrications, outlets have been busy trying to capitalize on a topic they seem to know very little about.

Gossip Cop, however, has put accuracy first from the start, choosing to deliver facts instead of fiction.

Here is the latest we’ve learned from our impeccable inside sources about what’s true and what’s not.

(1) Jezebel ran a long item from an alleged “insider” who claimed to have “information” about Pattinson supposedly having cheated on Stewart repeatedly with different women for a long time. But it wound up being just long list of old, recycled false rumors, which Gossip Cop had previously debunked. Bottom line: The entire story was UNTRUE, and there’s no evidence whatsoever Pattinson was unfaithful.

(2) Oddly, that wholly untrue story was followed up by an even more outrageous report by Gather, which claimed Pattinson is a “bisexual serial cheater,” whose “affairs” may have driven Stewart to stray. WHAT?! The site, which could conceivably end up with a slander suit on its hands, wrote that the actor’s purported “extra-relationship sexual conquests included men as well, two of whom were his Twilight Saga co-stars.” ENOUGH. That story is ENTIRELY NOT TRUE. Pattinson is NOT “bisexual” nor a “serial cheater.”

(3) But that wasn’t the end of outlets wrongly linking Pattinson romantically. OK!, whose reporting is often far less than OK, breathlessly reported that the Cosmopolis star “may not be as heartbroken as everyone has assumed” since he was supposedly spotted out with a “mystery blonde woman” in New York City. The only mystery is how OK! could be so clueless. The blonde woman by Pattinson’s side was simply his agent, Stephanie Ritz. They are NOT romantically involved.

(4) Moving right along, the National Enquirer stepped in with an article titled, “Robert Pattinson’s love life is looking up — thanks to new buddy Leonardo DiCaprio. According to the tabloid, DiCaprio invited Pattinson “on a guys’ getaway” at a “mansion at a secret location so he and his pals can party in private.” Here’s what’s right about the Enquirer story: The spellings of Pattinson and DiCaprio’s names. Here’s what’s wrong: Everything else. A DiCaprio pal told Gossip Cop it is all MADE UP.

(5) Amid all the BS written about Pattinson this past week, Gossip Cop was able to confirm that the handsome actor was offered the role of Lawrence of Arabia in the upcoming film Queen of the Desert, starring Naomi Watts as Lawrence’s friend, English writer Gertrude Bell. We’re told the film is slated to begin production in the fall.

(6) What would scandal stories be like without a link to Lindsay Lohan? In one of the odder stories of the past week, X17Online reported that Stewart has lately “been partying” with Lohan, and that the two “were seen together at a house party… in Huntington Beach.” Either X17Online’s sources should get better glasses or be better liars because the whole story was a complete fabrication. A Stewart pal assures Gossip Cop she was not at a house party, and most assuredly not with Lohan.

(7) A common theme over the last few days has been about Stewart getting “dumped.” Grazia said the actress was “dumped” by Balenciaga — in the wake of her indiscretion — and noted as proof that she wasn’t featured in a video for the fragrance Florabotanica. For starters, Stewart had never been slated to be in the video. More importantly, the video for the fragrance came out a week before the scandal even broke. As a source at Balenciaga told Gossip Cop, the story is 100 PERCENT NOT TRUE.

(8) That story was followed up by a Hollywood Reporter piece that claimed Stewart was “dropped from Snow White sequel plans.” The generally reliable site wrote, “Stewart will not be invited to return if the follow-up goes forward.” A well-placed insider, however, said the report was false. We’re told that Stewart “hasn’t been dropped,” and that “there isn’t a script” yet, so it’s impossible to know for sure which characters will be included in future installments. Gossip Cop hears that even if a future film focuses more on the “Huntsman,” Stewart’s “Snow White” character will still be in the film.

(9) And while outlets were dumping on Stewart, her friend and Panic Room co-star Jodie Foster came to her defense on The Daily Beast, and slammed the obsessive way the media and paparazzi have fixated on the Twilight star. She wrote, “We’ve all seen the headlines at the check-out counter. ‘Kristen Stewart Caught’… But we seldom consider the childhoods we unknowingly destroy in the process.” She added that she “grew to love” a young Stewart while working together, and noted that because of  the new “hunting season” mentality of outlets, “If I were a young actor today I would quit before I started.”

(10) Finally, there was a lot of buzz about a potential Stewart-Pattinson run-in at the upcoming MTV Video Music Awards. Gossip Cop, however, was the first to report there will be NO awkward encounter between the Twilight stars. Sources confirmed to us that Stewart will be at the Toronto International Film Festival — not at the VMAs in Los Angeles — to do press for On The Road. Meanwhile, MTV sources told Gossip Cop that Pattinson was NEVER confirmed to attend the awards. Should he end up going, a decision will only be made several days before the event. Regardless, DO NOT count on the two crossing paths at the VMAs.

And maybe the tabloid writers should be more careful when they cross paths with Gossip Cop.

Regardless, as the media continues to sensationalize and fabricate drama about and between Stewart and Pattinson, Gossip Cop will remain on the beat, separating fact from fiction.

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  • Onorevole

    LLove you Kristen !

  • Anonymous

    Can I cut to the chase here of the 300 comments to follow?

    OMG, GC. Again? Really?

    Oh, here come the haterz.

    She’s the best actress ever!

    She’s a piece of cardboard and a whore.

    You are a piece of crap and stop calling people names, hater!

    You’re an idiot.

    You’re an even bigger idiot.

    She made a mistake!

    Having an affair is not a mistake!

    I love her!

    I hate her!

    How long are you going to persecute her?

    As long as I damn well please.

    I support you, Kristen!

    Go eff yourself, Kristen.

  • WOW

    Best part of this article was “The site, which could conceivably end up with a slander suit on its hands” We can only hope, that is what these trashy magazines deserve.

  • Anonymous

    Love you Kristen! Miss you!

  • Anonymous

    the only fact is that Kristen cheated on Rob with a married man, PERIOD.

  • WOW

    ROTF!!!! BRAVO! BRAVO! You have pretty much have summed up the last 3 weeks of comments on this board in 30 seconds! Thank you.

  • Guest

    This is ridiculous. Everything that has been said about them Gossip Cop has said is false. We know 2 thing for fact. 1- Kristen was photographed kissing the director 2- She released a statement. Everything else is from all of these different “sources”, it’s enough already… everyone is pretending they know exactly whats going but in reality know has a friggen clue. They aren’t going to tell you anything so leave them the hell alone and let them get on with their lives, separate or together.

  • Guest11

    Really GC? Part 6? You ALREADY address all these rumours. Why do you feel the need to do a summary?

  • Onorevole

    Yeh Too bad help wasnt single .I am praying for her every day.

  • Guest11

    You beat me to the ‘OMG, GC. Again? Really?’ comment. Darn. :)

  • Pattinson is not bisexual

    “Pattinson is not bisexual” LOL, How do you know? Do you live under his bed?

  • Money

    I placed a bet with my friend that we would have 11 summaries in total…

  • Onorevole

    Don read Ted Casablanca .He is a lier .

  • Li Ge

    Dear Lord, can this end already and let us go on to the next scandal? Boring and over it, need some new dirt please.

  • http://twitter.com/RobSupporter1 RobSupporter1

    This is beyond ridiculous. I am a huge Rob fan, but I am sick and digusted with all of the hate towards Kristen. Kristen made a mistake. She owned up to it. She is a good actress. The sad part is that Rupert isn’t getting the blame, but Kristen is getting more. I think that he should of known better. That is my personal opinion. Instead the media is deciding to trash Kristen. Look, I know that I have been upset with Kristen, but she is human and I don’t like hate. Please let’s wish her the best and stop spreading hate. Let’s support Rob’s movie this weekend if you can.

  • Onorevole

    Ted never really liked Robsten .He told everybody that they were unusual and nonconventional like an open relationship
    There other idiots form CDAN called Kristen asexual and just hanging byte Robsten coat unwanted
    .So if that wasnt a case why is he so if that sad?

  • Kelli

    Sure hope the media focuses on she and Rupert and not her movie just as they put Rob through this week! Will Rupert be her date, Gossip Cop?

  • Thurston4more

    Could someone tell 3 things; 1. Do we know if Kristen & Robert have even talked? or Win Rob found out & “asked her to leave the house…” = they haven’t seen each other since the story broke?
    2. There are men out there who tell a woman what they want to hear, over & over again = makes a woman think”He MUST LOVE me more than anyone” = no one is Stalking the Bastard that I believe ‘Talked Kristen into an ”affair”’ I really believe that Rupert Sanders is the True Bad Guy & we NEED to give Kristen a Break = She will Always be ”Our Bella” And Finally 3. No matter how much time passes, No matter how Summitt handles the Breaking Dawn part 2 Promos….Rob will ALWAYS Be In Love with Kristen…Thats just the kind of Man he is!
    Is there anything we can do to Help Both Rob & Kristen? I MISS them but only want to see them Happy, together or apart! Blessings JenT

  • Irish Girl

    That was just awesome.

  • Glowgenie

    http://youtu.be/FoZKgyM98aM
    This is a link to the song ” I’ll Stand by You ” . I am not sure if it will go through on this site , but just check it out on You Tube. For all those that do support Kristen and Robert, you might appreciate the song. For others, please just ignore my comment . It’s ok, I am entitled to voice my thoughts too for this beautiful young couple for whom I have the utmost of respect for BOTH of them. This BEAUTIFUL young woman made a mistake , owned up to it , unlike so many other liars out there. For that alone, I admire Kristen for stepping up to the plate …..And to Jodie Foster, so famous, so sweet, so talented, you are an amazing woman to stand up to the media for Kristen. And I so truly hope that someone who loves Kristen so very much , will take her hand and help lead her to safety, hopefully Robert . Love to you both, Robert and Kristen. May you find the strength and courage and love to weather this media circus.

  • Easy

    HUH?

    I barely understood what you wrote, but the truth of the matter is we don’t know anything.

  • Trouble with harry

    Look how Gossip Cop is bringing Rob into this more and more with stories we know are false and completely made up in the heads of krisbians. Leave Rob out of the sordid affair. 1. We have photographic evidence of Kristen and Rupert Sanders all over each other, he is married with two children and Kristen knew he was and has even socialized with his wife. 2. Kristen was living common law with Rob at the time and was completely deceiving him. There is no way they will get back together. As for Jodie Foster she defended Mel Gibson, enough said.

  • guest

    Oh get over yourself this is old news now and as Rob said his personal life isn’t for sale and he nor Kristen have to share anything with anybody about their business so let it go or just keep going and show the whole world how crazy Robs fans really are and you are doing him no favors by making him look weak.He is a gown man and he wll fight his own battles without our help.

  • Elisabetta

    A new scandal is needed … where is LiLo when you need her … or Britney … or even Paris.
    I am so tired of Stewart and Pattinson!

  • JS

    There is a REASON why Ted no longer works for E.

  • guest

    I think it was over him accidently outing or not Jeremy Renner as being gay and was living in a house with his bf in one of his fake blind vices.

  • MickiHess

    You mean those “DOCTORED” photos? Yes, they are doctored. Kristen is kissing Robert in the mini cooper not Rupert. I suppose you change shoes for every photos on the same day? She has on red shoes and black shoes. You need to look closer at those photos. It is Robert in those pictures not Rupert. And I suppose you have no ear on your side of your head? If you are a true Kristen and Robert fan, you would not believe everything in print!!!

  • Obleo

    If Rob truly loves Kristen and if she loves him, then they will work to repair their relationship. It will be worth it if they truly love each other. Too many people walk away and regret in their later years

  • Anonymous

    ****Twiddling my thumbs**** STILL DON’T KNOW SQUAT!

  • guest

    Unless you know Rob and Kristen personally then you don’t know anymore than the rest of us and you have no idea what he will do.Like David cronenberg said you think that you know what is going on but you really don’t so in other words it’s none of our business but their.So go watch his movie because he would rather have focus on his career and not his pesonal life and that is all he owes you.

  • Chrissie

    I heard (can’t remember who told me or if I read it somewhere) that the Uhaul truck that was in their driveway was a set up by a photographer. I did find it odd that the driver in the pic was just sitting there and the gate was closed.
    Same could be said for the unmarked white tractor trailer that was snapped driving down a random street.

    Does GC know the truth in that?

  • Jenny

    Dear Robert Pattinson,

    If you are going to look into a camera and urge me, the viewer, to go out and support your movie, then I feel that I have the right to ask you (via an interviewer) if you are okay. After all, you don’t know me, you don’t know if I like to watch R rated movies, you don’t know if I can afford to go watch a movie in a theatre, if I have transportation to get there, if I have a babysitter to watch my kids if I do go – no, you know none of that, but you still asked me to come see your movie. Now, all I’m asking in return is for you to answer one little question. All you need to say is a simple “yes” or “no”. Hell, at this point I’ll even take a nod or shake of the head. I don’t need to know any other personal details. You need not expound on it any further. Just answer the question when it is posed to you. In America, people do this all the time. We say, “Hi. How ya doin’?” to complete strangers, and normally they say in return, “I’m okay.” It’s called common courtesy. And I promise you, it takes a lot less effort on your part to say “yes” or “no” or nod your head, than to hem and haw and not answer it. Because when you refuse to answer it, it makes people like me wonder about you: are you going to do something stupid like overdose on xanax, or choke on your own drunken vomit, or whatever you may be doing to cope with your girlfriend cheating on you. There are some people still left in the world who honestly care how other human beings feel – not because you are a celebrity – but because we’ve been through heartbreak and know how you feel. I do not need to know any of the murder victims that I see on tv, or the missing children, or those who have been raped, assaulted, soldiers killed in action, etc. etc. in order to feel genuine empathy and compassion for them and their families. So if you really, really are the nice guy you appear to be, could you please just do that? Just answer the question the next time somebody asks you that. Thank you.

  • guest

    They are all sitting back and laughing their asses off at all of this and saying “Thank God it not me this time”. HA

  • Falstaff

    You know, GC, I can’t recall any single story, incident, individual, or couple you’ve had to fight so hard for. I admire that. For the record, nobody with the sense that God promised a doorknob believed any of that shit, but then most of the people you’re trying to enlighten see coloring books as classic literature, so….

    Anyway, good work. I admire your single-minded tenacity.

  • Doves1993

    Funny every time I have seen that question asked he always says that he is indeed doing fine.

  • guest

    she also defended a child rapist.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    The story Gossip Cop should be covering is that FameFlyNet’s version of the story of where these pictures were supposedly taken is FALSE. Google Earth 77267 PACIFIC VIEW DRIVE in Los Angeles, go to street view look NW up the street. Note the picket fence at the end of the property and follow it up the guardrail to the scene of the “overlook pictures”. This was not a secluded overlook.

    Also Google Earth 2294 S. Centalena Drive, LA. Go to street view and turn almost due north and magnify. You’ll see the area where two of the car photos were taken. If you go to Popsugar’s posting of the pictures they will be Numbers #26 and #37. This is not a rundown section of the city. It is also around the corner from where Rupert Sanders is listed as a director under MJZ Productions at 2201 S. Carmelena Drive.

    And if you want to really explore what happening here, see The Grand Punk, parts 1-5 in the comment threads of GC’s Separating Fact & Fiction Parts 1-5.

    More to follow.

  • guest

    oh i don’t doubt the press will ask kristen questions. they asked tom about it at the uk opening of the movie, and he said “i don’t talk about my friends behind their backs.”

  • Rebecca

    This is the exact same crap that happened when Rob and Kristen never confirmed they were dating. Privacy is one thing, but being deliberately secretive just opens the doors for every tabloid and magazine to say whatever they want. Why? Because there’s no way to dispute these rumors! Even Gossip Cop references these mysterious “sources” and we have no way of knowing the truth. These two (Pattinson and Stewart) have complained about the media making up rumors about them, but actually end up pouring gasoline over the fire by not even releasing simple statements. It’s irritating because them not talking about it just makes the rest of the world talk about it MORE, and we get to hear about these ridiculous rumors every day.

  • guest

    I have to agree with Doves1993. In every interview I have watched he has answered the question. In fact in most of them he’s answered it more than once as the interviewers keep repeating the question.

  • Anonymous

    this is how GC will get a lot of attention for writing this stupid rumor fiction.

  • Chloe

    Thank you for the good laugh! Too damn funny.

  • guest

    With the exception of Lilo, who will take any publicity she can get.

  • guest

    hmmmmm McDonalds!

  • guest

    FYI Rob and Kristen are not Edward and Bella.

  • guest

    your reality and his reality are two different things. he has gotten a lot of praise for how he has been carrying himself. if so -called fans don’t like that, fck em. maybe kristen will answer questions how you see fit when she comes out of hiding.

  • Mrsmn5

    i love kristen too best actress and hollywood

  • Anonymous

    Hahaha This made me laugh. That’s what’s been going on these last few weeks on these articles.

  • one who knows

    It has been confirmed that the u-haul was a staged photo by the papps. Not sure about the larger white truck. It has been said that K’s brother was living there and he moved out before this all happened, so maybe it was an old photo, or they used it to hide in and escape!

  • Wow

    Wow, I think you are seriously losing touch with reality. “I do not need to know any of the murder victims that I see on tv, or the missing children, or those who have been raped, assaulted, soldiers killed in action, etc. etc. in order to feel genuine empathy and compassion for them and their families. So if you really, really are the nice guy you appear to be, could you please just do that” I am so blown away by this that I honestly have no words on how to even reply to that quote. Wow.

  • guest

    You say “we” like you are some damn detective out for blood. Calm down!

  • guest

    Yes it was already proven to be staged!

  • guest

    FYI: Rob won’t be reading this….

  • guest

    yeah but sometimes love isn’t enough. if he can’t get that trust back, then they won’t last. there is more to a relationship then just love.

  • one who knows

    David Cronenberg’s comment was in relation to the film, NOT R & K. In some of the video of it, they cut out his comment before he said that sentence, so it could be construed as a R & K comment.

  • andrea

    Good done Tom!!!

  • Laidy

    Britney is past that.
    Paris is IDK, not relevant anymore?
    Lilo? Well she’s always trying something. Probably trying to set up her car being stolen at this very moment.

    We need Kris Jenner should broker a sex tape by with Kanye and Kimmy.

    Or, maybe Brad and Angie could announce the pregnancy of quadruplets.

    Or, Selena and Bieber could break up.

    Or Clooney getting married….

  • guest

    Well isn’t this intresting I saw where someone askes Tom Stu where Kristen asat the OTR premiere and He said “I don’t talk about my friends behind their backs” it don’t sound like Rob’s friends have any problem with her after all! hah

  • andrea

    the real Kristen and Rob´s friends NEVER told and never will talk

  • Banging Head Against Wall

    No, not doctored. Dear Lord, help them, please.

  • guest

    Heres the thing though: They are not the first people to not talk about their private relationships! They shouldn’t have to. They don’t owe the public an explanation

  • Lucky

    I don’t know who is was over, but that blind vice board was a huge liability waiting to happen. Considering they are owned by Universal, whoever was going to sue, would have gotten MILLIONS.

  • Guest

    The way the article is written, there’s no way to know what question he was asked. That was the answer he gave to whatever the question may have been. They might have asked him how Rob was doing. You can google the article where this quote appears. It’s already been picked up by many sources. The friend he is referring to may very well be Rob.

  • one who knows

    Someone below posted that in the photos K had on different shoes. Is that true? Did we miss something? Maybe the pics were on different days? I haven’t looked back at the pics yet to see for myself….going there now.

  • andrea

    Twilighter, thank you very much for trying to make us see that things are not so clear … the appearances can be deceiving … something strange about the subject of the pictures and I appreciate greatly that among various are trying explain things.

    I thank GC to confirm or deny things but I think they should heed tabloids with stories that no one believes … missing confirm and / or deny many important data that those.

  • Elisabetta

    … yeah

  • Guest

    Dylan Kiko Happyfeet- please stop

  • guest

    Glad to hear that. I often have wondered what he thought of the whole situation anyways, especially his fiance Sienna MIller.She too had an affair with a married man, it wouldbe interesting to know what she thinks of it all…

  • Ishg

    Not related to Kristen.

  • Guest

    Don’t go towards the light. Really.

  • Jeez

    No, it’s because of the lighting. It’s clearer in one than the other. And it’s not black.

  • andrea

    Things are getting really ugly, especially for Kristen, and I hope the cards are drawn soon because Kristen will go on the street and who knows what fans can go insane.

  • guest

    How do you know this? Thats the whole point..NO ONE knows who he is talking about. Yes Rob is his best friend, but since NO ONE knows what the current situation is between Rob and Kristen, maybe he was talking about both of them

  • Halo

    Great article on Kristen’s cheating scandal.

    Written by Lorella

    (Lainey: some of you have written to say that you don’t agree with the perceived pro-Kristen Stewart position Duana and I have taken on the cheating scandal and the subsequent cover. For analysis then on the Jodie Foster defence of her former co-star, I’ve asked my friend Lo to weigh in, as we have slightly differed on our perspectives of the situation although where Foster is concerned, I’m with Lo on this one. And Joshua Malina. Her argument is flawed. Lo is, literally, a master debater. Also a lawyer. Here’s a lawyer’s logic to Jodie Foster’s defence of Kristen Stewart.)

    First things first: Apart from my interest in Good Gossip, I don’t actually “in real life” care that Kristen Stewart cheated on Robert Pattinson with a married father of two or feel strongly about the situation in and of itself.  I don’t think she should be vilified. I don’t think she should be made to hide away until the world has “forgotten”. (Spoiler alert to Kristen – they’ll remember as soon as you show your face anyway, so you might as well get on with your life.) Nor do I agree with those who’d like to fashion her into some kind of feminist hero.  I won’t be posting any thoughts on the matter to YouTube, if you know what I mean. I already know it’s not my business. (Although, as Lainey’s pointed out, when Kristen I love him, I love himmed all over the place, she signalled that to some extent it was okay for the rest of us to notice.  We’re not exactly party crashers when we all got a flyer with the time and date.)

    I feel the need to point out that I don’t really care about any of the people involved because so much of the commentary on the Stewart/Sanders situation has been so heavily “invested” (to put it mildly) as to render it almost meaningless.  Her fans foam at the mouth and beg us all to just please leave her alone to live her life! Wishful thinking, in that their exact brand of obsessive interest in the most minute details of her life – an interest Kristen slyly ridicules – keeps the paparazzi in business. For their part, Pattinson’s most ardent/unhinged fans want Kristen banished, or worse. Those people all cancel each other out until the rest of us are left. The casual observers. The generic smut hounds. The students of popular culture.  (Somewhat unrelated: I wish we could dispense with the “He’s so hot how could she cheat on him?!” sentiment once and for all.  If we run down the list of famous celebrity cuckolds, it’s an attractive bunch. Hot people get cheated on all the time. If physical beauty was the cure for adultery, suffice to say that Tiger Woods maybe wouldn’t have needed to go see about that diner waitress.  The real question you should be asking, if you care, is how could she cheat on someone she purports to adore?)

    What I do feel strongly about, however, is the turn some of the commentary on the cheating scandal has taken. I’ve whined to Lainey and Duana about some of the things they’ve said in (mild) defence of Stewart. But it wasn’t until I read Jodie Foster’s piece for The Daily Beast yesterday morning, that I really thought we’d veered beyond the pale of logical discourse. If you haven’t already, you can read it here.

    Even before I read it, I thought: Does Kristen Stewart want Mel Gibson’s champion speaking up for her? (“Is he an anti-Semite? Absolutely not.”– Jodie Foster, on Mel Gibson. Google “Mel Gibson anti-Semitic remarks” and make up your own mind. Maybe safe to say that Foster isn’t always the most objective source when it comes to the foibles of her friends.) Regardless, the same week that Pattinson has been dodging substantive discussion of the cheating or the split that ensued, and weeks after it first hit the tabloids and caused a frenzy, Jodie Foster has seen fit to come to the ferocious defence of her colleague and friend, “kid actor” Kristen Stewart.

    My first “Where exactly are we going here, Jodie?” was right at the beginning of the piece, where after admitting that we all engage in some small measure of celebrity gossip, she gives us this zinger: “But we seldom consider the childhoods we unknowingly destroy in the process.”  It’s a nice bit of irony.  I can think of a couple of childhoods that may have been destroyed as a result of Kristen Stewart’s involvement with Rupert Sanders.  Unlike Foster, however, I don’t think Kristen’s childhood happens to be one of them.  I’d argue that Foster simply muddies the water by even remotely referring to Kristen as a child.  Kristen’s childhood safely ended long before the Sanders grope-fest started.  In fact, we’ve been told by many – including her co-stars and Kristen herself – that she was never much of a “little kid” even when she was a kid.  In the article, Foster herself reminisces that even at the age of 11, Kristen could only barely be cajoled to “begrudgingly” participate in a silly birthday party dance.  Kristen has said of herself  “I was glad to leave school… I couldn’t relate to kids my own age…really I have felt that I should have been an adult since I was aged about five.  I just remember when I turned 18 everyone asked me if I felt more mature, but I felt the same as I always did. Juggling work and school, and helping my mother, I’ve always had a lot of responsibility.”  And it’s not just her own perception of her emotional age. She’s been described repeatedly by fellow actors and her directors as mature beyond her years.

    Until, of course, she screwed up, at which point many, including Foster, have rushed to utterly infantilize her in a maddening attempt to dismiss her behavior as a mistake typical of someone so incredibly young. It’s no better to write off Kristen’s mistake as being a result of her age as it is to shrug and say “Oh, boys will be boys” when grown-ass men cheat.  To me, Foster’s “WON’T ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?” diatribe comes out of left field where Kristen Stewart in particular is concerned.  We’re to blame for the demise of her dignity and relationship because the poor little girl is hounded so! A month ago, if you’d patted Kristen Stewart on the head and said “There there, little girl – you don’t know what you’re doing at all, do you?”, you’d probably have taken a punch.

    One of Lainey’s favourites, Aaron Johnson, is like Kristen Stewart, 22 years old. He too decided to become involved with his director, also 20 years his senior, then got her pregnant (twice), married her and is raising a family which includes another man’s children. These are the decisions of an adult who acts for a living and lives in a country with a thriving obsession with celebrities.  My point is just because we think Kristen’s maybe making some crappy decisions doesn’t mean she’s not making them as an adult. We don’t do her any favours by demoting her to idiot teenager.

    So she was giving in to her “momentary” (a-hem) desires, and maybe subconsciously trying to find a way out of a relationship that was past its Best Before date, so what?  Unlike Lainey, I don’t believe Stewart was forced to “bend over” to give that apology, nor do I agree that she’s being kept in hiding by the expectations of Twihards, Robstenites or the Minivan Majority.  All of that suggests that Kristen’s not making choices, and furthermore that she’s not capable of making choices. I don’t presume to know what Kristen Stewart is really like, but she certainly hasn’t come across as the kind of woman who would appreciate being dismissed as some young twit who doesn’t know any better. I say she chose to cheat, she chose to apologize profusely to her boyfriend in a very public way, and she’s choosing to lay low until she can come to terms with the ramifications of both previous choices.

    Regardless of Foster’s reference to Kristen’s age, I’m not as anxious to sweep it all under the “she’s so young” rug.  When does that expire? What’s the magical age where you are held accountable for your choices? If, like me, you disagree with those who would see Kristen tarred and feathered, why not “She made a mistake people, leave her be.”? Why do we have to add “She’s only 22!”  Sure she’s only been of legal drinking age for about a year. But if we’re going to refer to arbitrary indicators like that, she’s technically been an adult able to vote and enlist for 4, and according to her, she’s actually been living and feeling like an adult for much longer than that. How many other 22 year olds are out there juggling work, school, and raising a family, or, I don’t know, leaving home for their third tour of duty?? 22 is not 16. It’s old enough. This is a mistake men and women of any and every age make. Let’s not attribute it to her age, because in so doing, we take even more away from her. (Duana are we fighting?)

    Red herring of actual childhood aside, my real issue with Foster’s article is that she has somehow twisted the story into an example of “how we destroy child stars”.  She’s implicating Kristen’s childhood fame and the Hollywood machine, suggesting that either or both drove her into the arms of Rupert Sanders.

    It’s a true, sad story we know all too well – child star loses his or her cuteness, “precocious” goes stale and the kid gets tossed on the heap with others who’ve outgrown their moment in the spotlight, only to spend the rest of their lives engaging in more and more outrageous and/or self-destructive behaviour trying to recapture it. This is not that.  Kristen Stewart is not Corey Haim.  She’s not some irrelevant has-been that’s been driven to a life of drugs and self-harm as a result of being discarded when she got her permanent teeth.  Foster would have us believe that we ruin the childhoods of all child actors and we’ve ruined Kristen’s childhood and possibly her life.  But she’s completely overlooking the fact that Stewart has already very handily negotiated the seemingly impossible transition from “child star” to “star”.     When does the statute of limitations expire on her child stardom being an excuse for future missteps?

    I guess her argument would hold water if Kristen were hounded (she is) and then the public had arbitrarily decided to be done with her (it did not).  If, for example, Hilary Duff had crashed and burned as soon as little girls outgrew Lizzie McGuire (which, quite admirably, she did not, although she’s been punishing us with her “literature” instead.) that would fit Foster’s model.  Given her very current mega-stardom, Kristen’s recent “activity” simply can’t be chalked up to the same pattern of other child stars who’ve hit the skids once they’re sorted into the bin of “kids we don’t need anymore.”  Stewart’s already run that gauntlet and survived.  At this point, if this specific actor were to crash and burn – why would we chalk it up to “Hollywood is a monster that eats children”?  It’s a youth obsessed environment, yes. But the specific trope of child star failing to make the transition and falling into a life plagued with substance abuse just doesn’t fit Kristen Stewart.

    Once you remove the “tragic child actor ending” angle all we’re left with from Foster is a tired old Hollywood cliché.  Poor me – I’m so famous. All these evil people want to take my picture and know my favourite song.  Not quite as compelling as “the destruction of childhood”.  Like many other serious actors, Foster goes on at length about the pain of having to give up your life in exchange for your art.  If she really felt that way, then maybe she and Kristen’s parents should have conspired to steer Kristen towards a career in theatre, where she could act to her heart’s content and never have had to engage in dodging the paparazzi at LAX.  Then again, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a theatre actress become the face of a designer fragrance either, so maybe the Hollywood machine isn’t that bad after all.

    On the contrary, Foster’s relentless description of being famous makes it sound like something… well, something much, much worse than being famous. She refers to “the gladiator sport of celebrity culture” (Reality Check: gladiators were slaves who were forced to kill each other for the entertainment of others much more fortunate than they. Not figuratively, but actually, kill each other as a spectator sport.); “the cruelty of life lived as a moving target”; “The point is to survive, intact or not, whatever the emotional cost.”  Did I miss Jodie Foster’s tragic stint as a child soldier? She wonders whether she would have made it to healthy adulthood if she’d started her career today, “in the new era of social media and its sanctioned hunting season.”  Foster really likes equating the public’s intense interest and celebrity photography with physical harm. (You know who I bet really liked Foster’s article?  Ashley Judd. ) Sounds familiar, right? Maybe Kristen learned to equate being photographed with being raped from Jodie Foster.  I’m more than willing to consider, however, that the inevitable trauma and guilt that Foster suffered as a result of being the motive behind her stalker’s assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan when she was 19 years old, has coloured her view such that for her, intense scrutiny, whether by fans, photographers or deranged stalkers, is all equally and inextricably linked with violence and tragedy.  But one also gets the sense she’s doing a lot of projecting here.  If your fame results in getting caught cheating on your boyfriend, it’s not the same as your fame inspiring a stranger to kill the President of the United States in a bid to impress you.

    For some reason though, (and maybe it was the Reagan situation) I had always perceived Foster as unassuming and humble.  I was wrong. She shows us what’s on the inside when she muses that if she hadn’t managed to “survive” Hollywood  “Sarah Tobias would never have danced before her rapists in The Accused. Clarice would never have shared the awful screaming of the lambs to Dr. Lecter.  Another actress might surely have taken my place, opened her soul to create those characters, surrendered her vulnerabilities.  But would she have survived the paparazzi peering into her windows, the online harassment, the public humiliations, without overdosing in a hotel room or sticking her face with needles until she became unrecognizable even to herself?”  I’ll be honest. Unlike Ms. Foster, I didn’t go to Yale, but at this point? She’s starting to sound like Nell to me.  Apart from delving into excessive self congratulation of her specialness, what’s the point here? None. That’s the only point: that she’s just so incredibly special that she managed to survive (when she doubts that others would) and as a result, (lucky for us!) we weren’t deprived of her amazing performances. She’s squarely placing herself in what she sees as the singular position of having been able to portray Sarah and Clarice with some vulnerability, while managing to come out of the entire hideous fame ordeal alive. In the process, she casually throws actresses who succumb to substance abuse and self-mutilation under the bus.  (Speaking of which, Hollywood Sliding Doors: Nicole Kidman was to play Kristen Stewart’s mother in Panic Room, but she had an injury that kept her from taking on the role.  Maybe if she had played the Panic Room mother, these days Kristen would have a fledgling third lip instead of constantly upturned middle fingers.)

    Lainey’s written about how Kristen has damaged her “brand” in the way she’s handled this situation.  She’s supposed to be smart, honest and has gone on record as hating fake people. If Paris Hilton cheats on her boyfriend with a married man, it’s a big fat shrug (except maybe from that guy’s wife.) When self-proclaimed stickler for honesty, uber-authentic badass Kristen Stewart gets caught doing the same, I’d argue it’s a whole other ballgame.  Even more than hating cheaters, people hate hypocrites.  Much of the fascination with this story is specific to Kristen Stewart and not, as Foster would have us believe, attributable to hapless youth, the plight of the child star or Big Bad Hollywood. But, if you insist Jodie, have it your way. Kristen’s just a kid. And Mel’s just an alcoholic.

  • Loveablescar

    Not about Kristen…. He was probably talking about the whole situation. All the actors declined to talk about it.

  • Guest11

    haha! I am nosy (unfortunately), so against my better judgement I check in with GC to see what is real/fake. lol
    Don’t write a new post with old rumours that have already been talked about. Recycling info to keep the comments flowing.

  • Guest

    I truly hope no parent of one of the “murder victims” you casually see on tv or parents of “soldiers killed in action” see your post. To liken their pain and suffering with that of a multi-millionaire 26 year-old whose very young girlfriend got caught kissing another man is nothing short of shocking.

  • Zulmadruiz

    You people are alway in defense of Mr. Robert Pattinson, I personally am sick of him, and I will never see a movie with him. Miss Kristen Steward has been critize and judge by you Gossip What? She is Young, enough she didn’t kill anyone

  • Loveablescar

    :/ Your annoying. If Robert was to ever cheat on Kristen i would be right beside her. Being young isn’t an excuse. She should of known better. Her and Rupert.

  • Bye

    Bye!

  • andrea

    Jodie Foster has mcuhso friends … is a highly respected woman, intelligent, not for nothing that is Cum Laude from Yale, and how important she does not judge his friends.

    Why so much hatred for Kristen?

    Do you have responded well by Woody Allen cheating his wife Mia Farrow’s adopted daughter with her?

    Here is double standard and this false puritanism drives me crazy …. nobody cares Rupert Sanders … before Kristen was hated without reason, for being the girlfriend of Robert Pattinson, now you have the perfect excuse to hate her even more.

    Mel Gibson, Woody Allen, Kevin Costner, Melanie Griffith, Jude Law, Sienna Miller, Val Kilmer, Michael Douglas, Ashton Kutcher, David Letterman, Charlie Sheen, Meg Ryan, Julia Roberts, Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Morgan Freeman, Robin Williams Sean Penn …. the list is very long

    No one has received so much criticism as Kristen … luckily Jodie Foster is here to bring some sanity and sensitivity.

    Of course, no actor wants to defend Kristen Proquad all know they have something to hide.

  • Loveablescar

    Stop going down peoples throats. Its pathetic.

  • andrea

    But the alleged violator is still working… a lot of person want that Kristen let her job.

  • Loveablescar

    I agree. They are actors and actress. That’s it.

  • guest

    Yes but I would be interested to see if so many would be ready to stone Rob like they are Kristen. I still think many kristen haters would find a reason to make it her fault.

  • Liz

    Going down people’s throats? I thought the post made sense….

  • Loveablescar

    You do understand that there are Rob haters too? Please. People are already making it Rob and Liberty fault. People are already saying it’s the kids fault.

  • guest

    ok. don’t go see one his movies. do you want a reward?

  • Jen

    Wow, Lainey hit the nail on the head! Bravo!

  • Cara

    I think you missed the point. There is a double standard when it comes to men cheating and women cheating.

  • one who knows

    Nope, only red shoes in all photos that show her feet. Rupert’s are black,

  • Elle464

    She hit the nail on the head. The reason a lot of peoPle are hating Kristen is not because she cheated but because she’s a hypocrite. What happened to the girl who went around basing other actors for selling themselves, bashing Lindsay Lohan, wearing chucks on the red carpet, and going around flipping the bird saying “I hate fake people”? What happened to they girl?

    I don’t hate her but after this cheating scandal, Kristen Stewart comes across as a very fake and self centered person. She courts the spotlight with all her Vogue, Elle, and Bazaar covers and photoshoots with Karl Lagerfeld and her involvement in pieces of crap like Snow White and the Huntsman, and then she turns around and says “I HATE THE MEDIA I DON’T WANT TO BE FAMOUS I JUST WANT TO AAAAAACT”. That’s not how it goes. Selling your image for a designer perfume isn’t acting. It’s a way to increase your fame and also sell yourself.

    You know, I want to feel bad for her..but then I think of all those times in the past 4 years where she’s been interviewed and said I’m so real, I hate Hollywood, I’m not like that, I’m so honest, I have nothing to hide, I hate fake people, etc. I just can’t pitty her or her fake persona.

  • Euth

    Alleged? No Not alleged, he did rape that girl.

    He had to flea, was jailed, probation, flea, extradited, etc., it hasn’t been an easy road for him… So let’s not get that confused.

  • Rebecca

    Of course they don’t owe the public a thing. I agree. But, in my opinion, as someone who’s a fan of them both, they wouldn’t have to be the subjects of so much ridiculous gossip if they simply confirmed or denied certain things. That’s not the same as talking about it. I think it would be hard for either of them to be very respected as actors in the future because they’ve become tabloid fodder, and that stems primarily from the fact that they sit back and let themselves be lied about.

  • Loveablescar

    I understand. And i stand by my comment. Having a parents that with though a divorce it’s always the mans fought. And in my case my mother was the one was cheater.

  • guest

    lmao. i loved it that someone brought up jodie defended mel. you know the same mel gibson that beat up a woman, and is anti semitic. jodie is a great actress, but she always tries to pass blame to other things then the people responsible.

  • Loveablescar

    You are basically attacking the person. Do you not know what going down people’s throats mean?

  • Elle436

    Like I said before, the reason a lot of people are hating Kristen is not because she cheated but because she’s a hypocrite. What happened to the girl who went around bashing other actors for selling themselves, bashing Lindsay Lohan, wearing chucks on the red carpet, and going around flipping the bird saying “I hate fake people”? What happened to that girl? How are her stans defending her? Not that there’s anything wrong with defending anyone but Kristen just crushed everything she made you believe about her.

    I don’t hate her but after this cheating scandal, Kristen Stewart comes across as a very fake and self centered person. She courts the spotlight with all her Vogue, Elle, and Bazaar covers and photoshoots with Karl Lagerfeld and her involvement in pieces of crap like Snow White and the Huntsman, and then she turns around and says “I HATE THE MEDIA I DON’T WANT TO BE FAMOUS I JUST WANT TO AAAAAACT”. That’s not how it goes. Selling your image for a designer perfume isn’t acting. It’s a way to increase your fame and also sell yourself.

    You know, I want to feel bad for her..but then I think of all those times in the past 4 years where she’s been interviewed and said I’m so real, I hate Hollywood, I’m not like that, I’m so honest, I have nothing to hide, I hate fake people, etc. I just can’t pitty her or her fake persona.

  • seeking the truth

    Just curious – why are there any “haters” at all? If someone doesn’t like a particular actor, don’t see their movies. Why hate? That is an incredibly strong word and really should not be associated with someone unless you know them personally. And yes – there are historical figures we can’t hate for crimes they have committed, but we are talking about an actor here – not Hitler.

  • Sandy II

    Brilliant … ;-)))

  • wrong

    No, wrong again. You can see it in the video that that was not it. Also, he told times magazine the same thing when they ask Rob the same crap again.

  • seeking the truth

    Probably because they know there is no real story here hahaha!!!

  • andrea

    when a man cheats on his partner, all tell to her, forgive him it was a mistake.

    When a woman cheats on his partner, all tell him breaks up with her

  • seeking the truth

    I agree. Unless lshg is inside of Tom’s head and understands everything he says, how does lshg know that Tom was not talking about Kristen? I love how people sit back and listen to something and then say “Ahh – well that’s not what he meant blah blah blah” – and we are talking about a person that they don’t even know!! Its ridiculous.

  • Sandy

    Correct! At least someone has common sense. Too many discrepancies in this story. We don’t know shit.

  • tee hee

    You made me think of something —- and I agree with a lot of what you are saying. What if they don’t care? What if they think this is all a big joke? Maybe they are laughing at how worked up people are getting over people they don’t know and a situation they have no clue as to what happened. Because honestly – we don’t – we only know what the tabloids have fed us.

  • guest

    lainey didn’t write that, her friend did.

  • Shinypenny99

    This is the best and most insightful comment made on a GC board to date! Thank you for a little bit of veracity and sound advice! :)

  • seeking the truth

    That was very disturbing……………….

  • Loveablescar

    Because people pick teams. It’s either Rob’s fault or Kristen fault. Its how their fanbase works. Talking about the tumblr ones at least. You have to understand that most of them are pretty young and don’t fully understand that Rob and Kristen just do their job and their personal life should mean nothing. Its not actually hate either. Its just crazy hate.

  • Onorevole

    It is because of edward .Also a plain girl like Kristen shuoldnt be unhappy with Rob .To chose a man is a privelage of beautiful blonds likeScarlet Johanson or Blake Lievly not a tomboy .People dont like it.I plain looking girls cheat imagine what the pretty blonds can don.If Edward Culen is cheated upon what is left for belly beer men?

  • MKB

    Sure they don’t owe it — we know we know we know we know, God, we know — but is this circus what they want instead? Well, maybe if they ever decide what each wants, they’ll at least show up together hand-in-hand, or apart always…which will be like a huge neon sign for those who just have to know, and the tabloids to shut the he’ll up…

  • Rebecca

    Maybe you’re right. This whole thing is funny. People getting so angry…it all makes for a great joke. But Rob and Kristen, by not saying anything, are entrenching themselves further in this “joke” and soon they will be seen as “jokes” permanently, just like Paris and Lindsay and everyone else who frequents (or frequented) tabloid headlines so often.

  • Sapph

    You forgot:

    And here comes the trolls! LOL!

  • Que?

    77267 Pacific View is not the right address, nothing looks like the picket fence and 2294 S. Centalena Drive doesn’t exist… ??

  • Rebecca

    My thoughts exactly. “Circus” is a great word for it.

  • Onorevole

    You ca n only kill a persone once .Any repetition is wasted cruelty Save it for sombody else.You have killed her already .Thank you

  • Anonymous

    Do you really believe that Kristen or her team would allow all this commotion to continue if those pictures were ‘doctored’? Do you realise how damaging this could be to a persons reputation and career? She’s being called every name under the sun, and she’s dropped out of Cali, a role she was apparently in love with and going to the gym regularly to train for. Also, if those pictures were ‘doctored’ US magazine and every magazine/ website that followed and printed the pics would be sued so hard that a lot of them would probably go bankrupt. They’d be sued for an astronomical amount of money because like I said, those pictures can (and already have on some levels) highly jeopardise Kristen’s reputation and career. You don;t have to believe ‘everything in print’, because like Gossip Cop have shown, a lot of bullshit stories keep coming up, but I don’t understand how you don’t believe hard photographic proof that Kristen cheated? Did you even see all of those 50+ pictures?

    The fact that some people believe that those pictures and/ or public apology are fake boggles my mind. Delusion at it’s finest.

  • Cassie

    Who says he looks weak? He’s acting like a mature adult, honoring his professional committments and charming everyone who interviews him.

    Just because he’s being a gentleman about everything is no excuse for her behavior. She is NOT the victim. She put herself in the spotlight by cheating with a married man, people aren’t just going to ignore that.

