and lets see how many psychos are going to comment in here about why Gossip Cop always denies the Rob and Kristen rumors, taking the posts up to the hundreds ,LOL idk which are worse the stupid rumors or the ones that only focus on these to comment on while Gossip cop denies multiple rumors of the majority of the popular celebs but people barely comment on them, hmmm lol

That was just a silly story. Quit tearing these two lovely people apart and making mountains out of nothing if they have a friend of the opposite sex. OMG – they are normal people – in love with each other – working to build their careers. Unlike most of the immature people spewing lies out there, they appear to be actually mature enough and confident enough in their relationship to not need to be together 24×7. I can only imagine how hard they are working and how special the reunions are when they can be together. Hats off to both of you K & R.

and for the record, there isnt even a picture of her with him from last nights premiere. She was with Taylor L…. so does that mean shes using Taylor to make Rob jealous too? Clearly NOT. Lame.

As usual, there’s a grain of truth in that story. Rob has been out having a good time in bars, restaurants and at parties, many times while he’s been in Toronto. He’s been on his own because Kristen left Canada five weeks ago. Outside of being paid to make an appearance at the L.A. film festival, she hasn’t been working while she’s been in L.A. There’s nothing to keep her from going back to Toronto, she can afford the airfare. Looks like Rob told her to stay away. Their friends with benefits deal doesn’t seem to be interesting him while he’s busy making a movie.

The only reason Garrett was at the L.A. film festival last night was because the producer of On The Road is also the director of the festival. He wanted both Garrett and Kristen to be there for publicity, and it looks like he got what he wanted. So much PR.

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Rob goes out like once a week. What’s the crime in that? How do you know that Kristen hasn’t been working in LA? Do you have her schedule? How do you know she hasn’t snuck in and out of Toronto?

The producer of OTR is actually a she, and she came with Garrett last night. Kristen and Taylor were there for Summit and to support Chris.

I’ll say it again. You all place so much faith on this girl meanwhile the same exact thing was said of Rob when she was reported to have been “caught” hanging out with him when she was still with her ex bf. Do I think her and Rob are over? No, but Garrett and Kris “just hanging as friends” doesn’t surprise me. I think she is a normal girl and if she wants to have fun then who cares.

“And they’re off!”

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where’s this coming from?

There’s absolutely no crime in Rob going out to bars and parties, hanging with the lovely females of Toronto, he’s single, according to all his interviews. He can do whatever he wants, more power to him. And he went out three times last week that we know of, not once. The point is, he’s not sitting alone in his hotel room, talking on the phone to Kristen. All SWATH preproduction is being done in London, that’s a fact. If she were working on that, she’d be there and she’s not.

And you’re correct, the producer of OTR is a female and she’s also the director of LAFF.
http://www.celebuzz.com/2011-06-22/garrett-hedlund-on-the-road-producer-talk-awesome-kristen-stewart-hint-at-films-status/
“Hedlund was on the arm of his On the Road producer Rebecca Yeldham, who is also the director of the Los Angeles Film Festival. Garrett has been with her throughout LAFF, and the two played coy when we tried to get the status of the flick.”

They were both paid to be there for publicity for OTR, which still doesn’t have a distributor or a release date. Some think the almost XXX rated material is keeping anyone from wanting to make a distribution deal. It may have to go the festival route for a long time before anyone wants to put it in wide release. Too bad all of Kristen’s indies have such a hard time finding an audience.

Kristen is not in TO cuz she wans’t invited and she’s not a clingy loser. She knows what’s he’s doing and who he’s doing in his free time, she’s not dumb. She’s spending time with her family and friends. Shippers who think their relationship was perfect are going to be so dissapointed when the shit hits the fun, sooner than later.

Rob is not cheating on Kristen, I dont know where these stories come from, and the one about rob going out with cc is crazy…first of all she is like what 40, rob works 12 hours some days and maybe goes out for a beer or two, he sometimes goes with cast members and then leaves alone, This has all be reported by either extras on the set or people working full time on the set….And as for Garrett he is just a PR Hound wherever he can get exposed he will and right now that happens to be wherever KS is….Nobody know any bits of truth about these two all gossip and most likely fibs…..People get a grip rob and kristen are adults they can do whatever they want they are not tied at the hip, we dont know what the inside of the relationship is…..so everyone calm down with the rumors and stories and see what plays out..

All of this makes me see why they would never want to come “out” as a couple of they’re really dating. Kristen was asked “well why dont you just come out and give an answer, wouldnt it make things easier” and she said no. I now get it! Because it changes from stories of “Oooo, are they dating? Lets try and figure it out!” to “Omg, shes cheating!” “Omg, hes cheating!” and that, IMO, is much much worse!!

Its all fucking shit and you’re all listening to magazines that were created for your ENTERTAINMENT. They were never created to give you reliable news. Closest one is maybe People and people NEVER makes stories like this! Pick up some REAL reading material for once or read a REAL news website and educate yourselves!

I say we don’t feed the trolls. The haters from Showbiz Spy have made their way over here, I see. They are a sad bunch of bitter girls.