  • Shinypenny99

    This is actually in replay to Loveablescar – I can understand young people doing the crazy love/crazy hate thing. They are teenagers and are not old enough or mature enough to be objective when it comes to idolizing celebs. My issue is that many of the crazy haters are women in their 30′s and 40′s and they act worse than teens. It is ridiculous and actually alarming. They should be grown up enough to be a fan of the celeb they like and ignore the one they do not like.

  • word

    So don’t read about her or see her movies, simple as that. I feel the same way about, say, Nicole Kidman but this is the first time I’ve ever commented about her on a blog post.

  • one who knows

    7267 pacific view.

  • Samantha

    That’s not really true. Angelina and Brad have openly discussed their relationship, and there is a new tabloid lie about them every day. So is the case with many celeb couples. Just because the couple willingly talks about the relationship does not mean the tabloids stop speculating about it. I agree with Rob and Kristen on this. They could talk about it, and the media would continue to make up lies about them. It wouldn’t stop regardless of what they acknowledge or don’t acknowledge.

  • Loveablescar

    Wrong address. Its 2728 Pacific View Trail.

  • word

    I thought it was at least a well thought out article. I don’t totally agree with it though. I still think it was a very 22 yr old thing to do and just goes to show that any 18-25 year old, no matter how much responsibility they’ve had or how mature they are, still have a bit of the young adult idiocy gene in them. And some of you are going to jump on me and tell me how you never did anything morally wrong or selfish or stupidly impulsive yourself and that’s no excuse for her. I can only go by my own experience and say yeah I could have done that–something dumb that I hadn’t really considered all the ramifications of at the time. Good for you for being so perfect. Now I’m a responsible adult but was definitly a stupid 20 yr old so I can see how it happens and can empathize. She’s been punished by the public enough. Time to leave it for the people directly involved Rob, (parents, industry cohorts, friends and family to dole out the punishment without any of us being a part)

  • Brunns1414

    PS: where is bear? can we bring back Carmen San Diego? Where in the world is Kristen Stewart and Bear?
    Please people lets just stop. We all want to know are they, arent they, will they, wont they, we all want to burn someone at the stake…lets seriously stop, this is disgusting and gross that people are hating on other human beings that have no effect on any part of the real world…not just towards Kristen or Rob…but to eachother. Its gross and so messed up. Support them, dont support them, she’s a trampier, she’s a victim, who the F cares. NO ONE KNOWS A GD THING. I agree im interested in knowing, and im feeding this beast and keeping the ball rolling by posting…but shit its none of our business and it will literally be what it will be…everyone put on their big kid pants and stop being immature and bullying eachother. And god forbid something happens to this poor girl like Selena, or Princess Di because of all this rage? Not one of them or their teams has said a thing since her apology lets just let it freakin be.
    again WHERE IN THE WORLD IS BEAR??? hahahahahahahahah

  • Loveablescar

    Replaying to Shinypenny- Oh i agree 100 percent. Its as there is a void in their life and Rob and Kristen are somehow filling it. A lot oF the people on here are like this. Its fine catch up with gossip and enjoy it to a agree. But how people are treating others are terrible.

  • word

    Really? I thought the response was to the queston “where’s Kristen”?

  • Loveablescar

    Its 2728 Pacific View Trail.Not drive.

  • Sandra (Guest)

    This is the adres for the studio parkinglot:
    2272 south centinela Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90064

    and for de overlook:
    7275 Pacific View Drive, Los Angeles, CA, United states

  • Anonymous

    I’m sick and disgusted that so many people are willing to dismiss this as a ‘mistake’. Try concious decision. ‘Mistake’ is bad enough to try and excuse a one time thing, but as Gossip Cop had already said, and as you can tell by the intimacy in THOSE pictures, this affair happened more than once.

    I agree some of the more venom-filled hate towards Kristen is not needed (if Kristen, Rob, Rupert, Liberty etc. weren’t in the public eye, the only people involved in this affair would be the aforementioned people, and not the public), but everything has consequences. And In my opinion, she only owned up to it because she was caught. She was out cheating on Rob and then pictured at a concert a few days later as if nothing had happened. That’s what disgusts me. I don’t hate her, but I don’t like her any more. I can’t like people who set out to destroy relationships because of something they’ve CHOSEN to do, not something that happened by ‘mistake’. She chose to do something horrible to people she knew and someone she claims to love. And that Rupert is no better, don’t get me wrong. They’re both as bad as each other.

  • Loveablescar

    That isnt the overlook. This is 2728 Pacific View Trail

  • KStew is Toxic

    Yours is the kind of comment that literally turns my stomach. KStew only “owed up” to her lying and cheating because she was confronted with photos. If not, who knows how long she would have gone on lying and cheating? She’s proved herself to be untrustworthy, she doesn’t need for Rob to take her back, she needs a lot of therapy. She’s too immature to be in a relationship with anyone, she needs to learn some respect first.

    Some delusional people have created this idea that he “loves her so much” because of Twilight, it was never an epic romance. They’ve been together long enough to get over the initial infatuation and chemistry – that’s all done. Plus, she killed whatever feelings he had when she publicly betrayed him.

    Men don’t get over stuff like that, she’s proved she’s disloyal and can’t be trusted. He will move on and I highly doubt he will ever take her back no matter what – he’s exposed to a lot of beautiful, intelligent, interesting women all the time, he’ll find one he can trust and be happy again. If you’re a fan of his, you want her nowhere near him, she’s toxic.

  • Glowgenie

    So where did I mention the names Edward and Bella ? I wrote the note in good faith and admiration for Jodie Foster, for saying something nice and an attempt of support for two young actors . I am not sure why people are so rude about everything. I am speaking in reference to two young people going through a difficult time. Is there something wrong with that ? Would you perhaps Prefer, I speak rude and nasty things about them that are none of my business. People in glass houses should not be throwing stones. I have made plenty of mistakes , how about you ? Are you still being punished for it ; that is , in case you did make a mistake in life .

  • andrea

    Danny Morgan, cast in ON THE ROAD told today in London for the Summer Festival about Kristen wasn´t here.

    Danny told us: “Yeah it’s a shame. We would have all loved her to be here and it would’ve been great and I know she’s sad she can’t be here.

    “She would’ve loved to be here because I know she’s so proud of this film and her performance in it and she’s amazing in it. People will be blown away by it. She’s incredible.”

  • Ma_mad_mom

    So Glowgenie thinks of them as Edward & Bella, becauser she supports them both? is that what you are suggesting? I support both Robert Pattinson & Kristen Stewart, i dont think of them as edward & bella. I dont lust after Rob (or Kris for that matter), i like the actors, and not because of the parts they play.

  • guest

    oh gosh you again,i no we read this like 39899 times on all the other articles we get your point,except you seem to be missing one point

    YOU DO NOT KNOW ROB AND HOW HE FEELS!

    so move on.

  • Loveablescar

    Now this is what you call real friends.

  • andrea

    If you beggin to sell your life to the medias you will sell your soul.

    One thing you can do if the journalist puts you in confidence in an interview, you can talk about what you want but it´s best to keep this air of mystery because in the end the press betrays you.

    For the press, one day you’re up and the next day you sink

  • Anonymous

    I have to respectfully disagree. I don’t think the ‘oh, she’s only 22! 22 year olds make mistakes!’ should fly. It diminishes those 20/21/22 etc. year olds who manage to know where to draw the line. I’m 21, but I know never to cheat, especially with a married man and a wife and kids that I am friendly with. Sure I’ve made mistakes. Why, just the other day, I brought my friend some regular M&M’s when in fact she asked for peanut ones. Oh darn. That’s a mistake, cheating is not.

    I’ve never cheated and I’ve never been cheated on so this has nothing to do with me feeling bad for Rob or Liberty because I can relate to their pain or some shit. But I have been in Liberty’s Kids position. I was not much older than them in fact when my father cheated on my mother with a much younger girl. That’s not something you ever forget. Seeing your heartbroken mother cry every day for months because of something your father and another woman have caused changes how you view him for the rest of your life, no matter how hard you try to forgive and forget.

  • agree

    ITA, Rob should say “we are over” or “I still love her” so the circus was over and the world could move on. But he didn’t and now everybody is talking about are they still together or aren’t they?

  • Guest

    I loved this article and agreed with every part of it. I am not a Kristen Stewart hater at all. As a matter of fact, I really want to like her. But her actions have gone against who she claimed to be. I want to feel sorry for her but I can’t. And I don’t think a lot of people will be able to. I admire Rob’s call for empathy, he is a good man. Kristen claimed to hate fame and said that she wanted to act and she is probably going to get her wish. I don’t think her career is over, she will just have a different one that she was looking for. Which may be a good thing in the end. Everything happens for a reason.

  • tired

    Hate is wrong and it does not matter the reason. Kristen cheated and ask to be forgiven. You hate and justify your reasons for doing it. Two wrongs do not make a right.

  • Loveablescar

    Well yes that’s the common logic. But people these days don’t care. I am sure she is regretting every minute of this.

  • andrea

    me too.

    A lot of people think that when one time you cheat always cheat… He must be worry Tom thinking is Sienna will cheat on him later??

    Sienna Miller cheat on with Balthazar Getty, a married man with children… and after with Jude Law…. and she still working and a lot of person think she´s marvellous.

  • guest

    looks are not everything you no. Yeah course having a good looking guy or women on your arm is a bonus ,but what about personality ,what about having a special connection with them. having stuff in common being your best mate but girlfriend or boyfriend at the same time.

    Looks can only get you so far.

  • Pledge

    Whose fault is that? Sad.

  • Mom

    “She’s a kid” “She’s a child” “Give her a break , she’s a girl”

    Ummm.. No.

    You can go to WAR and fight at 18 and DIE at 18.
    You can get married in most states at 16.
    You can pretty much have a child at any age.
    You can drink at 21.
    You can vote at 18.
    You can drive in most states at 16.
    You can get a job in most states at 16.
    I’m tired of hearing she’s only 22, she’s a legal adult!

    Her and Rupert caused all of this, but I do not accept the cop-out that she’s only a kid.

    Give me a break.

  • guest

    yeah that is a real friend . were all proud of you Kristen!

  • andrea

    The strange thing is that it´s no shows a sequence of photos …. I do not understand how in some pictures there is Rob’s cap and other not when they are in the same place?

    In my opinion and you can lynch me, the photos are real but everything is so mechanical, they look a fews time to the camara, more Rupert, no passion, bizarre for lovers… Do you can think she is with Rupert, realizes she hasn´t got the cap and goes to her car to take it? Something smells a rotten in all this story.

  • Anonymous

    >>I don’t hate her but…<>You know, I want to feel bad for her but…<<

    No you don't. You love all this fuss and you love her fall from grace, like so many others on these boards, you all love that you now can all despise her openly and totally legit, because now she's proven to be a total fraud and hypocrite, right?

    I think there are some very strong and valid arguments in the article, but she forgets entirely that this whole bad-ass attitude may be due to extreme insecurity, an insecurity she might have struggled with throughout her childhood, and therefore may have used this dissociation of all this fame and adoration from complete strangers, to hide and protect herself.

    I don't think she's fake, but I do believe she's shy and insecure, which I think is reflected in almost all her interviews. She mutters, strains, staring down at the table, touching nervously at her hair, has trouble sitting still. All this shows to me a very insecure young woman who has trouble coming to terms with her ​​sudden fame.

    Thats why she's hiding behind the bad-ass attitude.

  • Que?

    7275 Pacific View Drive, Los Angeles, CA, United states <~ Overlook

  • Loveablescar

    I am gonna have to disagree to. I am 23 and i screw up all the time. But this is pushing it. Six people she is hurting. And to throw in the fact that they were all in the movies with her. Its just plain out heartbreaking. No one is punishing her. She just facing the consequences. And i am sure Rupert is as well just behind doors.

    @English Muffin This is just for you. I have been in the same position as well. But other way around. My mother cheated on my dad countless. It makes no sense how a person can back home or to their love ones and act normal when they we just out kissing on someone else.

  • andrea

    maybe David knows something more that us.

  • Que?

    I still don’t understand where the parking lot pictures were taken. I’m trying to find two walls where they car was parked.

  • So Delusional

    So delusional. Just one in a long line of excuses her inexcusable behavior. If the pics weren’t real, she wouldn’t have issued a public apology, duh.

    - She wouldn’t do that. This is all just rumors.
    - That pic getting tweeted is obviously Photoshopped.
    - He was at fault.
    - it was only “a mistake”
    - there’s no proof the relationship was sexual
    - she’s only 22
    - everyone is overreacting to this
    - nobody really cares about this in the world
    - it’s nobody’s business.
    - this is only going to help BD2 (which is funny because I thought nobody really cares and it was nobody’s business)

    Face it, she cheated, she lied, she has to deal with the consequences, that’s life.

  • smith

    he is the red headed man who was trying to get all over her at cannes? i remember seeing him chase after her and sling his arm around her shoulder when they went back to r & k’s hotel. I am in no way suggesting Kristen had anything going on with him but he definately was crushing on her. seems like its continuing. i remember the video of him walking over to rob when he got inside and rob walking right past to Kristen. i think she should be a bit wary of his motives, he seems a bit of a blabber mouth at the least

  • Yale

    EXACTLY HOW IS KRISTEN A HYPOCRITE? Does anyone REALLY KNOW what’s going on between her and Robert? Taking the whole thing at face value, here’s what we know…Kristen acted on impulse and kissed Sanders. She ACKNOWLEDGED her mistake and OWNED UP TO IT with what everyone is now calling as the “FASTEST ADMISSION and APOLOGY for cheating EVER” in the history of celebrities. Everyone hated her for apologizing because they think that she didn’t have to apologize and confirm the truth. Everyone, including Lainey and her lot who also berated her publicist for letting Kristen apologize. Yes, apologizing made all the allegations TRUE. But she apologized and proved that being HONEST ABOUT YOUR MISTAKES regardless of the consequences is the best way to show that you’re OWNING UP TO YOUR MISTAKES and are ready for whatever punishment awaites you. How is it fake to OWN UP TO YOUR MISTAKES and face all the hatred and judgement of everyone? People who hated her for admitting and aplogizing should examine themselves because it appears that IF THEY were the ones caught red-handed, they would probably DENY DENY DENY until they die. Kristen Stewart decided to admit the TRUTH and face her punishment. This is what sets her apart from you.

    TO LAINEY AND HER LOT…Calling Kristen a hypocrite when YOU DIDN’T want her to apologize and own up to her mistake is ironically what is truly hypocritical. Yes, Lainey and her lot are the true hypocrites here. And that long post of Lorella just proves the height of that hypocrisy.

  • Que?

    The pap must have been standing over that hill, maybe behind the tree between Pacific View Drive and Pacific View Trail? Otherwise how else would you get this shot? Hmmm…..

  • LadyK

    An quote is not different to any other worker who provides a service.

    McDonald’s advertise and run campaigns to promote their products. You go to the store, purchase your product and some person makes the product for you and you pay for it…. END OF TRANSACTION.

    Robert is an actor, he makes a movie, promotes it. You go to the theatre, purchase your ticket and you see it. END OF TRANSACTION.

    I know people expect more than that these days… Photos, autographs…. But Do not ever thin, that we are entitled to these… Any star that gives their time to do that is being generous.

  • Que?

    Does anyone know Rupert’s address? Is it close?

    Because at first I thought he walked there, but then I started thinking about Rob’s cap.

    I think she had it on, they hugged it out and then she remembered and went to put it back in the car, and then there is that photo of him walking towards her.

  • Dorian

    In the first place, Woody Allen never adopted SoonYi, only Mia did. He didn’t even live in the same building with Mia when they were married. They both had separate apartments of either side of Central Park, he never wanted to be around all of her adopted children, he couldn’t work with them around. He and SoonYi have been married for several years now and have their own child, so it wasn’t some sordid fling by the side of the road, unlike KStew’s bad behavior.

    It’s not a gender thing anyway, it’s a cheating thing. No one is dumping on Sanders because he’s an unknown. KStew is the highest paid actress in Hollywood this year, of course everything she does is going to be scrutinized. And she knew it. I think she was asking to get caught, I think she needs years of therapy because she’s one screwed up chick.

    And Jodie Foster has misplaced loyalty, she’s proved that before. It was truly cowardly the way she neglected to mention WHY KStew as getting attention now.

  • LadyK

    That was meant to say an actor* is no different…

  • Ma_mad_mom

    You are full of so much hate, and so much BS

  • Loveablescar

    They are saying what she has actually said in interviews makes her one. Which is pretty much true. But why is she apologizing to us? She shouldn’t have to. And its sad that she has. Also take caps lock off. Its childish.

  • Carli

    Poor BritBrit is not past that. She’s gearing up for a new disaster, just wait. Word is that Simon is regretting hiring her, she needs too much handholdng and has been a giant pain on the set. Also her engagement may never make it to the wedding stage, she’s not treating Jason very well and there’s only so much a person can take, no matter how much he loves her. He can’t save her, either.

    There’s a reason she’s still under a conservatorship. If she were safe and sane, she wouldn’t still have her dad running her career.

  • Kilvingtonsheila

    Ok how many here are perfect,never did anything wrong,made a mistake,did something purposely, the list goes,if your perfe t then you should be sainted, fact is the only ones that know anything are the ones it happened to! And their not talking. Yet! I believe nothing I read or hear from the rag mags or webloids, GC seems pretty relieable tho!I do thik Rupert Sanders is very creepy, what was she thinking i have wonder. I wish them well on there journey,hope Rob finds forgiveness for his own sake, if he forgives im pretty sure all the fans will also.

  • Harry

    don’t read an article about him if you are sick of him, simple really. of course Kristen didn’t kill anyone, no one said she did. but she did break a well loved mans heart by publically cheating him and then publically apologised putting it in the public domain. you forget but for these acts rob wouldn’t require defending. i am not judging her at all, we do all make mistakes but your defense of her saying she is young is further inciting anger against her.

  • Linda

    Love without trust is nothing. He can’t trust her and he’s too smart to go down that road again. Besides, he’s got 3 films lined up for the next year, he’s going to be too busy to solve all her problems. She needs a psychiatrist, not a boyfriend.

  • guest

    I really like this comment,you have hit the nail on the head. This is how i feel about her every-time i see her in interviews ,i always feel really bad for her. Ignorant people wont understand because they will say ‘shes a actress she should be use to it buy now’ or ‘if she cant handle it then she shouldn’t be an actress’

    I have said it from day one she is a young girl/women trying to fit into Hollywood but also trying to keep the girl before all the fame to.
    I think most of the bad ass act was her just protecting herself and trying to act like all the comments people made at her didn’t effect her and didn’t hurt her. And yeah it has come back to get her. But i don’t think shes fake,i think she is a real as you can get,she is learning and growing into a women.

  • Loveablescar

    Well she shouldn’t. We are not in high school. Not everyone is gonna like you or wanna watch you for great in life. You have to admit now. you can’t be weak in hollywood. They will eat you up. Like how they did with brittany spears. Also how dare you tell someone what they like or feel. Do you know anyone behind these comments? No.

  • Justice

    what the hell is wrong with you can’t a true friend give another friend a compliment and be it just that, they have to be crushing on them jeez I swear some of you
    need to grow up. I actually appreciate his kind words, he’s a brave and good
    friend it seems.

  • Twimom

    C´mom… I am a huge fan of Kristen and even I know the photos aren´t doctored. If this was the case, would she be hiding all this time? Would Rob (if it was him with her and not Rupert) let her be backlashed this way without saying anything in her defense? The fact is she cheated and so what? Are we all saints? No mistakes to regret? We need to let them deal with this in privacy. No external judgments regarding him (if he decides to take her back or not) or her.

  • Loveablescar

    Grammar and spelling please. Gossipcop isn’t always reliable. They take what the the pr says which isn’t always right. But People are gonna think what they what. Its crazy.

  • Kristen and Bear

    Kristen’s friend Lindsey jsut posted on her instangram a pic of bear on Kristen’s lap in her mini.

  • Loveablescar

    I agree with you to a point. She honestly seems like a fun person to hang out with. But her attitude stinks. There is no need to make rape comments or flip off people.

  • Anonymous

    according to Kristen’s friend Instagram Bear is with kristen

  • Loveablescar

    2728 Pacific View Trail is where the overlook. Lots of high schoolers go there.

  • Anonymous

    yup I smiled when I saw it, I couldn’t help it lol

  • Loveablescar

    Its 2728 Pacific View Trail… The one above is wrong.

  • Per

    So they didn’t debunk what tmz wrote and tmz said “single”

  • Loveablescar

    I think its the other way around. She has the cap and remembers than goes to the car.

  • MorganS

    Probably old pic

  • Cassie

    Or, well, we didn’t see Rob leave LA for his NY promotion and we haven’ seen Kristen either. It would be just like them to have worked things through and are now just letting the media buzz around them cause Robert did in no way look heartbroken or upset in any of his appearances in the last few days. But, it’s probably just my wishful dreams and vivid imagination.

  • Trudy

    He wanted his 15 mins.

  • Bluebot

    First of all, I blame Rob for this mess. How did he not realize his girlfriend was spreading her legs for older men. If you look at pics of her with her Welcome to the Rileys director, she’s awfully touchy and shameless. Even with her older fashion designer she’s seen so touchy with. So yeah, it’s his own fault.

  • insane

    this is insane!

  • Shiiela

    Lainey has always defended her, she finally took her rose colores glasses off and realized what the non blind fans see too.

  • Froen

    She doesn’t seem nice at all. Very snobby, rude and standoffish.

  • Sophia

    Yesterday Rob said: “Things fall apart when they are meant to fall apart.”

    I took that to mean he was done with all the circus and was moving on. I think everyone else should just live their lives and let him live his. He’s obviously doing well, he’s tan, he doesn’t have dark circles under his eyes, he’s smiling and laughing, he seems to be just fine.

  • Alexandra5785

    For real?? Wow… Maybe we don’t know what’s going on after all

  • guest

    isn’t it time for you to take your meds?

  • guest

    so kristen just took a pic of bear on her lap, and for the first time ever posted in on her friends instagram?

  • Caudice

    I don’t think Rupert took advantage of her. The only person in position of power on set was Kristen and this is straight from Chris Hemsworth’s mouth. What I found interesting was that Kristen always made Rupert change his scripts and lines and even tell him how to direct. She was literally the boss. She has a lot more power, access, money, and say than Rupert. I’m 100% sure she actually had Rupert by the balls because that’s the type of person she is. She totally wore the pants in her relationship with Rob too.

  • Loveablescar

    I’m touchy with my guy friends. What dose that say? So you saying that he should stalk her every move? What is really wrong with people? It’s Kristens and Ruperts. And they both stand by that.

    By the way you should be adding that it’s Liberty and her kids fault.

  • guest

    wait forget the fact that she has bear, no big deal. she still has the same car she got caught cheating in?! hahahahahahahah, yeah i’m sure rob just loves that car now.

  • Bunny

    While that area may not be rundown, it’s not a “nice” part of town, either. It’s zoned for light industrial use. Who wants to hang around and make out in the “industrial” part of town? And what difference does it make, anyway?

    She cheated, she lied, she got caught, we all know enough. Do we really need to dissect everything?

  • Loveablescar

    Really. I have never seen any of her friends do this. Dose anyone have the link…

  • Susie

    I think she had the cap on when she got out of car, then remembered she had it, went back to car to put back

  • Irony

    Kristen always seemed like such an a$$hole in real life so this doesn’t surprise me. She always came across so arrogant.

    Laughing at these quotes…

    “I have nothing to hide”
    “I’m not ashamed of anything”
    “I’m real”
    “I hate fake people”
    “I can’t stand actors who sell themselves”
    “I’m nothing like Marylou”

    Us Weekly was tipped off about the affair weeks before they set a pap to catch her secretly.

  • Sienna

    Tom was friends with Sienna long before she ever dated Jude Law or had any affairs. Rob’s longtime girlfriend Nina, the model was very close to Sienna and she introduced them back in 2005. They all hung out together a lot, so I’m sure Tom has no problem with Sienna, they were old friends long before they got together as a couple.

  • Fake

    Honestly lost my interest half way down her dribble. IMO just another hater
    with writing skills!

  • Loveablescar

    Well i have seen the picture. http://instagram.com/p/OZ3bujDj-e/
    But the picture looks like the person holding the dog took the picture…..

  • Sandra (Guest)

    Copy this adres 2094 South Centinela Avenue, Los Angeles, California, United States in google maps.You see a brown steel gate with a white brick wall with the number 2272 on it.
    The is also a big red sign with WS self storage next it.
    Hope this helps you

  • andrea

    always seeing something wrong!

    Can not be that just this guy, Danny Morgan, is a Kristen´s friend and knows what happens, that she´s sad for all the situation?

  • guest

    ……and you know because he told you?

  • Justice

    I recognize that lorella rant anywhere, she’s been posting in a lot
    of blogs bits of that long boring rant in response to other bloggers
    who are against the excessive hate against Kristen. She doesn’t
    like Kristen at ALL.

  • Her Circus

    Then why doesn’t little miss blabbermouth issue a statement saying she is no longer trying to pursue a relationship with anyone and is instead seeking treatment for unresolved emotional issues, cause she’s got a ton of them.

    She’s the one who’s never respected Rob’s plea for privacy, she’s the one who got herself into this situation now, and she’s the one who’s dragged him into her circus as well.

    It’s not his job to clean up HER mess.

  • Gary

    *insert foot in mouth*

    Too bad she’s not that real and ask fake as the rest of Hollywood.

  • Jamy

    So even if she eas spreading her legs, how is this his fault? Lol

  • word

    lol…so he should have known something was up by the way she gets cozy with gay fashion designers?

  • Rebecca

    LOL of course. 4 years of love totally disappears in an instant like that. Right. If he didn’t love her, they wouldn’t have stayed together so long. I don’t think he “loves her so much” because of Twilight. I think he loves her because “they’ve been together long enough to get over the initial infatuation and chemistry”. And what comes after that stage? Commitment, investment, ADULT love. Nothing fleeting or childish.

  • wishful thinking

    How do we know this is kristen? U can’t see anyones face.

  • word

    Actually, today’s friend article was a response to Lainey’s article defending Kristen yesterday.

  • To Wow

    I would LOVE to see a few tabloids get into a lawsuit, and lose just once!!!

  • Jenna

    In a few months when this all settles down, Kristen needs to go on Oprah (or someone like that) and fucking tell the truth! She needs to come clean with her relationship with Rob, whatever it was, and admit she made a mistake with Rupert. Come fucking clean! I bet then she’ll get the sympathy from everone, they’ll forgive her, she’ll have redeemed herself, and she will go on with her career. This constant lying and deceiving is digging her deeper. Just COME CLEAN! People will respect her for it and forgive her for her “mistake”. It’ll show maturity and that she’s not a bitch and has feelings. You’d think her team would realize this.

  • one who knows

    there is no setting on “trail” that matches, and the road is much more narrow and populated with homes. it is “drive” take a second look.

  • To Love2309

    Did Rupert forget HE was married?!
    They are both at fault….
    hate the sin, and not the sinners.

  • Loveablescar

    Exactly. And Lindsey has a lot of dogs sooo.

  • Maybe

    Maybe she seduced him and talked him up, promised to make his career bigger, that he was thr kmly one . You never know. So many theories. Maybe.

  • andrea

    backwards … she leaves the car with some papers … she goes to meet Rupert … he is talking on the phone, I think … they are huging … and then are some pictures with Rob’s cap .

    Why fetching Rob´cap when she´s with an another man?

  • granny

    Something still does not seem right. How come no one has seen Kristen. They can get a picture of her 2 miles away but not one picture of her now. Maybe she is hiding for another reason like maybe she really is pregnant and she needs her rest and it was just a set up so she could. Rob has not said anything about the two of them breaking up. I know its a long shot but you just never know

  • Sandra (Guest)

    I posted this in a reply to twilighter’s The Grand Punk- Part 5 yesterday. It is a picture of the parking lot posted on twitter.

    http://twitpic.com/ai4wxh/full

  • Sorry but…

    Respectfully Disagree. I agree more with Jodie Foster on this one. But IMO
    You can be a 22 year old and be very mature in certain areas in your life and be
    very immature in other areas of your life. It depends on what you’ve been
    more exposed to. I Can totally see a 22 year old girl in a 4 year relationship with
    little experience regarding men, falling for a man she’s had to be close to for almost
    half a year. A very impressive man at best too, he’s no truck driver.

    Regarding their relationship, it was doomed to fail, those long distance relationships
    mostly fall prey to this kind of situation at that age too. Sad.

  • To Cassie

    He doesn’t look weak at all.
    And IF he chose to go back with her he wouldn’t be weak for doing that either.

    Although maybe there is a reason she felt the need to cheat.
    Maybe Rob wasn’t as good as everyone dreams he is.

  • Yale

    What quotes? Give me a quote from Kristen that doesn’t advocate honesty and owning up to one’s mistakes and being herself? In spite of the insistence of Twilight fans that the photos were fake and photoshopped, Kristen braved an admission and confirmation to her mistake. She owned up to it, blaming NO ONE BUT HERSELF and APOLOGIZED for it. How is she hypocritical when she admitted the truth and did exactly what she has always been doing when she’s wrong. She apologized. Kristen has never been the type to pass the blame on anyone. When she likened being hounded by the papparazzi as being raped and was called out for it, she immediately issued an apology without blaming anyone but herself. She did the same here.

    Lainey and her lot, on the other hand, attacked her apology in several different ways and berated her publicist for letting her do it. Isn’t that the height of hypocricy right there? They’re showing their true colors that if they were the ones in Kristen’s situation, they would probably DENY it to death and yet here they are calling Kristen a hypocrite when she does what she always does when she commits a wrongdoing–she apologizes and blames no one. It’s what she has always advocated–honesty.

    It’s obvious that the whole point of this Lorella (friend of Lainey) character is that Kristen hurt Pattinson. She’s calling Kristen for supposedly lying to Pattinson. Really? Does Lorella know exactly what’s going on between Rob and Kristen? Please. She’s exactly like those haters that are attacking Kristen now because they think no one, NO ONE, should ever cheat on the his Royal Sparkles, Mr. Robert Pattinson. Well, it happened. Kristen cheated on him and she has apologized for it. Lorella and anyone else claiming that they know more about these two people are delusional.

  • Jenna

    You know, it’s ok if she says she and Rob just grew apart, or they were together but weren’t recently, that she fell in love with the director, or was in lust. There’s a saying “What a tangled web we weave when first we set out to deceive”. It’s so true, lies and deceit will catch up with you every time! But again, we’re dealing with HW here and they have no morals or integrity whatsoever.

  • To Guest11

    Because people out there STILL believe the same rumors tabloids are STILL writing.
    There all the same just a few words get twisted around.

  • Darleneb

    how do you know that they are still not together!!

  • Robstenadditted

    I have come to Kristen defence many times but it’s not the cheating that I am willing to defend but the young woman herself. I happen to believe in Kristen and like her movies very much, so I spend my money willingly to see her movie not like these people that are force to see her movies when they don’t like her (lol). But I also like Robert’s movies very much and have seen them all.

    What I don’t understand is how someone can walk into a theater and kill 11 people, or walk into a school and killed multiple people and they don’t get half the flack that Kristen has, in fact I doubt they talk have as much about something like that as THE KISS. And all that has been proved with her is that she Kissed a married man. Think people and try to be realistic.

    And as far as Rob speaking up for Kristen, I have alway hope he would, even if I knew that he shouldn’t. It would only add fuel to the fire if he tried to speak up for her because everyone would twist his words around to mean anything they wanted. And I don’t think his agent would allow it anyway. If I am upset about anything in this area, it’s that I think Rob is letting his agent rule his actions instead of his heart. But maybe that is a good thing! So I have some real mixed feeling on this and don’t know exactly where I stand on Rob staying quiet about everything.

    I feel really bad for Kristen because of these “people” keep saying what a bad actress she is and that she is just riding on Rpattz popularity. But without Kristen there would not have been a rpattz. She is the one who fought for him in twilight. People wrote in hate letters because they didn’t want Robert in the role of Edward, Kristen stood her ground and said it had to be him. So as far as I am concerned Robert wouldn’t be where he is if Kristen had not spoke up for him .

    I just know I am tired of the Kristen bashing. If you want to tear someone down, then go to the real headlines and you can find all kind of headlines that could use a word or two.

  • Jennyg38

    Their real friends won’t talk and good on them that’s what makes them friends

  • Olivia

    Rupert too! Everyone always says, “She.”
    I am sure Rupert remembered he is a married man.
    I hate the sin, and not the sinner.

  • Kilvingtonsheila

    Yes tapping away on this tablet can be a pain so its not as perfect as i’d wish, sorry! Right people will believe what they want and read into it what they will.

  • Anonymous

    that’s Bear, no doubt, same blue collar that Bear had when Kristen took him out

  • PLL

    Well hate to tell you this but they’re not broken up. Rob’s hasn’t been staying a reese’s house, but somewhere that would piss off nonstens and nonberts. Gee i wonder were Bear is ?? hahaha

  • andrea

    I tried to put some pics toproove it but GC tell me that they must to approve my comments!!!

  • Trying to answer you…

    I am sure they have talked, and maybe are talking now.
    Not like all the time, but I am sure there are texts, and a few calls here, and there.
    NO ONE knows for sure who was asked to leave.

  • Loveablescar

    How do you know that’s the dog? And Pretty sure Rob is still in New York right now.

  • the fan girls are losing it

    Ummmm, that can be any car and any person. The fan girl delusions are on an all time high. Either everyone is pms’ing or there is a full moon tonight

  • Anna

    I’m shocked! You know Kristen so well! Are you her friend? Were you on SWATH set? Have you talked to Chris H.? If your answer is no for some of my questions, shut up!

  • Jennyg38

    We don’t even know if anyone asked the other to leave

  • one who knows

    Doesn’t anyone question the validity of anything? We have no facts about any of this. Just some vague pics (with both of them looking into the camera) and alot jumbled statements. HW paints pictures of what they want us to see and the suggestiveness of their statements is all they need to get people jumping to conclucions. Too many discrepancies in the stories and timelines, old photos, staged photos….R & K are doing what they have always done–staying out of sight and keeping mum.

  • biased

    well if this person is her friend we might get a similar post from
    Lainey next. don’t look forward to any defense from Lainey for
    Kristen. all hope is lost if this is how her friend feels, her dislike
    for Kristen jumps out immediately. I actually liked how Lainey
    wrote about Rob and came to his defense it was nice even kinda
    sweet, aghh! lol

  • Sandy

    Pretty sure that if someone had called her only 22 and just a child a month ago, she would have punched them in the face. If an older man would have tried to force himself on her, she would have cut his balls off. And I’m pretty sure if Rob Pattibson would have cheated on her, she would have cut his balls off, fried them, and have fed then to Bear already.

  • jr?

    Pregnant by whom?

  • to trouble with harry

    Rob is bringing into this because he actually IS apart of this.
    Four people are!

    We don’t know… there could be a reason she felt the need to stray from him.

  • andrea

    Look at these pics

    1º she leaves from the car.
    R seams calling
    http://i50.tinypic.com/8x06qw.jpg

    http://i47.tinypic.com/14w9m3c.jpg

    2º together without cap
    http://i46.tinypic.com/dceop5.jpg

    3º together and miracle there is a cap
    in my opinion the hug seams friendship
    http://i45.tinypic.com/28kh7rt.jpg

  • Deb

    Some one said this , this morning on the other post about Rob. Makes sense.

  • one who knows

    Something, MANY things, are not right. The facts and photos don’t add up. People do too much assuming…..things are never as they appear.

  • really?

    Okay so a picture of a dog comes and people are freaking out about it?

  • Anonymous

    OMG It’s Bear!! you can google it LOL

  • really?

    How would you know anything? Gosh your delusional.

  • Visa

    Day 22 of VAMPGATE and the villagers are getting restless

  • really?

    Your delusional. Who cares. Its a fucking dog.

  • Dexter

    We have 50 pictures which were never “debunked” by either side. Press release by KS, RS, Bill Condon and Summit.

    I still don’t know what anyone would get out of staged anything, look at the fallout. Nothing gained, lots lost.

    Sometimes a spade is a spade.

  • Anonymous

    it’s ROB’s dog, so if a Kristen’s friend posted a pic of him it means something, right??

  • troll

    Another “insider” looking for their 10 seconds of fame.

  • andrea

    one who knows,

    Totally agree with you

    Look these pics, almost in orden… about the cap

    1º she leaves from the car.
    R seams calling
    http://i50.tinypic.com/8x06qw….

    http://i47.tinypic.com/14w9m3c...

    2º together without cap
    http://i46.tinypic.com/dceop5….

    3º together and miracle there is a cap
    in my opinion the hug seams friendship
    http://i45.tinypic.com/28kh7rt...

    maybe silly but why is disturbing to the car and looking for the cat?

    It´s not my problem the whole thing but not everything is as simple … something strange there .. but what?

  • guest

    This sorta sounds like something I read on IMDB on Kristen’s page in the message boards. The Paps really blew things out of proportion didn’t they?

  • PLL

    exactly would you let your “ex-girlfriends” best friend watch your dog when your away? when your assistant (jeff ) can do it.

  • really?

    Why the fuck do you people care if it means something or not? Wait can someone sane tell me if its the crazies talking or what?

  • HG

    I totally agree with you rebecca,having seen them up close at several award shows,there is no way they can stay away fro each other,if they move on they will come back together eventually,no one can fake chemistry like that in real life its not because of edward and bella.the fact is it was rupert she was with not rob,you cant doctor that many photos,but they werent that bad and she did realize what a mistake it was,if you look better hes the groper and perv who will say anything to her,he did say in an interview shes mesmerizing and fiesty,hes 41 married and more experienced in life,she has had 2 real boyfriends since 15 so people need to get a life and concentrate on real sexual scandals like brangelinas and sickos who you can truely say was not a mistake like woody allen marrying his daughter,clinton screwing lewinski and ashton having oragies behind demis back the list goes on people!

  • lol

    So true

  • andrea

    I also find it strange that before the affair every day we could see Kristen and from the TCA nothing .. Rob volatilized as before … where the paparazzi are supposed to? Since when does a famous escape from them LOL??

  • guest

    lol. i don’t understand what the big deal is about the bear pic. it could be old, it could she is watching bear. it doesn’t mean they are together. she is not living with him anymore, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t working on things. i think some fans really need to take a chill pill.

  • Que?

    From what I can tell, she got off the car with cap, remembered and went to put it back in car. After looking at pics a bit more and w twilighters theories, it looks to me she picked him up at work. Look the the building and them driving away and she has on cap.

  • andrea

    wooow do you so much from her???

    Do you know Rob and Kristen in private??

    Do not assume things we can not demonstrate!!

  • Morons

    “Hey can you please pick up my dog, i have this jubket in nyc and you know what I’m going through, cam you do me a favor?”

    Duh, idiots!

  • guest

    not really. she has called bear her baby, so he means a lot to her. rob has shown this week, that he is not a nasty bastard. sure he would be ok with her watching bear.

  • guest

    Don’t see a dog. Post a pic. Looney.

  • andrea

    I can see kristen left from the car without the cap.

    And one thing more, why did the paparazzi suppose that Kristen receive a Rupert´s call?? May be her mother, cousin, Rob, etc…

    The paparazzi have got a sistem to listen the calls??

  • andrea

    I´ve a lot of doubts…

  • really?

    I agree. Like take a few seconds and just chill. and think about what you are saying

  • Que?

    From what I can tell she went to pick him up at work, and maybe never went to gym. They drove over 20 miles, to find a more romantic place. The hat, she had on when she got out and then went to put it back in car.

  • guest

    Rupert or take you pick.

  • Jennyg38

    I think that she’s looking after the dog and that they’re not living together but they are still together working things out so agree with ya there

  • Helping you

    Rob and Kristen are still living together, in her Malibu house. It is in a private road, and paps can’t camp there. Rob left NYV yesterday and he is already in LA now. The pic of Bear and Kristen is a clear signal, just like “my boyfriend is english” was last year and the Rob pic on her ipod 2 years ago.

  • lola

    I actually agree with this. They don’t have to talk about the incident, necessarily, but being purposely cryptic just makes people rabid. The paps are going to be all over them trying to get pics of them together or alone. It’s basically like like 2009 all over again.

  • Eddy

    Damn delusional chicks losing it.

  • really?

    Take a chill pill.

  • Cara

    I would hope that Tom has no problem with Sienna, considering they have a kid. I don’t think that was the orignial question though…I believe guest question was wondering what Sienna thinks of Kristen considering she has been in her shoes…..

  • guest

    To little to late.

  • lola

    Exactly. Perhaps at least admitting to being in a relationship or breaking up, or not breaking up, would make THEIR lives easier. IDK.

  • Que?

    No they aren’t the cops. But I do think he called her to pick him up at work. That’s what it looks like.

  • guest

    All lies.

  • guest

    lmao. kristen’s friends are such famewhores. today tom said he is not going to talk about his friends behind their back. kristens friends posted a pic of bear.

  • really?

    How do you know so well? How do you know that was her in the picture? How do you know you that she just not taking care of the dog?
    Gosh that’s what half of you sound like.

  • Eddy

    Because these chicks think its a sign they are together. Bunch of hormonal freaks…

  • guest

    You are funny.

  • Stephbrown2422

    Curious to who this friend is?

  • andrea

    How does the theme of the press releases of famous American magazines?

    I’m in Madrid then obviously the magazines (People, OK, US weekly) are not here. A question to those who have bought the magazine … Was there a sample of the statement sent by fax or email who proove that Kristen or Rupert send it?

    I say this because in Spain, the press is also very fucked up, almost similar to the English medias, when a famous sent a statement through a lawyer or agent, the magazine always puts the photograph or photocopy of the statement to proove the confirmation, denial or clarification made by the famous.

  • Helping you

    They will let us know they are still together only after Cosmopolis is done. Right now this scandal is helping it and nonstens would be pissed, so they are waiting for now, but at the end of august they will be out together some night and so before TIFF everybody will know they are still a couple.

  • lola

    Dear Gossip Cop: Please start moderating comments? Pretty please? If not, I fear your site will become the new AT, which was a minefield of defamatory comments.

  • really?

    You need to stop dude. Trying help you out now. Why do you care so much in a relationship that your not in?

  • lola

    Of course we don’t. lol.

  • guest

    Brilliant!

  • Diyusy

    You can’t see anyone’s face or the type of car and all of a sudden its kristen and the dog in a mini. Kids getting high is really bad for you.

  • lola

    No, Lindsay took the pic, and Bear is on her lap. Could be an old pic, but she still had a reason for posting it. She’s since deleted it.

  • really?

    Surprised you know what that word meant.

  • Ariasd

    Yeah, Tanned Rob was a give away.

  • mls8662

    I am a Kristen fan and I am a Rob fan. I guess you could say I’m one of the very small percentage of Rob fans who are actually sane, Unless you are Kristen, you have no idea why she owned up to what she’d done. You don’t know anything more than what you’ve read on gossip sites and in tabloids. In other words you don’t have any idea what’s really going on, just like the rest of us. Unless you are Rob, you don’t know what he thinks, feels or what he may or may not do. I am fan of his and I want you no where near him, you’re the one that’s toxic.

  • andrea

    if it´s true, very good for them and I wish the best for them..

    But if it was like you say all the paparazzi was talking with the magazines to say the that they are together but imposible to take pics.

  • Diyusy

    Seriously , you need to step away from pc. Please go read a book, or play in the yard , you sound delusional too.

  • Jennyg38

    Agreed there are some awful and hurtful comments on here

  • really?

    Can you please reread what you just typed. Than i want you to relevant your life and your life choices.

  • Jennyg38

    Agreed

  • Stephbrown2422

    Someone post a link so we can see the pic, I can’t find it

  • Diyusy

    Forget defamatory comments, some people here are in dire need of evaluation for mental health issues.

  • andrea

    some lovers do not behave as clear as they gather to work … they could be seen on any occasion, business meeting, etc … there are things that do not match.

    Only I want to understand… a very private person like Kristen during a lot of years can´t act as a teen in daylight.

  • Lvt

    It’s called spray tan.

  • Lvt

    There would be photos, the paps may not be able to camp but they are in the area circling like vultures. A pic is going for over $5k . So posting Crap from the stories you are making up in your head.

  • really?

    I will second this!

  • andrea

    sorry but only in the united states the famous go to a TV show and crying, jumping in a sofa or said sorry.

    The people do not must to give explains and overcoat in TV like a reality show.

  • Guest

    I agree with the people that have said something is not right. Something is definitely off and just flat out bizzare about the whole situation. Does anyone else remember an interview a few months back I think at Cannes where Rob said he and Kristen were writing a script together? Seems like a great script to me!

  • mls8662

    I doubt that she wants him to solve all her problems. Are you a board certified mental health specialist? You don’t know her and you don’t know him. You have no idea what they think, feel or need.

  • guest

    Too late this is already the Awful Truth part 2. The mental patients have found a new home.

  • Que?

    People es repudiable para esto. Ellos son casi siempre quienes lo hacen. Si fuera Mentira hace tiempo Que el campo de kristen lo hubiera dicho

  • guest222

    No one forced you to look at their pictures.

  • word

    lmao at your post.

  • mls8662

    The tabloids will never shut the hell up!

  • guest

    I don’t think he is the spray tan type

  • guest

    jmo, i believe that she cheated, because either she was bored or wanted a thrill. i also think she is truly sorry, and doesn’t want to loose rob. i also think that her and rob are on a break. that doesn’t mean she can’t see bear, that doesn’t mean she and he aren’t talking.

  • rv2

    Nervous breakdown 3 2 1

  • so far ive learned that

    So kristen is pregnant with ruperts baby , but Rob forgave her and they are living together in malibu while riding around with bear picking out car seats…..

    Who needs to read books when you have this hot mess.

  • really?

    How would you know? Fucking weird.

  • ned

    She wouldnt risk her career, reputation and agree to get this trashed . Sorry.

  • really?

    hahaha i love how this is so true. This forum right here is great entertainment.

  • Rob and Kristen forever

    lol the haters are going ape sh8t because a friend of Kristens postd a pic of her with bear.!

  • MAC

    Considering he has lost about 10 lbs and had bags under his eyes, yes you would use it to give hom color, or add bronzer to face

  • really?

    Plus Liberty agreed to be publicly embarrassed. Duh it happens all the time. :/ People these days

  • Robstenadditted

    I sorry to disagree with you, come to think of it I really not sorry at all. But kristen has always taken a active part it getting the sence right. Rob has said this many times. she would feel something was off so would demand to redo the scene. That is called dedication folks not power over the director

  • andrea

    or maybe Kristen didn´t to confirm or denye but to be quiet as always about her private life.

    I do not know nothing as why I´m here to try to understand.

  • rv2

    Rob is not going anywhere. He is going to have his Stew babies come hell or high water. My kind of man.

  • really?

    … Where the hell did this come from?

  • MAC

    I have laughed so hard, I have tears. I think there is a full moon tonight.

  • Post the pic please…

    Can someone please post a link to the instagram pic?

  • Jennyg38

    I think they are together just taking things slow, it takes time to get back to where you were when something like this happens. That’s my opinion anyway as that’s how it happened for me

  • really?

    ohhh you guys are out early. What the hell is sh8t? I am sorry but your statement is invalid since you cant spell worth shit.

  • rv2

    I can’t wait to see my baby on Sept 6. She is going to be gorgeous! I am so excited.The world is going to be watching. The return of Queen Kristen!

  • guest

    This is so crazy about the MTV awards. For at least two weeks it has been printed that the two of them were due to present at show. AND now it is being said there won’t be a potential run-in!! What a crazy flip flop of info!!

  • MAC

    Tell them to come here so we can throw them a joint babyshower. We can raffle tickets as to gets to babysit the love child when they have to travel. We can throw the dog in too! Rotf

  • mls8662

    Kristen is not plain and Rob is not Edward Cullen.

  • really?

    Commenting two in a row? *Slow claps*

  • rv2

    replying two in a row? *very slow claps*

  • really?

    hahaha i am dying right now. Thats funny.

  • rv2

    a source

  • really?

    Yea will you’re funny. And i am bored so i will entertain myself with your childish nonsense.

  • really?

    Who? You? ahahhaha Please. I am dying of laughter right now

  • robsten-fan-nz

    “If you didn’t see it with your own eyes or hear it with your own ears, don’t invent it with your small mind & share it with your big mouth.” – Robert Downey Jnr.

  • rv2

    Yeah a new friend!

  • rv2

    Sorry sources are never revealed.

  • Tammy

    You’re late, that was yesterday’s news, catch up ;)

  • really?

    haha yea because there is none. This is sooo funny.

  • really?

    More a bully or a therapist.

  • MAC

    @really – Seriously, this is the best thing … Well since… I’m not sure what to even compare it to, but it’s damn hysterical.

  • Functionally Literate

    God please let this crazy nonsense go on until the new tv shows start in September. I am busting a gut I’m laughing so hard!

  • mls8662

    Robert and Kristen are the only ones who can decide what comes next. I just hope they can do that with out any interference from family,friends or management. They are the ones who know what they really want.

  • really?

    But we saw the pictures….

  • really?

    Psht you and me both. Its kinda though that so many people are making up their own sources.

  • Tammy

    “Sources confirm that Bear has been out and about in L.A. today, he was without a leash and trying to hitch a ride to Iowa. It is believed that he is unhappy with his current contract, as he is not given enough treats to put up with the fangirls. We will continue to monitor the situation should Bear arrive in Iowa. If that is the case, our experts believe that he may have the fangirl swing the votes for the Iowa caucuses. We will keep you updated as more information becomes available.” –

    Disclaimer – This is a creation of fiction and intended for entertainment purposes, nothing I say is true and no to be construed as such.

  • Boo

    Yes we saw all 50 pics with our own eyes.

  • Sandra (Guest)

    It is 7275 Pacific View Drive, Los Angeles, CA, United states.
    This is the exact place where they were standing by the bush and fence. The Pacific View Trail you are talking about is to right of the house (nr 7267) on the corner, while the fence is to the left (standing face to the house). Also look at the bleu street sign, it clearly says pacific view drive.

  • Tammy

    “Update – At this time we have conflicting stories, Bear may have been spotted at Babies R’ Us. He was seen jumping and licking the cabage patch doll sections. We will bring you the latest as to Bear’s newest plastic obsession. “

  • really?

    :) hahaha Did you come up this? Cause its really funny

  • TAMMY

    @boo & @really – THOSE WERE PHOTOSHOPPED!!! THAT WAS REALLY SNOOPY!!! YOU GUYS ARE SUCH HATERZ!! THOSE WEREN’T REAL!!!

  • really?

    I know!!! Like i know you should ignore them or whatever but its just sooo funny. Like ahhh. There needs to be a book with all their comments. I would die.

  • Tammy

    Yes! ;)

  • really?

    Thank you for being logic.

  • http://twitter.com/RobSupporter1 RobSupporter1

    I understand your point of view. And I respect it. I felt that way a few weeks ago, but I am just really sick of the hate. I think that Kristen deserves forgviness and a second chance. Kristen has lost Rob and her career. I just wish the girl well.

  • Tammy

    “Update – Bear was apparently spotted at the Iowa Caucuses. The photographers were able to obtain 49 pictures of Bear in compromising positions. At this time, it is assumed he was with Snoopy and the Peanut Gang. Unfortunately, as Bear is allergic to Peanuts, Snoopy has broken his 62 year friendship with Lucy, Sally, Linus and Charlie.”

    “Our sources have confirmed that Snoopy has had a face lift. At 62 year’s old, he still retains his animated features and doesn’t look a day over 2. Dr. Charles M. Schulz, is the mastermind behind this surgery. We reached out to his office for comment and are still waiting for confirmation.”

  • Bluez

    “Rob and Kristen are still living together.” “Rob and Kristen are still together.”
    I want to know what are you all drinking. I also want to drink this Kool Aid. This is the type of delusion I would like to experience for once in my life and forget all reality before I die.

  • Tammy

    @Really – Dude, this is awesome! I love it!

  • Jennyg38

    Well said

  • http://twitter.com/RobSupporter1 RobSupporter1

    That is where I am getting at. I believe in forgviness and second chances.

  • guest

    Lol. Makes as much sense as all the other craziness.

  • BearlyImportant

    Yes! A documentary on the media and how far people will go… That crossed my mind! :)

  • Ming

    What if Kristen really fell in love with Rupet? She really seemed into him. I don’t hate her because I think she really got into Rupert. She should be happy.

  • really?

    This is beautiful. 49 pictures ha ha ahhahaa

  • Tammy

    Are you her loyal subject?

  • really?

    Hey if you get your hands on some can you uh share with me? ahahah

  • guest

    lmao. what is kristen the queen of?

  • guest

    You forgot about Bear going to Iowa and being spotted at Babies R Us looking at Cabbage Patch Dolls.

  • rv2

    Yes.

  • Jenesus

    PHOTOSHOPPED? You do realize Kristen publicly apologized right? She could have sued if the pics were fake!

  • Stephbrown2422

    Saw the pic…it definately looks like Bear..However you can’t see who is holding it, or what kind of car they are in. However, I find it odd she would post it, almost like she is trying to tell people something..who knows because she has since took it down.

  • really?

    hahahah she was just joking. Look above post. She is pretending to be the crazies.

  • rv2

    Queen of our hearts and our time because we spend hours and hours of lives talking about her. Long live the Queen!

  • really?

    hahaha you really need medication don’t you? I pray for you.

  • one who knows

    and only believe half of what you see and none of what you hear

  • Tammy

    It’s like the matrix’s red pill or blue pill but in liquid form

  • guest

    It was there, but the friend has since removed it. However I did find it when googling…although it does look like Bear…you can’t see the person whose lap he is sitting on

  • Guest

    Then she should have broken up with Rob. She was living with Rob. She hooked up with Rupert on a public street and then went and acted the girlfriend to Rob at an awards show. Have respect for your significant other–she publically humiliated Rob.

  • Tim

    I’m also predicting that you will never see another newly taken pic of the two of them together ever again, except from film clips from BD2.

  • Guest

    And in color

  • Jane

    and you all thought these fans had to have all accepted it was true by now. lol nope!

  • one who knows

    And a pic of Bear is important….why????

  • lulu

    You don’t know Malibu then because parking is almost non-existent and it’s not easy to hang out there unless you’re a resident.

  • one who knows

    there is no picture of Bear and Kristen….do you SEE kristen? NO. Another fabrication.

  • Guest

    1-Picking out in appropriate hook up places to meet up with your married director of 2.
    2-Lying to your boyfriend while screwing your director on a public street not to far from the house you share with the boyfriend you say you love
    3-faking that you love your boyfriend, are a good friend to your directors wife and their kids while screwing her husband and their father on a public street
    4-becoming a hollywood cliche

  • really?

    ahhahaha thats sooo sad. Like i actually feel sorry for you…. nahh just embarrassment.

  • rv2

    Thanks new friend prayers are sweet.

  • Tammy

    @rv2 – I shall knight you and dub you queenie r2d2

  • Guest

    Voices in their head

  • Anonymous

    Oh I know Rupert is as much to blame as Kristen. They were both willing to do the cheating. But I’m sorry, I don’t agree with the whole ‘hate the sin not the sinner’ rubbish. That just takes away responsibility from the person doing it, when in fact it is all their own fault. By that logic, if someone were to kill someone I love (cheating is no where near as extreme as this, I know, but I’m just using this as an example), then I shouldn’t hate the murderer for something they chose to do, but rather the ‘sin’ of murder. Sorry, I don’t accept that, people need to face the consequences of their actions.

  • Tammy

    “Sadness has descended over the Bear’s fangirls today. Sadly, it was revealed today that Bear is not really a bear, rather he is a DOG. Fangirls everywhere threw to the streets to protest this revelation! We can confirm that dog treats and purina were spilled onto the pavement, cars and houses. Along with signs and chants debating the merits of dog vs. bear. We will continue to monitor the situation and the debate with regard to the Circle of Life”

  • Tammy

    @Guest – that’s a whole lotta things to be queen of… Tough job, but someone’s gotta do it, right?

  • Guest

    You know what feels wrong in the whole situation? Some Kristen fans who can’t get it through their heads that she is the direct opposite of the persona she sold to you. She lies and cheats and is fake. She is a hypocrite who screwed a friends husband in a public steet. Probably so sure she was not going to get caught or just so horny she didn’t care. They are both just sorry they got caught otherwise they both would still be cheating. I have no pity for Kristen or Rupert- the should no respect to those they say the love–they screwed each other in the street near the house Rob shared with Kristen. Th backlash should make them squirm–She thinks it’s unfair–what’s unfair is that if they weren’t caught Kristen would still be sleeping with her friends husband and cheating on Rob.

  • rv2

    I knew you would be a good friend, so compassionate and caring.

  • guest

    lmao. from the way her pr team is going, and she apology. no

  • rv2

    Aww! Thank you!

  • Tammy

    @Jenesus – OMG, That’s nuts, that was her crazy twin that does all those Youtube videos pretending to be her after the aliens took over her body, who released that.

  • one who knows

    People often create diversions so that everyone will look in the wrong direction. That’s what seems to be happening with all of this. We have been distracted from anything that may be really going on, and lead to look in the direction of a possible “indescretion” and confusing inconsistant information, when all along the real truth may be going on BEHIND the camera.

  • guest

    hahahahahaha. something tells me you don’t outside a lot.

  • Tammy

    That’s his babyshower gift! ROTF

  • one who knows

    and a pic of bear would prove what?

  • really?

    DUHH!! and now Kristen is being a great sister and taking the blame. Real trooper.

  • Guest

    I can’t think of two better people for each other. They both prefer sex on the street (we know Rupert likes to go into his underware to adjust himself in public places- I suppose this probably turns Kristen on as she was there with Charlize when he went all in). They both cheat on their significant others. They both lie to their significant others as their affair was ongoing so I’m sure a lot of excuses to cover up their tryst were doled out to cover their lying cheating asses. She has daddy issues having sex with men who she works for and are double her age-he likes young women who dont’ put up a fight.

  • rv2

    It is funny, I have the same feeling about you. I guess that is why we have bonded.

  • really?

    Aww thanks you know me so well. I am sure you would be a great roommate in the nut house.

  • really?

    At least you admit you need help.

  • really?

    :O I am shocked.

  • Tammy

    “We have reports that KoolAid, known as KA, has sold out on its debut day. It is said that once you drink it see into parallel realities.

    Additionally, it has been called the Delorean of juices. No need for the flux capacitor, as the ingredients naturally reform the space time continuum.

    It is not available in pill form, as it is usually swallowed by over anxious children, teenagers and some adults. Since it comes in Grape, Orange and Strawberry flavors it is easier to swallow. We will continue to monitor the KA situation and will advise our readers when they will be on sale again. Until then live long and prosper.”

  • rv2

    @really. Thanks.Do you want the top or the bottom bunk?

  • sheenspr

    Dude, it is inside her car and that pic was posted today by one of her closest friends. Imdb is having a cow because they have realized what some of us here picked up. Cronenberg gaves us the biggest hint. When the entire world was trending with the end of Robsten, he gaves us the biggest hint. Rob also mentioned the fact that his agent gave him advise but he chooses to ignore it. I knew something was up. It was a brain fart just like people have stolen private pics before. It happens, this fandom has connections big enough to get a hold of Summit’s movie footage.

  • Tammy

    “We have reports that KoolAid, known as KA, has sold out on its debut day. It is said that once you drink it see into parallel realities.

    Additionally, it has been called the Delorean of juices. No need for the flux capacitor, as the ingredients naturally reform the space time continuum.

    It is not available in pill form, as it is usually swallowed by over anxious children, teenagers and some adults. Since it comes in Grape, Orange and Strawberry flavors it is easier to swallow. We will continue to monitor the KA situation and will advise our readers when they will be on sale again. Until then live long and prosper.”

  • Minijenny

    I just pray that if they do get back together, that they learn to trust one another and learn to be faithful. If they do not reconcile, I sure do pray that their is not a grudge between the two. They are very involved in each other’s lives, with the franchise and of course, their relationship. I pray the same for Rupert and Liberty. All four of them are talented at what they do. I just want things to get better for them, not worse. Anyone else feel the same?

  • rv2

    @ really? Don’t we all?

  • SHOCKING !!! NEWS

    “Sadness has descended over the Bear’s fangirls today. Sadly, it was revealed today that Bear is not really a bear, rather he is a DOG. Fangirls everywhere threw to the streets to protest this revelation! We can confirm that dog treats and purina were spilled onto the pavement, cars and houses. Along with signs and chants debating the merits of dog vs. bear. We will continue to monitor the situation and the debate with regard to the Circle of Life”

  • Sobs

    OMG, Bear isn’t a bear! He’s a dog!!

  • Glowgenie

    Bravo to you ! I also like and respect Kristen Stewart and Rob Pattinson as the two very talented people they are . Twilight may be how I got to know them, but I like for who they are.

  • guest

    I was just going to type almost the exact same thing. Lived there for 3 years…parking is awful!

  • really?

    Okay i am gonna do serious talk for a second. I am with you 100 percent. They should do what feels right to them. They shouldn’t get back together just because if there is major trust issues going on. About Rupert and Liberty i hope they can work something out for the stake of their kids. Not saying getting back together but at least be civil with each other.

  • really?

    Man i really wanted to try some ;)

  • Guest

    I didn’t see the pics of her “screwing” anyone.

  • Delusional

    Seriously? The inside of HER car? You guys realize that there are thousands of cars and the interiors all look almost alike? You freaks are insane.

  • Holy

    The advise was probably to ask the reporters NOT TO BRING UP KS.

  • BUT

    YOU CAN’T SEE ANYONE’S FACE???

  • Jennyg38

    I agree with you, I do think they are so one with each others lives I think they’ll find a way through it. It was just a few kisses and that can be forgiven, they just need to talk and figure out what they both want.

  • guest

    yawn. that pic was posted today. doesn’t mean it’s new. i think the robsten, nonstens, and nonberts need to calm down already.

  • guest

    I don’t know Kristen is so like to act these slut show, why other directors did not find out it before, they also could make out with her early.

  • Medical Attention STAT

    “Dude, it is inside her car and that pic was posted today by one of her closest friends. Imdb is having a cow because they have realized what some of us here picked up. Cronenberg gaves us the biggest hint. When the entire world was trending with the end of Robsten, he gaves us the biggest hint. Rob also mentioned the fact that his agent gave him advise but he chooses to ignore it. I knew something was up. It was a brain fart just like people have stolen private pics before. It happens, this fandom has connections big enough to get a hold of Summit’s movie footage.”

    I swear the chicks are losing touch! LOSING IT! Dear EBoards, we need a medically trained moderator on this board with connections to the loony bin.

  • crush

    I thought Rob looked suspiciously tan…ah, young tempestuous love. Ya gotta luv it.

  • seeking the truth

    I like that!!

  • Money

    Girl for 5K I would hike there.

  • seeking the truth

    You pretty much got it all wrong. Guess you are the queen of lies.

  • Tammy

    “Headless horseman riding shotgun with Bear – News at 11″

  • Jane

    do tell us what she got wrong since your obviously an insider

  • http://twitter.com/RobSupporter1 RobSupporter1

    Yes, I agree with you on that one. People do need to face the consequences of their actions. What is this thing about bear on twitter?

  • Tammy

    “Reports confirm that One of the side effects of KA is that movie directors talk to individuals via code and send brain waves with messages. We hope these messages provide us the answers to world peace, world hunger and the most important question of all – “What do women really want.”

  • really?

    :I What did i just read?

  • really?

    He has changed…..

  • Tally

    besides Rob

  • MKB

    No doubt! And it’s more like 3000 comments of the same stuff over and over and over again. Zzzzzzzzzz… Here’s two more to add:

    It’s none of our business!

    Rob just say something!

  • guest

    Yes, she can perform dry humped on stage. Everyone can link her face with sexual accession.
    Everyone think how she is indulging in a row of sex game.

  • Love Will Keep Us Together

    Thank you Gossip Cop for being transparent on Robert and Kristen. At least there’s an honest site out there whom I can visit every time I open my internet. Keep up the good work, here’s hoping that the paparazzi and the desperate other sites and magazines will stop this B.S already and leave Rob and Kristen to sort things out between them.

  • Jenny

    Dude, you have no idea how I am laughing hysterically over this… YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!! I

  • guest

    lets be honest Kristen isnt driving around in the mini cooper seen round the world these days…if so the paps would have a zillion pics of her already, i find that hard to believe

  • guest

    lets be honest Kristen isnt driving around in the mini cooper seen round the world these days…if so the paps would have a zillion pics of her already, i find that hard to believe

  • Tammy

    “Kstew has a twin she has just discovered, who is the person who posed with Rupert. Her next movie was the Parent Trap 5, Revenge of the Fandom and KStewie (as the twin is known) was practicing for the role.”

  • Tammy

    “Kstew has a twin she has just discovered, who is the person who posed with Rupert. Her next movie was the Parent Trap 5, Revenge of the Fandom and KStewie (as the twin is known) was practicing for the role.”

  • one who knows

    there is no credible proof of any of that

  • one who knows

    there is no credible proof of any of that

  • one who knows

    and sometimes its not

  • one who knows

    and sometimes its not

  • Jesse

    I think I’m gonna call CNN

    Kstew is having Rupert’s baby and long with Rob they are going to raise him. Bear is really not a bear but a dog who has a doll fetish and is in love with Snoopy. Kool aid is now KA and has the same premise as back to the future, the skewed version, and it talks to your through your computer screen. and while shopping for high-chairs Rob got a tan and is riding into the sunset with Kstew. And the fandom is going to throw them a joint baby shower in the inside of their mini because that is where the first official get together picture was taken with headless people.

    *picks up phone*

  • Jesse

    I think I’m gonna call CNN

    Kstew is having Rupert’s baby and long with Rob they are going to raise him. Bear is really not a bear but a dog who has a doll fetish and is in love with Snoopy. Kool aid is now KA and has the same premise as back to the future, the skewed version, and it talks to your through your computer screen. and while shopping for high-chairs Rob got a tan and is riding into the sunset with Kstew. And the fandom is going to throw them a joint baby shower in the inside of their mini because that is where the first official get together picture was taken with headless people.

    *picks up phone*

  • one who knows

    yes, and perhaps they are still editing it or gathering the final research notes……

  • one who knows

    yes, and perhaps they are still editing it or gathering the final research notes……

  • sheenspr

    lol That was me. Love will keeps us together. Bring on November rain~~~~~

  • sheenspr

    lol That was me. Love will keeps us together. Bring on November rain~~~~~

  • really?

    ha sounds about right

  • really?

    ha sounds about right

  • guest

    kisses and dry humped plus locked sexual pictures and dvd that are stolen as reporting.

  • guest

    kisses and dry humped plus locked sexual pictures and dvd that are stolen as reporting.

  • one who knows

    really ? like the same reason the rags, i mean mags, say all the other things that they end up taking back. it’s called creating more spin…..

  • one who knows

    really ? like the same reason the rags, i mean mags, say all the other things that they end up taking back. it’s called creating more spin…..

  • Mariana

    I have no vested interest for anyone’s team, but if these two break-up / or have broken up, the man girls are going to be in mourning, call a strike and burn their bras. JFC!

  • Mariana

    I have no vested interest for anyone’s team, but if these two break-up / or have broken up, the man girls are going to be in mourning, call a strike and burn their bras. JFC!

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure because I haven’t been following it religiously. I think it’s stupid people seem to be pinning their hopes of a ‘Robsten’ reunion on a picture of a dog that may not even be Bear. There are a lot of brown dogs out there!

    Apparently it came from one of Kristen’s friends twitter. I dunno. If it’s true and that is bear then it could also be a picture from long ago. But I think the timing of it is shitty. This week was meant to be serious promo for Rob and Cosmopolis. We already knew he was gonna get asked about the scandal because the story is so huge. But with Jodie Foster’s article first, and now this picture if it is true (which I don’t believe it is) then they are only adding fuel to the fire, and being a bit selfish. I mean, Rob gets cheated on and he’s the first one to have to face the media, still pretty soon after it happened. And with Jodie’s article in particular coming out and defending Kristen’s actions (which I will never understand. You can like her but don’t defend what she’s done, she and Rupert have hurt a lot of people), it just annoys me that they couldn’t have waited a bit longer until Rob’s promo was over. They’re only providing more material that reporters can question Rob over by bringing up personal matters again, which sucks because Cosmopolis is a big film for him.

    I dunno man, I just know I’m not gonna flip out about any pictures that surface at this point because like I said, even if they aren’t fake, then that doesn’t mean the picture is from today, yesterday, or any time recent.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure because I haven’t been following it religiously. I think it’s stupid people seem to be pinning their hopes of a ‘Robsten’ reunion on a picture of a dog that may not even be Bear. There are a lot of brown dogs out there!

    Apparently it came from one of Kristen’s friends twitter. I dunno. If it’s true and that is bear then it could also be a picture from long ago. But I think the timing of it is shitty. This week was meant to be serious promo for Rob and Cosmopolis. We already knew he was gonna get asked about the scandal because the story is so huge. But with Jodie Foster’s article first, and now this picture if it is true (which I don’t believe it is) then they are only adding fuel to the fire, and being a bit selfish. I mean, Rob gets cheated on and he’s the first one to have to face the media, still pretty soon after it happened. And with Jodie’s article in particular coming out and defending Kristen’s actions (which I will never understand. You can like her but don’t defend what she’s done, she and Rupert have hurt a lot of people), it just annoys me that they couldn’t have waited a bit longer until Rob’s promo was over. They’re only providing more material that reporters can question Rob over by bringing up personal matters again, which sucks because Cosmopolis is a big film for him.

    I dunno man, I just know I’m not gonna flip out about any pictures that surface at this point because like I said, even if they aren’t fake, then that doesn’t mean the picture is from today, yesterday, or any time recent.

  • mls8662

    Did she cheat on you? No she didn’t. You should be ignoring it because it’s none of your business. I am so sick of pointing fingers and judging. This is between Rob and Kristen.

  • mls8662

    Did she cheat on you? No she didn’t. You should be ignoring it because it’s none of your business. I am so sick of pointing fingers and judging. This is between Rob and Kristen.

  • sheenspr

    LOVE, Love, Love…sweet thang~~

  • sheenspr

    LOVE, Love, Love…sweet thang~~

  • guest

    Kristen’s hollywood career is dead on July 23, she is not really getting into Rupig, she is very interested to directors.

  • guest

    Kristen’s hollywood career is dead on July 23, she is not really getting into Rupig, she is very interested to directors.

  • sheenspr

    funny shit~~~

  • sheenspr

    funny shit~~~

  • mls8662

    And Kristen is getting all the hate. Rupert’s done this before and all he’s getting is pats on the back and a new project from Universal.

  • mls8662

    And Kristen is getting all the hate. Rupert’s done this before and all he’s getting is pats on the back and a new project from Universal.

  • Halfpt5ft

    There is no credible proof that they are done either, but the media is running with that tidbit as fact. I in no way claim to know what is truth and what is not – the only thing any of us really know, is that anything is possible and we do not know half of what is really going on.

  • Halfpt5ft

    There is no credible proof that they are done either, but the media is running with that tidbit as fact. I in no way claim to know what is truth and what is not – the only thing any of us really know, is that anything is possible and we do not know half of what is really going on.

  • crb

    Jenny, he HAS answered it, many times in the past week during interviews that have been posted on Robsessed, and he says he’s “fine”, or when they ask if he’s ok, he says “yes”. OK?

  • crb

    Jenny, he HAS answered it, many times in the past week during interviews that have been posted on Robsessed, and he says he’s “fine”, or when they ask if he’s ok, he says “yes”. OK?

  • JS

    David told me he wants to be the ring boy, which I guess means Jodie is the flower girl.

  • Susie

    More like that movie Project X and burn down entire cities and towns.

  • sheenspr

    Of course!!! What else would she have the dog? Today Rob says that he can look at the Twilight movies and it is “sweet”? I was like WTF? Isn’t this guy miserable and betrayed and he comes up with the word sweet? What gives? lol

  • Medical Attention Needed

    @Sheenspr – no offense – meant in good fun

  • guest

    It is funny to see EW cover picture of BD2, Rob is geting down his head with unhappy face and seems to dislike to shoot photo with her, it is a big different to previous picture in meadow. Do you know the box office of EW this issued?

  • MaryMary

    See this is what people that hate Kristen don’t see. They can not see the pictures are fake. Now Kristen admitted to something so we have to believe her about that. The rest is pure garbage BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT. I will not click on those stories. I will never buy another magazine that has those types of pictures. These actors deserve space from the fans. No matter what Rob and Kristen were NOT MARRIED nor Engaged. So how broken up can he be? If she was not important enough to say vows with then I guess she was just a person for the time. She is better off away from him and his crazy fans and this ROBSTEN frienzy. It is nuts.

  • sheenspr

    The Kristen haters are having a panic attack because Bear is with his “mum”. They are going out like bats out of cave ready tO feed. Beware of the bashing. By tomorrow we will have 900 post claiming that K needs to have a big “A” tatooed on her forehead. Haters!!!

  • Tally

    aren’t you that twihard who was insisting that this was a cover up so rob and kristen can get married or whatever?

  • Tally

    aren’t you that twihard who was insisting that this was a cover up so rob and kristen can get married or whatever?

  • sheenspr

    Seems logical but is this your perception or actual knowledge?

  • sheenspr

    Seems logical but is this your perception or actual knowledge?

  • sheenspr

    Yes, makes sense.

  • guest

    To Gossip Cop, only you can remain on the beat, separating fact from fiction.

  • Shinypenny99

    There is also a saying – “Do not believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.” Seeing the pics does not tell the whole story. Not saying that what happened was not as bad as it looked or was worse than it looked. Just saying – we do not really know anything.

  • Shinypenny99

    There is also a saying – “Do not believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.” Seeing the pics does not tell the whole story. Not saying that what happened was not as bad as it looked or was worse than it looked. Just saying – we do not really know anything.

  • sheenspr

    Dude, because that is his dog , his soulmate as he described it before. Rob’s words not mine. Just saying.

  • sheenspr

    Dude, because that is his dog , his soulmate as he described it before. Rob’s words not mine. Just saying.

  • guest

    Why would she have Rob’s dog in the same seat as she had Rupert while making out with him? I get that she wore Rob’s clothes during the “fling” but man, you’d think she’d get rid of that car.

  • guest

    Why would she have Rob’s dog in the same seat as she had Rupert while making out with him? I get that she wore Rob’s clothes during the “fling” but man, you’d think she’d get rid of that car.

  • Functionally Literate

    That is such a lie! Bear is a bear, just a really little one. If you print out the picture that Lindsay posted and put it under a high powered microscope you can clearly see that he has whiskers and teeth! How many dogs do you know have whiskers and teeth??! Plus his tail is so fake looking you can tell it’s photoshopped. And if you notice in pictures from last year he is wearing a collar. In this picture he has NO COLLAR. Where did the disappearing collar go?? Can someone please tell me that?

  • Functionally Literate

    That is such a lie! Bear is a bear, just a really little one. If you print out the picture that Lindsay posted and put it under a high powered microscope you can clearly see that he has whiskers and teeth! How many dogs do you know have whiskers and teeth??! Plus his tail is so fake looking you can tell it’s photoshopped. And if you notice in pictures from last year he is wearing a collar. In this picture he has NO COLLAR. Where did the disappearing collar go?? Can someone please tell me that?

  • sheenspr

    There is proof that that is Bear and it was posted by Kristen’s friend. Is that enough proof for you. You think that Pattinson has no money for a dogsitter? Get real!!

  • sheenspr

    There is proof that that is Bear and it was posted by Kristen’s friend. Is that enough proof for you. You think that Pattinson has no money for a dogsitter? Get real!!

  • JosieL

    This is great stuff! Lol.

  • JosieL

    This is great stuff! Lol.

  • sheenspr

    Are you trying to tell me that that is nor BeaR? Are you trying to convince me that is not one of K’s friend’s? I could give you that her friend could have a mini (possible) but that is Bear (no doubt) and it is her close friend. Go and watch Cosmopolis so that it can come to Miami. Send Pattinson some smoke signals and wait for him to pick you up.

  • Rob and Kristen forever

    1- yeah about that place. Couldnt have been going on for very long since they didnt have an appropriate set up for their trysts yet.

    2.Scewing her director. Right. You got proff of that? Nowhere in the pics are they screwing. Proove it .

    3.She didnt fake anything. She does love her boyfriend. and again you have proof of scewing how?

    4. yeah right dream on bitch.

  • Anonymous

    Look what Kristen did was wrong but the people spewing hate on these boards are also guilty of sin. The Lord is watching you also. Remember as you judge others you will also be judged. It’s true that Kristen did something wrong, but she wasn’t alone. Robert Pattinson has no obligation to answer any question about his private life. We do not have the right to that information. I am very proud of the fact that he has behaved like a mature, self confident, gentleman. Jenny, if he want to talk, it should not be to the public, not to the fans. It has to be to professional counselors, to his family and his closest friends, not the public.

  • sheenspr

    No offense taken. I always get a good laugh .

  • really?

    You shouldn’t put religion in this. Not everyone has the same beliefs as you. You have to be respectable to other people. You seem nice and i would hate to see people dog on you for this. People on this board can be really crazy.

  • Leslie

    Who is Jenny?

  • Teresa

    Good laugh between all the hate. You go girl

  • really?

    Maybe Jennyg38?

  • really?

    …. what?

  • MaryMary

    She did not have a cap when she exited the car or walked across the street. When they are hugging her shoes look white. If they were still the red shoes then the red would show around the laces. These pictures again…….brought to you by people who lie and manufacture the news. I hope that she gets a lawyer and sues them. At my age I know I would.

    The interview after Comic Con when Kristen and Rob were supposedly waiting. He said mean things to her and she said he was kidding. I don’t think he was. He wanted out and I bet she did too. She may have loved him more. This whole thing could be a reaction to him dumping her in private. YOU JUST DON”T KNOW.

  • sheenspr

    Haven’t you learn that Kristen is known to have brain farts? She should have changed her car by the time that people memorized her license plate. Then she goes and complaints that paps recognized her car everywhere.lol

  • sheenspr

    Do you know that we don’t get pics of her MAlibu place?If I recall only about 3 years ago when Rob’s car was parked there.

  • Sam

    Let’s stop reaching… Please

  • PIC OF BEAR
  • really?

    okay. Its a dog. We care?

  • Ok

    And this is relevant because????????????????????????????

  • Tammy

    @Functionally Literate – You know what? You know nothing? What are you an “insider”? If you were an insider you would know he’s a wolf! He’s team Jacob!!! I can’t believe you come on here to spread these lies! LIES! HATERZ!

  • Jules

    WTF? Team Jacob, how is he relevant? Why are you dissing him? Leave them out of this! MORONS! IDIOTS!

  • really?

    Really. There are pictures like that were shot before this. Please stop

  • PIC OF BEAR

    Some posters below were asking about a tweet posted today of Robert Pattinson’s dog, Bear….that’s the link.

  • Dee

    I have to admit that something doesn’t seem right about those pics. Are the best ones missing? Where are the steamy, mouth-on-mouth kisses at the fence that you would expect from two people having an elicit affair? Why is Kristen facing away from Ruperv most of the time? When they look at each other in the ones where they are not against each other, they don’t look happy. None of this makes sense to me.

  • one who knows

    i believe he was being sarcastic, lighten up

  • sheenspr

    They kissed but maybe he came on to her. Could that be why she kissed him in daylight in that place? It could be that it was not planned (at least not by her) Maybe the car pics are what happened first. She kind of looks indecisive and hesitant in the fence. There is something off on this puzzle and then the paps account do not make sense. A whole week following her and this is what you get? That is not a full blown affair. Whatever happened, he looks like the predator. The release by K? Well…it happened and we can see that there was some kissing. That is why. I just think that the mag manipulated the truth by picking and choosing pics, not releasing a video, lying about location , duration and other things. There is more than meets the eye.

  • Byebye

    You and your “Bearians” need to go somewhere else, we don’t care! Shoo! Go away!

  • sheenspr

    Why do you gate to tells us? Believe me some of us are true fans and love them together.

  • sheenspr

    Meant to say why do you hate to tell us?Are you a fan or do you have first hand knowledge?

  • ROTF

    @one who knows.. ROTF

  • ROTF

    @one – who realize they are just playing and being sarcastic , right? ROTF

  • sheenspr

    IS n twitter. Go there and you will find any fan that has retweeted it. Trust me , that shit went viral in a matter of seconds. I was on twitter right at the moment . I was like its gotta be a fan pic but that shit had a resolution worth of a punkd image. Shit!!

  • Charrlie

    I think it sounds worse if she picked him up at work, That shows intent on her part.

  • Anonymous

    @really, I am not trying to put religion into anything. But all this hate has to stop, what Kristen did was wrong, but let’s face it spewing hate on these boards doesn’t make anything better. The people spewing the hate are no better than the person they are trying to put down.

  • Teens need brains

    I think ppl think it’s serious… Dear Lord help us!

  • really?

    Like i said nothing will stop the hate. People actually mental in the head. You have to be to care so much over a celebrity.

  • Teresajholmes

    huh? what is inside her car? what advice from his agent and why did he ignore it? whats up? what is the brain fart? what fandom have connections????????????

  • Theresa

    When Kristen was trying to walk the dog in NYC, it was digging it’s paws into the concrete, like nope. You could almost see the sparks coming off his paws as Kristen was trying to take him for a walk. They always say dogs just know.

  • really?

    hahahaha Really? When was this?

  • guest

    Bear should stay with dad Rob. it is disgusting if rupit touches him.

  • one who knows

    Exactly. The photos and reports don’t add up. They are looking right at the camera since the papp have nowhere to hide, and are not provocative at all, and most of the info is pure speculation. None of the parties involved have confirmed anything directly.

  • Ariel

    Thank you for your posts. I agree with you.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KPDEF6XDWCPHHAMRX6DN6MPFI4 mary d

    This reminds me of another love couple Britnany Spears and Justin Timberlake when they were the hot couple and everyone got all uppity about her not being a virgin….poor Justin. They were both in the limelight at a very young age and both made mistakes after they broke up….and we all survived. Kristen was very young when cast for Twilight and really who can cope with the mega success that was thrust upon her. I think sometimes she doesn’t feel deserving of the good things she has happening to her and deliberately wants the world to know she is human and isn’t perfect. We get that now so let her fix the mess she made on her own. The turd in this story is the 41 year old director that used his position as her boss and elder to seduce her. Just because she is hot and young doesn’t mean you are allowed to expolit her….If I were Summit Entertainment he would never work form me again and I cannot believe her parents are not pissed about it. Ruperts wife should kick him out and take him to the cleaners financially. mn

  • guest

    Since when you become Ceasar Milan – Dog Whisperer?

  • Carole

    I so agree with this version of events. KStew is just a big hypocrite, everything she’s done this year proves that. You can’t be on 32 magazine covers in one year without being desperate for attention and then letting it all go to your head and thinking you’re above it all. She’s always wanted to have her cake and eat it, too, and this time she got caught. She’s not the victim.

  • Lizzybeth

    Actually I believe – that today’s article written (by Lainey’s friend) at Lainey’s request as an opinion on Jody Foster’s Daily Beast article in ‘defence’ of Kristen Stewart.

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  • XYZ

    To Gossip Cop – It’s getting BOOORRRRIIIINNNNNGGGG…..If you want a lot of hits, why don’t you just copy & paste from the previous articles. The same people, the same rant.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Don’t you get it. US Magazine/People/the paparazzi LIED about the location and circumstances of the pictures. You need to take a step back and reevaluate the crap you have accepted as truth to easily.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Excuse me, but you don’t know what you are talking about. Try gogling it. Businesses in this area include the west coast offices of Hulu, IMAX, Dick Clark Productions, Santa Monica Studios, and host of entertainment related businesses. This Santa Monica for crying out loud. Not a bunch of deserted warehouses in a dangerous part of town.

    Why it makes a difference is Fameflynet & US Mag. lied and we caught them. You may know enough, but it not enough for people who are still using brains. If you don’t want to use yours, you might want to consider not wasting our time.

  • Linda

    Alyssa, is that you? You’re someone who writes the same damn things again and again. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • Linda

    People can still make a “conscious decision” and have it be a mistake. Why get hung up on the words?

    Because of all that’s happened to her I bet Kristen will never cheat on a man again.

  • Linda

    Actually, Rupert’s cheating is worse than Kristen’s because he said marriage vows. Rob never slipped a ring on Kristen’s finger. Also, he is a lot older than Kristen.

    I don’t think anyone is making excuses for Kristen’s cheating but the punishment by the media isn’t justified for what she did.

  • Linda

    I wanted to point out something that you said in another post. Jody Foster was not defending Kristen’s cheating. She was defending Kristen’s malicious treatment by the media. Big difference.

  • Linda

    She already is facing the consequences. And there is no proof the relationship included sex. Gossipcop stated twice that it did not.

    What more do you want from Kristen – blood?

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Sorry for the address confusion. That’s what I get for trying to run out the door as I wrote this. The correct address for the overlook for google purposes is 7267 Pacific View Drive, LA. That is the actual address on the house in the image. The picket fence and the guardrail starts at the end of the property’s garage.

    The correct address for google purposes where two of the car photo pictures were taken is is 2094 S. Centalena Avenue, LA. That gets you to the right spot to look North in street view. The address in the image indicates 2272. I do not know why the disparity. But this is where two of the car photos were taken. #26 & 37.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    more romantic place? Have you looked at google earth for the address. Its not more romantic. It a guardrail with no view in a residential area.

  • Linda

    No, it’s because of Pattinson. A lot of women view him as a perfect infallible being. He may be a great guy but he’s not perfect. What’s ironic is that most of these haters would cheat with Pattinson in a second if they had the chance.

  • Linda

    Oh for chrissake, Jody Stewart is only defending Kristen against the cruel treatment by the media, NOT THE CHEATING.

  • Linda

    LOL, I meant Jody Foster.

  • Linda

    Yes, but men have their pride and rarely take women back who cheat. Maybe Rob feels he has so much going on for him that he could find another woman easily.

  • Linda

    If Rob wasn’t fine then we wouldn’t have seen him out and about promoting his movie. He hardly looks like a devastated boyfriend to me.

  • SN1604

    Speaking of the paps, it used to be when a pap brought a pic to an editor, the editor would call the studio chief and they’d meet to discuss terms. It would be free exclusives for a year, party invites thrown in and the pap would be paid off. The chief would have a sit-down with the actor, and actor would walk the straight and narrow. No scandal and no double cross from the pap or else he’d be planted next to a cactus in the Mojave. Or maybe swaying with the kelp off the coast.

  • Linda

    90% of Hollywood cheats at one time or another, but let’s massacre Kristen Stewart for it! (sarcasm).

  • Bai

    you know what i really hate about this website…the little ad that keeps popping up on the bottom left side of my screen…thats all i wanted to say lol

  • Linda

    You’re lying – the reason you’re outraged is because NO ONE, absolutely no one can cheat on Pattinson.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    There is an overlook there towards downtown LA but that spot does not match up with the US Magazine pictures. The place that does is 7267 Pacific View Drive, not Trail. You can’t see downtown from here.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    But it doesn’t match up with the US Mag. photos.

  • Linda

    The only “people” Kristen has flipped off are the scumbag paps and a lot of celebrities do that.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Nope, you’ve got the wrong street. We are talking about Pacific View Drive, not Pacific View Trail.

  • lmao

    too funny!

  • Anonymous

    No, you guys putting way to much in to the “missing” cap.

    She could have left it in the car, and then went to pick it up, or she could have gone back to the car, and left the damn cap in it, because she wanted both her hands free to fondle with Rupert.

    The paps stated, that every time someone came or they heard something, they walked away in opposite directions, and at one of these times, she could have gone back to the car and left the cap in it.

    - It IS easier to fondle each other, when your hands empty, you know.

  • guest

    Gossip Cop threw to beat, separating degrade fake picture.

  • Linda

    Kristen did come clean. She apologized for cheating on Rob and on hurting everyone involved – that’s coming clean.

  • guest

    Because Rupig is going to be their son in law.

  • Linda

    Easy. It’s an old picture.

  • XYZ

    I thought I’m the only who is having that. Same here.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly, and all this arrogant, bad-in-your-face attitude is just another mask, another role she’s playing, and I believe, that only very few people knows, who the young woman named Kristen Stewart really is – and Robert is the one who knows best.