It’s impossible for Rob to cheat on anyone since according to his own words, he’s single. He’s never said he was in a relationship or part of a couple. Shippers are the one’s who claim it’s true love, not R and K. They could be friends with benefits and even that could be over now, since she’s been away from him for over five weeks.

You have no idea what’s really going one either, you’re just repeating gossip but you like it because it’s what you want to believe. The reality is that Caitlin is 28, not 40, and they did go to the fashion launch party together. Your gossipy make up artist didn’t go to that, did she? She’s not the authority on Rob’s private life. Rob’s said many times he likes older women and his long time girlfriend Nina was 3 years older than him, so he put’s his money where his mouth is.

It’s impossible for Rob to cheat on anyone since according to his own words, he’s single. He’s never said he was in a relationship or part of a couple. Shippers are the one’s who claim it’s true love, not R and K. They could be friends with benefits and even that could be over now, since she’s been away from him for over five weeks.

You have no idea what’s really going one either, you’re just repeating gossip but you like it because it’s what you want to believe. The reality is that Caitlin is 28, not 40, and they did go to the fashion launch party together. Your gossipy make up artist didn’t go to that, did she? She’s not the authority on Rob’s private life. Rob’s said many times he likes older women and his long time girlfriend Nina was 3 years older than him, so he put’s his money where his mouth is.

OH GOD YOU CANT BE REAL CAN YOU………………………YOU CAN TELL THAT HES IN LOVE WITH KRISTEN JUST BY THE WAY HE LOOKS AT HER, THERES ONLY ONE LOOK AND THAT IT…

WE DONT KNOW WHY SHE HASNT BEEN IN TORONTO, SHE JUST SPENT 2 WEEKS WITH HER FAMILY IN NORTH CAROLINA, DID THE SAME THING LAST YEAR….SO PEOPLE JUST WAIT AND SEE, BECAUSE TO ME THIS IS ALL GARBAGE

and even worse not people are listening to random stuff they hear around the internet from sources that are marked as “reliable” like a Kristen-hating website or a Rob-hating website… well, clearly something bad is going to come out of there! Come on! I dont even know why I come here really. I should delete Gossip Cop from my facebook because all they do lately is annoy the crap out of me.

The delusional shippers have been here all along, haven’t they? Should we ignore them, too? Photos of Kristen clinging to Rob don’t prove anything to me accept that she likes to grab at his hand and clutch big wads of his clothing in her palm. That photo of her flipping the bird at him says a lot more to me. Classy, as usual.

THATS FUNNY

People here dont know anything about NinjaStew clearly.

THIS COULD BE TRUE…….U SPEAK TRUTH…….

OH CRAP, ARE YOU ON HERE NOW……..SPILLING YOUR GARBAGE AGAIN, WHAT DID THEY THROW YOU OFF THE OTHER ONE…

GREAT POINT, YOU NAILED IT…

YOUR GOOD…

Rob is an actor and a good one. I could post photos of him looking like that with Emilie deRavin, Holliday Granger, even Reese Witherspoon, lots of other actresses. Photos don’t prove anything. Rob says he’s single. What kind of a good boyfriend or true love won’t even admit he’s dating you? They are friends with benefits, fact reality.

“fact”? Because you know her/him personally and have asked them? Yeah. Uh huh.

RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

ALSO, Libby, i’m confused by you…in a previous article you wrote this:

libby [Moderator] 1 day ago in reply to A RobSten fan 4 Life
“Rob is not dating Kristen Stewart, according to someone on the set they have broken up a few days ago, Rob apparantely received a call from someone, and after that call he was irate, and called Kristen
he had a huge argument with her on the phone, and apparantely he told her he was finished with her, he really loves this girl, but according to the source on the set enough is enough.

The source from the set said she did not know exactly what it was but it was big, I guess it was something that hur Rob really bad….

Also he is not going to Comic Con, instead he is going home to England, he needs a break from
Kristen Stewart, so he has said home he will go…

The source from the set said he is really a nice guy, genuine, and extremely humble….

If she can find out what happened she will let me know, and in turn I will let you know…”

i am so confused…it seems you flip flop every chance you get…one minute you say “OH NO they aren’t together” but than the next you say that they are…

wow, you’ve got some wild imagination there. do you think she would pull that kind of stunt when she’s on stage, national tv even if she want to? cleanse your soul sweetie.

The thing is though, when filming you are pulling a 12 hour day usually. It isnt a normal 9-5 job. When she went to see him for the WFE premiere they were not filming anymore. Then she did her few things in NYC like the Met gala while he did a few things for WFE and they met up in Toronto later. Why sit around on your ass all day alone while he’d filming for 12 hours? If I was her I wouldnt go either. And yes, Rob did go see her while she was filming On The Road but he also was with a bunch of friends to keep him company.

since he was introduced in twilight, his life was stalked by pappz and most of the time, like every night for that matter, he was out with his girlfriend or friends. remember he doesn’t have a place to stay. why would he? he is single and enjoying his life. he stays in a hotel. his far away from his homeland. don’t compare his life to yours. and he is not the only one in hwood out partying. stories about him tend to hype because of the stalking pappz, hounding him and taking his pictures sells. rob and kristen as many reasonable people observed are sensible and more into their career and protective of their relationship. and they were highly respected by the industry of their privacy. im sure you’re old enough to understand that.

She went to Budapest for her birthday and sat around on her ass while he was filming Bel Ami… just to be with him for a few days… and thats clearly halfway across the world. Look, I get what you are saying. I’m not denying they are together, I’m not a Kristen hater, I’m not their PR rep and I DO think that YOUR previous comments hold some value.. all I am saying is that I think the dynamic of K & R’s relationship as changed. It doesn’t mean that it is the end for them its just calmed down.

I remember reading an article where Kristen said something about Rob along the lines of them being thrust into the most chaotic situations possible and it was no wonder they stuck together and were so close. To me, their relationship has been this adrenaline rush because it hasn’t been normal, at all. They are hounded by paps and they can’t do these normal “coupley” things. They are forced to be with each other so naturally they would fall in love and get together, but what happens when there is some semblance of normalcy and the fan fare dies down and they could walk out of their houses with just heads turning when walking down the street instead of hundreds of people following? To me the real test of their relationship isn’t the media circus that surrounds them because they have each other to lean and be eac others crutch. The real test is what happens when all this twilight hooplah dies and they can finally breathe and know not every word or action is being scrutinized. I think the fact that people are so used to them being together that the novelty of robsten did die off a little and now things are settling. This is where their relationship is really tested because now she is really being pushed by PR to be with an be seen with Garrett.. even if its just for promotion.

Sorry for the rant. I hope I got my point across

in your dreams

Because of New Moon and Summit, Kristen would have been at this premiere to support Chris Weitz whether Garret Hedlund would have attended or not. Even though I think that she would have been there to support Chris Weitz in any case, this was a business event not a social event. This group of actors seems to all be friends. Garret was seen on the beach with Andrew Garfield, who happens to be a friend of Rob. Whether Kristen and Rob are couple or not, I haven’t seen any definitive behavior on either side that truly indicates that Kristen or Rob are seeing other people. I knew that as soon as she went to London to present that award, another business obligation, that people were going to start something. They both work in a field that has social obligations, long hours, long separations. I remember in an interview Peter Fach saying that when he films Nurse Jackie he lives in NY he tries to see his family at least every two weeks. Even though her film hasn’t started filming yet, there is pre-production. To me, if they haven’t seen each other, which know one really know for sure because Kristen has demonstrated the ability to fly under the radar, they are just making the best of it. Caitlin is actually working a still photographer on Cosmopolis. I guess that this going to happen constantly, every person of the opposite sex that either Kristen or Rob hangs out with will be a target for rumor.

Sandy…you are spot on girl

I agree that their relationship will be tested but I think the distance will be the problem. I think many Hollywood relationships die because of distance. One is off doing their filming/promoting while the other is at home or what not. Not saying that they couldnt grow apart because Im sure they can. Thats usually what happens in normal relationships so its def possible, wont deny that. I just hate when people think they need to spend every waking moment with each other. I think the only way they WILL survive is to be secure enough in their relationship to not have to see each other every week. And I think they both feel that way personal. Not that Im claiming to know them or how they feel… just my personal opinion. But yeah… Id love to know how the long lasting Hollywood relationships have kept it going. I know there are some out there!

Its nice that this isnt a post about arguing and more just about chatter. thanks for that haha So many people like to jump on other peoples backs and go into attack mode with their ridiculousness.

i’m curious. when was the last time he said he was single in an interview? i remember that in germany, a reporter asked him where his girlfriend was and he replied, “she’s back in LA”. besides that though, i agree with the rest of your post. rob pattinson can do whatever he wants because it’s his life.

Cleanse your eyes and click on the link. It’s a screen capture of Kristen flipping the bird. It’s real, she did it. You explain it.

sweetie, not accept but except…

WOULD YOU PEOPLE JUST STOP ROB AND KRISTEN ARE STILL TOGETHER AND HAPPY JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE AND STOP ALL THIS BULL CRAP AND FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO GOSSIP ABOUT , THIS IS ALL GETTING RIDICULIOUS AND STUPID U ARE ARGUEING OR SOMETHING U DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. ESPECIALLY THEIR RELATIONSHIP ONLY THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN THEY LOVE LIVE NOT ANY ONE ELSE SO STOP.

Thanks so much for revising this post!

Actually he has admitted more that She has. Kristen was really open when younger as she has grown older and wiser she likes to keep all her private life private. Once burned twice shy.

This the “summer Robsten break up rumor mobile” getting started. Last year it was said that Kristen was dumped ,engaged, living with Rob, totally separated from Rob in several different tabloids in the same week. So many times the tabloids have written that they are not together then photos of them at weddings, family gatherings, and at dinner surface months later. This story that Gossip Cop is talking about above, will resurface over and over again.

I remember Kristen saying in an interview that she would never say anything about her private life because people would then starting reading into thing. Like this time with his working on his film and she going to see her family and go on vacation with them, which is totally normal.