  • Jubilee

    Rob said people who like kitties are sociopaths… And as you all Krisbians know Kristen can’t live without her cat… Rob’s indirect dig at her was brilliant!

  • Linda

    You’re right but Rob may be disgusted with Kristen after the cheating and feel she’s not the person he thought she was. 80% of men do not take back a cheating partner – they all have their pride. IMO it’s over for good and Rob won’t take her back. I wish it were different because I loved them together but we have to face the reality.

  • Anonymous

    I know back in the days, a lot of things was going on in Hollywood, really bad and outrageous things like; rape, S&M-orgies, gang-bangs, sexual abuse and rape of minors, even children, and murder of course, things soo bad, that even the authorities was in on the cover-ups, they were bribed to shut up and even made evidence from crime-scenes, disappear, but things like that is very difficult to hide nowadays, because everybody have cell-phones with HD-cameras in them, people is online everywhere so pics and videos goes on the air, almost instant.

    It is being increasingly harder to make cover-ups, and thats just a good thing.

  • Guest04

    It would be helpful for him to remember this one incident doesn’t define who she is. They’ve been together for three years and she plucked him from obscurity which allowed his success in the film industry. If he can get past the embarrassment, and not worry over what people think, they may have a future together. But I do wonder about his watching from afar while she burns. Even when I was where he is now, I didn’t stand for mine to be raked like that.

  • guest

    If that is the case, to all women who has cat & worship Rob, you know what you are to him. It’s not too late yet, dump your cat & get dog.

  • Guest22

    hey Gossip Cop…will you be publishing a compliation of Separating Fact from Fiction for my coffee table? Part 6 now…I look forward to seeing Part 937.

  • guest

    It’s like Big Brother is watching us…

  • Anonymous

    it’s not the weight of your brain that causes your legs to shake, I can tell. It was a JOKE!

  • guest

    Man, I haven’t laugh so loud in my life. I LOVE IT!!!

  • Guest

    Oh sure you know they’re both responsible but you’re choosing to just hate and judge Kristen!

  • Anonymous

    I agree that none of this makes any sense. Why would an extremely private but famous person make out with a man who is not her well known boyfriend in broad day light in a touristy area!

  • Guest

    No Kelli, Rupert really wants you and is waiting for the right time to ask you out. You and Rupert would make the perfect couple!

  • Guest

    I love comments like yours because when we see them walk the carpet at BD2 you’re going to implode lol Oh and speaking of delusional…hello my queen!!

  • Jubilee

    Yeah it was a joke I know that DUH.. but it was still a dig at Kristen… and it was a good one and quite revealing as to what he thinks of her! ; – )

  • Cassie

    KStew’s affair had nothing to do with Rob & all to do with her own issues. No matter what they have or have achieved, some people are never satisfied. It isn’t not getting enough sex, it’s about having a void that no one can fill. That’s where the expression, once a cheater always a cheater comes from.

    Those kind of people are driven to find a new experience, even if they have the best at home. So no, Rob doesn’t look weak, she looks like she needs a psychiatrist.

    KStew is a spoiled, selfish brat who’s had everything handed to her on a silver platter and it still wasn’t enough. Esquire magazine pointed to her “air of snarling entitlement,” in 2009, this isn’t new. She wanted to have her cake & eat it, too.

    Her lying & cheating spree had nothing to do with her heart, she’s proved she doesn’t have one of those–ask Liberty Ross & the 2 small children. None of this had to do with a lack on Rob’s part.

  • Jenny

    So what is justified for what she did? Is everyone just supposed to ignore it and act like nothing happened?

    She needs to learn that actions have consequences. She’s been in the movie business for over ten years, she grew up watching Angelina get tons of hate for taking Brad away from Jennifer.

    She knew the score and she lied and cheated anyway because she’s spoiled brat who’s always done whatever she wanted and got away with it, from dropping out of school to shouting deathwishes at people on the sidewalk.

    It’s time she faced the consequences for her horrendous behavior and if she has so little goodwill from the general public, she earned it. People didn’t like her before and she gave them more of a reason to dislike her now. No one lies a lying cheater, and that’s what she is. Deal with it.

  • guest

    But it was more than “just a few kisses” It was lying and betraying someone she was supposed to be commited to. Sex or no sex, (which you have to admit is at least a possibilty) is still considered cheating.

  • Guest

    You obviously believe the paps are telling the truth so please explain why they are refusing to release the complete video of the “encounter”. They take vids and pics at the same time when they “catch” celebs in the act and then sell the vid as soon as the pics are posted…except this one time. If the vid shows everything the paps claim then they’d be chomping at the bit to sell it and for BIG bucks! Speaks volumes about the “photographic evidence” Harry…especially when Sanders is kissing and pawing Kristen and still looking at paps to make sure they are getting the shot! http://tinyurl.com/cf2vqb8
    Ewwwww…something smells big time here!

  • http://hibritelighting.com/ Kenneth Banuelos

    BRAVO! BRAVO! You have pretty much have summed up the last 3 weeks of comments on this board in 30 seconds! Thank you.

  • http://www.beautygram.com/ Jenine Balderas

    don’t believe hard photographic proof that Kristen cheated? Did you even see all of those 50+ pictures?

  • KStew is still toxic

    Your comment might be valid if KStew was an adult, but she’s just a spoiled child who’s proved she’s not mature enough to love anyone. If you can’t be faithful and you destroy all the trust in your relationship then love doesn’t mean very much, does it?

    And you don’t cheat on someone you love and lie to them about it. You do that if you’re an incredibly selfish person who doesn’t respect your partner. She needs a psychiatrist, not a boyfriend. Rob is well rid of her and don’t be fooled by old pics of Bear, they are not getting back together.

  • Laura

    To me, the biggest indicator that they are not together or at least haven’t fully reconciled is that Rob was cool with Jon Stewart referring to Rob and Kristen’s status as a break up multiple times. It was evident that they spoke before the show since Rob seemed to know about the ice cream and said something about Jon taking it out too early.

    Even if they hadn’t spoken before the show, I can’t see Rob smiling and laughing at the “kick her to the curb” comments if they had decided to reconcile. He would have at least frowned or made some kind of remark, and he just laughed and went along with it.

    He’s also been having a great time in NY, going to Soho House on Tuesday night and having lots of laughter and fun. He doesn’t look like he’s pining away and he’s not sitting alone in his hotel room.

  • Sandra (Guest)

    While you google it also look at the walls surrounding the lot.
    Across from the car (where the papz are suppose to be) is a white brick wall. The angle is all wrong if they took the pics over the wall. How can the pap move without being seen? The lot is not that big and I doubt the pap is invisible or have cameras with perfect x-ray vision.
    My piont is it didn’t happen the way FameFlyNet said it did.
    Makes you wonder wat else they are lying about.

  • Nettie

    Men view things differently than women and they want respect the most. And they have their male pride. When people say things like “he may take her back because emotions are deep,” they are talking from a female perspective.

    Based on the way Rob has been carrying himself lately, I see a man who is a lot stronger than people think and one who has a lot of pride and does not take her public betrayal of him, lightly.

    His opinion of her has changed and when a man’s opinion of a woman has changed…….a man’s love can turn to disgust very quickly. So I think Rob is moving on, he has a lot of work to focus on, and he might be happy to be single again. Better than to be tied with someone who’s cheating on you behind your back.

  • RambolinaSA

    Amen….Well said…i agree with you 100%……I honesty hope Rob and Kristen can work through this..There is no perfect relationship and nobody is perfect!!!!!!

  • RambolinaSA

    Excuse me…….!!!!but who are you to speak for all men…..and to judge people like you are…What a load of CROCK!!!!

  • Stace

    One thing you haven’t covered is did they actually have sex (of any kind)? That, to me, is the maker or breaker. I would forgive, if reluctantly, kissing and canoodling. But not sex. Is this too much for the American media to cover, or would it kill the whole story, if it was found out it actually was just “a momentary indiscretion”?

  • Shinypenny99

    Methinks you are reading a little too much into that one. He is not going to go there publicly – period.

  • Bimse Jr

    To me the emotional betray is the worst.

    - sex is just worldly desires, the cravings of the flesh and it’s not gonna break “it” to be used. ;o)

  • guest

    Still can’t get over how completely stupid Kristen was to allow herself to be photographed out in the open like that. She not only ruined her relationship (whatever that was), but has potentially damaged her career – only time will tell!

  • Anonymous

    Well, I’m pretty sure she has a hard time wrapping her mind around that herself.

  • Lee

    This is getting RIDICULOUS!!!! Are you serious!!!!

  • Robstenadditted

    I am still waiting to see where Rob goes after the New York thing. When the Publicity tour calms down and he goes home. That is what I am interested in, because I want to know whose home he will go to.

    Right now I have so many mixed feeling on the way Rob is handling things. One minute I think he is doing the right thing by keeping his mouth shut, and then the next I feel he is really doing a horrible thing by standing by and letting the world rip Kristen apart.

    I think it would help if I just knew Kristen was aright. I can’t believe she has never left her house since July 20 something.

  • Anonymous

    Last night my bff and I were watching movies and popped in BD1, the first time since the scandal broke. Remember when Jacob sees Bella pregnant for the first time? He lunges at Edward, growling YOU did this! My bff and I looked at each other and in unison said: “uh, Not necessarily” and then literally rolled laughing. It was quite awhile before we could stop.

    Now, before you say it neither of us were Team anybody, we have no trouble knowing that these are fictional characters; but in the wake of this scandal that was our immediate reaction. We discussed for quite a while how it will go down in theaters when a scene (post scandal) strikes a chord such as this. Is Breaking Dawn part two destined to become a black comedy with people rolling in the aisles laughing while the heavily invested Twihards kick and scream at them?

  • guest

    You are insane….Kristen is loves animals. Now your grasping at anything to make her look bad!

  • guest

    No *is* sorry!

  • Anonymous

    Lovely, Bravo!

  • Anonymous

    This is hilarious and exactly what has been happening here and on every site that has touched on this scandal (which is almost every website on the internet). It is time for this story to die. How many times can people re-hash the same crap OVER and OVER again? The facts are still the same. Every time the media/gossip sites post about this story they create mass arguments in the comments. Who cares people?! Commenting on whether or not you think Kristen is a guilty home-wrecker or an innocent victim is not going to change someone else’s opinion on the subject. I really doubt a person who hates Kristen is going to suddenly like her after someone writes a “heart felt” comment about her, and vise versa. This is why this first comment is so refreshing. All of the comments have been stated…now there is no need for 10,000 more people to restate these same comments/opinions. Can we get some new “news” please? This story has been beaten to DEATH!!!

  • Chrissie

    Thanks for the clarification.

  • Chrissie

    True, but he is an actor by profession and could very well be playing the part of “fine.”

  • Nello1418

    Why can’t it be dismissed as a mistake even if it happened more than once, which i believe it did not, she is only human and it is not like she killed anyone. Whatever her reason for doing so, she did own up to it and apologised for hurting the people involved; she could have denied it or tried to buy her way out like most rich people do and to me that is an admirable thing. Also, her personal life has nothing to do with her acting, so she should not be judged because of it. By the way, i do not recall gossip cop ever saying anything about the intimacy of the pictures showing that it happened more than once, that is just bull. As for me, i am still a fan of hers and Rob’s and i wish them all the best.

  • guest

    just heard that kristen was skipping VMAs and going to the TIFF instead. I think this is the right thing to do. It seems that Rob is not ready to see her and I think (if some of what we’re read is true) that he has been resisting having any meaningful contact with her. If she had indeed tried to reach out to him and apologized over and over, I think it’s time for her to stop. He is clearly not ready and may be he won’t ever be. As hard as it will be for her, I think she has to figure out a way to move forward without him … in a lot of ways, I always felt that she grounded him and kept him from some of the foolish pitfalls of celebrity/stardom and it was she that fiercely guarded their privacy … but now, I think, we will see a new rob. More likely, i think, we will see more, not less, of him. I think Kristen will remain private. In the past, I think Kristen let us see all the good things about Rob … his humor, his talent as a musician, his intelligence (the image that people love about him) … but now, I think, he will get influenced by all these so called friends (who are telling him not to forgive Kristen) dragging him out to nightclubs and with lots of flashy girls … I think he will let celebrity go to his head… I’m sure when it happens people will attribute it to the pain caused by Kristen (may be so but I think more likely just his immaturity). What Kristen did was wrong … although remains to be seen how wrong it was … I think she was forced into an uncomfortable situation by a boss and she let things get out of control. It did not seem premeditated to me. Her mistake was confusion with the situation and that she did not RUN. Anyway, I expect that she will be contrite in her next public appearance, shy and serious. I think it would be good if she apologized to her fans for causing them pain and unintentionally letting them down … and that she will never find the right words for what happened because she let herself down as well. And, when her next movie comes out, we will support her by buying 8 tickets to it and when her fragrance comes out, we will buy that as well. good luck.

  • Cheneylo

    Sorry i know you wish she has but she recently signed on to do a film beating jennifer lawrence for the part so her career is fine. As for Rob, you do not know if she has lost him, you like the rest of the world will just have to wait and see. So no you don’t wish her well, you can’t that about her job and life and claim that.

  • Chrissie

    I still have a feeling the whole “indiscretion” was staged or a set up or even a publicity stunt. Like they always say, good or bad, it’s all publicity… I guess only time will tell.

  • Nello1418

    wow you have so much time on your hands, i could not even read your whole garb. this are people’s lives you are dissecting like some sort of dissertation. Also, your words sound so angry like you have been waiting so long to say all this. Well, i bet you are happy now!

  • Nello1418

    She apologised to the people involved that she hurt and upset including her real fans who would be disappointed as you probably are not any one of them, the apology was not for you so not to worry there. what she said in her interviews is the fact; the media and paparazzi can be brutal and hurt people all the time. even before they got these pictures, there was always some story or the other about them so where is the hypocrisy?
    Also, nothing wrong with caplocks, it shows outrage.

  • andrea

    I don´t know if it was staged, something fake but I think there are a lot of details stange…. of course, I don´t know the purpose but something smells a rotten.

    But for the moment, Kristen lost so mucho for the Rupertgate: Rob, Cali, a lot of comments so hatred, bad press, etc… If it was a fake sure the idea it was not that they thinked,

    Only time can make us to know how is the situation between them… the curios is no pic of Kristen since TCA!!

  • andrea

    we are a lot of persons thinking how a person like Kristen, so private, did it… still do no understand…. and knowing the last news and pics from Robsten, in Cannes everybody saw the love between them.

  • andrea

    t’s not just for sex or not. You know that you lose confidence, you feel cheated, you start thinking about all the moments spent in intimacy, you start to rethink that maybe what I said was false … in order to account sex is coming over but the worst is the loss of trust, admiration you had put in a person … I do not know

  • Chrissie

    There were a few pics a few days after the pics came out of her getting gas and looking all disheveled and pleading with paps to leave her alone.

    Like I said, only time will tell…

  • Bellaxsquisite

    LMAO!!! I LOVE THIS!! SO AWESOME, THIS JUST MADE MY MORNING, LOL…

  • Anonymous

    Gossip cop didn’t mention that the pictures showed that it happened more than once, but they HAVE said it happened more than once in actual words. I can’t remember the exact words because it was from one of the earlier articles about this whole mess, but they did say it. You can look it up.

    And no I don’t believe it can be classed as a mistake if it happens just once, let alone more times. You’re making a concious decision to go out and do something even though you know it will hurt the person you love if you do it. ‘She’s only human’ is bullshit, and should not be an excuse, because plenty of people manage to not cheat. I guess they have better morals. Either way, I’m no longer a fan. I can’t stand cheating. I’ve seen first hand what it can do to people, and it’s not pretty.

  • Jenny

    Those were actually taken before the pictures came out but the tabloids made it seem like they were taken afterward (I think they were taken after she cheated, but not before US ran the pictures).

  • guest5

    That’s the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

    And what do we think of people who dislike and/or are jealous of cats? It seems that Rob disliked Kristen’s cat because she loved it. I believe he was jealous of it. In one interview he even smiled as he reminded her that the cat was going to die. That was mean.

  • guest

    Seriously like David Cronenberg said “you think that you might know everything that is going on but you don’t” You have no idea if he has seen her or not and personally imo he has and probably talked and the fact that Rob said his private life is not for sale like the rest of us you dont know them so just lt go and follow his career nd not his private life watch his movies that is what he wants and what goes on between he and Kristen is his business and not for you to decide in his life so give it a rest because your makng Rob look pathetic and nobody will ever take him seriously as an actor with crazy fans trying to give him advice.js

  • guest

    They are all on a wichhunt and that’ why the story keeps going and th psycho fans are making the rest of the fandom look bad.Imo if they want to keep on about it then everyone should boycott BD 2 and hit them in he pocket book and that will get their attenion.What has ruined it for me is how these other women are treating Kristen like she is the first one who ever made a wrong decision while the Rurick gets rewarded with slap on the back with a new movie to direct.Double standards anyone,and that is why women are getting passed over for raises equal pay because we allow these lowlife parasite leeches bottom feeder scum to continue to get away with this BS.Women need to support other women and hold these older perverted men accountle for their actions a well.jmo but that is how I see it

  • fournier

    Already in the sixth part of the facts and fictions. Or in fact any real facts is not, but fictions explaining.
    What are the facts, the images might be,,,. A public apology.
    Everything else borrowed, invented, “sources” tell. It is interesting to watch the various sites run by people as it suits them, and people will produce more stories about himself to himself.

    If you want to do something which affects, order to gain a list of people who do not go look at TWI.
    Both, Kristen and Rob are popular because they have a lot of fans. They too must have a certain respect for their fans.
    This would also be a good indication of what kind of power network can be.

  • seeking the truth

    Seriously? You don’t know these people – quit pretending as if you know what they are feeling and/or what they should do. I do not understand people on these sites who think they know best – for two people THEY DON’T KNOW!!!!!! Get a life please.

  • Anonymous

    No they were taken a whole month – June.15 – before the other pics. was taken.

  • Anonymous

    Kristen and Rupert had the hots for each other and acted upon it without thinking they could possible get caught..end of story.

  • Wtf

    Rob has said stuff like that about cats long before any of this happened. People like you that take comments out of context or try to spin your own meaning of what is said, is the reason things get blown out of proportion.

  • Wtf

    Hmmm.. Could it be that since there was a swarm of paps that had been waiting for Kristen, Bear was scared?

  • Linda

    Well then, I guess 90% of Hollywood is filled with spoiled selfish brats.

  • Linda

    Fine. You can’t stand cheating, but she doesn’t deserve to be crucified by the media and public – stupid hypocrites.

  • XYZ

    Well said.

  • Linda

    It’s safe to assume R&K are broken up. Rob never announced that he was dating Kristen, and he’s not going to announce that they’ve broken up either. Read between the lines – it’s over between them. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see Pattinson with another woman in the next few months.

  • Linda

    It was tacky of Jon Stewart to make the kick her to the curb comment and tacky of Pattinson to laugh at it. No matter what he things of Kristen now, laughing at her expense, especially just 3 weeks after it happened, just isn’t cool. However, I agree with you that they are broken up.

  • Syndi

    Check out the pic buffy posted on her tumblr. Fucking priceless!!

  • Anonymous

    How does it make you a hypocrite to no longer be a fan of someone because they cheated? I’d be a hypocrite if I sat here ‘hating’ on Kristen for being a cheater, if I myself had cheated before. If I went on about how important it was to be truthful in a relationship and how I can’t stand being fake, then went out and cheated then sure, I’m a ‘stupid hypocrite’. But guess who has done that? Kristen. After all the crap she spouted about being ‘honest’ and ‘real’ she sure has a hypocritical was of showing it.

  • trolls will troll

    you are one if not the biggest and loudest trolls on this and all boards you and your
    boyfriend should get a life and leave kristen alone. hey or how about you go on to
    the stage at the showing of bd2 and encourage the crowd to go along with your idiocy
    coz man you’re soooooo hilarious “not necessarily” I’m so rotflmao… NOT!

  • Linda

    You are another Linda. That’s me down below. I am not going around saying Kristen needs a psychiatrist.

  • andrea

    these pics were taken before scandal… as always the medias lie.

  • Linda

    No it’s not. Rob never confirmed a relationship with K and he won’t say they are broken up either, but it’s obvious they are no longer together. Rob seemed to think it was funny when Jon Stewart said kick her to the curb. He’s never taking her back.

  • Linda

    Tom may be upset with Kristen cheating on his best friend, but his own baby momma was a big cheat when she was younger so how can he hang Kristen for what she did. Besides, Tom is too much of a gentleman to go around criticizing people.

  • Linda

    Good for you that you are very mature for your age but a lot of early 20 somethings are not.

  • Linda

    This is ludicrous that someone who doesn’t actually know Kristen would write practically a dissertation on why Jody Foster who’s friends with Kristen shouldn’t defend her. Bizarre – people need to mind their own business.

  • 8675309

    Here’s the real fact from fiction:

    1. Kristen & Rupert were captured on film making out. From the pictures that have been published SO FAR, you can see that they are not engaging in oral sex, dry humping or kissing each other all over their bodies.They never once touch each other’s private parts.
    2. They were not driving all around LA in some marathon make-out session. The pictures published SO FAR show only two locations (the guardrail road & the parking lot).
    3. The moving vans in front of Rob’s home were staged by paparazzi. Unnamed sources are the only ones who have said that Rob asked Kristen to move out.
    4. Kristen and Rupert both issued apologies for the affair to their significant others.
    5. Kristen has not been seen since the pictures came out in US.
    6. Neither Rob, Kristen, Rupert or Liberty Sanders have issued statements regarding the aftermath of the affair (are they separated, divorcing, etc).
    7. There is a video of Rupert putting groceries into the trunk of his car.
    8. There are two pictures of Liberty walking around in LA.

    And basically, that’s all we know. EVERYTHING else can be made up. Don’t think that just because a gossip magazine says something, it has to be the truth. Most times, it’s just the opposite. Just like people on the comment boards can have theories and say things to irritate Rob fans or Kristen fans, so can the gossip rags and webloids. And even if Gossip Cop tells you something is from reliable sources, those reliable sources could be feeding them a lie to cover for their client(s). For example (this is only an example) Rob’s team tells GC that he is at Reese’s house when he is really somewhere else. Why? To get the paps off the trail of where he really is.

    So what I’m basically trying to say is that until one or all of the four people involved issues a public statement, or there is photographic proof of something, we only know these few things. Anything else is purely speculation. For those of you who want them to still be together, don’t worry if a mag calls her a “single” woman – it doesn’t mean anything. If you’re not married or engaged, you’re single even if you have a boyfriend. For those of you who want them to be apart, don’t get worked up over Kristen’s friend posting a picture of Rob’s dog on tumbler. It could be an old picture. K’s fans – don’t worry if she dropped out of Cali. There’s actually been no confirmation of that from the studio so it may be a lie. R’s fans – don’t worry if people say he’s bisexual or cheated on K first – it’s all just hearsay, no tangible proof exists.

    I don’t mean to sound preachy. I just finally realized how much time I’ve wasted going over all this stuff and trying to figure out what it all means. Yes, I thought they were a beautiful couple. I was rooting for them to stay together because they seemed so anti-Hollywood. And they stil might be together, who knows? I don’t. You don’t. Gossip Cop, US Weekly, People, etc. etc. don’t. No matter what, life goes on…

  • Fame

    Finally some sanity in here! Thank you.

  • Monica

    No one would risk this type of backlash, career, reputation.

    I don’t know why it’s hard to understand that maybe her and Rupert liked each other? Maybe they fell for each other, that doesn’t mean you love them.

    But I do think the paps exaggerated a bit, from the looks of the pictures, she picked him up at work. I think that is worse than turning around from the gym. That shows intent by her.

  • Fame

    Dude, it’s an opinion.

  • Word

    There are other things that don’t involve sex that are equally as physical.

    But we don’t know what happened or how long she was cheating for.

    Momentary can mean days, weeks or short month span.

  • Pics

    The images are real, the pap story, may be an exaggerated version. Just like the telephone game, everyone adds a little.

  • Word

    Then Mr. Genius why don’t you tell us.

  • Hmmmm

    No, Kristen arrived in her own car by herself and Rupert was already there. The paps that took the pics slipped up and told that Kristen was headed in the direction where she lives and then turned around.

  • Trudy

    Who peed in your Frosted Flakes? If you are so smart why don’t you tell us what you think, versus giving everyone the run around? You’ve been at this for a month and your a “dad” and a “cop” . I think that this point you are an over-invested fan that has too much time on their hands.

  • Monica

    There is a picture of her in the parking lot with her driving away and him in the car with her. They are leaving the studios where he works.

    The pics released don’t necessary come in order and we don’t know what was shot when.

  • Notgoingtolie

    I can guarantee that if Rupert and Kristen had sex everyone of you would be saying if she had just kissed him then this would not be so bad. Since she did not have sex with Rupert you idiots are crucifying her for kissing him.

  • Hmmmm

    For the Kristen haters saying she is terrible for emotionally betraying Rob what do call your declerations of love for Rob? Would your husbands approve of your delusional devotion and “love” for Rob?

  • Mesdjs8485

    Tammy and whom ever else you guys are making me laugh till i cry.

  • Nadedge

    You don’t need to be in love with a celebrity or crush on them to see between right and wrong.

  • andrea

    Why How many of you say that Kristen went to look at him at work when he was already there … Kristen was parking and Rpuerta was there waiting for her?

  • XYZ

    I know. I wished I have that shirt too & hugged Gio. Did you already cast your vote? I won’t reveal here which one and I’m sure you know what I mean .

  • andrea

    I still think that something is not right

  • Hmmmm

    True, but declaring how much you love Rob and admire him, and you hurt when he’s hurting, and he’s so wonderful is emotionally cheating if you are married or in a committed relationship.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    I think your points 2-3 and 5-8 are a great summary. As to #1there are some photos. It is unclear as to whether they were “captured” or “posed”. As to #4 neither Kristen or Rupert have said anything. These are only statements that have been attributed to them through
    people Mag.

  • BREAKING NEWS!!!!!

    NOOOOooooooooo…. shit just hit the fan girls, now we have Fox News “In Defense of Kristen Stewart” annnnnddd…. Huffington Post “Kristen Stewart Shouldn’t be the Cheating Scandal Scapegoat” nooooooo what are we gonna do. The Fox News Article slams all of us 40+ sick
    housewives who have shitty marriages nooooooo. We have to regroup. LadyRain1 and Plum3
    quick round up the rest of the hags and lets meet at the club tonight!!!!

  • Wtf

    Haha!! Priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Chrissie

    See, wherever I saw them didn’t mention it. Thanks for the info! :)

  • XYZ

    Hey… I LOVE IT!!!! I LOVE IT!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!

  • Sotrue

    Read this haters. Article from Fox News.

    For the past couple of weeks the tabloid press has crucified actress Kristen Stewart, star of the blockbust “Twilight” movies for kissing her “Snow White and the Huntsman” director, Rupert Sanders. Stewart had been in a relationship with her “Twilight” co-star Robert Pattinson and fans of the series were devastated by the cheating revelation.

    While news of her indiscretion might have been a legitimate one-day story for the Hollywood press when it first happened, it certainly doesn’t fit the bill as a “matter of public concern,” that deserves extensive coverage.

    Not only is the media’s continued replay of Stewart’s mistake making it almost impossible for her to make up for what she’s done, it is probably placing additional stress on Sander’s marriage and continuing to embarrass his wife.

    It is also making it harder for Stewart’s boyfriend to take her back without feeling the continued sting of humiliation—if deep inside he’d like to give her a second chance.

    In addition to being presumptively portrayed as a ruthless home-wrecker who targeted her male prey, the extensive reporting has been completely imbalanced because it places all of the blame on Stewart and none on Sanders.

    Even Stewart has expressed surprise that Sanders has been essentially given what amounts to a hall pass by the media. Reports surfaced Thursday that Stewart has told people privately that she’s upset the media isn’t at least pointing out that Sanders was “in a position of power over her,” since he was her director, and presumably someone she could work for again.

    There’s a very specific reason Stewart is taking all of the heat, however, and it’s because tabloid journalism has a formula of almost always blaming ‘the other woman’ whenever a major male celebrity has an affair or commits an act of cheating.

    The tabloids have done their own studies based on week-to-week sales, which reveal that since most tabloid gossip readers are middle aged, married women, who prefer to read stories that blame the other woman instead of the cheating married man. That’s because these same readers are addicted to stories that target their own fears—and the idea of a younger woman coming along and stealing their own husband one day is a big one. And after reading about how awful someone else’s life is, they can breathe a sigh of relief and say to themselves, “Well, at least MY marriage isn’t THAT bad!”

    In the Stewart/Sanders story, even some mainstream media outlets have adopted the tabloid formula and blamed the actress for everything.

    A recent caption on an AOL News story literally blamed Stewart for “breaking up a marriage,” while the Huffington Post interviewed so-called ‘experts’ who said she actually—get this—made a “stupid” mistake by publicly apologizing for her indiscretion, thus committing “career suicide.”
    At least Stewart is trying to take responsibility for what she did, which is more than this reporter can say for most people, celebrity or not.

    The tabloid media persecution of Stewart will undoubtedly leave it’s mark on the young star as the tabs have done so many times to other public figures in the past.

    Tabloid persecution does more than just destroy personal relationships and break the spirits of their victims. In the end, it leaves the humiliated victim with a feeling of powerlessness despite whatever stardom they have achieved. It diminishes their legitimate talents and positive accomplishments to nothing while emphasizing a single mistake a person has made throughout their life.

    As Humphrey Bogart said in the 1951 classic, ‘Deadline U.S.A.’, “That’s the press baby. The press! And there’s nothing you can do about it. Nothing!”

    With the upcoming release of “Breaking Dawn 2,” the long anticipated final chapter of the ‘Twilight’ series, there is little chance that the media will let Stewart and Pattinson work this problem out on their own.

    Under the First Amendment, Kristen Stewart’s love life may be fair game, but there’s something else reporters should consider when they toy with the life of a human being, and that is compassion and fair play. The continued coverage of this story may actually be changing the outcome of these people’s lives and making it worse when there could be a chance for all of them to move past this incident.

    Tabloid journalists pointing the finger at a 22-year old woman for a mistake should remember that a kiss is just a kiss, and although sticks and stones may break bones, words… do permanent damage.

    Jeffrey Scott Shapiro was an investigative reporter for the Globe tabloid until he reported his editors to the FBI for criminal violations in 1999. Subsequently, he prosecuted First Amendment related criminal cases for the Washington, D.C. Attorney General’s Office, and is now a frequent critic of tabloid journalism practices

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/17/in-defense-twilight-star-kristen-stewart/#ixzz23pOlasOq

  • here they go again..

    u know i came here to read comments like this..not the article..i didn’t even looked at it..and u r awsome…lol..

  • Onxy

    Blah, Blah , Blah.

  • Sotrue

    Tweet from Delaney

    You have to wonder about society if a celebrity ‘cheating’ on their boyfriend has replaced mass murder (Colorado) as our nation’s #1 sin

  • Nadedge

    If you hurt when he’s hurting then that indicates more of a mental disconnect, than emotional cheating. Some people here don’t realize the difference between admiring a celebrity and having an obsession. I’m not in love with the guy, I think he seems like a nice young man, but the obsession seems to be young and old.

    But the obsession seems to be on both sides. Those who are KS fan, seem to also have a disconnect.

    I think it says a lot about our society and our thoughts on fame and celebrities in general.

  • jst so u know

    i agree with u that all this new things coming around..like Foster’s defending nd now this pic..these will make things a lot worse for ROB than it already is in interviews..They may ask stupid questions about this too..tho He is Strong and Smart enough to dodge those..Thank God for that..

  • jst so u know

    u said what i wanted to say…lol

  • guest

    Yeah, that´s what I´ve been thinking too, it seems to be the last thing on peoples mind that these two actually fell for each other. They´d rather come up with conspiracy theories, one crazier than the other. What´s that really about? The age difference? Well she´s not a kid and he´s not really “an old man” either. Maybe the fact that Rob is considered, by most people, to be more good looking than this Rupert guy (which I personally don´t agree on)
    They were attracted to each other and they acted on their feelings, although they should have known better. It happens all the time and everywhere. Attraction can be a powerful and dangerous force, and it has nothing to do with certain looks or age or anything logical, it´s pure chemistry and it can make people do crazy things without thinking about the consequences. (Been there, done that…)

  • NyPost

    ‘Cosmopolis” is like the theater of the absurd — the kind that isn’t funny. It’s like atonal music, which the untrained ear might mistake for noise. It’s like action painting, a splattery mess. David Cronenberg meets Don DeLillo at last, and it’s as if all the angels of heaven have come together. And said nothing.

    Cronenberg’s film of DeLillo’s novel is humid with strange portents. Gnomic utterances. The random and the jagged. The arch and the abstract. Eric Packer, a billionaire trader, has decided to get a haircut. So he decides to take a day to float across Manhattan in his yacht-size limo in a vortex of nightmarish traffic. (The president is visiting. Riots loom.)

    Robert Pattinson’s (above) acting career gets cheated by the disappointing dud “Cosmopolis,” directed and written by David Cronenberg, and adapted from a Don DeLillo novel about a high-powered financial wizard’s crazy limousine ride around Manhattan.
    Photos: ‘Twilight’ stars in other films

    Packer is played by Robert Pattinson. Part of the joke is that Pattinson is the last guy you would hire to play a major genius who, at age 4, calculated his weight on the various planets. Pattinson’s weak attempts to convey intellection render the overall effect that much stranger.

    PHOTOS: ‘TWILIGHT’ STARS IN OTHER FILMS

    As Packer cruises in his massive automobile, various women and fellow financial wizards (played by, among others, Juliette Binoche, Jay Baruchel, Samantha Morton and Sarah Gadon) appear in the vehicle for sex and financial talk that sounds like the CNBC crawl as rewritten by Jean-Paul Sartre.

    Feast your ears: “People eat and sleep in the shadow of what we do.” “Money has lost its narrative quality the way painting did.” “People will disappear in streams of information. I know nothing about this.”

    A doctor stops in to administer a daily checkup. Packer leans forward for a rectal exam while he keeps talking to one of his many conquests. He learns his prostate is asymmetrical. This ties into a similarly misshapen bet on the Chinese yuan, which is costing Packer hundreds of millions of dollars.

    Packer can’t manage to work up any interest in the fact that an unseen nemesis wants to kill him, but he breaks down in tears when he finds out his favorite rapper is dead.

    Paul Giamatti plays a sinister figure with a towel over his head named Benno Levin. These are the names of two men who succeeded Giamatti’s actual father as president of Yale. And yet — coincidence? — the character name was the same in the book.

    Protesters hurl rats. They cry, “A specter is haunting the world.” Doom lurks. Convergence threatens to become catastrophe. Someone gets a pie in the face.

    Huh?

    There is no energy to “Cosmopolis.” There is nothing resembling humanity. There is not the slightest rumor of a whiff of a hint that DeLillo or Cronenberg knows anything about finance. The climax is as dull as reading the dictionary of a language you do not speak.

    It’s a movie that dares you not to like it. I accept the dare.

    kyle.smith@nypost.com

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/movies/much_ado_about_nothing_yfsLoccLbfhdlgpa3rJx1I#ixzz23pW9RGxd

  • guest

    It shows our priorities are greatly out of place,and those poor people and children lost their lives and they can never be replaced but yet we see someone giving a kiss to a man as a #1 sin then you people are no better than that maniac mass killer in Colorado and shame on everyone for acting like it is an unpardonable sin.

  • XYZ

    It’s almost 30 minutes past & nobody has dared to make further comment. I am wondering why? Do we feel all guilty? I know I am not. I am not trashing Kristen nor Rob. I’m just trashing & making fun to the haters.

  • guest

    I wonder about that too. He’s gotta know she’s being put through hell by the media. But maybe that’s why he made the comment about the tabloids in the interview w/ LA Times Wednesday. (At least I think that’s who it was with)

  • jst so u know

    i don’t know about all te things u said but i agree with u in this..that Rob is way more Strong than ppl thought he would be..i think he was being Indulging to Kstew..like he was so sweet,Humble towards her..But He is indeed Way more Strong..otherwise he could not have faced the media with such class..I think somewhere down the line he is indifferent to all of this..

  • guest

    Seems to me Paps are being given the run of the world, ask Liam Hemsworth!

  • Sotrue

    I think all this truth and facts has stunned the haters.

  • jst so u know

    lol!!!! Banging head against wall!!!! hahah…i love the name..

  • XYZ

    Am I wrong if I am blaming the media who is running all this cheating news instead of the mass murder? I saluted what Rob said – “Every time I’ve looked at a magazine like that, I’ve regretted it. I gain absolutely nothing from it. And neither does anyone else.”.

  • Zaynab

    Rob PLEEESE take Kristen back.Every1 makes mistakes.She’s my fave actress!!,

  • one who knows

    Twilighter – I did some idle browsing and in furthering your research……what did you think of the statements printed about Rob criticising the media? I found that there was a documentary of the effects of the paparrazzi called “smash his camera” in which Rob played himself, but in archived footage. I did not see the doc, only read the info about it (there were also many others that participated). The documentary won some kind of award at 2010 Sundance. I

    More food for thought…..what new info do you have for us?

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    The Grand Punk- Part 5
    [NOTE: I have posted this to all four comment sections of GP’s Separating Fact From Fiction, Parts 1-5 see them for previous arguments as to why this “scandal” looks bogus.

    Sometimes when things seem too unbelievable to be true, they are just that: not worthy of belief. I think this whole “scandal” was dreamed up and brilliantly executed by Rob, Kristen, and Rupert and that the celebrity gossip machine is about to get punked big time. It’s a big payback for all the crap Rob and Kristen have had to put up with for years. And I think there is also something even more significant behind it.

    In Part 1 earlier we examined the context of the “scandal” and the version of events according to FameFly Net, the paparazzi firm that purportedly photographed it. In Part 2, we critically examined that version of events and their photographic evidence. In Part 3 we further examined more of the evidence and what occurred around the time of the incident and as it came to light. In Part 4 we examined where the key photographic evidence was actually filmed and why FameFlyNet/US Magazine had no clue about this.

    You can take a look at all of the pictures at PopSugar. GP will no longer allow me to post the link. To find them just google Kristen Kissing Rupert PopSugar. I refer to the pictures using their numbering sequence.

    Once again, I apologize for the length of this post, but as we often see, it is easier to quickly tell a lie than it is to correct it with the truth.

    Part 5
    Despite the rash of stories and rumors that have flooded the internet for the last three weeks, what we know about this incident since after the night of July 22nd at the TCA’s is surprisingly little and is a lot easier to describe than you may think. Here goes:

    1. Neither Rob nor Kristen, has ever been seen or directly heard from since the night of the TCA’s on July 22nd until Rob’s appearance in NYC on August 13th to promote Cosmopolis and a couple times thereafter.

    2. After the “scandal” broke on July 23-24th, Liberty Ross was only eventually seen out without her wedding ring on August 6 and has been seen out a couple times since.

    3. Later still, on August 7th, Liberty and Rupert were seen out together for the first time.

    And that’s it. I’m not going to go through the hundreds of ridiculous stories that have exploded across the internet since as they are examples of what the celebrity gossip machine does best, MAKE UP STORIES. Stories of moving vans and dog custody fights; debates over Rob being a man whore, a bisexual, at the ranch, or drunk dialing Kristen; stories of Kristen’s not bathing, crying her eyes out, partying with Lindsey Lohan, and having had affairs with everyone of her past costars. All of it is nonsense, and most importantly, none of it is verifiable save for the unidentified “sources”.

    GC has done a good job of cataloging a lot of this other nonsense as nonsense, but they too can’t resist the irresistible “sources” either, and that has led them astray as well. But I will go through a couple claims that GC claims as truth, just to show you that we can confirm even less than what even they claim is true. Here is what GC adds (in arguable increasing order of importance):

    1. That Kristen was asked to move out of Los Feliz.
    2. That following the “scandal” Rob may have momentarily stayed at Reece’s ranch but was gone by the time the story broke.
    3. That Kristen has dropped out of Cali.
    4. That Rupert is now focusing all his attention on repairing his marriage to Liberty Ross, and it’s been a “very difficult” time for them.
    5. That despite Kristen’s public apology and first time open declaration of love for Rob, Rob was “blindsided”, is still very “upset” by her cheating, and is not prepared to discuss the matter at all with her. Although perhaps more recently, they are at least talking.
    6. That while Kristen & Rupert definitely fooled around, they did not have sex.
    7. That Kristen and Rupert’s hookups occurred in the last few weeks — not during the filming of Snow White and the Huntsman.
    8. That Kristen and Rupert admitted the “scandal” and apologized to their significant others via statements to People Magazine.

    Let’s take a look at the first four first. If you look at each story carefully even within GC, they are equivocal and/or are always relying on the unnamed “sources” for their reliability. Who asked Kristen to move and when. Was it Rob himself or his close friend Sam Bradley or Marcus Foster. Rob may have stayed at Reece’s or did he stay longer? Confirmed by whom or what? As for Cali, Kristen quit (??), yet no confirmation from her people and no announcement yet (of what) from Voltage Films? And yet, GC makes that a 10 undoubtedly based on their “sources”. As for Rupert’s focus, according to whom, confirmed by what?

    Then the next four, who says Rob is not talking to her? And how does anyone “confirm” that Rupert and Kristen did not have sex and that the whole affair happened in the last few weeks? Because someone said so? At best, GC is relating what others supposedly said. Yet other say that they did, and others say that they didn’t, but at the end of the day it’s all idle speculation. GP is no more knowledgeable than the rest of them but for their so-called “sources” And why should we believe them at all? Because GC says their sources are impeccable?

    And what about #8. That is the one that really holds this whole “scandal” scenario together, even if it defies reason. And uniquely, it’s the one thing that was theoretically under Kristen’s control. Let’s examine the admissions.

    Well first of all, neither Kristen nor Rupert have admitted anything themselves. Neither have called a press conference and spoken directly to the media or the public. And perhaps never will. Their “confessions” come in the form of “statements” released purportedly by their representatives to People Magazine. What we call in the law, multiple hearsay. Magazine says that Kristen’s representative said that Kristen said. Ditto Rupert.

    Second, the statements themselves are lacking in any detail and as many have noted, are actually quite bizarre. Take Kristen’s for instance. If believed, she in it for the first time clearly and unequivocally professes her love for Rob as she apologizes in a very public manner for taking part in a momentary indiscretion. Why the need for a public apology at all? And don’t tell me it’s because Rob was refusing to take her calls. There are plenty of channels and people through which she could have reached out to him other than broadcasting it to People Magazine. Why make matters worse and embarrass him in the public eye? In a very public manner, all for a momentary indiscretion. And who’s to say they made them as truthful statements even if they said them?

    Third, fact is people falsely confess to wrongdoing more often than you might believe. That’s why investigators corroborate details of a confession to make sure that it reliable, is un-coerced, is accurate, and not made by someone who is mentally ill, drugged, seeking notoriety, or acting out of a motivation other than providing the truth. I’ve seen it happen involving suspects even in murder cases.

    Fourth, and once again because these are only “released” statements, we are unable to see the confessor’s demeanor, or subject them to questioning, or to cross examination, let alone assessing the credibility of those passing on the information.

    Yet, if you have believed this and everything else that has been feed to you about this cheating “scandal”, Kristen must be about the most cruel and vicious girlfriend of all times.
    1. She wears one of Rob’s favorite hats to her tryst and goes out of her way to make sure you see it multiple times. 2. She wears Rob’s sweatpants and uses them to let Rupert dryhump her from the rear in broad daylight in a public place in front of the paparazzi that she obviously knows are there. And laughs and smiles about it for the cameras. After virtually never allowing photographers to so much as see her kissing Rob for over four years. 3. Shortly after her cheating she enjoys a night out with Rob at a Bobby Long concert where she flirts with him and plays the part of the loving girlfriend. 4. She continues the charade at the TCA’s and elsewhere as though the indiscretion never happened. 5. And professes her love for him to the world for the first time as she confesses she cheated with another man, embarrassing him further.
    Based on everything that you know, does she hate him so much that it is worth it to destroy her own career to deliver that message? Based on what, according to whom, and confirmed by what unnamed source?

    If it looks like a duck, and walks like a fish, and quacks like a pig, then it probably is just that: a bunch of nonsense unworthy of belief.