GEE– COMMON SENSE………………ITS REFRESHING

YES AND IF YOU REMEMBER SHE ALSO SPENT TWO WEEKS WITH HER FAMILY LAST YEAR AND WHEN THEY WERENT TOGEGHER THE RUMOR MUNGERS STARTED AGAIN….

wtf does a picture of her giving him the finger have anything to do with their relationship? lol I flip my boyfriend off all the time, swear at him and call him an asshole when he is being a little punk. But its all in love & fun. It doesnt mean “Oh my god, our relationship isnt worth shit now! Boo hoo!” We have been together for 4 years, live together and are in a serious relationship. Just because you wouldnt shoot your significant other the finger doesnt mean other people wouldnt!

YOU ARE SO TOTALLY WRONG……………….

YOU ARE RIGHT DO YOU KNOW THAT CC HAD TO SHUT DOWN HER TWITTER ACCOUNT BECAUSE SHE WAS GETTING SUCH REALLY BAD TWEETS ABOUT HER AND ROB, AND OF COURSE NON OF THEM ARE TRUE……U HAVE TO HEAR SOME OF THE NAMES THEY WERE
CALLING HER, REALLY BAD………………….

BECAUSE KRISTEN DID NOT WANT TO COME OUT THEN, THEY ARE SAYING HER COMING OUT WAS AT THE MTV AWARDS, I HAVE NEVER SEEN HER SO AFFECTIONATE WITH ROB….GO TO THIS WEBSITE AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I MEAN http://pattzstewglobal.blogspo

WHEN YOU GET TO THE PAGE SCROLL DOWN TO ALMOST THE BOTTON, ON YOUR RIGHT YOU WILL SEE A CAPTION ADORABLE PHOTOS RP/KS CLICK AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I MEAN
LET ME KNOW WHAT U THINK

I know, its like heaven forbid the girl rest at home for a few weeks before filming again. According to everyone she MUST spend every waking moment of her life with her boyfriend and if she doesnt then omg there MUST be problems between the two. My god, its pathetic.

All I was saying above was that if they ever were to have problems down the road then I think thats what would happen. I dont think its happening NOW at all.

I DONT BELIEVE THAT FOR ONE MOMENT THEY HAVE SPLIT….

I dont think you got my joke…

you know… ‘and they’re off” like what they say at the beginning of a horse race. This topic is always like a horse race.

You don’t know what Rob is doing in his hotel room (and you never will)

You don’t know anything about Kristen’s schedule, work, or SWATH pre-production.

You don’t know if Kristen, Garrett or Taylor were paid to appear at Chris Weitz’s premiere last night.

You don’t know anything about the status of OTR or the buzz about it.

You don’t know anything about indie films.

You’re using rumors to put together a little story that makes you happy. Just like the shippers.

Nonsten fail – again!

sry got info from another site……….stupid of me

ugh… wasn’t this news like two weeks ago. why is gossip cop repeating this shiz again. its kind of getting really annoying now. and btw… i’m not really a big twilight fan, but i do find rob and kstew cute together, i’ve seen their pictures from the first year they’ve worked together till now, and i swear there’s a huge difference between their posture together. even if they deny it, people can easily tell they’re comfortable with each other so this news is just bs.

Well you seemed rather affirmative they did, yesterday. You know, sometimes I wonder if you are what we call an agent provocateur, someone who by their own will or ? write thing to get people talking. I didn’t check, but I seem to remember that before the MTVMA you believed Rob and KS were not an item, then you changed your mind, then yesterday you posted something else and today you’re back to Robstenland. If you have an opinion, one way or the other, don’t you care about being credible?

LIES, ALL HE DOES IS WORK

U ARE SO FUNNY

Remember when Rosee and Delaney and all shippers say that when Rob started hanging around, going to concerts, dinner dates, parties with the same girl (who wasn’t Kristen) they would be ok saying that Rob is not dating Kristen? Well that moment has arrived.
In the last 5 weeks, Rob has been inseparable of Caitlin, they can’t get enough of each others company. They had been together in parties, concerts, dinner, etc and even speding time with Bear in his hotel and her house.
They like each other a lot, and no one is denying the strong bond they share. The MTV’s was a sweet reuion but also a breaking point for Rob. He now knows what he really wants.
Kristen is/was an important person in his life and while Rob is not cheating, they are drifting apart. He’s 25 and on the top of the world, Who can blame him? Kristen was supposed to visit him last week, this was not a well kept secret but she never made it. Wonder why? he wants time. He’s ready to move on. She gets it, there is no drama. Wanna know something else? their relationship while fun, was never that serious for neither of them. A bunch of crazy people made all of you believe something that never was what they were trying to sell to all of you. His next project will be announced soon, unlike shippers “sources” who think his doing the Buckley biopic or having time off in England, I can confirm he will start working in September in the US.
As for Kristen,She’s 21 FFS, she’s a little sad but she gets it. oh yeah and she’s not dating Garrett or anyone else.

I GOT IT, KUDOS

I know that when Rob’s at bars, parties, music events, and restaurants that he’s not sitting alone in his hotel missing Kristen. Between the time he’s spending on the set and going out at night he’s not spending much time in his hotel room at all, just enough to get some sleep.

1. It’s a matter of public record that the SWATH preproduction office is in London and so is the director. The costuming and all that kind of work is being done there. Kristen is not working on SWATH while she’s in L.A. You don’t have to be a genius to know that.

2. Summit is distributing Weitz’s film, it’s a common practice to pay stars to show up at festivals because they generate publicity. Maybe you aren’t aware of this but it’s done all the time.

3. The status of OTR is also a matter of public record. The producer refused to talk about it last night when asked directly (see Celebuzz article), but if she had a release date she wouldn’t be keeping it a secret, would she? Distributors want to get promotion started when they have a film in release, and OTR doesn’t have a deal yet.

4. What does anyone need to know about indie films? Since none of Kristen’s films outside the Twilight series has ever made a profit, that says it all. WTTR and TYH, her last two, cost around $10 million to produce and grossed a bit over $300,000. They couldn’t even reach a half million. Massive bombs. The Runaways only made $3.5 mil. nowhere near its production budget. And not even Adventureland made a profit. Outside of Twilight the ticket buying public has never shown an interest in seeing her films.

5. Shippers like to label things, things they know nothing about. Nonsten is always the big, bad wolf. Guess what? Not a nonsten or a shipper or a sheep.Why don’t you try to stick to the facts? Neither Rob or Kristen has ever said they were dating or a couple or in a relationship. Shippers are the ones who claim true love, they never have.

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Where is your proof that he is hanging out with Caitlin? I have not seen one photo or one tweet about it. I have seen photos of Caitlin hanging out with other guys on set.

You are saying all of this stuff like it is a fact, yet it is only fan fiction from the voices in your head.

I could believe this, since I never thought they were more than FWB anyway. Rob had a similar relationship with Nikki R. from the beginning of Twilight through New Moon filming, it was just a lot easier to keep it on the downlow because he wasn’t that well known and she had a very small part. There are dozens of pictures of them together but everyone wanted to believe they were just friends.

I think he had the same deal with Kristen but because they were Edward and Bella, shippers wanted it to be some epic romance. Rob isn’t the epic romance kind of guy. He says he can’t even remember anyone’s birthday, he doesn’t do romance. And Kristen isn’t a girly girly either, she’s not the frilly romantic type. So they had what they had and it may be over. I think it will be a lot easier for them to get over than the shippers.

There is absolutely no evidence of Caitlin hanging with Rob. Sightings of Rob have been girl free unless you count cast dinners. So far all sightings of Rob or Kristen in couple type situations have been with each other. They have indicated by action, if not words that they are a committed couple. If you choose to not believe it, that is your problem.

Last weekend was that big NXNW music and arts festival, it would have made sense for Kristen to show up for that. Rob went to several events and parties, it was all over twitter, and she wasn’t with him.

That’s why I don’t believe all that ninjastew BS. She hasn’t snuck back up there because Rob went to see Adele in concert, and to several other parties and things and if she had been there, someone would have seen her. Why would she skip all those events and music gigs? She’s supposed to love that stuff, isn’t she? She has been seen around L.A. this month with her family. For whatever reason she hasn’t gone back to Canada and given how invested the shippers are in her life, it’s no surprise that they are wondering if it is all over and done with.

JUST BE PATIENT…..

I would love for you to tell Kristen Stewart what you have just written…..Really, Did you know that she was with her family for the last 2 weeks, she spends 2 weeks every year with them around this time, she did it last year…..

And you have really got to be kidding about rob and cc, seriously, he is so in love with Kristen that every time he breathes he thinks of her….

You are so wrong….

And when they go to parties, its not just him and cc its a group of people and he always leaves by
himself…..you dont know what you are talking about..

Patience is a virtue, just wait…………………..and you will be very happy,,,,,,I hope

YES NO MATTER WHAT THEY WRITE, IF HE WAS OUT WITH CC, TRUST ME THERE WOULD BE PICTURES FROM SOMBODY,,,,,,,,THIS IS JUST CRAP…..BASHING ROBERT…..HE IS NOT GOING OUT WITH ANYONE IN TORONTO,,,,,,,,HE IS IN LOVE WITH KRISTEN…………………….HAS BEEN FOR 3 YEARS……………DONT BELIEVE WHAT THEY WRITE…LIKE I SAID…EVERYBODY JUST WAIT….
YOU WILL BE VERY HAPPY……………………..

U ARE SO RIGHT…………………

I second you. There’s no proof whatsoever Rob’s been with Caitlin. You know it’s total garbage right away when Mandylyt said “Rob has been inseparable of Caitlin, they can’t get enough of each others company.” Yeah, right.

I SAID THAT SHE GOES ON ONE SITE ONLY, ON HER BREAKS OR LUNCH, SHE REALLY DOESNT ANSWER HER PHONE OR TEXTS WHEN SHE IS WORKING, SO SOMETIMES SHE HAS ONE
BLOG SITE THAT SHE POSTS ONLY, I AM IN NEW YORK CITY RIGHT NOW GOING BACK TO
MONTREAL ON FRIDAY MORNING….WHEN I CANT GET HOLD OF HER I CHECK ONE
BLOG THAT SHE GOES ON, IF SHE IS THERE SHE TALKS TO ME….IF SHE IS NOT THEN
I HAVE TO CATCH UP WHEN I GET CLOSER TO HOME…..