    There is little doubt that the “overlook” photos were staged and filmed prior to the “alleged” date of this scandal at 7267 PACIFIC VIEW DRIVE in Los Angeles sometime around midday, not at some secluded overlook. Google Earth that address, adjust view to NW and look up the street. I didn’t say the photos themselves are fake, I said they were staged. There is a difference. And if you still have a doubt, why has Kristen’s eye shadow gone through an amazing touchup in US Magazines’s two money shots (PopSugar #5 and #16) after a daylong tryst and yet she isn’t made up that way in many of the others that are taken at the same place? I can’t say the same about the car makeout photos. They could have been filmed anywhere. But they also have features (the disappearing photographers) that I cannot say with equal confidence that some of them have not been altered.

    At least where two of the car pictures were taken have been identified and the place is again inconsistent with the FameFlyNet/US Mag. version of events and more consistent with them being staged. They are PopSugar #26 and #37. To see where they were taken, google earth 2294 S. Centalena Avenue, LA. Go to street view and adjust view to nearly due North and magnify to the corner of where the magnify to the left side of the two story building with the red tile roof through the fence meets a white wall, Compare it carefully with the two PopSugar photos. Also don’t get confused by the image’s address next to the gate which is 2270. The image matches up to numbers #26 and #37. This is not a rundown section of the city. It also offers no cover for a paparazzi. But its the perfect place to stage a photo and it is also around the corner from where Rupert Sanders is listed as a director under MJZ Productions at 2201 S. Carmelena Avenue.

    Much has been written on this blog claiming that there was nothing to gain by any of the parties to fake this incident and punk everyone. But just for the sake of argument let’s assume Rob, Kristen, Rupert, and Liberty agreed to stage this incident and create a punk of the celebrity gossip machine. What would they have to gain? And would it be a career ending prank as many have argued?

    Get real. A successfully executed punk would propel their collective careers, not end them. Let’s count the reasons why:

    1. Notoriety
    Rob and Kristen’s career arcs were already stratospheric, particularly with some age cohorts, but I think it’s hard to argue that their notoriety would not be even more broad following this manufactured “scandal” . A quick scan of the posters on this blog suggests that there are many who are very familiar with this story now even though they were not otherwise fans of Twilight before or followed any of their careers. If this ends with a happily ever after, that notoriety is even more assured.
    Rupert Sanders and his wife Liberty were far less known, she a former Vogue model and he the director of a reasonably successful reboot of a popular fairytale. Prior to this incident, far more people were familiar with the movie because of the involvement of Kristen, Charlize Theron, and Chris Hemsworth, not them. If this was all staged and Rupert and Liberty played a key role in it, they each become part of a Hollywood legend. You think that would hurt their careers?

    2. Sweet Revenge
    Both Rob and Kristen have been hounded by the paparazzi, and the celebrity gossip machine, and the ever present bloggers of gossip websites ever since their involvement in Twilight. They have both been accused of being gay, being drug abusers, being married, being engaged, and being pregnant multiple times; being involved in a faux romance to bilk even more money out of the unsuspecting fans; and being talentless actors. If this all turns out to be staged and a hoax, every person who believed it has to admit Kristen is a pretty good actress. And certainly a lot smarter and more cunning than they are. And every person who uttered an unkind comment about either of them would have to reflect on what compelled them to do so.
    For years Kristen has been accused of being talentless, one expression, one-dimensional actress by some although she is roundly praised by those who have worked with her. This is mostly because she had the audacity to get involved in a relationship with Rob. Considering how many people have been driven to calling her a skank, a whore, and home wrecker because she convinced them that this scandal actually happened, it would be a lot harder for them to ever argue that again. Maybe not a great actress, but certainly good enough to make fools of them.
    3. Publicity
    There is little question that this incident has thrust all four of them into the public eye far beyond where each of them had been. They say that there is no such thing as bad publicity and for people who work in the entertainment business, publicity is everything. Currently for Kristen and Rupert, the publicity is negative, as they are there as the hated, the cheaters. For Liberty and Rob, they have the more desirable roles as the sympathetic victims, the unjustly wronged. But if they spring the trap and tell the world it was all staged, the story has a happy ending and all four of them come out as winners. To be followed by an endless series of further articles as to how it was pulled off, further propelling the notoriety and publicity about them.

    4. Privacy
    With the trap effectively accomplished, I can’t help but feel that the celebrity gossip machine would have to back off, if only for a while, and if only by a notch or two. But you got to believe that they might not want to mess with Ms. Stewart and Mr. Pattinson for awhile. Especially regarding some claimed impropriety. It may afford Rob and Kristen a little more personal space that they desperately crave.

    5. Financial Success
    Do you think for one moment that if this was staged and has a happy ending, that BD2 would not be even more wildly successful than ever, perhaps even the most successful of all. After all, it would the last of the series, and would be the first where everyone going in would know that Rob and Kristen were really together both on and off the screen. Twitards would be more enthralled than ever as “the dream lives on” even stronger than before. Others who maybe have never been familiar with the saga prior to this incident would be drawn to see it because of it.

    The reason most people do not appreciate the benefits of a well executed punk is because they are looking at the situation as it appears currently. But if Rob Kristen Rupert and Liberty spring the trap and collectively yell you’ve been punked, this is not a career ending prank, but rather a boon to their careers. I think it is conceivable to doubt the prank, but it’s hard to argue against these benefits if in fact one is occurring.

    But they could only let this run so long. It’s hard to comprehend this “scandal” is only three weeks old.

    But I think there a couple good reasons to suspect that we are very close to the end.

    First, this prank was launched with perfect timing during the Olympics when 20,000 journalists were distracted by the going ons there. The Olympics are over and their collective attention have the potential to drill holes into this “scandal”. Second, Rob and Kristen have used the periods to go underground for over three weeks (since July 22) perhaps the longest time without a sighting for each of them. Whatever they were up to, they have had plenty of time to enjoy. Third, it can’t go on forever and eventually Kristen will have to venture back onto the streets. Quite frankly, it’s not safe for her to be out there in this atmosphere with the number of crazies there are and the venom they are spouting. 4. Rupert and Liberty can only afford to go along with it for so long. And finally, the longer they wait, the harder it is to keep it under wraps.

    Rob arguably passed on his first opportunity to pull the punk on during his time in NY, but nothing he did or said there is enlightening one way or the other.

    More in Part 6 later.

  • guest

    OMG, this article is even better than the Jodie Foster one! Thank you for posting this! This is the sort of stuff I would write if I was any good at expressing myself in words. But I’m not sure about the part saying Kristen spoke to someone about the situation. In reality it could of been another member of the Stewart family. I think Kristen’s public apology was done out of desperation for Rob to forgive her.

  • one who knows

    And there was no “public” apology, only written stataements give to the media by reps.

  • one who knows

    And we don’t know who told who anything.

  • BS

    Wow how the tides have turn the support for Kristen has risen. All the so called haters have done it make Kristen likeable. Thx haters I hope all parties involve can heal from this situation and I don’t care if rob or Kristen get back together or not I still support both. And as a true fan of this series all this fighting is really starting to ruin this series for me, I thought I would say this but I can’t wait for this series to end maybe then ppl will move on.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Sorry but I’m getting a little frustrated by people who stand around and wait to get spoon feed what they should believe whether its by US Magazine, People, or by me for that matter. This is not that tough and I am not that smart, I just pay attention. And if you think that the argument I’ve made is the ravings of a crazed fan, then don’t believe it, its a free country. At least so far.

  • guest

    Why are all the idiots from Awful Truth here??

  • guest

    A whole week of following her, doesn’t that qualify as stalking!? Why can’t something be done about the papz?

  • one who knows

    It has stunned everyone who hasn’t had an open mind to other possibilites, only relying on just what has been being fed to them by the unreliable media. Those people don’t have any interest in obtaining the truth, they have already made up their minds and just want to babble. Hope they never get picked for jury duty.

  • andrea

    Me too when I read Rob’s interview about the tabloids missed me … Why now attack the press?

    Be that something has changed for him? Worries for Kristen for the media lynching? Or just coincidence?

    I do not believe in coincidences.

  • andrea

    Cosmo received a lot of good criticism but too bad criticism… it´s a different movie, normally Cronenberg go on better in Europe.

  • andrea

    Unfortunately it seems that Kristen has committed a crime worthy of going to Alcatraz …. is a shame that people do not know to differentiate the major problems in the world.

  • andrea

    Do not blame the press … I think the press and the public has a fair hand.

    The public wants bait and media wanting to make money give them … vice is a circle.

    If people would not give importance to what happens to celebrities would not pass those things.

    I can understand a movement Fans online when for example a singer, actor, etc … dies or has an accident but this is ridiculous … long life to think about the poor have some.

  • andrea

    These enemies are those who see Kristen out they ask her for an autograph .

  • andrea

    I hope not!

    And also I would not like to be friends of them who judge first and are able to make your life hell.

  • andrea

    and sure more newspapers will do it… maybe after Jodie´s article, a lot of them have reconsidered all the bad words about her.

  • one who knows

    He made that statement now because he was conveniently already out in public, he didn’t make a special public appearance just to make that statement. And it is not anything that he has not implied before in other interviews.

  • one who knows

    good one

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Get real. A successfully executed punk would propel their collective careers, not end them. Let’s count the reasons why:

    1. Notoriety
    Rob and Kristen’s career arcs were already stratospheric, particularly with some age cohorts, but I think it’s hard to argue that their notoriety would not be even more broad following this manufactured “scandal” . A quick scan of the posters on this blog suggests that there are many who are very familiar with this story now even though they were not otherwise fans of Twilight before or followed any of their careers. If this ends with a happily ever after, that notoriety is even more assured.
    Rupert Sanders and his wife Liberty were far less known, she a former Vogue model and he the director of a reasonably successful reboot of a popular fairytale. Prior to this incident, far more people were familiar with the movie because of the involvement of Kristen, Charlize Theron, and Chris Hemsworth, not them. If this was all staged and Rupert and Liberty played a key role in it, they each become part of a Hollywood legend. You think that would hurt their careers?

    2. Sweet Revenge
    Both Rob and Kristen have been hounded by the paparazzi, and the celebrity gossip machine, and the ever present bloggers of gossip websites ever since their involvement in Twilight. They have both been accused of being gay, being drug abusers, being married, being engaged, and being pregnant multiple times; being involved in a faux romance to bilk even more money out of the unsuspecting fans; and being talentless actors. If this all turns out to be staged and a hoax, every person who believed it has to admit Kristen is a pretty good actress. And certainly a lot smarter and more cunning than they are. And every person who uttered an unkind comment about either of them would have to reflect on what compelled them to do so.
    For years Kristen has been accused of being talentless, one expression, one-dimensional actress by some although she is roundly praised by those who have worked with her. This is mostly because she had the audacity to get involved in a relationship with Rob. Considering how many people have been driven to calling her a skank, a whore, and home wrecker because she convinced them that this scandal actually happened, it would be a lot harder for them to ever argue that again. Maybe not a great actress, but certainly good enough to make fools of them.
    3. Publicity
    There is little question that this incident has thrust all four of them into the public eye far beyond where each of them had been. They say that there is no such thing as bad publicity and for people who work in the entertainment business, publicity is everything. Currently for Kristen and Rupert, the publicity is negative, as they are there as the hated, the cheaters. For Liberty and Rob, they have the more desirable roles as the sympathetic victims, the unjustly wronged. But if they spring the trap and tell the world it was all staged, the story has a happy ending and all four of them come out as winners. To be followed by an endless series of further articles as to how it was pulled off, further propelling the notoriety and publicity about them.

    4. Privacy
    With the trap effectively accomplished, I can’t help but feel that the celebrity gossip machine would have to back off, if only for a while, and if only by a notch or two. But you got to believe that they might not want to mess with Ms. Stewart and Mr. Pattinson for awhile. Especially regarding some claimed impropriety. It may afford Rob and Kristen a little more personal space that they desperately crave.

    5. Financial Success
    Do you think for one moment that if this was staged and has a happy ending, that BD2 would not be even more wildly successful than ever, perhaps even the most successful of all. After all, it would the last of the series, and would be the first where everyone going in would know that Rob and Kristen were really together both on and off the screen. Twitards would be more enthralled than ever as “the dream lives on” even stronger than before. Others who maybe have never been familiar with the saga prior to this incident would be drawn to see it because of it.

    The reason most people do not appreciate the benefits of a well executed punk is because they are looking at the situation as it appears currently. But if Rob Kristen Rupert and Liberty spring the trap and collectively yell you’ve been punked, this is not a career ending prank, but rather a boon to their careers. I think it is conceivable to doubt the prank, but it’s hard to argue against these benefits if in fact one is occurring.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Sure did and obviously looked at them a lot closer than you did.

    Let’s start with what I’ll call the CAR MAKE OUT SESSION photos and Fame Fly Net’s version of events.

    a. How does Rupert get to the area and into the car where the car makeout session happens? Per FameFlyNet’s version, Kristen is already there in place waiting for him, the pap is watching and waiting, and has followed her there intentionally because he was “curious” as to why she is there. Remember, Kristen purportedly dropped Rupert near his house at the end of the day so if you believe that you have to wonder how did Rupert get there in the first place? Take a cab? Walk? Materialize from thin air? Irrespective of that, why would Kristen wait alone for Rupert in an rundown area of town in an abandoned warehouse area (dangerous???) for 15 minutes if she was really there all alone? And most importantly, why wasn’t Rupert’s arrival photographed. The minute anybody or any car approaches Kristen’s Mini Cooper, you would expect that that paparazzi’s shutter is going to be flying.
    But yet, we don’t get one photo of his arrival or entry into the car as he “slips discreetly” into the car (See LA Times article and FameFlyNets version of events). And precious few others were taken while she was purportedly there for seemingly minutes. What kind of pap is this? Ran out film? Ran out batteries? What’s the deal with this paparazzi? Not paying attention? Can’t identify Rupert. No video camera?

    And if there are other pictures or video, why is US Magazine or FameFlyNet holding them back if they have more of them. Some may argue that they are holding them back to drag out the story and make more of it and more off of it. That they will be released later. Perhaps, but it doesn’t exactly make you warm and fuzzy about their credibility does it. And the claim from PopSugar is that they have all the photos. So if they have more, cough them up. The burden of persuasion is on them. And until they do if they exist at all, based on what little they have provided thus far, it’s a little bit early to be calling someone a whore, a homewrecker, a trampire, or anything else.

    b. Why were the photos released in a scrambled order and why are they incomplete? The scrambling is obvious if you look at what order they are in when they were provided. This may seem like a minor matter, but it certainly doesn’t help clarify what really happened that day. There should be many more photos and video for that matter. Yet they intentionally try to make it difficult to comprehend the sequence of events. As other have rightly pointed out, other than the version of events provided by them, how do we know whether the car makeout session happened first and the overlook second, or the other way around. (More on that in Part 3 of the Grand Punk) The mere photos themselves do not establish the sequence of events.

    c. What do the photos actually show? Much has been made of what people think appears in the photos as opposed to what you actually see when you look at them. Close face to face proximity, Kristen flexing her bicep, suggestions they are kissing, but certainly nothing showing how he is “kissing all over her body” as they claim. That line in FameFlyNet’s version of events is intentionally designed to titillate people’s sexual imagination, but the photos themselves fall far short. As much as some have wanted to see oral sex happening here, you sure can’t see it in these photos unless you want to use your imagination. But is that what the evidence shows? Ever sat in the front of a mini Cooper? Not impossible but there is a reason they call it a mini. I challenge anyone to show us which photos proves that Rupert went down or Kristen or that she ever removed an item of her clothing during the entire incident, whether it be her shirt, her bra, her sweatpants, or anything else.

    d. And what of the reflection in the car door? See this one for an example and look at the rest. http://www.popsugar.com/Kriste... Where is the photographer in the reflection? He has to somewhere? And irrespective of where he is in this one or in any of the others or what angle he is to the car, note how the building shown in the reflection in Kristen’s door is relatively close. This is not a high powered telephoto shot taken from great distance. There is not enough room for the photographer to stay hidden as he or she takes the photo. And yet they are not there, they simply disappear. And don’t tell me he’s on the roof of the building. The angle is wrong, and remember, he was just casually following Kristen, how does he know he needs to bring a ladder to climb buildings.

    e. Following up on d. above, both Kristen and Rupert would have had to have known that the photographer was there. Unless of course he or she was invisible which we know can’t be the case. Both of them look to the camera. See PopSugar 31 and 47 where Kristen turns and looks to the camera and Rubert eyes the camera. This building reflection appears in every photo of the car makeout session provided, making it clear that all of them are from one and only one location.

    e. Why no video? When so many of these cameras provide that capability or these paparazzi have easy access to a video camera. To busy taking photos? Then why aren’t there more photos of them in and around the car?

    f. And finally, the entire FameFlyNet version of events is that Kristen is so into Rupert and so out of control. Yet the only photos we get of her actual face are two partials that show anything but passion, the two bicep flex photos Popsugar #4 and 52, and # 31 where she looks back in the direction of the camera with a look that would be impossible to describe as passionate.

    WHAT OF THE OTHER MAKEOUT LOCATION PHOTOS BEFORE THEY REACH HOLLYWOOD OVERLOOK?

    a. As much as FameFlyNet and US Magazine try to imply that Kristen and Rupert drove all over town looking for places to make out, their photos fail to establish any other location was involved in terms of them making out with each other other than at the overlook. Zilch! Zero!. Nada! Despite the original paparazzi’s call for reinforcements, no photos, no description, no video, no details, nothing as to any other place. This assertion is completely unsubstantiated. And if not, why not?

    WHICH TAKES US TO THE HOLLYWOOD OVERLOOK

    a. How do paparazzi now numbering four according to FameFlyNet and US, even get into a position to be able to see what they see and why don’t they see and film more? This should have been the most photographed scene in history of celebrity photags, and yet all we get is roughly 27 photos, many of them innocuous? (See PopSugar 3,8,13,23,55) We should have this incident from multiple views, videos, with virtually everything but sound, and instead we get the slop that everyone has gotten so excited about, which is a very limited slice of “reality” if it’s reality at all. If there are other pictures or video US Magazine, bring them on. But in the current absence, the burden of persuasion as to the truth of their assertions remains on US Mag & FameFlyNet. And there is nothing worse than a claim based on a partially told story.

    b. In one of them, Rupert is standing sort of looking over the guardrail with a …. CELLPHONE ??? to his ear. Am I seeing things or is that what it looks like. Take a look at PopSugar #55. Did he decide to take a break from his marathon makeout sessions to make a call or two? And what about Kristen in the same photo, is she on a call as well?.

    c. Another thing I noticed as an avid photographer was the remarkable clarity, depth of field, and a lack of lens distortion of any kind in the overlook photos particularly. Compare these images to what you see at the car makeout session. Long telephoto lenses, particularly super longs, when shooting from a distance tend to flatten perspective making everything that is in focus seem like it is closer to the same plane, not to mention flattened depth of field. They are also harder to hand hold (which leads to camera shake bluriness) because the angle of view of the lens is so narrow. And lens and barrel distortion as well as other design issues with even modern high tech lenses can lead to a deterioration of the image. Especially when you are zooming at the farther end of a telephoto.

    Why is this important? Something tells me that this camera is a lot closer to them at the overlook than it was at the car makeout session and again too close for the photographer to evade observation. Unless of course they were posing for them and not worried about the photographer standing there.

    I am not saying that the images are completely fabricated. I am here focusing on the issue of how far the photographer was from the picture’s subjects when it was taken and what that may or may not suggest about whether they knew they were there.

    d. Which leads to another observation about both sets of photos. Even if you accept what some have said about what they show, is there anything about them that definitively reveals whether they were authentic or whether Kristen and Rupert merely posed for them.

    e. And let get right to it. The famed dry hump pictures. Of her but with her clothes on. Rupert is able to bring her to the heights of ecstacy without even taking off her clothes. Right. Again, maybe the delusions of some guy’s wet dream but utterly lacking in believability. Which is maybe why in several photos it appears that one or the other of them is laughing.

    It looks more like her acting like a porn star. Remember the plot of Cali, and Kristen’s statements about it?

    Look at them PopSugar 9???, 17 Rupert looks to the camera, 19,20,21, oh how passionate. 22 with Kristen leaning over with her hair flying. 35 my personal favorite, if this is a look of passion, I have never seen one like it before. 41 another Kristen hair flying leaner with both of them laughing. 43, 44, and the final hair flyer 50. Is this passion, someone’s imagination, or a joke.

    f. Again, consider the context. Everything about this so called incident is so out of character for Kristen. Broad daylight, interlude in a public place without any attempt to hide her identity? This woman is probably among the most recognizable women on planet. And the object of every paparazzi’s desire. She knows it and she knows that she is constantly being followed. Why at the overlook is Kristen so obviously identifiable when people are so-calledly all over place interrupting their interlude?

    People hiking, people walking dogs. People going to SEE THE HOLLYWOOD SIGN. No one could mistake identifying her, particularly in PopSugar #8, #23, and #55, and all the rest of them for that matter. And yet she continues the conduct in open view with no attempt to hide herself despite waving around Rob’s hat so that it could be seen. And no photos of her trying to avoid detection as FameFlyNet claims or photos of hikers or dog walkers interrupting them.

    It took years for the paparazzi to even catch her holding hands with Rob (Paris tarmac) and years more to catch her in a long distance, blurry full-on make out session (in Montreal during OTR) and that is virtually the only time since other than at Cannes. Is she really going to parade around LA with a married guy with children guy twice her age and dry hump him for all the world to see? Is this in any way consistent with her character? It may be consistent with some guy’s demented wetdream, or some poor porno film, but it isn’t consistent with anything else we have seen from her before.

    g. Well you could say that people act out of character every day and that she was madly in lust and couldn’t control herself. But if that were the case, why not just strip in the car and have real sex. Why not go into bushes at the overlook and have real sex. Why go out at all. Why not just get a hotel. If they were both so out of control, why is the contact between them so limited. Take a really close look at the pictures again at the overlook. Suggestive perhaps, but his hands are never anywhere inappropriate in the many where you can clearly see them. Hugging, spooning while standing, close face to face contact, smiling but not even kissing. Don’t fill in what you are seeing, just look at them. They looked posed, and not very well posed at that. Remember, Hollywood is all about illusions.

    h. Finally Kristen wears Rob’s favorite hat to her tryst and goes out of her way to make sure you see it multiple times. Interesting in one photo PopSugar 55, as she’s seen walking from the car to the overlook she obviously doesn’t have it, but apparently must go back to get it to get it to make sure it’s in the photos at the guardrail (See PopSugar,10,12, 14, 30, 32,40,51,54, and walking to Rupert in 55. And my personal favorites the money the US Magazine Money Shots 5 and 16. But no, the hat is missing in 8, 9, 17, 19,20,21, 22,28,35,41,43,44, and 50. I think that what they call a continuity error in the business.

    And never in the entire incident at the overlook does she put it on her head to hid her identity in the entire sequence.

    i. She even wears Rob’s sweatpants and uses them to let Rupert dry hump her in her clothes from the rear in broad daylight in a public place in front of the paparazzi that she obviously sees. And laughs and smiles about it for the cameras. After virtually never allowing photographers to so much as see her kissing Rob for over four years. I don’t know about you, but I think it’s pretty much human nature that when two people are into each other, and engaged in the kinds of activities that US Magazine wants us to believe happened here, they share a level of intimacy that usually includes lots of eye to eye contact. That is the essence of what we call “chemistry”, when a mere look between two people imparts a host of other information and communication between them without them even having to do or say much else. And as Kristen once said in an interview, it really is all in the eyes.
    Part of what drew a lot of people into believing Rob and Kristen were the real deal in the first place was the eye contact they made over and over again at countless (not making a movie) events as their relationship developed.
    Now let’s again take a look at what I have previously called the overlook makeout photos. According to FameFlyNet, Kristen & Rupert, had already previously engaged in this torrid marathon makeout session in her car at other locations that day and spent the afternoon driving around LA looking for places to make out. Yet, once they get to the overlook, find one picture where Kristen is actually making direct eye contact with Rupert. Don’t hurt yourself trying, there isn’t one. None. Nada. Not even as Kristen leaves her car and walks towards him. If you see one, tell me.
    You could say that the photographers (remember four by now) somehow managed to miss that or at least failed to get a picture of that. But I have debunked that notion in earlier posts and don’t need to beat a dead horse.
    The closest we get to any shared intimacy is the ridiculous dry humping photos I shredded in the last post and a couple of hugs, most where we don’t even hardly see her face and there is nary a furtive glance between them.
    b. Another aspect of physical intimacy between people who are really into each other often is the need to touch each other, frequently manifested by hand holding, hand caresses, and in the extreme, intimate touching. Yet, in all of these photos at the overlook, the closest they get to an intimate touching with hands is in hugging, him with his hand on her arm pit or with hands on hands. There were plenty of opportunities (particularly during the dry hump) where Rupert could have touched her breasts, put his hand under her shirt or down her sweatpants for that matter, and yet none of that was ever photographed or provided. His hands are always in “appropriate” non-erogenous zones as are hers.
    Well you could they are just both shy and retiring, but that would be ridiculous given their lengthy day time tryst, their plain view appearance at the overlook, and their purported willingness to dry hump each other in broad daylight. Just another aspect of these photos that doesn’t make sense at all.
    c. Another aspect of two people who are being intimate with each other is their willingness to open themselves up and let each other invade their personal space. And I mean this quite literally. Not to be to coarse or crude about it, but to put it bluntly, it’s pretty difficult to have non-forced intercourse with a woman who fails to open her legs for you. Take a look at what Kristen’s body language says about her willingness to have Rupert between her legs. Note the rather odd configuration of Kristen’s legs in virtually all of the photos at the overlook. She is frequently turned at an angle to him or her feet are pointing in directions inconsistent with “come on in”, or appear to be planted right next to each other. Not definitive in isolation, but what does this say in relation to everything else?
    d. I suppose all of this could be explained away as they had tired themselves out by that time in the day. But remember FameFly Net/US Magazine’s claim as they arrived at the overlook, after Rupert directs her where to park, and I quote:
    “ By then it was 5:15 PM and the two stayed in the car, SLOUCHED DOWN AND KISSING LIKE TEENS AS NEIGHBORS HIKED BY. When it seemed quiet in the park, the two dared to leave the car to take in the view. Leaning against the guard rail, he embraced her from behind and caressed her hand and side, ‘She was swept up in the moment.’ But they kept their guard up. ‘A few people would walk by, and as soon as they heard a voice, they would split up and walk in other directions.’ When a group of people with a dog came along, the two RETREATED TO HER CAR TO KISS FOR ANOTHER 20 MINUTES before leaving’’. (internal quotes are US Magazine’s, not mine. All caps sections are mine for emphasis.)
    Don’t hurt yourself trying to find the photographic or video evidence confirming these other portions of the overlook incident other than the guardrail photos. No kissing in the car as neighbors hike by, or twenty minutes of kissing in the car afterward, or of them splitting up as they kept their guard up. Nada. None. Only one of Kristen walking alone presumedly towards the guardrail PopSugar #23, leaving her car as Rupert is across the road PopSugar 8, and the cell phone calls photo PopSugar #55
    e. And perhaps even more damming yet, if the photographers were secreting themselves and shooting with telephoto lens making their detection impossible, HOW COULD THEY TELL THAT “EVERYTIME THEY [Rupert and Kristen] HEARD A VOICE” they would split up….
    This is FameFlyNet’s/US Magazine’s version of events, not mine. If they were close enough to hear the voices, they were too close to go undetected by Rupert and Kristen.

    f. But it gets even better. Remember they claim its after 5:15 in the PM. Take a look at any of the car makeout photos which would have had to have been from earlier in the day if they are truthful. Compare PopSugar 47 and 48. The further the two of them (Kristen & Rupert) are in the car, the more they appear in the shadows. The lighting is from above, the sun, and it’s relatively high in the sky (closer to midday or so) or else the sun would illuminate further into the car and as it heads downwards towards sunset, across the car.

    Now take a look at these three overlook photos ( PopSugar 8, 23, and 55) and carefully note the length of Kristen and Rupert’s shadow. 55 is probably the best, as Kristen is fully upright with a clean shadow. It’s obviously that her shadow is very short, significantly less than half her total body height. Ditto for him. Now rely on your trigonometric and astronomy knowledge, or for you math and astronomy challenged types, go to this handy little sun shadow applet at: http://www.jgiesen.de/sunshado... .

    If you plug in LA’s long/lat 34N 118W, check the dst box, and note that Kristen’s height is about 65 inches (reported as 5 feet 6). Per the calculation , her shadow should be about slightly longer than her actual height at a ratio of 10 to 10.86 at 4:00 PM. Even at 3:00 PM her shadow would be at about 2/3 of her height, 10 to 6.87. And at 1:00 PM her shadow should be at somewhat less than 4/10ths of her actual height. 10 to 4.18.

    Her shadow in these photographs is nowhere near equal to her height and thus could not have been taken after 4:00 PM as they claim, but was taken much closer to about 1:00 PM. This is the best evidence yet that FameFlyNet is lying about its version of events. You can lie about what happened but you can’t defy the laws of physics.

    g. And not to put to fine a point it, ditto with Kristen and Rupert sharing a final kiss as she eventually drops him off near his house after the alleged incident. No photos, no video, nothing.
    h. Now some have argued that the photographers are holding back, that there really are more photos and video . That doesn’t change the above conclusions, but do you really think US Magazine or FameFlyNet is not going buy or control everything that these photographers have?
    Unless, of course, the photographer or photographers are actually independent contractors, free lancers that called with a story and some photos. (I will expound on the significance of this issue at in Part4 later)
    And even if it is the case, that something is being held back, at least for the time being, we have to assume they probably don’t exist since no one has seen them yet.
    i. Which leads us to examine another aspect. Is the foot traffic in this area ever going to quiet down enough for Kristen and Rupert to feel safe to come out into the open. After all, it’s described as a well known over look to view the Hollywood sign and downtown LA. As it is getting later in the evening according to them, you would expect more people to be coming out, not less, as it closer to being after work, it’s likely cooling off, and we are closer to the night lights of LA. I’m not an expert by any means on any of this, but I am sure there are many of you out there that are. And US Magazine fails to identify exactly where this place is other than in Hollywood.
    j. Let’s next turn to what purportedly happens after the incident. Remember, the president of FameFlyNet , in an interview with the LA Times he claims that none of the photogs even realized who Rupert was until they returned to the office and took a look at the photos. It wasn’t until they pulled materials from the Snow White premier that they realized what an incredible scoop they had uncovered. I’ll leave it to you to decide how truthful you think that is.
    k. Once they did however, they moved rapidly to maximize their profit and avoid anyone else discovering the secret. Quoting from the LA Times:
    “Even FameFlyNet knew what an effect the Stewart-Sanders shots could have and as such decided not to shop the pictures to multiple outlets. Agency owner Cosman said the move was in part to make sure that the secret wouldn’t get out before the story broke.The hallmark of a good criminal investigation is critically examining the evidence available at the scene of the crime. From the very beginning I have wondered where the “scene”of this crime was and why FameFlyNet and US Magazine have failed to disclose it. If this really happened the way they say, why not do so? The answer is simple. They obviously didn’t care where it was, it was the pictures that they were interested in. But proceed at your own risk when you ignore the crime scene.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Quite interesting, of all the things he could have talked about, this was something he did. As to the movie, I haven’t seen it either but it is streaming on Netflix.

    Still working on the “final scene of the crime”, the car makeout photos site. The S. Centinela Ave. site remains problematic for the rest of the car photos. I have a hunch it is somewhere near however. More later.

  • iwonder

    Hate that thing!

  • one who knows

    The possibilities of this being a “research project” could be slightly apparent. This could be the “starting to come out more in public” part.

  • Anonymous

    I said nothing about Kristen, and that bff is a girl friend. We went on to have a “what if” discussion of what could happen if post-scandal BD2 struck some moments as ironically funny. I was joking about the scene with the twihard pummeling anyone who laughed but it is entirely a possibility after reading your comment, frightening.
    Also,GC is the only board I have ever commented on.

  • a2z

    Someone who goes by REM posted on another GC article that this was all part of a social media experiment by students who are majoring in journalism.

    his post is as follows:

    Rob’s calling the media stupid because they were too quick to publish the pictures before they realized they were staged in the first place.
    The main leads in the expriment who needed to agree first were the two women–Liberty and Kristen. Rob and Rupert are just supporting characters. Why so? Because media research shows that the primary consumers of tabloid media are women, especially when the object of the story are women. Case in point–the battle between Angelina Jolie and Jennifer Aniston over Brad Pitt which continues to generate headlines after seven years. This is the reason why the media exposure is more on Kristen and Liberty. Of course majority of the outrage is on Kristen with some residual hate on Rupert but not much, which is covered in the subsidiary text on sexism in this experiment. As expected, there was resulting sympathy for Liberty and Rob. Anyway, the main text of the thesis is to prove how easily news can be manufactured and consumed without much verification and qualification, rendering investigative journalism completely useless in today’s tabloid culture. It will be good when it all comes out.
    In case you’re wondering how they were able to make Kristen agree to this, Kristen was researching about her character for the movie Cali where her character essentially fakes her own death and runs away with the cash from the sale of her fake snuff film. The whole thesis is a good reference for her character in the Cali.
    By the way, these kids are majoring in Journalism. LOL! The irony is that they proved that Journalism in the US is the primary source of unverified and unqualified news. Best thesis all around

  • do

    And when are we going to be exposed, to the fact we were all punked?….

  • one who knows

    Twilighter (and all), this is a quote from a post on another thread that raises another interesting point:

    “How is it dumb when it’s totally helping to promote both “Cosmopolis” and “On the Road” after making its stars Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart a fixture in the public consciousness for the past four weeks? Who gets that kind of press? No one. If not for this scandal, there would be no attention for “Cosmopolis” or “On the Road” coming from the Summer Olympics fever as both are small indie films. But because of this scandal, which strategically dropped just 3 days before the Opening Ceremonies for the Olympics, the names of both Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart dominated the print, internet, and TV media during the entire Olympic season. In fact, no one’s talking about the Olympics anymore and yet Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart are still dominating headlines. Robert and Kristen agreeing to this experiment was the smartest thing to promote the movies they care about, especially since it’s a legitimate academic endeavor and that they participated in a university-sanctioned social media experiment”

    It was a comment by “prune”.

    The “legitimate academic endeavor” is in relation to “a2z’s” comment above, which I also read about the thesis on another thread.

    Any thoughts?

  • one who knows

    Sorry, I mean “a2z’s” comment below.

  • guest

    Hi do, looking at your photo in your profile, now I know who you reminded me of. The girl in BD1 premiere in London who asked Kristen’s autograph & gave something to her. I know there were lot of girls on that night, but the camera has focused to this girl in particular.

    Anyway, who cares if we are being punked by the four main characters. One thing for sure, we are being punked by the media all the time.

  • Sandy II

    HOw does the writer of the post know about this experiment…? Is this real or just an assumption again?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gwenda-Wakely/100000626605997 Gwenda Wakely

    There are 2 sides to every story,I agree Rob is a simple man and human and is not without having made mistakes, he should look to see what part he had to play in this.If she was looking for affection else where.I am just saying he needs to at least speak to her. Maby she is open to seeking help,both of the should talk about it with someone other than a mate who wouldent understand what they both are going through.

  • andrea

    Normally it is true that any promo made ​​in summer is not the same as in any season and more if sporting events like the Olympic Games

    Cosmo has got strong promo … OTR has also had his promo in the summer festival when people normally not interested in this festival … and everyone will be in Toronto for a first look at Kristen, if it goes before.

    The theory of a university research I liked so much … but like any research will come to light and tell the truth… a lot of hate no it´s goog for anybody, profesional can see kristen as she´s not able to separate private life and profesional life

    Apart from the photos that make me feel bad because looks that are like staging the rest are speculations because nobody knows anything.

    I’m dying to know what you think as Twilighter, Sandy and others who see that not everything is as clear as it seems.

  • Jane

    “I think Kristen’s public apology was done out of desperation for Rob to forgive her.”
    Yup

  • Glowgenie

    You people need to let go of your anger. Channel it in a different venue, not on some tiny 105 pound girl whose life you are ruining by your hatred. So she made a mistake. Let her work it out with Robert or just herself if that’s the case…… Via a Fox News Article~~ For the past couple of weeks the tabloid press has crucified actress Kristen Stewart, star of the blockbust “Twilight” movies for kissing her “Snow White and the Huntsman” director, Rupert Sanders. Stewart had been in a relationship with her “Twilight” co-star Robert Pattinson and fans of the series were devastated by the cheating revelation.

    While news of her indiscretion might have been a legitimate one-day story for the Hollywood press when it first happened, it certainly doesn’t fit the bill as a “matter of public concern,” that deserves extensive coverage.

    Not only is the media’s continued replay of Stewart’s mistake making it almost impossible for her to make up for what she’s done, it is probably placing additional stress on Sander’s marriage and continuing to embarrass his wife.

    It is also making it harder for Stewart’s boyfriend to take her back without feeling the continued sting of humiliation—if deep inside he’d like to give her a second chance.

    In addition to being presumptively portrayed as a ruthless home-wrecker who targeted her male prey, the extensive reporting has been completely imbalanced because it places all of the blame on Stewart and none on Sanders.

    Even Stewart has expressed surprise that Sanders has been essentially given what amounts to a hall pass by the media. Reports surfaced Thursday that Stewart has told people privately that she’s upset the media isn’t at least pointing out that Sanders was “in a position of power over her,” since he was her director, and presumably someone she could work for again.

    There’s a very specific reason Stewart is taking all of the heat, however, and it’s because tabloid journalism has a formula of almost always blaming ‘the other woman’ whenever a major male celebrity has an affair or commits an act of cheating.

    The tabloids have done their own studies based on week-to-week sales, which reveal that since most tabloid gossip readers are middle aged, married women, who prefer to read stories that blame the other woman instead of the cheating married man. That’s because these same readers are addicted to stories that target their own fears—and the idea of a younger woman coming along and stealing their own husband one day is a big one. And after reading about how awful someone else’s life is, they can breathe a sigh of relief and say to themselves, “Well, at least MY marriage isn’t THAT bad!”

    In the Stewart/Sanders story, even some mainstream media outlets have adopted the tabloid formula and blamed the actress for everything.

    A recent caption on an AOL News story literally blamed Stewart for “breaking up a marriage,” while the Huffington Post interviewed so-called ‘experts’ who said she actually—get this—made a “stupid” mistake by publicly apologizing for her indiscretion, thus committing “career suicide.”
    At least Stewart is trying to take responsibility for what she did, which is more than this reporter can say for most people, celebrity or not.

    The tabloid media persecution of Stewart will undoubtedly leave it’s mark on the young star as the tabs have done so many times to other public figures in the past.

    Tabloid persecution does more than just destroy personal relationships and break the spirits of their victims. In the end, it leaves the humiliated victim with a feeling of powerlessness despite whatever stardom they have achieved. It diminishes their legitimate talents and positive accomplishments to nothing while emphasizing a single mistake a person has made throughout their life.

    As Humphrey Bogart said in the 1951 classic, ‘Deadline U.S.A.’, “That’s the press baby. The press! And there’s nothing you can do about it. Nothing!”

    With the upcoming release of “Breaking Dawn 2,” the long anticipated final chapter of the ‘Twilight’ series, there is little chance that the media will let Stewart and Pattinson work this problem out on their own.

    Under the First Amendment, Kristen Stewart’s love life may be fair game, but there’s something else reporters should consider when they toy with the life of a human being, and that is compassion and fair play. The continued coverage of this story may actually be changing the outcome of these people’s lives and making it worse when there could be a chance for all of them to move past this incident.

    Tabloid journalists pointing the finger at a 22-year old woman for a mistake should remember that a kiss is just a kiss, and although sticks and stones may break bones, words… do permanent damage

  • Sapph

    I just watched “smash his camera” on netflix. Rob doesn’t play himself. They showed an excerpt of different fans getting hounded by the paparzzi as they entered and exited cars, hotels, restaurants, etc. They showed Rob walking through the paps for like 5 seconds then it flashed onto the next celebrity. There were no celebrities who participated. I would suggest you watch it before you talk about it. It is about the life and work of Ron Galella, a famous paparazzi who did a lot of photos of Jackie O. and she even sued him and got a protective order on him to stay so far from her and her kids. He took tons of photos of famous people over the years and it showed how far he would go to get them. It was interesting.

  • Haters2theLeFt

    Stay Strong Kristen! We will always support you :)

  • LeF

    I feel the same, that Rob supporter obviously do not wish her well .. even though in recent messages, she have been “nice” to Kristen .. I think we will see her true color if Rob and Kristen are not over.

  • LeF

    One of the silly people writing things like they have lived it. Unless if you are either Rob or Kristen, please just stop.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    I agree completely with everything that was said in the quote up to the last sentence, It illustrates what I have argued earlier about this being good for their careers not bad. The life of this story is incredible in our 24×7 images driven media world where the media just can’t wait to move on to the next story.

    However, this being part of formal university sanctioned social media experiment doesn’t seem to have any other basis in truth or logic other than it is being said by a2z. Without more, it just sounds like a thousand other rumors that seem to be circulating. Is there more?

  • Paulparton

    well she sure as hell didnt love Robert and as for the one off does she think we came up the clyde on a water biscuit he is kissing her breasts shes bending forward pushing her butt in to his groin area yh Kristen its a one off ….NOT

  • Paulparton

    she only owned up hahaha her PA owned up shes sorry ??? she is sorry she got found out and the big play for Robert is just that she didnt love him never did or wouldnt have done that and as for a one off yh yh herd it all before him kissing her breasts in the car her bending forward over a wall butt pressed in to his groin

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  • Read this

    Are we complaining Robert Pattinson has not “revealed” himself?

    I believe he has been quite revealing. On The Daily Show, he had to remind Jon Stewart to help him promote Cosmopolis. In closing, Stewart says, “Here’s my words to you – that you get to handle your business in private in your personal life.”

    On Good Morning America, after the weary look of the very first shot of him, and after the cereal fiasco, George Stephanopoulos asked Pattinson, “Is there any way you get used to all this (pointing to the fans)? Robert replies, “If you’ve gotten used to it, it means you’ve gone crazy . . . it’s like being on a crazy theme park ride. It’s totally exciting but eventually you’ve got to have a break.”

    Stephanopoulos quotes something Robert said the day before, “The world would be a much better place if all these bankers and billionaires were followed by paparazzi.”

    To David Carr at TimesTalk: “I’m a private citizen. I don’t make any laws. If a bunch of people followed you around you would have them arrested.”

    To the LA Times: “Media culture is a monstrous thing. You can’t win . . . the annoying thing is that you can’t attack them, but you can’t defend yourself. The best thing you could possibly do is punch a paparazzi and give them this big payday.”

    Think he’s fed up?

    The way to end the intrusive media frenzy is to ‘punk’ the fan – not the media, not the paparazzi, not the tabloids, but the fan. The tabloids and paps only go after them because the fans want to see and read about them.

    So, stage a situation depicting the one thing Kristen Stewart could possibly do wrong – cheat on Rob. This would end the love affair the fans have with the love affair. Shock, anger, denial, acceptance. I think we’re at the anger/denial stage. You want answers? Wait until everyone is at the acceptance stage. Then, you might get something, if at that point you’ve shown you don’t care so much anymore.

    Did Kristen have the assistance of Rob, Rupert and Liberty (I’m putting the onus on her, because she’s the one in the photos and neither her nor Rupert have come out and yelled about the pics)? Did she do it to grab some down time with Rob (this is certainly the romantic version, but may very well not be true)? Did she do it to sever herself once and for all from Twilight? By doing this in August, things should calm down enough for her to engage in BD2 promos. Whatever the reason, what was done, quite simply, had to be done.

    We may never know. Good. We don’t deserve to know.

    I never thought I would write this, but my heart breaks for Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart. Not because Kristen may have ‘wronged’ him and hurt herself in the process, but because in a small way, I did.

    Stop posting. Go see their movies, but stop living vicariously through them. Get on with your life. There is something strange about the situation, but if this is a desperate attempt by her or them to get the attention off their private lives, we should do them the favor and leave them alone.

    After seeing the giant ecommunities re: “Robsten” I only hope for their sakes this can ever happen.

  • Thanks

    Best post I ever read. Whew! Saved alot of rreading time!