SHE IS MY FRIEND IN TORONTO, I LIVE IN MONTREAL, RIGHT NOW I AM VISITING IN NEW YORK CITY…..I DONT KNOW WHT HAPPENED MAYBE I WAS DRUNK, BUT I COMPLETELY APPOLIGZE I REALLY DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT KRISTEN STEWART AND ROBERT PATTINSON
ARE TOGETHER, AND ARE JUST FINE….SORRY SHE WORKS ON THE SET OF ROBS MOVIE..

I thought that I was the only person that saw that picutre. Interesting to say the least, why in the world would she flip him the bird like that if she was in on the joke? Just asking?

Rob has been seen out many times since he’s been in Toronto and we haven’t seen a single photo from any of those times. He went to Adele’s concert, that fashion launch party at Crown Lounge, on June 15th he went out to dinner and it was on twitter but no photos, on the 17th he went to the Vice party and also no photos. Caitlin or anyone could have been with him all those times but no one got pictures so we don’t know, do we?

So when you say there would be pictures, you are wrong. Toronto is not Vancouver or L.A. Rob can go out and night and not be photographed, he’s proved that. And you can stop reassuring everyone. You don’t know what you’re talking about and we’re not children, we don’t need reassuring.

And for Linda, I don’t call two people who had a friends with benefits relationship deciding to end it an “elaborate break up story.” If anything it seems bare bones and practical. Time is the only thing that will tell.

What’s not to understand Kstews being a ninja? Don’t you have better things to do with your life than to speculate on another person’s life?

Didn’t they ask him if they were dating in that Vanity Fair interview and all he would say was that their relationship was traumatic? He had a chance to say they were a couple then and he didn’t, so that’s the same as saying he’s single isn’t it? He doesn’t walk the red carpet at her premieres or walk with her at his, he doesn’t do the things a real boyfriend does. Whatever they have, they’ve always hidden it, haven’t they? Some people still think Brad and Jen are going to get back together, it’s sad how delusional some people are.

When she went to Budapest it was a short trip, not an entire film shoot. There’s a difference between arriving there and leaving after a few days and staying there during 2 or 3 months while your significant other is working 12 hour days. When she arrived there for her birthday, they left for London a few days later. Whether she is “working” or not it is impractical for her to stay in Toronto the entire time. How do you know that she is not “working”, “auditioning”, “in negotiations”, vacationing with her family, basically organizing her life prior to working on her next film and beginning the promotions of the next Twilight saga installment. Let’s face neither she or he are doing anything unusual. It’s outsiders that are reading into things and coming up with their own conclusions. Those that believe they are couple will totally see that they together. Those who don’t believe that they are a couple will deny it even, if they marry and have children. This conflict will never be resolved.

She was teasing him because he tried to grab a popcorn bucket from her.

Yes, we know Rob has been out. Normal people who work and have friends go out, even people who are in committed relationships. But there is ZERO evidence out there that he’s hanging out with Caitlin 24/7 as the person above is implying.

Out of fairness to your post I went to the link you provided. How on earth did you determine that she was giving him the finger? So what if those are his hands. Yes – it looks like she is giving the finger or possibly she was just shifting her hand and it happened. You are serious delusional to think that you can interpret her intentions in that given moment and that she was directing some type of subliminal message to Rob. Seriously? Like someone else said – that sure is funny when you then see video of them backstage holding hands. Hint to you sweetie —- he’s never going to want you and just maybe, he is very happy with his girlfriend. People in MATURE relationships can have friends of the opposite sex and do not need to be tied to each other 24/7. Perhaps – just perhaps – they are secure enough to not need a clingy teenage-angst-ridden relationship like you are probably used to having.

So does Caitlin’s long-term boyfriend know that she is “with” Rob? I think not since its not true. Please – stop spreading the ugly rumors. Leave these poor people alone. You don’t know them – you don’t know what they think – you don’t know what they feel and you certainly should not be spreading such disparaging comments about them.

No – you are wrong – about pretty much everything you wrote. He NEVER had a relationship with NR and certainly not in the timeframe you indicate. Everyone but you knows that.

Just leave them alone.They work hard,get so talked about,I can’t stand all you haters,spiteful, and jealous people.All my prayers go out to the ones who are envious of them.Like i have said before I’,m a mom and a mom-mom-mom,thats what my grandkids call me.My prayers go out to them and their families.May peace and love be with them.Give bear a big hug and kiss for me.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, WHY NOT JUST WAIT……TRUST ME THINGS WILL WORK OUT…
HE IS NOT FOOLING AROUND WITH ANYONE, HES WORKING, HE LOVE KRISTEN….HE WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING TO HURT HER.

YOU DONT HAVE ANY, BECAUSE HE IS WORKING. LIKE GOSSIPCOP HAS JUST WRITTEN
ALL HIE IS DOING IS WORKING HARD IN TORONTO., HE IS NOT OUT GOING WILD, HE IS NOT OUT WITH ANYONE ELSE…….JUST WORK………GIVE THE GUY A BREAK………..THERE IS NOR HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANYTHING WITH CAITLIN…………….ALL RUMORS AND TRASH…THEY SAID LAST NIGHT THAT CC WAS GETTING ALL KINDS OF THREATS ON HER TWITTER, I MEAN THAT JUST NOT RIGHT, SHE DID NOTHING WRONG, ROB IS NOT WITH HER….THEY JUST PICKED A NAME OUT, OH GEE THE DIRECTORS DAUGHTER,,,,,,,REALLY ALL TRASH AND NOTHING BUT TRASH……….

Do we have proof he’s not around or going out with Caitlin? no. We don’t know shit. He’s not a boy, he’s a man. If he’s spending his time with her and she means something to him, he’ll do everything to try to keep it out of the media.

Chelcp ITA but some people HERE is so delusional and goes further implying that Rob has the power to keep the fabricated caitlin scenario from the media if she really mean something to him? lol sorry I didn’t realize he owned CIA and so powerful enough to be capable and prevent anybody from knowing it if it was true. But Rob hasn’t even lifted a finger …why? Because nothing is going on. But anyways the reason why it’s not in the media is because it is not true.

Rob is 25 years old. I hope he gets out often and I hope he’s getting laid often. From what I’ve seen, he’s having a great time here and I hope he comes back. Nobody’s been bugging him, fans on set are minimal and respectful and even the pappz aren’t rabid like they are in other cities.

Way to go, Toronto! ♥

Oh libby, I so don’t trust you. You change your mind all the time and speak like you know the thruth whereas you don’t know s**t, at least not more than the rest of us. And btw, I speak for myself here but cap letters annoy the hell out of me and I don’t intend to read you anymore.

all you people out there..did you ever read his view on Love and relation ship..he is an old fashion guy..who believes in Family and Marriage..so what is your problem..Rob and Kristen are fine

hope they will together forever.. WISH FOR THEM

Kristen hasn’t been To Toronto in 38 days, but she’s had time to fly to London to present Garrett an award, and she had time to go to this LAFF event where rumors say they spent time together at the afterparty.

What kind of a girlfriend spends her free time away when she knows she’s going to be working in England for 6 months? This is the only time they have to spend together and she isn’t in Toronto. And she isn’t in L.A. because she has to work on SWATH preproduction either, that’s all being done in London. She isn’t just taking 2 weeks off, it’s been over 5 weeks since she was in Canada.

http://i.imgur.com/juxXV.jpg
You also notice she wore no jewelry to the film festival. No rings. Doesn’t that tell you something?

Face it, she and Rob have ended their friends with benefits arrangement. They are done. She’s never going back to Toronto, she missed the big musical festival there last weekend and Rob went to several events without her. If they were still together she would have been there. Move on. They are not Edward and Bella and it wasn’t ever true love. It was convenient while it lasted and it’s done. Build a bridge and get over it.

kristen’s not wearing jewelry means nothing. we don’t even really know that that ring was from rob so that part of your argument is null. also, rob never wears jewelry and no one questions his commitment.

I totally agree with you. Something was off at the MTVMA no matter what everybody says.
There was a note on somewhere that R “has fallen out of love. R has told K. She has accepted it.
This person even said that he was “with her” the night before MTV. He purposely had his picture
taken by papz having dinner alone to show the girl in TO he is serious & will push this thru.
But everybody is wrong about Caitlin. Its not her. Its Sarah Gadon.R is doing everything to protect her.
I am sad because I thought rob&kris are different.

i hope to see r/k together soon. miss seeing them together.

i hope to see r/k together soon. miss seeing them together.

Not for anything, but you comment about them here more than I do, so you seem to be pretty invested yourself. js.

Stop replying to yourself. You and your fan fiction are so easy to spot all over the internet.

Garrett Hellund is to smart to pursue Kristen Stewart. You twi fans need to take off your rose colored glasses. No guy besides Robert is going to date Kristen. If you look at her pictures in London you’ll see she’s either a crack head or a heroine junky! Kristen and Robert have become the same person. Kristen loves f bombs and now Robert does to. Neither Robert and Kristen can act. Robert and Kristen are druggies. Robert looks ugly and pasty and so does Kristen. I really hope their career is over and they live in the UK.

The interesting thing about the MTV awards is that Rob was released from filming on Thursday night and the awards took place on Sunday, June 5. He didn’t rush to L.A. to be with Kristen. He stayed in Toronto until Saturday when he finally flew to L.A., barely in time to do the rehearsal.

He had that Friday off and he chose to stay away from her instead of catching the first available flight. She had already been away from Toronto since May 15th, and I thought something was fishy at the time. He doesn’t have to have met someone new in Toronto to be ready to end it with KS. And she seems happier to tag around after Garrett than spend time with Rob, so it seems like they’re both happy. She’s taken her rings off, that seems like a signal to me.

Caitlin C has shut down her Twitter Account and is threating to sue the Web Sites for slander…Apparently she has been getting really bad tweets from Rob and Kris fans….They say it was really bad….Also on twitter they
are saying that is has done nothing wrong, with Rob or anybody….She has never dated him or has gone out
with him….

Twitter people were saying yesterday that the tweets were really reallly bad…

Caitlin C has shut down her Twitter Account and is threating to sue the Web Sites for slander…Apparently she has been getting really bad tweets from Rob and Kris fans….They say it was really bad….Also on twitter they
are saying that is has done nothing wrong, with Rob or anybody….She has never dated him or has gone out
with him….