  • one who knows

    I agaree, the main guts of the story makes a great deal of sense as far as boosting PR in a timely fashion, not so sure about a bonafide university study, although it is not that far-fetched…..

  • Buzzz

    According to the ACTUAL info from the documentary, Rob is listed as “himself”. Did you read the credits??? There were other celebs as well that did the same thing. THAT is called “participation”, those that get credit for being in the film in some way.(i.e. “ARCHIVED FOOTAGE”) They were clips used as examples and to prove a point. They were not playing scripted parts. And yes, Jackie O was the basis and main focus, but the others were used as further examples of the relentlessnes of the papps. Guess you were a bit confused?…….

  • one who knows

    Thanks the the great clarification!

  • iwonder

    Hmmm. Found something interesting. I went to the Popsugar site to look at the pictures you mentioned in your post and I couldn’t find them. Wonder if they took them down because people are finally looking closely and finding that they don’t quite match up to the story that was published by Us magazine.

  • one who knows

    The are still there i think, you just have to search more because so much news has come out. Try googling “popsugar kristen stewart pics” and see if you don’t get some kind of closer link. I did that yesterday to have another look.

  • Let it go

    Let it go.

  • iwonder

    Thanks. Found them.

  • Let it go

    So, everyone is upset Rob won’t reveal himself?

    On The Daily Show, Pattinson had to remind Jon Stewart that he was there to promote Cosmopolis. Final statement of Jon Stewart: “Here’s my words for you – that you get to handle your business in private, in your personal life.”

    I believe Robert Pattinson was quite revealing on Good Mroning America. After the weary look of the very first shot of him, and after the cereal fiasco, Geroge Stephanopoulos asked Pattinson, “Is there any way you get used to all this (pointing to the fans)”?

    Robert replies, “If you’ve gotten used to it, it means you’ve gone crazy . . . it’s like being on a crazy theme park ride. It’s totally exciting but eventually you’ve got to have a break.”

    Stephanopoulos quotes something Robert said the day before. “The world would be a much better place if all these bankers and billionaires were followed by paparazzi.”

    To David Carr at TimesTalk:
    “There’s this weird thing about accountability. I’m a private citizen. I don’t make any laws. If a bunch of people followed you around you would have them arrested.”

    LA Times: “Media culture is a monstrous thing. You can’t win. The annoying thing is that you can’t attack them, but you can’t defend yourself. The best thing you could possibly do is punch a paparazzi and give them their big payday.”

    Think he’s fed up?

    The way to end the intrusive media frenzy is to ‘punk’ the fan – not the media, not the paparzzi, not the tabloids, but the fan. The tabloids and paps only go after them because the fans want to see and read about them.

    So stage a situation depicting the one thing Kristen could possibly do wrong: cheat on Rob. This would end the love affair the fans have with the love affair. Shock, anger, denial, acceptance. I think we’re at the anger stage.

    Did Kristen have the assistance of Rob, Rupert and Liberty (I’m putting the onus on her, because she’s the one in the photos and neither her nor Rupert have come out and yelled about the bogus pics)? Did she do it to grab some down time with Rob (this is certainly the romantic version, but may very well not be true)? Did she do it to shake herself once and for all of Twilight? By doing this in August, things should calm down enough for her to engage in BD2 promos.

    We may never know. Good. We don’t deserve to know.

    Perhaps I can be described as a “Twi-mom”? I took my kids to the Barnes and Noble midnight purchase of Breaking Dawn. I bought all the books for them. I helped them dress up for one of the movies. I sat with them and watched Twilight; I took them to see Breaking Dawn.

    When the pictures were splashed over the mainstream, reporters, even on network, were yelling, “Kristen cheated on Rob!” my daughters went ballistic! The things they said about Kristen Stewart! So, I looked into the situation. And then I saw the photos.
    My daughters were right. It’s very easy to get sucked into the Twilight vortex.

    I never thought I would write this, but my heart breaks for Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart. Not because Kristen may have hurt herself, not because she may have wronged him, but because, in a small way, I did.

    Time to stop posting and focus on other endeavors. End the relationship with these two people. We all know there is something wrong with the situation, but if this is a desperate attempt by her or them to get the attention off their private lives, we should do them the favor and leave them alone. Go see their movies, and let that be the end of the love affair.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BAQ6YMLDZCKWNT444WNQXX5ZHI realitynow

    I am stunned I am reading something factual from Fox News. Something I agree with. Something smart. Besides that, am I reading right that this guy is a lawyer, yet worked as an investigative reporter for The Globe tabloid? I could see him representing the Globe in First Amendment cases, as their lawyer. I wonder if the ‘investigative reporter’ part was an error. Anyway….it was excellent!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BAQ6YMLDZCKWNT444WNQXX5ZHI realitynow

    I always thought (or hoped) that most of the haters were very young. Because the 40+ I assume would be more mature and have actual adult experience? I mean, I’m 41, my husband had an affair, we are splitting up and he’s with the other woman. But I don’t hate Kristen Stewart. In fact I like her a lot.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BAQ6YMLDZCKWNT444WNQXX5ZHI realitynow

    Now it’s just a mystery for some to try to solve and for others just to wait. Just like when J.R. was shot.

  • one who knows

    Some of the posts on here are really hilarious, thanks.

  • one who knows

    Always so eloquent. Brava

  • Robie

    way to go !

  • Robie

    I agree with you !

  • guest

    Some of the haters are very young. You can recognize them on their comments. But most of the haters here are not that young. They are even married. Did they dare to make comments on the post? No. Because they know that Jeff Scott Shapiro is right & he is talking about them.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    still there but GC won’t let me post link. Google PopSugar Kristen and Rupert Kissing and you’ll find the link.

  • LAgirl

    Hey,

    I couldn’t agree more, the whole story is so weird, I wrote a comment in the Gossip Cop article that talks about kristen being addicted to red bull and cigaretts, not about the pictures- I wrote about the weird and untrue reports from gossip cop and PEOPLE mag that they never bothered to correct, how can I contact you?
    Maybe we can write something together and move forward with that out of those comment cause true or not the only thing I see is a bunch of crazy ppl trash a 22 yo that they don’t know!!

  • Sandra (Guest)

    I may have found something. In Popsugar #53 you see Rupert walking past a blue container. In a pap-video on ifpress.com as liberty is leaving their house you als see a blue container across the street. the papz said he was dropped of a few blocks from his house. To me it looks like he is walking away from his house instead of towards it. The blue container could be a coincidence and i could be wrong. What do you think?

  • Cora

    Question:

    How is it we can get 100+ pictures of Rob walking from a bar/restaurant to his car in NYC taking 5 minutes tops and get them from different angles while up to 4 paps follow Kristen and RS around for hours on a bright sunny afternoon in LA and we only get 50 pictures from a single angle at two different locations, despite having stopped repeatedly (so the anonymous pap says) to make out for 10-20 minutes at the time?

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Thought for the day.

    I hadn’t seen this before but, on July 24, 2012 (the day the Kristen Stewart “scandal” broke) Jimmie Kimmel aired a segment on his show of celebrities reading mean tweets, introducing it as follows:

    “Celebrities in particular receive a lot of abuse on the internet, especially on Twitter because you have this direct connection and some people are just inherently cruel. Some people write very harsh things to famous people without even thinking about the fact that they are people. So tonight I want to give you a chance to think about it. What you don’t see when you send a nasty tweet is that it can actually cause pain. Over the last few months we’ve been asking some of our celebrity guests to read some actual tweets directed at them. And here they are for your amusement and hopefully reflection.”

    Note Kristen’s comments and antics at the 1:28 point.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcmz74AaXHs

    It was posted to the Jimmie Kimmel Live You Tube page on the July 25th.

    Coincidence? Its hard to tell but Kristen’s read was probably recorded on May 3rd when she appeared on the show for the Snow White promo. Was something already cooking? And why of all days does it get aired on July 24th.

    Remember, this is the same Jimmie Kimmel who was asked to emcee the Kristen and Rob’s Grauman’s Chinese Theater foot print/hand print ceremony. And also hosted an hour long prime time special for Eclipse.

    Something tells me that Jimmie’ interview of Rob might be interesting this week. Set for Wednesday 22nd. 7:00 PM taping, pacific time for airing 11PM EST.

  • one who knows

    WOW They have either done a lot of research to get all the timing right, or perhaps some others in HW are contributing also. I love the concept.!! What a great job you have done investigating. I am sure if anyone can make it interesting with RP, Kimmel can. Grand Punk part 6 should be very interesting.

  • Sandy II

    I am afraid I am a little bit lost here now, i.e. I don’t really get what you are hinting at as Kristen doesn’t really comment it? :-(
    Could you please explain it to me ? Thanks!! ;-))

  • Anon

    That Pattinson had to protect Kristen from the attacks, instead he left her alone like a 3 years old screaming: mine, mine. So he’s proved to be a coward and never loved Kristen and indirectly caused the crowd to torment her more. He is a selfish man and I think it’s a very good solution when Pattinson gets a new girlfriend! So at last, the brainless crowd will cease to harass Kristen!! !! He is no more the innocent victim! Robert is just a disgusting person nothing more

  • cid

    Please don’t hate on me but I agree that this whole scandal smells from the location of the rendevous to the pictures a lot of things just don’t add up, I was thinking about a set up as well. Firstly was it one of the last press tours that they had to pump up security for Kristen because of death threats? By separting her from Rob initially would cause a large amount of hate for her but eventually it would die down and things would go back to normal and all the fans who think they have a chance with Rob would direct their energies towards winning him over since she is out of the picture LOL!!! Even Rubert said that Twilight had suffocated her (not an exact quote but something along those lines) Also if recall correctly Robert said that him and Kris were working on a script together and when Kris was asked about it she knew nothing of the sort. Could this be the script he was talking about I wonder. Do you recall those interviews? I don’t remember where I heard it but thought those statements were odd. Why would he say that if she knew nothing about especially given the fact they live together. I would assume they woul talk about such things. I think we were getting subtle hints for awhile but because we were not in the loop the majority of the fans just thought of them as odd statements to make. It would also collaborate your theory as to them setting this whole scandal themselves. I was just thinking that it is quite possible given his often backhand comments that he makes. Let me know your thoughts about this.

  • Aamandpuss

    That’s why it is so hard to understand it is so out of character for her. That should be a wake up call to both Rob and all the fans. I believe the pics are real but for her to do this she must have been going through something emotionally. Just about everyone should realize by now that nothing more occurred than what was shown, kissing/hugging/dry humping (although I haven’t seen that pic). And for them to be laughing while they are doing so doesn’t sound like it was anything passionate like an affair. In all the pictures I’ve seen there is no passion at all. I felt this was their first time together and they acted more like friends than lovers. If they had already been lovers they would have went somewhere private where they could have sex not to a public overlook. And when he kissed her in the car it was laughable who gives their lover a peck. And why didn’t US magazine put all those pics in the magazine it doesn’t make sense. This is all so weird. Still Kristen is not a homewrecker nor a whore or tramp just a young girl who made an error in judgement which may have cost her the man she does love (and yes you can still love some one and cheat on them). And the saying “once a cheater always a cheater” isn’t true(Uma Thurman’s tweet to Rob). None of us know what they’ve decided but imo he shouldn’t listen to anything but what his heart tells him to do. His family and friends should stay out of it and he should take his time in making the decision but still talk to Kristen. And all the other celebrities who jumped on the bandwagon with their bad jokes(Will Farrell) making fun of someone elses pain is pretty low even for you. Still 100% Kristen fan always will be.

  • Sandy II

    Hey, don’t worry nobody is going to hate you here!

    There were actually some here who were thinking the same about three weeks ago when it all began. It is strange alright.

    The thought of the death threats were coming to my mind too at some stage. I think that none of us has the faintest what is really going on in a celebrity’s life in terms of threads from outside. I mean, if you just look at the other threads – it is a disgrace to see the amount of overwhelming hate that comes from the “fans”. This is so terrible. And Kristen has always been some kind of target being Rob’s girlfriend. I mean look at Biber and Selena Gomez. She too got massive death threats once when she was with Biber. Back then I felt they should not have displayed their love so openly. I believe it can be dangerous.

    I am not sure if this really is at the root of a possible punk but I would really like to know what our good and loyal friend Twilighter has to say about this…

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Because this was staged and completely under Rob & Kristen’s control from the beginning as it is to this very moment. US Magazine’s version of events is so laughable its shocking that so many people continue to buy without a second thought. Good for you for not being one of them.

  • one who knows

    I think it is a good catch and more food for thought.

  • one who knows

    what do you think of the comment below about the blue dumpster? (Sandra-Guest, under your pt 5.)

  • andrea

    mummm intersted to think… I didn´t know that jimmy told this day.
    I think you may be right and the next interview with Rob may be very decisive.

    Twilighter, I hope you can enter in wednesday and comment the interview… I will to read in GC because in Spain we can´t see the TV show.

  • andrea

    since the affair I saw a lot of time the pics, read the last interviews of Rob and kris, Rob telling does not understand the cheats, kris who wants to have the experience to have her life become a shit because her life is borring, together working in a script, kris always private and to see a pic of both with PDa you can count with almost the 2 hands, so, it´s very strange that a girl like kristen, so private, one day decide to go out with Rupert and in the street in daylight they are kissing.

    Stranges pics where it´s imposible to see love, passion, only a Kristen unconfortable… naive I do not… For me something smells a stage… why??? I do not know but now more days is spending more is worst for her… maybe if it´a a punk sure never they coul think all this humiliate against her… and if it´s a fake how to go out of this story??

    i think the next interview of Rob in Jimmy will be decisive… it´s now or never… or maybe seeing kristen in Toronto will be the key.

    reading everydays all this hate is very hard because I can´t understand how people lose the real thing of the life… cheat is not a crime!!

  • Anonymous

    Dear Twilighter, This whole situation is getting a little scary. People (on Twitter) are SO angry. Angry at the people they feel are the cause of this. Some blame Kristen (which I do not agree with), some Rupert (they use other variations of his name), there are fingers being pointed at Liberty and at Rob. They are truly upset! There are many people upset by the T-shirts. They are fighting among themselves. I am older and tend to see things through different eyes than many of the people out there. But my concern lies with the fact that SO MANY are so upset. The whole thing is REALLY getting scary–and that’s just on my TL. I don’t see nearly all of the people who are invested in this whole situation. Do you have any concern that even if they do come forward and set the facts straight, that Kristen might still be in danger? How are they going to be able to calm the waters?

  • andrea

    I don´t know you (twilighter, one who knows, Sandy, others who with respect talk here since weeks) but let me say thanks to read you, everybody can have an opinion, an idea but always with respect.

    Congratulations to promote this here… if won´t be for you since so much time I´ve closing the door to enter here.

    PS: I don´t write more here because my english is so bad, I love read the theory, I hope we can see a bit of light soon.

  • one who knows

    You do a good job with your english. And you are very open minded. Your opinion is important also, and I like reading what you have to say.

  • andrea

    good answer!!

    LOL… when the paparazzi want they can make pics and videos!!

    Each day I think all is staged.

  • andrea

    maybe a coincidence o maybe not!!
    Thanks sandra…

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    I wouldn’t be surprised. There have been threats against from the beginning. I suspect that even they are stunned by the nature of the reaction to this whole thing. I know everyone else is.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Link didn’t connect me to a video. I responded below asking for a clarification. My sense has always been that #53 and a couple like were added to be Rupert purportedly walking home. But of course the critical one of him leaving Kristen’s car is conveniently left out. Hopefully Sandra-guest provides a good link where we can take a look.

  • Nad

    I’m not Sandra Guest, but google “lfpress liberty ross video” (sorry, but GC won’t let me post the link)

  • andrea

    First pics of kristen after scandal (2 pics)

    all the comments are that Kristen still using Rob´s cap and the ring that Rob gave her.

    What to do you think??

    almost 1 month without see her and now 2 days before Rob´s interview we can see her… coincidence??

    http://www.popsugar.com/Pictures-Kristen-Stewart-After-Cheating-Scanda%20%20l-24527365

  • Mark

    Everybody hopes (or is afraid) that Robert will forgive to Kristen. But what is her wish? Did she cheat publicly on him to cut all hope on an eventual reconciliation?
    Several hypotheses can be envisaged:
    - 1 it is a publicity stunt (weird interview of KS about her boring life and interview of RP about fidelity few weeks before the”scandal”, more pictures of Kristen with Rupert in one day than in 3 years with Robert, the conditions of achievement of these pictures : her own car known for all paps of LA, in a LA street, in the middle of the day)
    - 2 they have never formed a real couple, so KS did not cheated on Robert
    - 3 she is falling in love for Rupert (in this case how to explains apologizes of Kristen?)
    - 4 she wanted to take revenge for Robert to whom gutter press attributed numerous adventures (without any proof)
    - 5 or she really loves Robert and made a very big (too big for forgiveness?) mistake but who does not make it?
    I am against cheating but even if Kristen and Rupert had a sexual history, it is not a capital crime. Remember Angelina Jolie cheated with a married man, Brad Pitt ; Julia Robert cheated with a married man, Roman Polanski raped a 13 year-old girl and still working, Sienna Miller cheated on married men, twice… B Ghetty and Jude Law, Meg Ryan, many actors… but no one received more critics than Kristen.

    Gossip press claimed that Robert had wedding projects and wanted to start a family. Perhaps this was too heavy to bear for a 22-year-old young woman who finally knew only two men in her life what makes of KS a manifestly stable and serious girl; making even more surprising her behavior with Rupert.
    If the boyfriend of my own daughter had proposed her the marriage so young, I would have had the same apprehensions as Kristen maybe had. To set up family is a too important thing, to make it without being absolutely certain that it is a commitment for all the life.
    This seems regrettably outside understanding of the troop of fans who swamp with insults or with advice the protagonists of this Hollywood scandal. Maybe there are too young to know the real love and the real life. Robert is not Edward and Kristen is not Bella. Anyway it is about their private life and not ours. Let us not throw our dreams and our justifiable aspiration in the big love on Robert and Kristen.
    That self-claimed conjugal specialists should take care at first of their own family before giving invaluable advice while knowing nothing of the history of the couple. Things should not happen so well otherwise why K would have cheated (if it is real)? Be careful, I would on no account allow to judge Robert, but so that a couple lasts, it is necessary to be two. The efforts must be shared by each of its members.

    Fans (?) must stop bullshit about KS and RP, there are many things sadder in the world than a couple (?) in crisis.
    Let Robert and Kristen solve their problems if it’s their choice, and we don’t forget that if mistake is human, forgiveness is divine. Sorry for my poor english…

  • andrea

    Pop sugar has got 41 pics.
    curious, today we´ve got these pics and the Liberty´s bird… the tittle of the pic is freedom.

    For the people like me who think something staged can be the key of the affair, is not a coincidence all of this today??

    freedom by Lib´s pic… can be a lot of thing: freedom for her, she´s deciding to split.. or maybe freedom by all the implicates, Kristen go out and maybe with Rob´s interview we can have something new.

    maybe my imagination let me be silly!!

    Kristen looks good… maybe sad or maybe fed up with all the situation

  • Cora

    I was always taught to not take things at face value and to decide for myself what is right/wrong or true/false.

    I guess my question really is why? What is the motive here that all of this hinges on. I think that is why so many people see/sense something isn’t right, but without the why they are unwilling to actually admit that it’s a set up/punk/whatever.

  • Anonymous

    Whoa! You could have gotten whiplash from the change in the atmosphere as soon as the new pictures came out of Kristen. Everyone is so excited to finally see her again! Anxiously awaiting Part 6! Thanks!

  • Cora

    It’s interesting that we got 41 pictures of Kristen walking to her car, something that took her a few minutes at most…

    And yet, we only get 49 pictures of her epic adventure all over LA looking for make out spots while being tailed by no less than 4 photographers. All from the same angle at each location no less.

    Riddle me this?

  • one who knows

    my thoughts exactly. very curious about that……and how can we be sure they were from today?

  • guest

    You make a very effective argument. However, in one of his interviews during the Cosmopolis blitz, Rob clearly referred to being at his storage locker and wondering where his MTV awards were, confirming that he moved out of his home. Would anyone move out of their home just to perpetuate a hoax? Second, this couple has made a fortune, so the need to promote hype for money certainly is not an issue. What other reason is valid enough to place themselves in a dangerous situation, as it seems that going out in public will afford some lunatic the opportunity to hurt them or worse. Is “sweet revenge” worth it? Did they underestimate the craziness brought out by this “scandal?” The latest rumors claim that their shared home has been sold. Very drastic just to promote a hoax and too short a time to make such a major decision, put the home on the market and sell it. Last, if it is finally determined to be just a hoax, they will be crushed under negative public opinion. No matter how financially secure they are, the world is a very small place. Where would they be able to hide? There has to be more to this whole chain of events that is not evident, but your hypothesis is intriguing.

  • Liyah

    Hello Andrea, one who knows, sandy 2, and twilighter anything new about the grand punk. I’ve been trying to stay off these blogs but this so called affair has been bothering me from the jump. Am so sick of the lies I just want the truth and you guys are the only ones who seem to share my thoughts. Everyone else seems to be losing there minds over this and showing how we just don’t question things anymore. I’ve heard that Kristen has been spot does anyone know if it’s not a old photo.

  • one who knows

    hi Liyah, read some of the posts below and check some of the other threads, there’s not that much new, a few pics of K, supposedly today, and lots of speculation about it. funny how they could snap shot after shot of every step she took and get 45 pics of her walking 2 or 3 steps to the car, but at the “scene of the crime” back in July, they were hardpressed for more photos of a full day’s “steamy” outing. I too, am also wondering about the next Grand Punk pt6 form Twilighter, he is checking out some more leads i think, and I believe more signs are pointing to a well thought out plan of sorts……..

  • guest

    In his NYC interview last week, Rob referred to being in his storage unit and didn’t see his MTV awards. He wondered where they were. Apparently, he did move out of his house.

  • one who knows

    You said it best when you said RUMOURS. All of it. Rob referred to his storage locker? I believe he was making a joke. And publicity is just a big bonus in all of this, I think he, and a few other celebs are in on getting back at the media, and rightfully so. Tonite I saw a scene where the photogs (several) were all over Tom Cruise’s car, flashing shots with the cameras directly on the windshield. If any of us did that to anyone, celeb or not, we would be arrested.

  • one who knows

    Twilighter keeps bringing up the timing of everything also, and rightfully so. A well executed plan involves proper timing…….

  • Liyah

    Yea I heard about that and I agree I just have a hard time believe that if there 4 papz and only 50 pic with know video. I just hope that the truth comes out cause I do badly wanna be haha you just got punked to all the haters. But like Ive said regardless I support both

  • guest

    In a break-up situation, it’s common for a girl to continue to wear her ex bf’s hat, ring, etc. It could be a type of denial or merely for comfort. I find Twilighter’s theory interesting, but you should watch the MTV nyc interview. You will detect another, much simpler, theory. Sometimes we miss what’s right in front of us.

  • Sandy II

    They keep saying Kristen was still wearing Robert’s ring. In fact when I looked at the photo I could only see the gold band on her middle finger. That ring I spotted already on a photo back in 2008. As far as I remember Kristen once stated it was a family tradition to wear such a ring. Please correct me if I am wrong because I do not have the exact details in mind and do not want to spread incorrect information.

    However, on the recent pics I am missing all the other rings she has normally worn. Hollywood life – er sorry – Hollywood lies ;-) posted a photo that was clearly recognized by commentors as old, and on that photo you can see far more rings on her fingers. One on her index finger and one on her thumb. I believe to recall that a while ago everybody claimed the index finger ring was a gift from Robert. Other than that I am missing another ring on the pics that she would wear just for the past couple of weeks. It was some kind of weird metal design ring. Can anybody remember that? There is surely a picture of it out there. Maybe she wore it at Cannes. Whatever.

    Anyway, what I am trying to say is – and this is really just a vague assumption – that the gold band is very early Twilight era, maybe even before Robert; the index finger ring she has started to wear only a couple of months ago (maybe this one was Robert’s ring?). And the metal one is missing altogether.

    Of course the girl is not supposed to wear all of her rings all the time. Maybe they were just special occasion rings. But what I really find important is to mention that the gold band is not necessarily Robert’s gift to her as all the tabloids are starting to claim right now.

    I know that my comment here does not necessarily support the punk idea… I am aware of that but I found it important to mention. On the other side she is still wearing the black wrist band which Robert wore as well in the past years. And as it seems it is Robert’s hat.

    So whatever all of that means…

    Twilighter…?

  • Sandy II

    Ok tiny correction – on of the rings i mentioned is a moonstone ring that she wore during the twilight movies. You surely know which one I mean. So that one is probably not one of Rob’s gifts either. I am losing track on all of this.

  • Jackie

    People Kristen did not have sex with sleazeball. the indeiscrection was ony once. The photos the photographer took shows no sex took place. He was tipped off by US Weekly who were tipped off by a person who called them about the time and place. So the photographer was lying in wait. Stop with the crucifying of kristen. She did make a mistake. It seems that every Site is getting their information from each other. It is about time to let it go people. It has been 4 weeks now. None of the sites know what the truth is they’re just making up stories now. Apparently IN TOUCH Magazine is saying that this has been going on since May. also Rob asked to see kristens mobile and she told him she deleted the messages. She also told Rob she was going to a business meeting. What a load of crap. She went to the Gym for heavens sake. In May she was with Rob celebrating his birthday and then they were in Cannes together promoting their movies until June. Than they both went to a friends wedding together. The same wedding that Zac Efron went to. So where did IN TOUCH get there lies from.
    Please leave her alone and stop with the name calling and everything else you are calling her. People are just jealous because she can do what she likes and she doesn’t have to ask any of you. It is her life she has earned it.
    I hope she comes out of this a better and stronger person.
    They both deserve to be together. ROB LEFT HER TO FACE IT ALONE. WHEN THE GOING GOT TOUGH HE RAN LIKE A COWARD INSTEAD OF STAYING AND TALKING IT THROUGH WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN THE DECENT THING TO DO. SO STOP WITH THE BLAMING ALL OF THIS ON KRISTEN. Maybe Rob should ask himself what he did wrong in this relationship to make Kristen do what she did. There is always 2 sides to every story and no-one knows what it is.

  • Jackie

    People Kristen did not have sex with sleazeball. the indeiscrection was ony once. The photos the photographer took shows no sex took place. He was tipped off by US Weekly who were tipped off by a person who called them about the time and place. So the photographer was lying in wait. Stop with the crucifying of kristen. She did make a mistake. It seems that every Site is getting their information from each other. It is about time to let it go people. It has been 4 weeks now. None of the sites know what the truth is they’re just making up stories now. Apparently IN TOUCH Magazine is saying that this has been going on since May. also Rob asked to see kristens mobile and she told him she deleted the messages. She also told Rob she was going to a business meeting. What a load of crap. She went to the Gym for heavens sake. In May she was with Rob celebrating his birthday and then they were in Cannes together promoting their movies until June. Than they both went to a friends wedding together. The same wedding that Zac Efron went to. So where did IN TOUCH get there lies from.
    Please leave her alone and stop with the name calling and everything else you are calling her. People are just jealous because she can do what she likes and she doesn’t have to ask any of you. It is her life she has earned it.
    I hope she comes out of this a better and stronger person.
    They both deserve to be together. ROB LEFT HER TO FACE IT ALONE. WHEN THE GOING GOT TOUGH HE RAN LIKE A COWARD INSTEAD OF STAYING AND TALKING IT THROUGH WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN THE DECENT THING TO DO. SO STOP WITH THE BLAMING ALL OF THIS ON KRISTEN. Maybe Rob should ask himself what he did wrong in this relationship to make Kristen do what she did. There is always 2 sides to every story and no-one knows what it is.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    I took a look and the dumpster photo PopSugar #53 is remarkably like remarkably like the one that is just down from rupert’s house in the video. Judging from the picture, if it is the same one in the same position, Rupert is walking away from his house.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    I took a look and the dumpster photo PopSugar #53 is remarkably like remarkably like the one that is just down from rupert’s house in the video. Judging from the picture, if it is the same one in the same position, Rupert is walking away from his house.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    see new response below

  • andrea

    agree!
    let wait and see tomorrow with Jimmy Kimmel´s interview… should be interest.

  • Sandra

    Sorry i didn’t respond. My internet connection was out for a while.
    GC wouldn’t let me post the link in my original post. Looking forward to grand punk part 6

  • andrea

    I´m thinking….during almost one month anyone knew where was kristen… how the paparazzi know where is Kristen to take the multiples pics of 5 minutos… good job for pop sugar!!

    Or now after Cosmo promo all they can go out and out of the hinding site.

  • Cora

    I think the Kimmel show might be quite interesting as well.

  • guest

    I hope this is a script to get back at the media. It would make a great documentary. Interesting to see how it plays out…

  • Cora

    The timing is key:

    week 1: scandal breaks, everyone lays low
    week 2: it’s the Rupert and Liberty show while Rob and Kris are MIA
    week 3: Rob’s promotion while RS/LR and Kris are MIA
    week 4: Kristen resurfaces, LS/LR and Rob are MIA

    Coincidence?

  • Chocmartini

    This director, knew exactly what he was doing. It’s sick to me! he enjoyed the game, his wife in one room while seducing a child in the other. We will never know the true events that have happened. That being said. My advice, Kristen you were seduced by a sick man. He knew what he was doing and how to do it. Learn from this experience. it may hurt now but trust me it will only make you stronger. Rob if you loved her before this, you should still love her now. Life test love, there was a mistake made. She was taken advantage of. It’s OK to hurt, be pissed, but just remember she is hurting to. If you were married and something tragic happened would you kick her to the curb then? Love means Love, To the sleazy Director. God help the day Karma bites you back in the ass, you deserve it. If you were a true man, you would speak up and save this young couple from the embarrassment and pain they are going through. You know what you did you are the one that needs to fix this. You took advantage and now you are leaving her to hang alone and get demoralized by everyone. Make it right!!! Karma

  • andrea

    usually I don´t believe in coincidence…lol

  • one who knows

    They are definitely capable of pulling this off

  • one who knows

    Twilighter (and all),

    OMG they are all losing their minds, have been browsing the other threads and its turning into a war zone out there. Hope you have uncovered some new details that can give some clarity to the events of the past few days.

    Odd how the media can review these posts and occasionally regurgitate someone’s spin, and yet I have only heard one very small reference (a while back) about a scam. I would have to think that if it is other than a hoax, and the parties involved want to come out as heroes, there is enough material on here for them to turn it around and orchestrate that type of plot even at this stage of the game. That being said, they are more than capable of having set this up and I still feel that there is quite a different agenda than what we have been being fed.

  • Onewhohopes:)

    You are right. It is interesting the media has not pointed out any of the potential scam. Outlets are probably praying it is not a scam, so as not to look like idiots, which I personally believe was part of the point of all this:). I hope that we will get some clear answers soon…however, I would not be surprised if we never truly know what happened. I enjoy all of yours, twilighter’s, and sandy’s opinions. I’m right there with you guys.
    And yes, it is definitely becoming a bloodbath on other threads. Oh, the “the voracious, starving
    s—eaters”!

  • Anonymous

    Hi, can I ask please if GC blocks you posting your part 6, can you post a link to somewhere else so we can still read it?

    Thanks

  • one who knows

    Posts are starting to be deleted by GC, many posts, mostly the ones that indicate a scam. Something is up…..

  • mox

    posts are being deleted, mostly ones about this whole thing being a scam. something is up

  • andrea

    Can you tell me what´s happen with the post?
    This morning (in Spain) I was reading and posting and now I can´t see my post and always was talking with respect… I don´t understand???

  • mox

    Someone has been flagging all the recent posts from today and GC has deleted everthing from this afternoon. I wonder if there is more to this than meets the eye….

  • food for thought!

    All of posts were deleted and all the comments underneath. I was pointing out how the original pictures do not match the anonymous pap story about what when Kris was “caught cheating”.

    I was being respectful and not using vulgar language. What gives?

  • andrea

    But why sa lot of posts erased when during almost 1 month we can read so much insult againt Kristen… so why simple comments about lainey for example were been erased??

    Do you think something strange will spend about the scandal??

    I´m reading in others chapters like “kristen diet red bull and cigaretts” and too a lot of posts erased.

    In this moment I can´t understand nothing

  • andrea

    why now erase posts when there were posts worst in GC??’

    this behavior is rare in GC

  • food for thought!

    That is the $64,000 question.

    I think we might have been hitting to close to home with our refusal to just accept what we were being told. We had the audacity to think for ourselves and actually look at the “evidence” presented and form our own opinion.

  • Liyah

    Where is twilighter with this this deletion of the comments regarding how this could stage or the new pics of Kristen were her PR. And then I just read that the same photographers who took the pics of KS and RS took this new pic of Kristen. What is going on

  • andrea

    I´m waiting too and in Spain it´a let now lol

    I just read the posts about the same agency… and for me something smells weird.

    I put on the other side:

    Look, if I’m kristen and a paparazzi fucked my life taking me in photos, I never call them would do a favor for a job and do not care if they are the best or most business …. just, you take the competition.

    Very interesting!!!
    then we can think that the paparazzi always know where to find kristen … I just tend to think that everything was fixed from the beginning.
    Noone paparazzi have been found Kristen for 1 month and now abruptly finds …. something is happening.
    I´ve got the feelings that some interesting theories such by Twilighter, one who knows, Sandy and more we are giving some reason.
    I think tomorrow, Rob interview will be interesting … suitable only for cryptic LOL

  • andrea

    could be… we are persons not robot and in my case not always we can read it´s right.

    Since the first I had doubts about all this subject, my brain is working and only I hope all is true and then will do a standing ovation for the fake of the year and say to the tabloids… fuck you!!

  • Sandra

    I looked it up and FameFlynet is listed as the source in the “cheating pics and the “emerging” pics. I say interesting!!

  • Liyah

    It sure fuels the idea twilighter has been saying with the whole grand punk

  • Things just got interesting

    If he turns out to be correct I may just eat my shoe… or something. I mean, he has been making perfect sense all along but to think that he may actually be right or close to it…

  • food for thought!

    But notice you can’t flag anything here… It was done with some objective in mind.

  • Sandra

    It sure does! Even if it is not a “grand punk”, it did not happen the way FameFlynet (papz) said it did. Makes you wonder what else they a lying about.

  • andrea

    and tomorrow will be more interesting with Rob in kemmel!!!

    I can´t wait to see more signs.

  • Things just got interesting

    I just dont understand – is FameFlynet a popular source?? And why would they get dibs on the emerging pics – unless something is up.

    1. There was some time of deal that was made – they getting dibs on Kristen resurface in payment for not releasing the rest of the pictures

    2. This was planned as part of this ‘punk’?

    It’s just weird how the same ppl got the exclusive.

  • iwonder

    I missed something somewhere. What comments were deleted?

  • onewhohopes:)

    A couple of my comments were deleted. I was not cursing or being vulgar or anything…just agreeing that I thought it was a punk. Not sure why they were deleted but I am sure something is up.

  • Petal

    It will be interesting to see what unfolds.

  • Petal

    Anyone else having trouble commenting?

  • one who knows

    Yes, a terrible time. None of my last posts made it on. I wonder if they did that to Twilighter too?

  • one who knows

    very much agree

  • one who knows

    Something is up. Now some comments are not even able to be posted.

  • one who knows

    Some of the posts are very hateful, didn’t some celeb “untwitter” himself today because of all the hate? Everyone could probably use a time-out, but it is very odd.

  • one who knows

    Twilighter, are you out there? Give us a sign…..

  • Sandy II

    I had trouble posting too…
    In the other threads some say the deletions started after Laney issued her recent online article about Kristen’s manager having called the papz to take the photos of her. Allegedly to test how she is being received so that they know if they can set up her career again or not.

  • Sandy II

    Sorry forgot something…

    I wanted to add that I don’t understand the fuss about it, i.e. why GC should want to delete comments regarding this article. How do people want to know that the photographer they “might” have called to take the pics of Kstew yesterday was the same who took the pics of her with Rupert `! Doesn’t make sense to me or maybe there is something that I am missing. Because Celebrities do call photographers at times, we all know that. It doesn’t automatically mean that it was the same one who took the pics of her with Rupert, does it….?

    Any idea?

  • Sandy II

    Could we not try and arrange another means of talking? Just as a safety measure in case we are going to get blocked again?

    Are you accessible via twitter or facebook?

  • Sandy II

    It seems that it has got nothing to do with making vulgar comments…

    However I think that GC should delete some of them too. They are just mean out there…

  • Sandy II

    Do you have twitter accounts? So that we can stay in touch just in case we are being blocked again…?

  • Liyah

    This is getting crazier by the second the min you thing you know something bam something else comes out. But am wanna stick to the facts twilighter were are you? @sandy 2 I have Facebook but I don’t know if you were talking to me though let me know though I much prefer this place then the others it’s like a ocean of sharks over there.

  • Sandy II

    Yeah I was addressing everyone here :-) I understand you though, I prefer to be here too. I just thought as a way of contacting in case all of this is going to disappear too eventually …

    I have never witnessed any other celebrity scandal of this calibre… Weird, absolutely…

  • Liyah

    Here’s my email I use that more iverson_chik3@yahoo.com

  • Anonymous

    This whole thing is really getting weird. I would be happy to have people send emails to my account. I could then make a group and send info out to people that want to be included in the discussion. Let me know if you think this would be a good idea. If you do, then I’ll post my email account address.

  • Anonymous

    If Twilighter is being blocked from posting, he could send an email to either liyah or me and we can let people know what’s going on. I’m pretty sure you don’t want to post on Twitter as there is a limit on how long your message can be and you would get a lot of people into the conversation that haven’t been following what is going on.

  • Liyah

    It sounds like a good idea to me

  • FB

    Hi Sandy. Count me in. I don’t have FB & Twitter. Here is my email address: amsterdamamsterdam76@yahoo.com. Thanks.

  • XYZ

    Who is LS?

  • Anonymous

    Here is my email: veulent_savoir@ymail.com

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think we want too many emails because then no one will know where to send comments. I set up this account specifically to do this. I will be glad to moderate if that is agreeable.

  • Liyah

    Alright so we just email you right

  • Liyah

    He just posted on the other article about the twilight convention

  • andrea

    Hello,
    yerterday night (for mi in Spain) they erased some posts of mine.
    What do you think if tonight after Rob´s interview if we see we can´t post what we want or we can´t see Twilighter or one who knows open a private group in FB or if prefer twitter it´s ok

  • andrea

    I still think that everything is arranged and now with post erased… For what purpose? I do not know, can be anything…. and why erased posted who are talking about lainey´s article and more thing and not erased posts who were so hatred agains Kristen?

    - We Should lasts record the interviews of Kristen and Rob. Rob and Kristen taloking cheating acerca wanted something to make her life less boring
    - Kristen so private, I did not take it personally in full sunlight and one day decide to give some PDA to someone who is not her boyfriend
    - Photo teach anything but love, passion NO … rather uncomfortable and friendship
    - The press, are what perplex me
    - Random or not, but they all disappear … we see Rupert first, then Liberty, then the we can the two together. Rob sightings without testing until the promo for Cosmo in NY.
    -the phenomenal promo and Rob talks about the tabloids
    - Liberty blogged with an image that could be symbolic and she knows that everyone is aware of it
    -and almost one month later, kristen appears with a Rob´s cap and and ring means a lot for Robsten … and all the world that the paparazzi were looking for, we have seen that it is the same agency that the alleged crime caught on with Rupert … Curious??? Like magic, Kristen appears from hiding and was precisely for this agency.
    - And now many posts are deleted!

    We´ve got a lot of things to think…. maybe tonight, with the interview we´ll got a key to analize

  • XYZ

    Hi Sue, did you get my hello email?

  • Sandra

    I have no trouble at all. My posts are still there, even the ones i made as “Guest” with the links to the parkinglot pic and the blue dumster. Strange that some are getting blocked or deleted.

  • Sandy II

    Hi FB ;-) I will send you an email !

  • Sandy II

    Hi everyone! I set up a blog where we can continue to communicate.
    Please tell me your email and I will email you the blog address. I don’t want to post the blog address here because I want to avoid the haters coming there too…

  • Sandy II

    Ups, sorry Sue-V and Liyah, I just set up a blog and having read that you had intended to do something similar … Sorry for that… I wasn’t paying attention.

    If you prefer to set it up that ‘s ok then I will join you if you don’t mind. Please keep me updated :-))

  • Sandy II

    It ‘s probably better if one of you does it because I don’t really have any experience in doing these kind of things…

  • Sandy II

    @Sue- V
    Yes that’s perfect – please ignore my idea with my blog – I am not really good at this -please let me know where I can find you!

  • andrea

    thanks Sandy!
    my email: audreybaldacci@hotmail.com

  • Sandra

    Hey Sandy Count me in too. My email is sandra45123@hotmail.nl

  • Anonymous

    I thought the blue dumpster was a good spot. I checked out #53 and the video of Liberty being papped and you are right, it looks as if RS is walking away from his home. This doesn’t tie in at all with the media story that we are being told.

  • Teresa holmes

    you make a lot valid points. i have a lot of the same theories. especially flameflynet????? take the ew pic of kristen yeah curious

  • Sandra

    Great idea setting up a Blog! Can you email me the blog adress.
    My e-mail is: sandra45123@hotmail.nl

  • Teresa holmes

    yeah what comments got deleted? what was the nature of the conversations?

  • Teresa holmes

    too much truth to handle!!!!!!!!!!

  • Teresa holmes

    how do we know if this is a recent photo. it may be pre scandal.

  • Teresa holmes

    exactly!

  • Teresa holmes

    i agree with you andrea something is happening. i believe this whole thing is fixed. why? i am still not sure. but for some reason my gut feeling keeps telling me marriage is involved!

  • Anonymous

    The email is there and I will share comments made on it to anyone who emails me their address. I want to share something with you. This is a post by a lady who is on Twitter. She is in marketing and has a very interesting theory. I really love the posts by Twilighter because his are always backed up by facts. Not just theories but real evidence. This post is based on her observations and knowledge of the industry. She may be right on…but has no facts to back it up. Read it…I’d be interested in your comments. Here’s the address: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ivhu4o

  • Teresa holmes

    beauty is truth, truth beauty – john keats

  • Cora

    None of the story/pictures US is peddling matches up or make sense.

    If you look closely at the pictures, they’ve not been photoshopped, but very closely cropped to eliminate that the fact that the parking lot pictures were not taken in any place remotely abandoned (it’s a well kept gated lot) or the railing pictures are hardly secluded (it’s right off a public street and practically in people’s backyards).

  • Cora

    Exactly, all of the photos could’ve been taken at the same time and just shopped when it was appropriate for the timeline.

    Think about it:

    week 1: scandal breaks, everyone lays low
    week 2: Rupert/Liberty out and out, R/K lays low
    week 3: Rob in NYC, R/L and K lay low
    week 4: Kristen resurfaces, R/L and Rob lay low

  • Cora

    I think it’s interesting that Rob’s best friend in a whole world did not hop the first flight to LA from London when this went down. Instead, that first weekend (the weekend of the opening ceremonies of the Olympics mind you) Sam Bradley posted pictures of a tropical island to his instagram and four days later he’s back in Europe.

    You only have to be on the islands of the Bahamas (and many others in the Caribbean) to be considered a legal citizen and can legally marry. That is why they are so popular for destination weddings.

  • Teresa holmes

    we can’t buy too much into jewlry and clothes because its not accurate. maybe rob let her have the hat or maybe the hat is hers and rob just borrewed it before. maybe the ring is a gift from rob or maybe she bought it. do you see what i mean?

  • Teresa holmes

    explain further about the mtv interview. what theory came out of that?

  • Sandra

    i posted this on GC Part 5 as a reply to twilighter, so i completely agree. Also if RS is indeed (not completely sure)
    walking away from his house the papz are lying, because they said the did not recognize him until they got back at the office at the end of the day. Now why would they pap a guy they do not know in front of his house?

  • Teresa holmes

    sorry but she doesnt look sad or frustrated. she looks like she always looks in these kinds of photos. normal. she’s just walking to the car.

  • Teresa holmes

    explain further?

  • Teresa holmes

    good job twilighter. keen eye and good research. in video kris scratch herself is there any clues that predict scandal in her segment.

  • Teresa holmes

    please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Teresa holmes

    please everyone comment on kimmel interview after its over.

  • Teresa holmes

    explain more clearly and simply what your trying to say?

  • Michaela

    I want in too. michaelabella1@yahoo.com

  • Teresa holmes

    i really enjoyed your post. you brought up a lot interesting points that i have went over a thousand times in my head. but i dont believe kris would purposely stage an affair or get caught just for rob to dump her. first of all, she cant predict that rob would dump her over this. yeah i know he said he doesnt understand cheating but i have seen people say that in general but when they are in love its different and they can bend a little from what they initially thought.

  • one who knows

    A good one. Makes a great deal of sense and much in line with what some of us have been saying.

    Twilighter, your take?

  • onewhohopes:)

    Sandy…please email me:). hollemanb@msn.com.

  • Liyah

    Very interesting article think by now we all agree something hasn’t been right. And it good to know that others are now starting to open there eyes to the truth

  • Teresa holmes

    she cant gaurantee that he would breakup with her. he may have been mad and yelled at her but then say i love you and we can work through this. staging affair is a lot to go through without knowing if it will work out the way you planned it. it would be easier for her to just breakup with him. plus she wouldn’t have to deal with hatred and backlash if she just breakup with him minus cheat scandal. robsten is a real couple. no two people are going to pretend to be a couple for………..4 years! come on and live together in the same house to boot. they are not going to miss out on dating and connecting with other people they can be with just to pretend. while filming twilight and press they were not a couple but the movie was very successful even more than the others. rob and kris dont need to be a couple to make the franchise a success. their hardwork and dedication to the series has already done that. there is no love between her and rupert u.s. mag pics- enough said. she cant cheat on vengenance with no verifiable proof. with many celebs especially hot men are always linked to women most not true. she has no proof to take vengeance. if rob wanted marriage and family which i beleive. it would be easier to just tell him she isnt ready yet instead of hatred and backlash. rob seems like a decent guy and i doubt he or anyone would hate a 22 year old for not being ready for marriage and family. i truly believe that its all been staged by rob and kris. if scandal is true, no one blaming rob. nothing he did warrants her cheating but i agree that he is factor. rob her may have mind blowing sex. everyone thinks when someone cheats sex with their spouse was bad. not true. their sex life could be off the charts. he could love her and respect her and be attentive to all her needs. but it may have been something- maybe something small that can be r epaired

  • Teresa holmes

    agree

  • Teresa holmes

    my email address is teresajholmes@gmail.com please send me the blog address. i love the research everyone contributes to this site. we are communicate intelligently and know how to conduct ourselfs. we do not use profanity, vulgarity and insults. i would love a blog where we can continue to discuss respectfully excluding those who show immaturity by their hurtful and offensive statements.

  • Teresa holmes

    please continue to comment despite lanuage barriers. i enjoy your comments and theories. they are often in line with my thoughts. thankyou

  • Dnbglr

    I would like to participate in your blog. thanks dnbglr@gmail.com

  • Sandy II

    Just read the article. Oh my God……………. dunno what to say

  • onewhohopes:)

    Agreed. Sandy, did you add me for the blog? Thanks! Email is posted a little earlier.

  • Teresa holmes

    do me a favor, come to a site like this this to dicuss theories constructivelly. do not focus attention on media that are fighting and riuning the movie for you

  • Teresa holmes

    all of the stories you just named our false rumors that are circulating. rob has said he uses storage lockers in different cities long before this scandal even came out. rob ons his house he would not need to move out. no house has been sold and moving vans are fake. all of thses are rumors the mendia are feeding the public because the clebs and their teams are staying silent.

  • Anonymous

    Pretty interesting, huh? Has anyone heard anything from Twilighter??? I saw he posted something about 11 hours ago–but on a different TL.

  • Sandy II

    Hi Sue, just to check with you: Would you like to set up a blog or would you like me to do it?

  • Teresa holmes

    ok, thanks for that update.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t really know how to set up a blog. I have the email and if someone wants people to see what they have to say, I can email it to all those in the group. We can have a conversation that way if you’d like. Up to you. :-)

  • Peace :0)

    I totally agree with twitlonger. As I previously stated, on July 30th I posted, (on a different website, can provide link if anyone wants it) that I thought they, Kristen and Robert, were doing all this to get time to themselves…thought they might even be having a private wedding. Thought they were so fed up with the media and lack of privacy that they wanted to ‘teach the papz a lesson’. What a great way to show the public that nothing can be believed that is written by these mags, gossip sites, bloggers…etc.

    Still feel the same…have tossed out a few different theories here and there, but still believe Kristen and Rob were done with the b.s.

    p.s.
    Does anyone ever read my posts? I hardly get any feed back. Just wondering???

    Thanks,

    Peace :0)

  • Teresa holmes

    i agree

  • Teresa holmes

    no sorry rumor

  • Teresa holmes

    and you would be willingly to bet your life that this is true. no you wouldn’t. this is another rumor from an unamed source.

  • Teresa holmes

    rob was joking. the media used it to support their move out lie

  • Teresa holmes

    people it doesnt matter where they were coming from, this is staged. they could have been seen toghether in front of mc donalds. its still staged. you will all see

  • Teresa holmes

    exactly

  • Teresa holmes

    who said she is not doing cali not the production company right an unknown source. who said she lost rob. last i heard their reps release no split statement oh right an unknon source. stick with the facts seetie

  • Teresa holmes

    sorry sweetie your wrong. those pics were verified as being taken on july 19th before scandal broke

  • Teresa holmes

    if she cheated. we cant prove pics are true

  • Sandy II

    Ok everyone, I will do the blog thing. I ‘ve got your email adresses and I will send you a link of the blog. It is protected, that means it is not visible to everyone, just to the ones who log into google.
    I hope that’s the way it works. If you have problems let me know. I don’t really know how to do this.
    I added you all as readers a n d posters. So please feel free then to try and post something.

  • Teresa holmes

    he can cant control what people say. kris not a weakling. she is defending herself very well.

  • Sandy II

    Give me your email address and I will send you a link to a blog where we arae all starting to meet :-)

  • Teresa holmes

    or he is not saying anything because thats part of their plan. in the past, rob has defended her when people said she is bitchy and doesn’t smile and other things. why would he leave her stranded now. even with a hurt heart he is the kind of man ho would defend her as a friend and someone he loves.

  • Sandra

    Yeah i agree something is off. The story the papz told and the pics do not add up.

    PS:Can you post the link or tell me where i can find it. Iwould like to read it.

  • Cora

    Can you please add me as well! coranne1989@gmail.com

    THANKS!

  • Michaela

    Please add me as well michaelabella1@yahoo.com

  • Peace :0)

    Hi Sandy,
    I was not comfortable adding my email to this…therefore, I sent an email to Teresa holmes asking her to email my address to you.

    Thank you!

  • Peace :0)

    Teresa,

    I sent you an email to the address you listed above. I hope you don’t mind…

    Thanks!

    Peace :0)

  • Peace :0)
  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    It basically tracks the Grand Punk scenario but they never tell anyone that they did it.

    Couple key problems with her scenario. 1. It seriously places Kristen at risk of some crazy going psycho on her, something that Rob would not risk or tolerate. 2. It assumes the PopSugar photos were taken down to hide the plot. There not, there still there. 3. Its hardly getting even if you never tell anyone. 4.This scenario involves a massive conspiracy with many players making it more likely that it would be impossible to keep a lid on it. 5. It leaves in place permanently some of the temporary damage to Kristen and Rupert that outing the punk would solve.

    I think a lot of what she has said is going on but she misses the main point. The only way they accomplish what they want is to out it.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    see above

  • Anonymous

    It is Sooo nice to hear from you again! Have you been working on Grand Punk 6? If so, when do you expect to publish it? Are you having problems with GC? If so, please feel free to email me. I will make sure everyone that has signed on will get your message! Thanks, Twilighter!!! We all respect your anaylsis!

  • Peace :0)

    I just went back to articles on gossip cop that I know I posted on and ALL of them are gone….

  • iwonder

    Please add me too. smp69vdp73@aol.com

    Thanks.

  • iwonder

    Interested in the comments. My email is smp69vdp73@aol.com

  • Anonymous

    Thought you might be interested in some more comments made by RobstenCuteness:

    OH check this out….
    Wenner Media owns and distributes US Weekly….also Rolling Stone Mag.
    NBCUniversal has a part in E! including EOnline etc…
    TimeWarner owns People Magazine.

    A lot of old Wenner asst. and execs now work for guess who?….NBCUniversal…..You can find this out by using Linkedin….

    Who owns SWATH? NBCUniversal……..

    Who owns NBCUniversal? GE…..and Comcast..actually Comcast has a 51% holding of shares…

    Carl Ichan…big ass money maker sold out his Hollywood shares of stuff just lately…like April lately….he tried to take over both Time Warner and Lionsgate to no avail. He then sold his MGM shares back to the studio….

    His protege, Mark Rachesky was just named guess what?…Co CEO of ….wait for it…Lionsgate.
    Seems Mr. R stopped Mr. I from a hostile take over by buying up his former mentor’s shares…..wow.

    GE and Comcast have dipped hands in every media out there…including their competitors.
    They own NBCUniversal, which owns EOnline,
    They own TimeWarner which owns People Magazine….

    There is something all here, I just can’t find it yet…
    But they are all tied, either through holdings in Comcast or GE….
    Ichan and Rachesky are both BIG money players and dip rather deep in funds across the board.

    I’m still digging here….but it goes on and on and on….

    American Media owns RadarOnline and Star as well as Enquirer magazine….IDK much about them yet…

  • Anonymous

    When do you think they might do that? Out it?

  • Sandy II

    Your welcome, I will send you an email tomorrow with the link to the blog. Don’t want to post it here (the haters…)

  • Sandy II

    Your welcome, I will send you an email tomorrow with the link to the blog. Don’t want to post it here (the haters…)

  • Entras

    Your welcome, I will send you an email tomorrow with the link to the blog. Don’t want to post it here (the haters…)

  • Sandy II

    Twilighter, would you like to join us on the new blog? I will post my email adress on your twitter and then you can write to me and I will send you our blog adress. ;-)

  • Sandy II

    I have already added loads of adresses on the blog. Please give me feedback if it works. And please bear with me if i can not respond to your mails immediately. I’ve got a busy day tomorrow but I will do what I can. Tomorrow we’ll be wiser after Kimmel and I hope to see you on the blog with comments on that!

  • Sandy II

    Sue can I post this on the blog? THx !

  • Doves1993

    Please add me too when you have time. doves1993@gmail.com

  • Anonymous

    Which one? Things are kind of confusing right now. You can respond to the email I posted and I will forward your message to everyone on the list. Or there is the punkornot…Or are you wanting to respond to RobstenCuteness? I can help you with that too! Just let me know what it is you want to do!

  • Liyah

    Hey can you send me the link to the blog I thought we were just doing email

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ATUINF3Q6YFQQNR26CU65CDUNM Faith

    AMEN!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ATUINF3Q6YFQQNR26CU65CDUNM Faith

    I agree…what ever she did with Rupert has nothing to do with her acting…it doesn’t make sense to me how people forget that acting is a job and someone’s personal life is an entirely different thing. You don’t have to like what someone does to be a fan of their work. If the dude at starbucks who makes really amazing lattes cheated on his girlfriend I wouldn’t stop going to starbucks over it it’s just stupid. Also GC never said it happened more than once, in fact they busted the shit out of a rumor supposedly started by Ross’s brother that it had been going on since production…that squashed that flat…there is not one shred of evidence that it happened more than once…AND if you go back and look at the pictures Kristen was aware the photographer was there, she looked right at him like twice…Also body language…the pressing her butt into Rupert’s groin could, and probably was, more her leaning away from him… I mean I get that the shock factor when first seeing the photos would cause an “OMG she did what?” reaction from fans….but seriously….look at them again and look at her face.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ATUINF3Q6YFQQNR26CU65CDUNM Faith

    and again I say AMEN!!! lol

  • XYZ

    It works. Thanks.

  • XYZ

    Tell me if you haven’t got the link yet. I will email it to you.

  • XYZ

    Please check your email again. Sandy has sent the link.

  • iwonder

    I would love to be added to your email group. I emailed you my address.

    Thanks.

  • iwonder

    I would love to be added to your email group. I emailed you my address.

    Thanks.

  • andrea

    Sandy, thanks for the blog… but I know why I can´t post… I´m trying.
    I´m in holidays and where I am the wifi is very bad… almost I want to be back at home LOL

  • andrea

    Sandy, thanks for the blog… but I know why I can´t post… I´m trying.
    I´m in holidays and where I am the wifi is very bad… almost I want to be back at home LOL

  • zmsky

    hi sandy, can you add me as well. I love twilighter ! and believe he’s onto something big !
    my email address is zmsky@comcast.net thanks so much

  • zmsky

    hi sandy, can you add me as well. I love twilighter ! and believe he’s onto something big !
    my email address is zmsky@comcast.net thanks so much

  • Liyah

    Yea I don’t see it in my email might of deleted it without realizing it can you send it to me again thx

  • andrea

    Sandy, it´s ok… I´ve got problem with my wifi during my holidays… almost I want to be back at home to hace my pc… good job!!

  • Sandy II

    Are you able to access the blog?

  • Sandy II

    Hi there – zmsky – I have some trouble sending you an email. I get a message mail undelivered blabla. Do you have another email or is there a spelling error? THX

  • Sandy II

    Hi Sue just watnted to paste and copy the above article from Robstencuteness Thx!

  • Em

    Can you add me to the blog emilygardener23@gmail.com. Thanks.

  • onewhohopes:)

    Yes I did! Thank you so much for that! I’m very excited!

  • Liz

    Can you add me as well lizhat23@gmail.com. Thanks!!

  • Teresa holmes

    very interesting theories. may be truth. we’ll see.

  • Teresa holmes

    i guess thats up to rob and kristen!

  • Teresa holmes

    any news on kimmel interveiew? twilighter, one who knows, sandy, jen and anyone?

  • Liyah

    Hey sandy 2 did you send the link to my email cause I don’t see it

  • XYZ

    Done. Let me know if you receive the link.

  • iwonder

    Just watched Jimmie Kimmel. Rob made a comment that he was still homeless. Does that mean that the stories on the net are true and he has already sold his house in Los Feliz?

  • iwonder

    Absolutely nothing about Kristen though.

  • Sandy II

    please let me know your email address again… I am losing track I believe… But i can say that I added everyone who posted their email here on this board or emailed me on my own adress. Try again…?

  • one who knows

    He’s said that to JK before. It was a joke. He gave no straight answers, and made stuff up like he always does because he hates interviews. Just like the “dogging” comments about people sitting in their cars in a parking lot ( Not leading the media at all!! ).

  • andrea

    It´s a joke between them… JK knows very well Rob… in the medias we can read that Rob is selling his house so Rob to add he´s selling his cars too.

    Rob never talk his private life but sometimes let signs.

    We still knowing nothing… maybe until Toronto.

    Rob was in JK´s show and Liberty went in Shia´s premiere… seams they are calling between them because when one of the implicate go out one of the other part go ou too or publishing something in a blog lol

  • andrea

    I´ve just finish to see the video with the transcript because for me it´s not easy to understand all and Rob is like always, he´s joking all the time with Jimmy.

    How I found Rob?

    As usual always in, always making jokes and talking about issues he knows that many will catch average, and there is a feeling between him and Kimmel and that helps … the house already talked recently and who knows, maybe it’s a nod to the press that says he will sell his house, lol

    There is not a serious interview, is entertaining and will to talk especially when as much as men in the parking lot.

    Reading Fifty Shades?? Well, almost like everybody … lol … Think that Erika James has written in Fifty a fanfic initially based on the characters of Bella and Edward.

    We still do not know anything … We knew it would be so … Toronto waiting now.

    I read the surprised as the appearance of Liberty last night at the premiere of Shia LaBeouf … the next to going out will be Rupert?? LOL

  • Sandy II

    Is the blog now working for everyone?

    If you have a problem please let me know ;-)

  • Teresa holmes

    twilighter please respond about jimmy kimmel interview with rob. do you think they are still going to out the punk on tv or some other way?

  • Em

    Thanks. The address is egardener23@gmail

  • XYZ

    Yes and you’re becoming a blog professional. Thank you. I haven’t got time to read everything yet but I will soon.

  • Liyah

    Sorry it took so long to respond but here’s the email newmoon8721@gmail.com

  • Sandy II

    Thanks for the flowers ;-)))) (blushing now…) It*s no big deal really, that thing with the blog. It just takes a lot of time – but its fun! I am glad to see you there ;-)

  • Sandy II

    Done ;-) See you there

  • Christa

    Could you add me to the blog as well. I’ve been actively reading and agreeing for weeks that there’s something so off about this scandal. Email is stigmatadiaboli-87@hotmail.com

  • Sandy II

    Done ;-) See you there.

  • andrea

    the blog is perfect Sandy!!
    good job

  • iwonder

    On your blog you said you couldn’t find part Twilighter’s part 4. I found it and tried to post it but I couldn’t figure it out so I’ll paste it here and you can move it to the blog if you want.

    The Grand Punk- Part 4
    [NOTE: I have posted this to all four comment sections of GP’s Separating Fact From Fiction, Parts 1-4 see them for previous arguments as to why this “scandal” looks bogus. Refer to The Grand Punk, parts 1-3 there as well]

    Fact for the day: The paparazzi who took the “scandal” photos intentionally lied about the place they were taken, the circumstances under which they were taken, and the time that they were taken.”

    Sometimes when things seem too unbelievable to be true, they are just that: not worthy of belief.

    I think this whole “scandal” was dreamed up and brilliantly executed by Rob, Kristen, and Rupert and that the celebrity gossip machine is about to get punked bigtime. It’s a big payback for all the crap Rob and Kristen have had to put up with for years. And I think there is also something even more significant behind it.

    In Part 1 earlier we examined the context of the “scandal” and the version of events according to FameFly Net, the paparazzi firm that purportedly photographed it. In Part 2, we critically examined that version of events and their photographic evidence. In Part 3 we further examined more of the evidence and what occurred around the time of the incident and as it came to light. In Part 4 we will examine where the key photographic evidence was actually filmed and why FameFlyNet/US Magazine had no clue about this.

    A short version of the FameFlyNet pictures is available at US Magazine at: http://www.usmagazine.com/cele…. and purportedly, all of them are up at http://www.popsugar.com/Kriste... . Be warned, I know some of you are loath to look at them. But if you are interested in learning the truth, look at them very carefully indeed.
    Again, a apologize for the length of this post, but as we often see, it is easier to quickly tell a lie than it is to correct it with the truth.

    Part 4.
    A. The hallmark of a good criminal investigation is critically examining the evidence available at the scene of the crime. From the very beginning I have wondered where the “scene”of this crime was and why FameFlyNet and US Magazine have failed to disclose it. If this really happened the way they say, why not do so? The answer is simple. They obviously didn’t care where it was, it was the pictures that they were interested in. But proceed at your own risk when you ignore the crime scene.

    But thanks to some great cyber sluthing by Livvy77, who has commented previously on this post, we finally know where one of the two scenes is, the one I’ve called the guardrail makeout scene.

    It is roughly at 7267 PACIFIC VIEW DRIVE, Los Angeles, CA.
    To see it, go to google maps or google earth, and enter the address, and then go to the street view. (move the orange stick person icon in google to where the address pin is on your map, and once the street comes up adjust the view to look up Pacific View Drive in a NW direction. To your right is the address in question. At the far end of the property near the garage where the “guardrail” begins, find a short picket fence covering the space between the garage and the first guardrail post. At the guardrail note how the horizontals on the picket fence are positioned in relation to the guardrail. Note also that the upright left most picket appears to be at a slight angle to the guardrail post. The right edge of that picket at the top is aligned with the right edge of the top of the guardrail post. The left edge of that picket at the bottom near ground level is nearly aligned with the left edge of the bottom of the guardrail post.

    This is the place.For those of you who doubt this is the same place, carefully compare your goggle image to the PopSugar #55 image: same picket, same guardrail, same orientation. This is the place.
    And although I think this is conclusive, consider the following:

    1. Earlier reports from US mag /FameFlyNet indicated that this event occurred in an area called the Pacific View Trail (not Pacific View Drive), a secluded area where people walk dogs and hike and look at the Hollywood sign and over LA. An early photo inset in US Mag even showed a picture viewing a trail towards the ocean which is obviously wrong. Many, including myself, were thinking a literal trail and were getting nowhere in the process. An early attempt to find it led many to think about the area of Griffin Park along Mulhulland Drive or along the Mt. Lee Highway, as those areas are below the sign and are well known hiking areas with overlooks that might be consistent with the story.

    Turns out FameFlyNet/US Magazine misidentified the location. There is actually a street called Pacific View Trail but it is far from the Hollywood sign and an examination of it shows nothing consistent with the purported incident. That’s because the real location is Pacific View Drive which is just a short distance away from Pacific View Trail. But FameFlyNet /US Magazine either didn’t know where it was, didn’t care, or weren’t prepared to tell us where it was even if they knew. More on that later.

    2. Note the whispy grass at Rupert and Kristen’s feet in PopSugar #55. It doesn’t appear in the Google earth view in the place where they would have been standing but if you move up the street just past the bush where the guardrail appears to end (it actually goes through the bush) in Google earth, you will find the same kind of grass on same side of the road just to the other side. Remember the google image is somewhat dated.

    4. Note also the patchy white wash appearance of the fence in both google image and in the PopSugar photos.

    5. In several of the FameFlyNet/US Magazine photos at the guardrail including PopSugar 55 note the odd red coloration sporadically behind them in the green bushes. I was originally having trouble making out what cause that in the FameFlyNet/US Magazine photos. On google earth, however, again pass the bush where they were at and you find a red flowering bush further up the road, which likely explains the red coloring washing through.

    6. In the photo of Kristen at her car, PopSugar #8, note at the far left roughly aligned with the roofline of the Mini, a grey colored object within the green which again I was having trouble identifying. See in google earth in the same vicinity, the gray colored bark of a tree to the side of where the car would be.

    7. Also compare the general indication of a turnout for her to park the car in which is shown in both versions.

    Sorry for the detail here, but when you have looked at as many crime scene photos as I have, you learn to really look. As to differences, obviously the google image is from fixed points of view at a different date & time then when these PopSugar photos were taken so there will be differences (ie the grasses, etc, things that can change). But the three big differences appear to be: the PopSugar photos look way too secluded, the road seems wider, and the guardrail seems curved.

    Why is this the case?

    1. With careful zooming on a wide angle zoom or zoom lens lens, changing your position, or changing your lens, you can crop out anything you want to and make it appear be more secluded than it actually is. Try it yourself, copy the google image into Microsoft Paint. Crop the image to approximate the views of the PopSugar photos, excluding the foreground and buildings. Suddenly the area seems much more secluded than they actually are which was exactly what the photographer’s intention was. To show the real view would blow the notion of a secluded overlook completely apart.

    2. If you shoot with a wide angle lens, lens and barrel distortion can make straight lines compress and bend, thus what we see with the guard rail and the appearance that the road is wider than it is. For more on these camera lens effects, see The Grand Punk Part 2.

    B. Be assured, this is the place where it was filmed or profve me wrong. Only problem is US Mag/FameFlynet/People etc. story’s don’t fit this location. Let’s count some more of the ways:

    1. You can’t see the Hollywood sign from here and rather than overlooking LA, if you stand at the guard rail you are looking north over Universal City.

    2. There really isn’t much a view at all and it can hardly be characterized as a overlook at all. In Google earth, gradually “walk” up the street. As you turn your pointer to the right (north), there are only a couple spots where you can even see parts of Universal City and there is nothing scenic about it. The guard rail is just that, a guard rail in a somewhat hilly residential area, it is not a railing overlooking a scenic view.

    3. This is not that secluded an area at all and can better be described as a residential lane. I suppose people could walk their dogs here, but you wouldn’t call it a hiking area or a dog walk or secluded. The only reason it looks secluded at all is that the photographer has “cropped” the photos by probably zooming the lens and even changing lenses.

    4. Its kind of the last place in the world that you would of as a great secluded makeout location. Unless of course you were using i as a set to fake it as one.

    5. Go to both ends of the street in Google Earth and take a look back at the scene of the crime. There are few areas for a photographer to hide and the pictures suggest that he moves right to left when taking various of the photos. And in PopSugar #55 he is almost adjacent to and at the guardrail. In all cases he is too close to avoid detection. For more details on these issues see Parts 2 &3 of the Grand Punk.

    5. And look at the general area. The streets twist and turn with many blind corners. Not a great place to trail a car, or provide cover to a photographer. Especially in the area of the “overlook”. Let alone not avoiding surprised or seen if you are engaging in a tryst.

    C. I believe that the reason the FameFlyNet/US Magazine pictures and stories don’t match up with this reality is because of the nature of the celebrity tabloid gossip machine industry. Remember this is not the NY Times which checks sources and confirms tips and has photographers on contract to document stories. This is a business where getting the scoop and selling the magazine with an image is everything, feed by free lance photographers that are working twenty four seven, always looking for an opportunity to make a buck. And everyone was watching Kristen. She knew it and they knew it as is evidenced by all the photos of her that were being taken between the 12th and the 21st and for the rest of the last four years.

    If you want to learn more about this “tabloid business” see:
    http://entertainment.howstuffw...

    If you want to see how relentless and obnoxious these so called “photographers” are, just search the internet. There are plenty of examples and rabid is an understatement. And finally remember how Princess Diana met her demise.

    D. What happened when FameFlyNet saw the pictures. Their first concern was how to make the most money. Their second concern was to act quickly before someone could steal their scoop. But if you believe their version, they would have got them the day of the incident on the 17th. And yet it took nearly six days before rumors of them started circulating on the evening of the 23rd in US Magazine’s possession even though FameFlyNet’s owner claimed they marketed them exclusively to US Magazine because they felt they could get the maximum value for them. And for all they knew based on the pictures, Kristen could have been out repeating her behavior and having others watch her or film her.

    For all we know, even if they “got” them on the 17th, who says they were even ever taken on that day at all. We know the place but not the day. A free lance photographer could have turned them over to them that day when they were actually or taken them days earlier. Or anyone with them could have turned them including someone working with Robert Pattinson, creating the biggest punk in Hollywood history.

    E. Which is exactly what I think happened. Call it a hunch, call a theory. But it makes a hell of a lot more sense than the “lucky” paparazzi, four in total, partial pictures, no video bs we have heard from Fame FlyNet and US Magazine. How this paparazzi got his photos has been the most troubling aspect of this whole thing from the very beginning.

    Someone came to US/FameFlyNet with some photos and a bull story that US/FameFlyNet couldn’t resist because of the dollar sighs flashing in their heads. They could care less about checking them out as long as they seemed authentic and they had “a source”. Because for them it was all about the money.

    See the following description from their website and tell me what you think and I quote:

    “About FameFlynet

    FameFlynet is now one of the largest, most powerful photo news agencies in America and around the world, providing its multi-media client database with photos capturing the latest breaking celebrity news stories, the hottest red carpet events, award shows, premieres, and fashion shows.

    Our agency fuels its success by maintaining high levels of honor, integrity and reliability in addition to the consistent efficiency and diligence required to service the demands of this time-sensitive industry.”
    News agency? High levels of honor and integrity? What time sensitive industry are they talking about?

    I’ll let you be the judge of that claim.

    But just so that you know, these agencies use stringers all the time and are more than happy to take photographic “evidence” from where ever it comes. If you walked into their office tomorrow with photos of a “scandal” involving a public figure for sale that “appeared” authentic, do you suspect for one moment that they would turn you down?

    D. All of this ridiculous back-story would have been meticulously examined but for the “admissions” of wrong doing that were almost immediately forthcoming from the wrongdoers.
    Many say “they confessed” so who cares about the rest. Why would they admit it if it weren’t
    true.

    In Part 5 of the Grand Punk, we will examine these “confessions”, discuss how little truth exists about all of the principal parties whereabouts after the the 22nd of July, what people have to gain and lose, and how this will all play out one way or another in very short order.

    Until then, keep examining the evidence and using your brain.

  • just a theory

    After reading this, I feel like I’m not as crazy as I thought. Something about this has never really added up. After seeing Rob lately, I didn’t expect him to talk about it, but his reaction when John Stewart did the thing with the ice cream and sarcasticallly made the kick her to the curb, Rob deserves better than that, reaction when Rob just looked down and laughed and smiled, was telling. When Kristen finally reappeared with ring, hat, and a cropped white v-neck tee, that was very telling. Something is not as it appears and Rob and Kristen may not say a lot, but they keep us informed by the clues they give. Not sure if this is a punk, but maybe we are out to catch a cheating, married, scumbag. Btw, loved the hear you are homeless thing. Loved when Rob said, yeah, I’ve bought an arch and live behind it in a garbage can. If you caught what he said later about the pick-up and driving down the road to bike, he smiled and he an Jimmy shared a knowing something. I think there is a lot more to this and it may surprise us all. And not in a bad way. Think Scumbag (Rupert) may be the target here. Seems he has a thing for the young girls?!

  • Entras

    THAAAAANKS! Excellent job!

  • Entras

    ;-) THX

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Thought for the night:

    I still find it shocking that so many people seem to buy the b.s US Magazine and FameFlyNet is shoveling regarding this incident. Two interesting quotes from their scandal breaking edition news stand copy describing what the paparazzi saw:

    “When it seemed quiet in the park, the two dared to leave the car to take in the view. Leaning against the guardrail, WITH ALL OF HOLLYWOOD STRETCHED BEFORE THEM, he embraced her from behind and caressed her hand and side.” (emphasis mine)

    —romantic eh? Only problem is the place where it happened 7267 Pacific View Drive is a residential street and the guardrail looks north and you can barely see part of Universal City not Hollywood stretching before you. You can’t even see Hollywood or the Hollywood sign from there unless you turn entirely around and have x-ray vision as you would have to see through a hill. LOL.

    “Stewart drove Sanders toward his place, stopping three blocks from his house that he shares with his kids, ages 7 and 5, and successful wife-a top model he cast as Snow White’s mother in Huntsman.”

    —only problem is of the five pictures that were included to “prove” he was dropped off, one which I identified yesterday as (PopSugar #53) is right across the street from his house, and the other four of him walking PopSugar #29,34,38 and 42 match don’t match any location anywhere in the area near his house let alone within three blocks. His house is near the end of a deadend street. The nearest intersecting street is also a deadend. As is the next intersecting street. Which takes you out to Mulhulland and Outlook Drives (as the point of access, but it still doesn’t match to anything else there either.

    I guess our pap was to busy watching that final kiss as she dropped him off to notice where he was. So busy that he forgot to photograph the kiss. LMAO now.

    Ditto PopSugar 33 Kristen driving the car while alone, doesn’t match anything either. ROTFL now.

    If you believe this crap, you’ll believe anything.

  • XYZ

    Hi Twilighter, I took the photo’s (see below the link) from Sandy’s blog.

    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m87pjreyfb1qi9b9so1_1280.jpg

    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m87pjreyfb1qi9b9so2_1280.jpg

    What do you think of those photos?

  • andrea

    Thanks Twilighter continue seeking details and show that not everything we can see has to be real.

    On the site of the photos I can not say anything, I’m not there, then in my case I could only realize that something had settled in setting the terms of each and following my intuition and certainly read the latest interviews of those involved made me realize that everything seemed so organized and mechanically possible.

    Yesterday, seeing Liberty in an event, I mentioned that Rupert would come out soon … we have pictures of him … not seen with his sad face style “eating pastrani” but yes with grinning from ear to ear and making us see that still wearing his ring … the happy face that has me suspicious or maybe it is his way to make people think that there is suffering.

    Crazy mine: will he have finished editing his documentary?? LOL …if so, they can go out all and say, guys, we made a prank and was for your sake, is to show that the tabloids are harmful in life, you read things that are not true, you missed guir by things that are not. .. was an experiment and we are as happy as ever … Yeah, I know, it’s crazy, but I hope so!!

  • XYZ

    I am with you with all your theories. My motto is always To See is To Believe. The media has shown photos but something is off and I am glad people like you and some others here always questioned what has been presented. I am just wondering though if USWeekly, FameFlyNet and the papz would admit & say “Oppss… We did it again. We misled you”.

  • andrea

    Those photos are incredibles! Alli is clearly the scene. There is not a remote place, we can see houses and anyone could seewhat ahhappen with them … a curious place for lovers?

    It’s clear looking at the pictures that no one can think that they were there to hide and be intimate. They knew that the paparazzi was there and you see that Rupert did not know hide and he looked directly disguise and Kristen was uncomfortable, it was so mechanically orchestrated … everything was arranged … For what purpose? Mystery.

    now these photos are here, I hope a magazine could take about it… we can see Rupert happy and let see us the ring, is it posible maybe a theory that Rupert ad done a documental and kristen help him… if it comes out that everything had a purpose, to make a documentary showing that the press can manipulated easily all the facts, invented sources, stories, I’m sure everyone will give them a standing ovation … any famous want to give to the press their revenge because everyone has been given time media harassment… it´s not serious I know lol

  • andrea

    I have a tremendous desire someone gets in press lords here and say there’s something wrong and show that there are inconsistencies in this affair, I’m sure it need to talk to someone that everyone starts to see that things are not what it seem.

    I hope truly is coming soon.

  • Anonymous

    Hi Sandy ll – can you add me to the blog please?

    Email: soton17@hotmail.co.uk

  • Teresa holmes

    go twilighter! you are bad!

  • Emily Gardener

    Sandy, can you add me to the blog? My address is egardener23@gmail.

  • Sandra

    This is not new. we have know this for some time.
    The adress is 7275 Pacific View Drive, Los Angeles, CA, United States.

  • XYZ

    Hi Sandra, were these photos been shared here too? This is my first time I have seen these photos.

  • Sandra

    Hey XYS not sure about these exact photos, but the location of where the “lookout” pics were taken was known. You should google eath the adress above. Also i do not know if you already seen this, but this is the adress of some “parkinglot” photos.

    2094 South Centinela Avenue, Los Angeles, California, United States.
    and a link to a photo of it.
    http://twitpic.com/ai4wxh/full

  • Michaela

    The only reason people believe what the tabloids are saying is because they are the only ones saying anything right now. The story is so hot any piece of garbage, from their so called “sources” the tabloids print just gets picked up legitimate newspapers or news outlets and websites and people perceive it as fact.

    I’m not a tabloid reader. Every time I see a headline I laugh and take it with a grain of salt. But being a twilight and Robsten fan I was sucked in to the frenzy. I must admit when I first read of the “scandal” and saw the first few photos I was shocked and immediately thought the worse of Kristen. I couldn’t believe how this young woman who is living out every woman’s dream could have been so stupid. She’s beautiful, successful, rich, has a thriving career she loves, has earned the respect of her peers, and most importantly has a beautiful man to love and love her back. What more can any woman want? She had it all, yet decided to destroy her life just so she have a cheap, quick F**k in a car with a married guy twice her age, (just barely 4 years too late being called a pedophile.) I knew this sort of thing happens, especially in Hollywood, all the time and Kristen was just unlucky or too stupid to get caught.

    Yes, guilty as charged, this is what I thought and Kristen was my public enemy #1. But then this “scandal” started to get out of control, with every single media outlet claiming to have “sources” close to the couple coming out everywhere. The stories where getting more and more ridiculous, I began to have doubts. Then you Twilighter came along with your arguments, I began to seriously question this “so called affair”

    The one thing that bothered me from the very beginning was her car. Yes her Copper. I remember reading an article recently, during her Snow White promotion; I don’t remember which magazine (recent Elle, or Vanity Fair maybe). She was actually driving the writer around town during the interview. The writer mentioned Kristen wasn’t driving her Mini Cooper, when she asked Kristen about the car, she mentioned that paps where too familiar with her Cooper so she avoids driving it; she was instead driving a big, fully loaded American car.

    Kristen mentioned it herself, her car is well known by the paps. Driving it around is a 100% guarantee that she would have the Paps on her tail. So if she knows this, how can she be so stupid and drive the damn car to meet her ”lover” of all people, and make out in this same pap-magnet car? And to do it in broad daylight. Seriously, Kristen!!! I know you’re young and have a lot to learn but are you that stupid, or is Rupert so amazing and talented that you were “so caught up in the moment”, as the paps mentioned you lost all sanity, morals and self-respect and taste (I mean come on girl, you have Rob in your bed every night).

    Again I could be wrong, because I don’t know what happen that day, but I would like to think, hope, pray that Kristen is not a complete moron. This is why I feel that something is off with this “scandal”.

    Then you Twilighter came along with your theories and about the “crime” scenes and I began to really question what really happened. With 4 photographers present, why are all the photographs shot at the same angle and distance? Why no video? Why only 50 photos when even my basic camera can shoot 50 photos in seconds? Popsugar released almost 50 photos of Kristen just walking to her car a few days ago. What happen to the missing shots? US weekly claimed they had marathon make-out sessions all afternoon at different locations, constantly searching for new and better make-out spots. Where are the photos of the them doing the nasty at these the different locations?

    Twilighter, you make some very valid points, have you ever contacted or posted on any other website. If you haven’t, then maybe you should. Get the word out there that this “scandal” story stinks. You could try People, Popsugar, EW, even TMZ. I know TMZ is a bad one but tons of people read it and unfortunately they have tons of influence. You did such a great job, get on their message boards the word out make people stop and question.

  • Anonymous

    Can you please add me as well! siwakatze@gmx.de

    THANKS!

  • Sandy II

    A quick word from me :-)

    I am equally stunned at what twilighter has to say and what lies the press is delivering to the world in this regard.

    However, I am not certain if our ideas and opinions should really be brought out to the tabloids.

    Let me tell you why I think so.

    We are all assuming that the reason for all of this could lie in the fact that Robsten either might want to have some time out from the papz or might be preparing some high quality blow aimed at the papz in form of a documentary or whatever. Both of these possible reasons are reasons we support, don’t we?

    So if this the case, our giving our thoughts away to the papz would totally counteract Robstens efforts – hence we would work against Robsten. Again I am asking: do we want that? I am quite certain that we can commonly say no to this.

    On another point, just in case Robsten have really split and our theories turn out to be wrong, I could imagine that for both Robert and Kristen it would be quite sad to hear the news on the tabloids that their break up was faked. It would add to their pain. In fact that would surely be a nightmare. And that is something I certainly do not want either…

    If it is PR, ok well then, I wouldn’t support this. But well, alas, we don’t know what the reason is.
    What I mean to say is, that maybe we should just stick to our internal brainstorming
    And happily wait until it all unfolds naturally. I suppose it will one day. And then I’d really love to see the papz stupid faces… If we give them hints right now, we will miss this glorious moment. And I really don’t want to miss that :-)

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    I think the positions of the car and Kristen & Rupert are roughly accurate but I think that the photographer may have moved laterally across the street in various shots, probably than a couple feet. Can’t be sure of his exact position but it had to be at least back enough to take the one that show 4 pickets of the picket fence.

    I’d love for someone to actually get a CURRENT PICTURE ON THE GROUND. Both here and at Centenela. It would be most helpful. And on Centenela, particularly of the two triangular area between the large West Side self storage building and MJZ Productions and Jigsaw (since we don’t have a good view of it on google) not to mention the lot we identified as the source of some of the pictures. Remember these photos are somewhat dated in google. Building don’t move, but signs, paint, etc can.

    Trying to establish or exclude Centenela as the only scene of the crime of the car pictures.

  • Michaela

    You made a good point, I had not thought about it that way. I’m just so tired of reading lies and people being to mean toward both Kristen and Robert. I just want this thing to be over with. Hopefully our theories are correct and the tabloids are made to look like the shit that they are, and Kristen and Robert will have their revenge. I just hope that we are not the ones that look like fools at the end.

  • Anonymous

    Has anyone seen this article????? http://t.co/uiqkJsaN

  • Anonymous

    Hi Sandy ll, can I sign up to your blog please?

    My email is – soton17@hotmail.co.uk

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Remember- you need to google earth this. If you just use plain maps on Centinela, you see an older image at the address which includes a palm tree in the corner. In earth the image is newer and you get the view we see in the picture. That is another reason why I would love to have some new actual pictures on the ground. It would help me immensely in reaching some important conclusions about the rest of the pictures.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    It was another opportunity, but they passed it by. As I said earlier the timing of this is completely in their hands. By passing, they allow the hype to continue for Cosmopolis wider weekend release. And beyond. When they pull the trigger I don’t know. As long as they keep Kristen relatively off the street (safe from crazies) they can let this run its course a little longer. And play with us all.

  • Entras

    I think I already did, but I can try again if it hasn’t worked for you – no problem :-)

  • Anonymous

    Just received your email Sandy – thank you.

    Can I ask please if I have to create a new google account to access the blog… sorry not very IT literate, lol!!!

  • Entras

    Another quick word :-)

    I added every single one of you to the blog who posted and emaild me their email-address.
    So it should actually work. Please try again or differently if it doesn’t. And let me know. I can try again too

  • Anonymous

    All sorted now. Thanks for your help. :)

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    I don’t think there is any risk that we will mess up their glorious moment. There are too many people out there that are prepared to believe almost anything they are spoon fed, too many that hate Kristen so much that they can’t see straight, and too many nut cases.

    And actually I wouldn’t be surprised if they want to tip some people off. They have done it before. That is why we get all the subtle hints and cues. This is sort of a game for them, probably the only thing that keeps them sane in this crazy celebrity gossip machine world.

    They played with everyone before too and I think they are doing so now. And they have more than a right to do so.

    And finally, I am not about working for or against Robsten. I am not part of a Robsten conspiracy or their pr machine. Although I respect their work, their intelligence, and their creativity. I have only been in it from the beginning for the truth and to solve a mystery. Sorry, my sick hobby again. But as I said before, it sure beats stamp collecting.

    As far as if we are wrong, heah it wouldn’t be the first time. I am not enough of a megalomaniac to believe that they are hanging on my every word in these posts. If we are wrong, they would have plenty of other concerns to occupy their time rather than reading what we are saying in this post.

    All that being said, I respect your point of view.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    There is never anything foolish about asking legitimate questions. The fools are the ones who never question anything.

  • Emily

    No, I am not getting it. My address is egardener23@gmail.com. I must be doing something wrong.

  • Anonymous

    Do you think that someone living in LA would be kind enough to go and take the photos so that twilighter and the rest of us can compare?

  • Emily

    IMO the tabloids don’t want to publish the truth. They want to make money by feeding the frenzy, taking advantage of the gullible and stupid. They don’t want people to question, they want them to follow along like sheep, which most do.

  • Emily
  • Anonymous

    Today at work a few of us looked at these photos and compared them with the popsugar photos and we all agreed that the location is spot on.

    Look at popsugar’s #55 and you can see the brown spindle fence that runs along the side of the garage by the house.. it is the same.

  • Anonymous

    Hi twilighter, can I ask please if you think that the fence in popsugar #38 (RS) and # 33 (KS) are the same? If yes, do you think that this is were KS dropped off RP?

    One final question do you know when KS change her mini cooper from the all black trim to the black with silver trim that she is driving in the pictures?

  • andrea

    I do not think any harm in trying to solve or speculating about the mischief nor do I think we can spoil an alleged intimate moment together nor do I think that if all this affair is true may suffer even more knowing that there are many people thinking that separation is not taken as serious.

    If they are together I hope to seize every moment … if separated hopefully time heals wounds, are young and life ahead and be sure profesional within its work force to follow.

    I sincerely hope all is something fixed but also confess that I have really wanted that if our theory is true that comes to light … I hate everything that is written about Kristen, this hatred she terrifies me, the girl is apparently collecting all the hatred that people feel inside.

    I love the couple and hope if all is true that they can resolve it.

  • Sandra

    @ twilighter (can not reply for some reason)

    Can’t help you with with newer pics, i live in Holland.
    Not exactly in the neighbourhood, unfortunately. Looking forward to your conclusions.

  • Michaela

    Yes, I noticed this about the car too. The mirrors appear to be chrome in the photos but all the old photos I’ve seen of the cooper have black mirrors.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    I think that is probably what they want you to think. But it hard to conclusively say or not say that they were all taken at the same place. That is #33 Kristen driving and 34, 38, 42 the three of Rupert walking. Remember per my earlier post 38 and 42 are the same picture, just cropped for printing.

    What we can say is that none of these is anywhere near Rupert’s house per my earlier post.

    Probably only 53 is near his house (walking by dumpster) but that is literally across the street from his house not three blocks away.

    As to your final question, I don’t know the answer to that one. I saw a previous reference to this not being her same car as before but didn’t run down that detail. You could probably detect that maybe by googling Kristen’s mini cooper images and taking a look at the dates.

  • one who knows

    I doubt of any risk also. It shows there are those who don’t believe the crap, and who knows….maybe we have given them some good input for their ploy.

  • one who knows

    I believe the timing definitely has something to do with BD pt2. That would be most likely when it would have the greatest impact.

  • one who knows

    I just reviewed to photos and the mirror is chrome. It looks black at some angles but it would appear that is from the reflection of the black car due to the curvature of the mirror.

    What i did notice was that she was not carrying paperwork as had been previously noted, but she was in fact, pulling out/tugging at her shirt and from the angle, could be mistaken as white sheets of paper.

  • XYZ

    Hi Sandra.. which part of NL are you from?

  • andrea

    perhaps.

    And one thing about Rupert … I´m seeing the photos and I do not think his attitude is way out on the street, smiling and showing clearly his ring, in my opinion no it isn´t seems the normal attitude of a married man repented and pleading with his wife to forgive him.

    I’m thinking and maybe he´s been working on his documentary and that could very soon come to light which would all relieved and removing all this shit up?

    I do not know is a guess but looking at the pictures I see a man at all defeated and low profile, I have seen almost as arrogant and too sure of himself.

    What do you think?

  • Miss Suzanne

    @glogenie – beautifully said! I must say, I agree 100% with everything you posted. And I especially love how you made some very clear points/opinions, and you did it without blaming anyone.

    I just think that this whole thing is between Kristen & Robert … and I really hope that they get a chance to solve it – one way or another – by themselves. (I mean by not letting the paps doing it for them)

    Personally, I think they have great chemistry together. And for the people who believe “once a cheater, always a cheater” – while that IS true in most cases – I honestly don’t think that applies here with Kristen.
    It’s very easy to be swept off your feet by someone that is in a position of authority

  • andrea

    I like this blog, a lot of interest articles.

    I agree that all is staged but I don´t know the purpose, a lot of theories but nothing concret… I don´t think that the Kristen´s purpose is leaving of Hollywood, she loves to act and if she wanted to quit of this Hollywood´s worls, she´will do it and without give explain.

  • Miss Suzanne

    Please add me to the blog as well!

  • Sandra

    @ XYZ

    I live in Noord-Brabant (South), it is 10-15min away from the border with Belgium. Are you also from NL

  • Trgnurse

    Could I be added to your blog please? I’ve been telling my friends from day one there was something fishy, but they all scoffed. Email is: trgnurse@msn.com

  • Teresa holmes

    youre so right

  • Teresa holmes

    do anyone know if kristen pics of coming out on aug 20th are really on that day or pics from a previous day?
    also why isnt rob and kris and for that matter taylor not going to the twilight conventions. even with a scandal why would summit or whoever make taylor stay home and rob too? i would have expected them to be split up so rob and kris ould not have to be together.

  • XYZ

    @Sandra – yes I am. I live in Flevoland. Are you by chance the Girl from Holland in Robstenation?

  • Sandy II

    you are very welcome :-)

  • Sandra

    @ XYZ

    I am not the girl from robstenation. I do know the blog.
    Never posted there or anywhere else, but on GC.
    What a coincidence we are both from holland :-)
    Started posting because i thought something was off about this whole scandel.
    Only been to Flevoland for walibi Holland.

  • im confused :S

    Hi Sandy II,
    may i please sign up to your blog. i have always believed this was a scandal and i have opinions i would like to share with you :)

    my email is candii@live.com.au

  • andrea

    Really it´s dificult to know exactly the things with the medias but sure the pics are on aug 20th..

    About Twilight Conventions, you know that Kristen and Rob didn´t go there during twilight and New Moon… why?? for the promo all around the world… maybe Summit reserve them to make the last promo all around the world, together or split.

    Not always kristen and Robert were together… the last year, Rob did the promo n fews countries with Ashley… and during Eclipe promo kristen went to Australia and North Corea with Taylor because Rob worked in Water for Elephants.

    I´ve got the feeling that before BD 2 all will be resolve.

  • Teresa holmes

    thankyou i forgot about all that.

  • Teine

    What people fail to realize is the Twilight conventions are not an official Summit/Lionsgate event. It is run by a fandom group with no affiliation at all. The actors have never been obligated to attend. They’re asked because if they agree it brings in the bucks because more people will go, but have the option to decline. That is why you get most of the secondary/lesser known cast members attending – they need the publicity. Rob, Kristen and Taylor do not.

    I don’t blame Rob,Kristen and Taylor for not attending this year after the fiasco of last year where the audience full of the worst fandom has to offer shouted very inappropriate things at them the entire time they were on stage. When is it acceptable to shout about Rob being gay, or asking Kristen if he’s good in bed or what underwear he wears, etc.? It’s embarrassing and bordered on harassment.

  • Cmclaren7

    Why let facts confuse you?

  • Teresa holmes

    thankyou teine. i did not know this. i understand now.

  • Teresa holmes

    everyone is talking about looking at kristen stewarts reaction on sept 6th 2012 toronto film festival but, if rob didnt say anything about the scandal do you really think (private) kristen will? and if she wants us to believe scandal is real dont you think she will purposely look
    somberake herself look sad. so how do we know what we are seeing is real or not? twilighter, anyone?

  • iwonder

    Can someone explain this to me. For days I have watched the comment tab change the number of comments just as you click on it. It just did it again. Comments 1066 changed to 1029. Anyone know why? I’m just curious.

  • Teine

    GC has been deleting some comment that have been flagged. This has been going on for days. Not sure who the culprit is in the flagging.

  • Sandy

    @one who knows – are you still out there? Would you like to join my blog? Would be nice to see you there too :-)

  • Sandy II

    PS: It’s me, Sandy II – don’t know why that other name comes up :-(( ??

  • Siwakatze

    Could I be added to your blog please? siwakatze@gmx.de
    Thanks

  • Sandy II

    Done ;-) Hallo nach Deutschland ;-))

  • andrea

    I think Kristen attendance at TIFF is obviously very influenced and I think this festival is ever so often and had so many expectations as now, is proof that Kristen sells.

    Obviously there are still many days, so many things can happen as news.

    For the film, no doubt, is the best marketing. In the London festival, usually intimate, has been very revealing media coverage there and and now will be much more because now Kristen will be there and they all want to see her on the red carpet parade to analyze everything.

    Kristen, usually uncomfortable with the press, she could be worse than normal, she knows that everyone will have their eyes on her, the press and most of the fans (including fans and haters). She and her team will know all, insults, jeers, tokens of affection etc. ..

    I do not think it will be easy, it will be very complex to deal with all this and more being so introverted person like her front of the audience at first but I’m sure she will have the full support of her partners and director, also there will be interesting to see if the course Tom Sturridge also go there and see how connected together.

    Now I think about something … for many reasons I think everything has been well planned and thought out except perhaps not taken into account the extent of hatred and public lynching that maybe I should have taken less but still and that meant leaving the defense of Jodie Foster … I think if everything has been arranged, Rob, behind the scenes, he will to support her or maybe we may have a surprise… maybe a news about Rupert and Liberty who can do more easily the facts.

    How will Kristen at TIFF? I think we will see a stunning Kristen … becoming a stunning dress, well groomed, makeup and acting as a good professional … she knows it’s now or never, her career goes through this time, many will be watching the film critics and has to show that if Rob being depressed about the alleged scandal and he has done a great promo she also despite his personal problems too and make her work .

    She loves acting, loves her profession … she hates what is to deal with the technical aspect of the promo … But she also knows that to be a big media coverage and that her films are recognized has to go through with in … For this, I believe that during this month, she and her team have worked hard on this aspect and we may see a more open Kristen.

    Personally, I have really wanted to see her, we can see a stronger Kristen … I never liked the media lynching to an actor when his actions corresponded to his personal life.

  • XYZ

    The other Sandy is nasty.

  • Teresa holmes

    could you send me the blog address again i forgot it

  • Teresa holmes
  • Peace :0)

    Hi Teresa,

    Did you get the email I sent you?

    Peace :0)

  • Sandy II

    ok :-)

  • Peace :0)

    He did not sell his house. He said he lives behind an arch, he’s hiding behind an arch. Look at his house. There is an arch at the top of the driveway.

    As far as the mini coop goes…earlier pics of the coop show black mirrors. Not silver mirrors.

    Also, wondering about the location that has been specified of the pics by the fence. Not sure if it’s the angle, but if you look at the pics of her and Rup, the fence looks like it curves. The pics on google look like the fence is straight. Not sure if it’s the same location. Again, may just be the camera angle.

    Don’t know what any of this means. Just stating facts that I have personally seen and looked up. Do not know either of them and I am not an insider. This is all my own perception.

    Peace :0)

  • Teresa holmes

    i enjoy all your post. youre thoughts are often in line with mine.

  • Teresa holmes

    twilighter and many others have done extensive research on the area of the guardrail. everyone has come to the exact same place. this is the spot. fence may have appeared curve to you or camera angle. this is the place.

  • Teresa holmes

    only reason to hide background is to hide true story.

  • Let it go

    Brava, Sandy. Gather everyone up. Talk in private.

  • Let it go

    You ‘don’t think’ there is any risk – but you’re not sure, are you? And, they might want you to lay groundwork and tip people off, but you don’t know that, either.. Solve the mystery, but in private.

    And, believe me, they’re listening.

  • Let it go

    That’s just it. You don’t know. These people are entertainers, not businessmen, not politicians. They really don’t deserve to be raked over the coals.

    Discuss it in private, There is more to reveal, but do it within a small group.

  • Sandy II

    Are you already on my blog? Would be nice to see you there (more people who think it that something is off…)

  • Peace :0)

    Hi Sandy II,

    No, would like to be but not comfortable posting my email on here. :0(

  • Sandy II

    I can completely understand that – feel the same…

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    There is a slight curve in the fence, but it is exaggerated because of the lens used on the camera. Carefully note PopSugar 55 particularly where the picket fence at the end of the property meets the guardrail. There is no doubt that this is the place. See The Grand Punk Part 4 in comment threads to GC KS & RP Rumors Part 5 or 6.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s another one in the comments section from crushable…

    We went to the site!!!
    We live about an hour away, and over the weekend decided to check it out. Took a while to get down the street, but we did it.
    We stood where the “paps” where, and I do have to say that there is NO WAY they couldn’t see them. It’s a street! There are shrubs all along one side of the road (Where Kristen’s car is.), and on the other side is a house. The side with the house is the side where the railing is, and past the railing are a few more shrubs, and another house.
    A little ways up past more houses is another railing where you can see in the far distance the Hollywood Sign. It’s far though.
    The area where the PAPS where the road splits in two, and there is open space (Grass.) in the middle. Nowhere to really hide!

  • livvy77

    Hi sandy. Is there anyway u have a twitter account of somewhere I can privately send u my email address as I don’t feel secure about posting it here. If not that’s cool. Thanks for your time!

  • livvy77

    Hi Twilighter! I haven’t posted since I gave you the address of the lookout. Well things have certainly advanced haven’t they lol!! I absolutely respect and admire your time, effort and dedication to this. I cannot than you enough for helping to fill in the gaps that I had a gut feeling about. Looking forward to hearing more from you in the future!

  • one who knows

    Wish I was closer, I would have taken a ride for myself. I have a feeling the photos of the blue dumpster where Rup was walking is not too far from there. It would make sense that they perhaps tried to keep everything in close proximity once they set the stage.

    Anyway, I am seeing on the other threads that there are many who are now starting to realize that this is not what has been reported and that a prank of some sort is now more believable.
    Thanks to Twilighter’s investigative research, and others who have sifted through the hype to point a finger at the holes and discrepancies, people are starting to come around to a more logical way of thinking.

    Still waiting for your pt6, T! We need some new info!

  • one who knows

    Would love to but not comfortable posting email info, is there any other way?

  • one who knows

    Actually, it seems as thought this thread has died down, so perhaps you could post some of your stuff back on here, and even though it’s not exclusive to you, most have moved on to the newer articles, so we would have a little more peace here than before.

  • one who knows

    I have noticed that, although we have absolutely no new info, GC seems to obtain statements/articles from HL each day, and then show them as rumour. I find it odd that HL is the only tabloid they cite. It is obvious they use it for the additional spin, except at this point everyone just keeps posting the same comments over and over.

    ps – Sandy II, I left you a mssg below. thx.

  • Anonymous

    I think GC are still removing comments, as I posted two comments to twilighter and one has been removed.

  • one who knows

    We are not raking them over the coals. We are trying to find legimate info to debunk the hype is all. If you notice, we are pretty much in support of them, and the direction of this pointing to something other than what has been “reported by sources”, yet not validated.

  • one who knows

    Odd, I havent seen anything removed for a few days now. Repost them. I think it might have been a glitch. After that first day they removed stuff, I had a hard time posting also, but it seemed to get back to normal after I tried a few times.

  • one who knows

    Great quote above, by the way.

  • one who knows

    Why don’t you go on the other boards and tell them to talk in private. No bashing going on here. Do you know something? are we getting too close?

  • Teresa holmes

    there is too much proof of this being a scam. i reaaly believe that. i just want to know why. the proof is not in shallow things like clothing or jewlry or certain looks. it is grounded in things factual. example the actual site pics were taken.

  • katie

    Hi Teresa, Did you get my email? I do not feel comfortable posting my email address here.

  • andrea

    Exactly. It seems that the other tabloids have left the issue die except HL and HL whenever they write an article that is usually so different and opposite the following writing, after webloids others do the same.

    Today the news is again Rupert with his children … indeed, it seems a shame to take the children in the press. In Spain and France, the press has to put a few pixels on the faces but no possible complaints by law for the protection of minors.

    Again, Ruppert sees happy … nothing is known but certainly with his face reflects happiness.

    And in my opinion, sometimes they say no news is good news … but I think before we may know to TIFF…

  • one who knows

    Maybe we will get some new crumbs this week. September is upon us and the TIFF is very close, that will be most interesting to see who shows and how its set up.

  • andrea

    very interested to read that!!!
    Thanks so much to put it here and thanks to the people who went there to judge for themselves.

  • one who knows

    Seems as though they only have Rup to show to keep any momentum going on the story so it doesnt die completely. They are hard pressed to give us something, anything.

  • andrea

    So is gradually more people realizing that the facts are not as it seems.

    It is appreciated the participation of people who have been on site to actually see the crime scene if I may say so.

    I also have to thank many of you, like you, Twilighter, Sandy and many more taking your time to analyze and talk respectfully towards this affair, it is a treat to find this in places like this where normally disrespect is enormous.

    I look forward to the new note of Twilighter, any new opinions of all and of course, I hope that soon we can have answers and if those involved better but I have no illusions … I even think that everything has surpassed expected no fuss … wait and see, our motto!

  • Sandy II

    Twilighter, would you like to join my blog…….?
    It is a closed community-blog, i.e. only invited people can log in. If you would like you could send your email to this address and I could add you- punkornotblog.@web.de. You will find yourself in the company of all the ones that have become familiar to you from posting here over the past weeks… Would be an honor :-))))

  • Sandy II

    Hi there, I set up a new email address, so you can contact me there :-) I will then send add your email to the members list of the blog.

  • Sandy II

    Hi there, I set up a new email address, so you can contact me there :-) I will then send add your email to the members list of the blog.

  • Sandy II

    Hi there, I set up a new email address, so you can contact me there :-) I will then send add your email to the members list of the blog.

  • Sandy II

    Silly me… forgot the email address… punkornotblog@web.de

  • Sandy II

    Silly me… forgot the email address… punkornotblog@web.de

  • Sandy II

    Silly me… forgot the email address… punkornotblog@web.de

  • one who knows

    Here is a quote from Maressa Brown on “Cafe Mom” from a few days ago:

    “Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I’m not the only one who has had a sneaking suspicion that maybe just maaaybe Kristen Stewart didn’t actually cheat on Rob with Rupert Sanders. Maybe the story was neatly crafted by the couple themselves or a snickering team of movie publicists, as a publicity stunt that could kill several birds with one big fat juicy stone …

    The Cosmopolis box office results — which may have been a canary in the coal mine to test the potential for a huge Breaking Dawn: Part 2 opening — isn’t the only piece of evidence to support the scenario.

    There’s also the fact that the two seem to be getting out of multiple Twilight press events scot-free. Given how OVER it the two of them have seemed for some time, I could totally see Rob and Kristen having their agents try to finagle a way for them to get out of promoting the franchise they’ve undoubtedly become fatigued with over the past few years. By chalking their absence up to being “estranged” and “distressed” due to a split, they could easily back out of the usual circuit of junkets, Twilight conventions, and even award shows (cough like the VMAs) they never seemed really game for in the first place.”

    It’s another interesting comment, however, the Twilight series has been the cash cow and rocketed them both to success and HUGE dollars. I would hope they would be responsible enough to know that as part of their success comes obligation to complete their professional committments. And I believe they will do this, with a huge smile and a “grand punk”.

  • one who knows

    And another hoax opinion from Chris Drake:

    “Kristen Stewart’s Affair is a Hoax
    The past few weeks I have seen all kinds of crap about Kristen Stewart snogging (yes, I have read Harry Potter) with some British director — who cares what his name is. Apparently some Twi-tards are very upset about that situation. Normally I would treat this news with the same level of disregard as new additions to Oprah Winfrey’s book club… but this time I smell a rat. See if you can follow me here.

    Kristen Stewart is perhaps the hottest young actress in Hollywood these days. She played the coveted role of “Bella” in Twilight. Apart from that obvious dreck, she has actually done some decent work; I rather enjoyed the movies “Panic Room” and “Snow White”. With her high profile, the paparazzi probably stick to her like… something really sticky. She must be comfortable being followed around by those human parasites.

    So how in the hell was she so STUPID to have her little kissy-touchy sessions in broad daylight! If it were just the picture in the car I might have believed the whole thing, but they were in some kind of public park. Whether or not the camera man was hiding in the bushes or using a telephoto lens, those two would have known better. If they were not able to predict being photographed, the real story here is that both of them are hard-core drug addicts, because they must have been high.

    So the question is: why?

    The only thing I can possibly think of is that the Twilight movies have fallen out of grace as the hot franchise, in favor of “The Hunger Games” or whatever. I actually saw the first Twilight movie, and it was … bad. I have not seen any since then, but Rotten Tomatoes has not been kind to them. “Breaking Dawn, Part One” got all of 25%, and its $283 million box office draw seems respectable, but was probably disappointing to the studio.

    So I call shenanigans. This is some kind of publicity stunt to draw attention to the fictional relationship between Bella and Cedric Diggory. If we are lucky, Kristen Stewart will go through a phase of deep inner reflection followed by a well-publicized relationship with Shark Boy. That should raise the tickets sales for part two of “Breaking Dawn”.”

    Some of his comments ar a bit sarcasatic, but the point is, he sees through the falsehoods reported by the media.

  • andrea

    Everything is very possible. Also for me the big winner in all this would be Summit and their last movie … they know it is the last chance they have to make the jack-pot, have to ensure the maximum possible expectation and that means large-scale marketing. They have to raise for the last time and that means further boost the two main characters.

    For now that is benefiting is Robert. Cosmopolis is having a lot of publicity and despite being an indie film is generating money despite not being released across the country … and Robert is sharing of popularity is on top, and has virtually no detractors, affair has made him win sympathy.

    The only problem I see is the only person who is receiving all the shit is Kristen … hatred, threats, allegedly lost projects, etc … herself has decided to make her boyfriend be the “good” and her willingly accepted a character in the role of “bad”?

    I’m of the thinking that all is possible in Hollywood … Any theory can be good … she would be able to let all treated to the premiere of BD part 2 before the premiere and make the couple miraculously reconcile? Of course the happy ending would dream for many.

  • andrea

    TIFF will be widely publicized thanks to Kristen … would be interesting enough, lol

  • one who knows

    And this just in from Twitlonger:

    “E news has denied the rumor (of an indiscretion), saying that was a guess of the media, and that the photographer has been contacted by US offering him a large sum of money for every little news that could get against Kristen. Tomorrow Rupert begins with the lawsuit to the newspaper. That’s why the magazine has removed the material…”

    Not sure how true this is, but could be…

  • andrea

    exactly

  • one who knows

    I heard quite a while back that Stephanie Meyers said something to the effect of “not outruling another sequel”. They could also be testing the waters now that there is so much hype….

  • andrea

    wowww, you are amazing to find it and post it here!!

    finally something is moving…and something tells me that is the beginning!

  • one who knows

    And we can’t forget…..over the years Rob has fed the media false info, hoping they would pick it up and spin with it, just to prove a point. He stated his mother even calls him to verify if what she heard was true. And when some of the things he has said have not been picked up by the “sources”, he complains “but I put it out there for them”. A prankster? I think so.

    Sorry for all the long posts, guess I am just catching up after a few days of not commenting.

  • andrea

    I can´t wait to be to tomorrow!!!

    maybe if for that Rupert is so happy and smile because he knew that soon the truth will be go out.

    Please, if you know everything, post it here.

  • andrea

    I forgot to write.

    maybe all this silence all of them four, the 2 couples… attorneys have counseled silence and let them working.

  • andrea

    write everything you want, on the contrary, I love your posts and miss it

    What Rob is true, has a point!

  • andrea

    but tell me, how explain the pics because all we can see them… how it´s posible to do the lawsuit about these pics?

  • Anonymous

    This was the original post that was on the comments section of crushable.

    The paps story that US published doesn’t add up. “Cyber sleuths” have found that the pictures at the guardrail are on a residential street (Pacific View Drive) not a trail overlooking Hollywood and it is not secluded at all. If you
    google earth it you can see there are very few places for a pap to hide, let alone one that followed you up a twisty, winding road (remember, by this time, according to the story, the original pap had called for and gotten four back-up photographers.

    The magazine claims as they arrived at the overlook, after Rupert directs her where to park:
    “ By then it was 5:15 PM and the two stayed in the car…when it seemed quiet in the park, the two dared to leave the car to take in the view. Leaning against the guard rail, he embraced her from behind …‘A few people would walk by, and as soon as they heard a voice, they would split up and walk in other directions.’ When a group of people with a dog came along, the two RETREATED TO HER CAR TO KISS FOR ANOTHER 20 MINUTES before leaving’’. If the pap is hiding and using a telephoto lens, how did he know the two would “hear” a voice and split up (should be too far away). Also, her car is parked up against an embankment – how could he get in the passenger door? THEN she drives him home, lets him out, and there’s a final kiss, but there is absolutely no picture of that.

    How’d Rupe get there? Paps say Kristen waited for him for 15 minutes and then he gets in the car; however, there are no pictures of this at all.
    Paps claim rupe was kissing her all over her body, but there are no pictures of that.

    Paps claim that they drove all over LA looking for places to make out, but pics are only from two places – the guardrail and the parking lot. This is proved because in every parking lot picture you can see the same building reflection in it.

    There’s more – don’t want to bore anyone who’s not interested so let me know if you have other questions. Not trying to sound like an insider or anything, it’s just an odd mystery to me.

  • one who knows

    Another interesting tid-bit I found, maybe Summit IS behind this (or at least involved in the prank):

    “Twilight in Forks: The Saga of a Real Town” was released back in Fall, 2009 (I think), which was a documentary about the impact the story had on the fans, and on the town it was filmed in. There was also another documentary Summit did after that, titled “Forks, Bitten by Twilight”, which has yet to be released. Apparently someone stole their cover art and they were supposedly in litigation over this, but Summit never stated that they were pulling it, just sorting it out (as far as I have been able to verify).

  • andrea

    We (Sandy´s blog) read some tweets in twitter and it´s very curious.

    A girl has got an account in Fameflynet and she can see all the pics… but for something strange there are not the very famous pics of the cheating scandal… what do you think??

    In my opinion it´s not logic that a company like Fameflynet who did the notice of the year has got almost all the kristen´s pics, everydays to the gym for example but nothing od the Day D and nothing about the scandal.

    I´d like to read your opinions about that.

  • one who knows

    As we have concluded, there were not many pics taken (for some strange reason). Some sites have taken them down, but I think they can still be found on popsugar. As far as Rup suing, am not sure of the validity of the story. If it can be proven that the photos were altered (i did find one pic of the “tryst” where someone showed a pic of K’s head in a shot from “Elle” that looked like it could have been the same face as in one of the photos at the lookout), and the reports are fake, then sure, Rup could initiate a lawsuit. Could be part of the plan.

  • one who knows

    Taking a break for a while, be back later. Let me know what else you guys have come up with.

  • andrea
  • Peace :0)

    Thanks! Sending you an email now! :0)

  • Peace :0)

    Thank you! Again, I wasn’t sure if it was the angle or not.
    I saw that some people went to the actual site too. How exciting!

    Peace :0)

  • one who knows

    new format, uh oh, what’s going on…..

  • one who knows

    that’s prob why some posts have been deleted, when they reconfigured everything. Did I miss anything?

  • one who knows

    that’s the same one I saw
    did you find anything else?

  • Peace :0)

    Thanks Teresa!

  • livvy77

    This will sound stupid but how do I get your email address? This comment section is all very confusing at the moment!!!

  • one who knows

    This isn’t about R & K, however an interesting article posted on WGNO/ABC in Louisiana website on July 26………
    Meet Ryan Holiday, a self-described “media manipulator” who’s gained national
    media attention; after he publicly exposed what he believes is a secret
    arrangement between reporters and publicists who trade information.

    “Like
    they say, you need an expert for your story, I’ll be that expert I’ll tell you
    what is best for your story,” Holiday explained.

    Holiday says he first
    set out to show how internet bloggers fail to check facts. That was until some
    top news outlets fell for it, and turned to Ryan as an expert.

    “In the
    new York times, I was a turntable expert, in MSNBC
    I was someone who had a horror story about someone working in a fast food
    restaurant,” Holiday said. “For ABC
    news I was a long time sufferer of insomnia.”

    None of which had even an
    ounce of truth.

    But it didn’t stop him from appearing on shows like CTV
    as an actual a media strategist.

    Details of Ryan’s experiment are
    outlined in his newly published book, titled, what else…”Trust Me I’m
    lying.”

    Which got me thinking….? Is he really who he says he
    is?

    Without warning, I asked him to show two pieces of ID.

    “So
    there’s my Louisiana driver’s license, then what do you want a credit card,”
    Holiday said.

    Everything checked out.

    Ryan says that’s all any of
    the media outlets had to do was check him out; but apparently that didn’t
    happen.

    Ryan says he turned to Forbes to confess he’d duped media outlets
    – and the story went viral.

    “I think people are really appalled to see
    how easily the news can be distorted or influenced,” Holiday said.

    Ryan
    says he’s never worked as a print or television news journalist; not even in the
    public relations field.

    But he says it doesn’t take a degree to know
    journalism 101; that there are no short cuts, and that facts have to be
    checked.

    “I wanted people to know that the front door was left wide open
    and anyone could walk right in,” said Holiday.

    Ryan Holiday says even
    though he’s apologized to the New
    York Times, his point has been made.

    I think it proves a very big point.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Thought for the day: This one is a doozy

    Ever since the beginning of this “scandal” we have been slowly but surely peeling away the locations of the various “scandal” photographs. As a result we now know that the guardrail overlook photos were taken at 7267 Pacific View Drive, not at some scenic overlook viewing downtown LA and the Hollywood sign. We also identified the probable location of one of the pictures of Rupert walking (PopSugar #53) as being directly across the street from his house. Finally two photographs of non-makeout photographs of Kristen and Rupert in her car (PopSugar 26 & 37) were taken at 2094 S. Centinela Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90064 per google. Just around the corner from MJZ Productions where Rupert is listed as a director,

    But I have continued to struggle trying to locate where the final group of photos were taken, the car makeout photographs. They were obviously taken from the same place because of the identical reflections that appear in the door of Kristen’s car. Although Centinela Avenue was a viable place to look, I have been unable to locate a place that matches what is depicted in the photos. [Although it would be most helpful if someone could upload photographs of how that area looks now, as well as photos of the off street areas between MJZ, the building Jigsaw is in, the Self Storage building, to definitively exclude that area.]

    Then I remembered an early comment by “one who knows” or someone else from the “conspiracy” buffs that said they thought those photographs were taken on a movie set or a studio lot, something that crossed my mind as well. So I played a hunch and started poking around on Google Earth looking at Universal Studios, the company that owns SWATH and where obviously Rupert and Kristen would have easy access and could get a secure setting to film their “punk”.

    As I started to look I found a lot of fencing all over the complex that is highly similar to the fencing depicted behind Kristen’s car in PopSugar #33, this is the one where she is driving alone in her mini. If you go into the entrance of Universal Studios at the intersection of (Lankershim Blvd & Universal Hollywood Drive, LA) and are in street view, enter the complex and go just past the Universal Sigh and look to your left. See the long black fence on the left side of the street. You’ll see what I mean. I’m not saying this is the place, I saying this leads me to believe that the place is probably somewhere on the Universal lot. I found similar fencing in other parts of the complex but haven’t been able to search the whole grounds. Just a hunch, but its worth exploring given our lack of success in locating the locations of these photographs at other places.

    But then it hit me. You know how I mentioned that Rob and Kristen have a long history of toying with and leaving clues about their relationship. Well I think they left one of the biggest ones to this whole “scandal” and they have been pointing the way to it ever since we identified Pacific View Drive. Its been right in front of noses all along.

    I’ve always wondered why Pacific View Drive? Just a random street not to far from Rupert’s house? It didn’t face Hollywood or the Hollywood sign which tipped us off that the “scandal” per the paparazzi version was a lie. But where did it face? In an early post I said it didn’t provide a view south over Hollywood, at best it looked north towards Universal City. But I was wrong, it wasn’t just Universal City, it was actually Universal Studios in the distance. As they stood at the overlook, they had a clear line of sight to Universal Studios where business is fantasy. And where I believe they took the remainder of the “scandal” photos. And they were showing us where to look.

    Call it a hunch or call me crazy. But when you think about elegance of it, it is absolutely mind-blowing as a clue. And when you think about it, why else would they be there looking at all. We already know it wasn’t for a broad daylight, out in the open, romantic encounter. To steal a Julia Styles quote from the Bourne triolgy, “They don’t do random”. All of these places mean something.

    That said, I think its time to focus on Universal Studios. Somewhere within its confines lie the place where the final set of these pictures were taken. And with it the complete unraveling of the version of events that US Magazine & FameFlyNet claim.

    Let know what you think, and more importantly, what you find.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Sure thing. Would have done this sooner but lost this thread. Things are just too crazy. I send you an email.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    We owe you a great debt of gratitude for the find you made. Really jump started a lot of the work that followed. Out of curiosity, how did you find that address?

  • teresa

    interesting

  • teresa

    you may be on to something! keep searching and later we’ll celebrate. odd that the gate matches universal and the guardrail shot overlloks it. there are just too many coincedences.

  • teresa

    if this is true rupert suing would mean what exactly?

  • teresa

    tell me more

  • teresa

    doubt it. i think myers is done with twilight or at least she should be. go out on top.

  • one who knows

    I took a look and browsed the area of Universal Studios. Didn’t really see a spot that looked familiar to the pics, but there are alot of spots behind some buidings that look like maintainence and supply bldgs with dumpsters, etc. so perhaps there is a nook somewhere.
    However, I did check the Centinela Ave area again and, here is what I found:
    It seems I got a more recent view froom google (2012). The 2012 view shows the spot ,but when you zoom in really close, the image shown is the one from 2011. Here is where it gets interesting……
    It would appear that the white brick background along the passenger side of the car (#26) HAS BEEN PAINTED RED (in the 2012 photo but not in the 2011 photo, and not in K&Rup photo), and the small parking lot has NEW BLACKTOP (in the 2012 photo but not in the 2011 or the K&Rup photo). It also looks like the white building in that lot has been a bit refurbished and the general area has been cleaned up and/or upgraded.
    Now, unless they painted the white brick, blacktopped and fixed up the bldg in the last few weeks, the photos of K & Rup cannot be recent.
    Your take on that please.

  • one who knows

    IF Rup is suing, it would likely mean that the stories out there are not true.

  • audrey

    @ one who knows

    I put the pic before but I still waiting moderation of my post.

    I found this pic… you should maximizer the pic

    http://i49.tinypic.com/m77u34.jpg

  • one who knows

    I answered you below where you put your other link. It’s the same one I saw, and looks like it could be possible for it to be photoshopped, but am not sure. Twilighter may be able to tell better than I can.

  • livvy77

    Oh wish it was an exciting story but someone simply posted it on a blog and I googled earthed it out of curiosity. I have no idea how they got it – I think it was someone on Robsessed. I then saw your question about the location and thought I could finally be useful in providing info lol!! I wish it was far more juicy like ‘insider info’ but hell, I live in Australia, i got nothin ‘insider’ over here!!!!

  • one who knows

    Was there a question you had that I missed? I thought I answered about the picture and about Rupert suing. See below or let me know what I forgot.

  • Audrey

    when you say: “the photos of K and R can not be recent”… what do you want to say exactly??

    When you say that the photos are not recent including … let assume then that the paparazzi has not only lied about the development of the facts, but also about the place and on the date … what could make him an accomplice?
    If the photos are actually made ​​at an earlier date as explained in the press, this day could be because there are no photos of Kristen in and out of the gym when every day iwe can see her … So yeah, no photos of her leaving the gym but we have to trust the paparazzi who said he saw her out and got a call from Rupert, what strikes me that the paparazzi knew the caller was Rupert because all is staged the facts and inadvertently betrayed himself either has a bionic ears able to hear conversations. No picture of Kristen leaving the gym but if dressed like that to go supposedly to see his lover dressed like that, is not romantic, funny way to seduce and not to mention the lack of nothing of dedication and passion in the photos, as I said earlier, for me are less ardent lovers of the world.

    I’ll speculate this morning (in Spain are 11am in the morning) … each day brings us closer to TIFF and something tells me this before we’ll know much more … can not let Kristen is thrown to the lions.

  • Audrey

    quiet, I read all your posts and do not think you’ve missed something … these at all! lol

  • teresa

    O.M.G.

  • one who knows

    The parking lot that Rup & K were in the car has been fixed up and doesnt look the same. In their photo, it shows the way the parking lot used to look, not the way it looks now, so maybe the photos were not recent.

  • michaela

    Hi
    Twilighter and One Who Knows

    As an avid
    Robsten fan, I truly appreciate all the time and effort you’re putting into
    revealing the truth behind this scandal.
    So if I understood your post correctly, you’re still having trouble
    trying to locate where the infamous car “makeout” photos were taken. You are not convinced that they were taken at
    the Centinela Ave location? I
    apologize in advance if I’m mistaken or have misunderstood your post but this
    is what my novice eyes have discovered.
    When I google mapped the Centinela Ave building (2012 photo) I notice
    that at the far right of the screen, there is a smaller white building with burgundy
    painted line running horizontal. Look at
    the popsugar photos 2, 6, 11, 24, 45, 46, look very closely at the reflection
    in the car mirror, I believe you see that same burgundy swipe.

    Photo 49 look at the reflection of the white parking lines
    on the car, in my opinion they match the parking lines painted in the parking
    lot of the Centinela location. Also one other thing I have noticed about photo
    49. Look at the white wall behind the car, look at the white brick or (cement
    blocks whatever they are). When I zoomed
    in on the Centinela building wall, the brick (cement blocks) look to be the
    same shape and size.

    So in my humble opinion, I do believe that the
    car photos were all taken at this location.
    If this is true, because the parking lot is small, and there doesn’t
    seem to be much place for a photographer to hide without being seen, and the
    fact that both Kristen and what’s his face looked directly at the camera, the “staged”
    theory is very likely true. At least I hope it is. Please let me know what you think.

  • one who knows

    Yes, that is the location. I noted earlier how it changed (was upgraded) and that there is a liklihood that the photos are older than reported.

  • Sandy II

    Great :-) (Clapping my hands madly with excitement…)

  • michaela

    I’m sorry I misunderstood you and Twilighter. So if the photos were taken earlier than reported what do you think it means?

  • teresa

    twilighter still waiting for grand punk part 6&7

  • one who knows

    Do give us more….

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    I think I have the map thing figured. read http://www.labnol.org/internet/find-date-of-satellite-images/2964/

    Then open the address in google maps and google earth side by side in two windows. Maps shows the red wall. and at the bottom has an indication of mapdata 2012@google. That’s a copyright not the date of the image. In that same view, if you hit the carat under traffic and uncheck 45 degrees box, poof the red disappears and the map data label doesn’t change. If you go to street view you get the date of the image (from the photo trucks)

    Earth shows the white wall from the satellite view and gives you the imagery date of the image to the very day. When you go to street view, you also get the date.

    Long story short, the red wall picture is not from 2012, its probably much earlier. The most recent tagged photos showing the white are March and July of 2011. As I said, I’ll have current ground photos shortly, which should confirm the above.

    The expertise we are developing is astounding!

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Yeah I was trying to go their as well. That the car is parked at an angle to the property so that you are picking up the adjacent building’s burgandy line and the building itself within the parking lot in the reflection of the mirror. There are a couple problems that cause me to hesitate coming to this conclusion.

    Take a look at PopSugar 49 probably the best overall view of the car while they are “kissing” since its taken zoomed back a bit.
    1. The door reflection of the paint lines in the pavement don’t match up to the scene at Centelina. 2. The reflection of the building in the door doesn’t match up any which way to Centelina. And 3). the door reflection in 26 (and its identical recropped pair 37) and 49 can’t be reconciled. We know 26 is at this address but how do we put 49 there with its door reflection. Finally we have a problem with the dark colored 7 shaped item rising above the building reflection right behind and below Kristen’s Driver side mirror.

    At worse yet there is the faint banding that runs parallel across the car through Kristen’s head. I initially took it as overhead lines and there are some high wires that run along the street near the entrance to the lot. Problem is you can’t get them to orient property at this place consistent with the photos.

    The good thing is we know all the rest of the photos other than 26 & 37 were taken at the same place because the door building reflection and the mirror reflection. The question remains where is that place. And even if they were all taken at Centelina, as you correctly note, it doesn’t change the conclusion that the photographer would have had to have been within the lot to have taken them.

    As I said I should have fresh photos on the ground by the weekend and may be able to exclude Centelina as that place. Which would at least tell us where they weren’t taken.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    I getting photos taken, less await that rather than burning energy on this speculating.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    They are in the business of selling pictures. They are beyond US Mag’s exclusive, its very odd that they are not.

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    I have always thought that there were two oddly appearing pictures, what I have called the money shots 5, 9,16 and 19. These were the two US Mag used early on and for their cover. They just look a bit odd, somehow out of proportion. I guess we don’t necessarily have to conclude that they are all real or all faked. maybe its a combination of the two, and that itself could be telling us something.

  • Sandra

    I am also interested in if the markings have changed. If you look at the refection of the “kissing pics” you see the markings of the lot, a white wall, what appears to be the gate and above the white wall there is something i can not place.
    In the reflection the markings and the wall are going in the same direction, but when you google earth it they do not.

    Not sure if all the parking lot pics are taken at the same place, but they do have some similarity.

  • Michaela

    More photos? That’s great. I can’t wait to hear from you.

  • one who knows

    What you have found makes sense, and would be a good explanation, i will definitely have a look at that.
    However, what about the palm tree? There can be no denying that the plant was NOT there in the orig photos we saw, and in the photos with the red wall, it is there. That would still indicate that whatever we are seeing is from 2 different dates. That would definitely mean some kind of timeline issue.
    I hope someone responds to your request about going there and taking new photos and uploading them for us to see the present condition of the site. That would surely help to shed more light on this.
    I hope this doesn’t throw any kind of wrench in your other research of the photos, certainly not my intention at all, however, once i saw it, i could not dismiss it (and you have to admit it appears to be fact, not fiction, which has been what we have been trying to focus on).

  • http://twitter.com/twilighted57 twilighter

    Just some more food for thought on Centinela. Here is a tax record site that shows more pictures, again consistent with the “scandal” photos. White wall photos.
    http://www.loopnet.com/Property-Record/2272-S-Centinela-Avenue-Los-Angeles-CA-90064/QSS3VVx5g/Photos/ Make sure you hit the more pictures link and nine pictures including a view from inside looking out onto the parking lot from the “garage” and one of looking deadon to the building from the lot.

  • one who knows

    The building in the photo they show is the same one for both addresses, but it is not the building from parking lot at the “scene of the crime” (at least not the one with the red wall and the palm tree) And what about that palm tree, it was in the recent google earth shot, but not in the others? (Kind of like the disappearing hat trick?) Confusing.

  • PRINCESS

    all you gossip mags need to back off stop printing false facts and pictures get a life stay away from celbs personal lives its all your falts that kristen and rob arent together if you where true fans and friends BACK OFF LEAVE THEM ALONE STOP PRINTING THINGS ON THERE PERONAL LIVES ITS THERE PERSONAL LIVES AND THERES ALONE BACK OFF TOM AND KATIE AND OTHER CELEBS BROKE UP WNY CAUSE OF PRESS AND MAGS FALLOWING THEM AROUND AND TAKING PICTURE AND FALSE REPORTING WITHOUT THERE PERMISHION THATS WRONG TRUE FANS EVEN TWILIGHT FANS WOULD STOP COMENTING ON THINGS THAT ARE NON OF THERE BUISNESS THESE FALSE STORYS ARE GETTING OLD THE CELEBRITYS DESERVE NORMEL LIVES TO YOU KNOW GOING TO STORES ARE DOING STUFF WITH FAMILYS COME ON LEAVE THEM ALONE CELEBRITYS SHOULDENT HAVE TO MOVE TO ANOTHER GET AWAY FROM PRESS AND MAGS THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE WHERE EVER THEY WANT AND HAVE A NORMEL LIFE RAISE THERE KIDS WITHOUT FLASH BALBS GOING OFF IN THERE FACES ARE THERE KIDS FACES 24/7 COME ON HAVE A HEART BACK OFF AN ASK TO TAKE A PICTUE ARE ASK QUESTIONS FIRST BEFOR YOU BUG THEM ARE UPSET THEM THINK BEFOR YOU TAKE PICTURES ARE MAKE REPORTS IN MAGS ARE ON THE AIR PLEASE CONSIDER THERE FEELINGS CAUSE THE MORE YOU SAY AND PRINT THE MORE YOU ARE NOT THING OF THERE FEELING just stop please twilight fans reguler fans press of mags an other show please think of them if you where a celebrity would you want cameras going off around you all the time taking pictures of your family and friends making false reports facts ingenral just take a minute and think who your trully hurting its not you it them your not thinking of there feelings in the matter

  • Anonymous

    Hi Twilighter,

    I can’t open up the smaller pictures on your link so I maybe wrong, but the markings showing on the door of KS car in popsugar 15 looks the same as the marking on the ground in picture 9 of 2272 Centinela Ave. These pictures also look slightly darker, so maybe the kissing pictures were taken inside the recessed parking.

    Popsugar 26 has what looks like in the extreme right of the photo the same recessed parking exit and red bricked wall as 2272 Centinela Ave picture 5.

  • one who knows

    I have just spent more time on the maps, here is what i found:
    GoogleMaps use the same data as GoogleEarth
    The trademark date is not necessarily the image date
    On all maps there is an image or imagery date as well as a trademark date
    The map with the white wall specifically shows a 2012 Google trademark date, with an IMAGE date of July 2011
    The map with the red wall and palm tree plant shows a 2012 Google trademark datea, with an IMAGE date of 2012 also (couldn’t see the month)
    Also, FYI, the Pacific View map that we have been looking at, on close up shows an October 2011 image date.
    A confusing set of images, but it does make the timeline more questionable.
    Thoughts?

  • one who knows

    Something else interesting I noticed in the photos, not sure of any real relevance but here goes: #33 where she is obviously driving, if you zoom in to the reflection under the door handle and to the right of it, there appears to be 2 metal cylindrical objects that look to me like airplanes. I tracked the address of the gym to the centinela area, and she would have had to drive past the SantaMonica airport. If she took Airport Ave, instead of the Freeway, she would have driven past many hangars, hence an airplane image? (there is also reflection of tree branches on her windshield which would not show if she were on the freeway) Not sure what this would prove, if anything (maybe some time could have been spent at the airport looking for a spot to hide in plain sight).
    Also, all the images in the parking lot that show a reflection on the lower part of the door, that appears to be possibly a building…..upon further thought and examination, I think it’s the reflection of the “property line” wall across and level from them in the l