Twitter people were saying yesterday that the tweets were really reallly bad…

No they were going out with each other and having a good time, but that was then, since that she is engaged to be married, and she seems very happy…At the time she was with Rob she had said that she really loved him, but again that was then….And they had a really good time.

But she moved on with her life, I like her, very pretty girl, talanted…well spoken…

Now rob is with kris and everybody is happy dont you agree.

Really quite said dont you think……

i might invest but i’m not the one continuing to force people to believe that they could be or could not be together…it’s pointless to try to persuade people…so why bother to put so much effort into something that you know people wouldn’t be persuaded in? also, majority of the people on here who WANT them together only do because of the characters they play…they can say whatever they want to say “No, it’s not because of the characters” but people DO that…

i might invest but i’m not the one continuing to force people to believe that they could be or could not be together…it’s pointless to try to persuade people…so why bother to put so much effort into something that you know people wouldn’t be persuaded in? also, majority of the people on here who WANT them together only do because of the characters they play…they can say whatever they want to say “No, it’s not because of the characters” but people DO that…

You are really sad, instead of being happy for Rob and Kris you all slander him…..do you have facts of course not and why cant he go out he goes out with friends, and goes home alone…He is in love with Kristen stewart and she knows it and also knows that all of these stories are really horrible…

Do you people really want them to break up, I for one do not she is really sincerely happy when she
is with him and he with her, so leave them alone…..hes a good guy…and he loves Kristen Stewart
he would never do anything to hurt her ever……and I beleive she completely trusts him, and why
not……

You are really sad, instead of being happy for Rob and Kris you all slander him…..do you have facts of course not and why cant he go out he goes out with friends, and goes home alone…He is in love with Kristen stewart and she knows it and also knows that all of these stories are really horrible…

Do you people really want them to break up, I for one do not she is really sincerely happy when she
is with him and he with her, so leave them alone…..hes a good guy…and he loves Kristen Stewart
he would never do anything to hurt her ever……and I beleive she completely trusts him, and why
not……

they WERE saying horrible things to her…I follow her on twitter and it was getting down right nasty to the point where threats were happening

dont you really get tired of all the crap being said about Rob & Kris…

Did you know that Caitlin C shut down her twitter account yesterday, because she was getting
threating (dont know if spelling is correct) tweets..They said yesterday on twitter that they were
really really bad, and she is threatning so sue the web sites for slander….She said she has
done nothing wrong, and has never ever gone out with R Pattz…

She also said she did not know where all of this is coming from but will find out….

The twitter website yesterday I was reading the tweets said the tweets were so bad, and really
very cruel…..

How old are you libby? You come across as someone very young who hasn’t had a lot of experience with men. Shippers like to believe Rob and Kris are something special but he had a very similar relationship with Nikki, for over a year. They managed to keep it very quiet, although you can look at those pictures and see how close they were. FWB, same as what he’s had with Kris.

He never admitted he was dating Nikki, he doesn’t admit he dated Kristen. Nikki is engaged and seems very happy, which proves you can be FWB with Rob and go on to find true love. And no, I don’t agree that Rob is with Kris. She hasn’t been in Toronto with him for almost 6 weeks. She’s had time to fly to London to present Garrett with a fashion award and to attend LAFF last night and hang out at the afterparty with Garrett.

She chooses to spend her free time in L.A., not with Rob, and it’s not just a 2 week vacation, it’s been almost 6 weeks.She took off her rings. She’s looking very single to me. If she never goes back to Canada and flies off to work in London will you finally believe she’s single?

How old are you libby? You come across as someone very young who hasn’t had a lot of experience with men. Shippers like to believe Rob and Kris are something special but he had a very similar relationship with Nikki, for over a year. They managed to keep it very quiet, although you can look at those pictures and see how close they were. FWB, same as what he’s had with Kris.

He never admitted he was dating Nikki, he doesn’t admit he dated Kristen. Nikki is engaged and seems very happy, which proves you can be FWB with Rob and go on to find true love. And no, I don’t agree that Rob is with Kris. She hasn’t been in Toronto with him for almost 6 weeks. She’s had time to fly to London to present Garrett with a fashion award and to attend LAFF last night and hang out at the afterparty with Garrett.

She chooses to spend her free time in L.A., not with Rob, and it’s not just a 2 week vacation, it’s been almost 6 weeks.She took off her rings. She’s looking very single to me. If she never goes back to Canada and flies off to work in London will you finally believe she’s single?

Yes i read that yesterday, I thought it was terrible,just what they were saying was wrong…..

Sara G has a boyfriend his name is Robert, but its not Robert Pattinson.,

I don’t believe the threats come from Rob’s fans, I believe they come from shippers who are Kristen fans. Far more shippers seem to be in the KStew camp and they’re the ones who are threatened whenever Rob is linked with another woman. Rob’s fans don’t care who he’s dating. KStew fans project themselves onto her and they’re offended to think that Rob might be with someone else.

in a sense, she should have known since we are talking ROBERT PATTINSON here….fans are willing to do absolutely ANYTHING to make sure he’s with who they THINK he should be with and vice versa on Kristen Stewart fans

I agree that so many young girls can’t seem to tell the difference between Bella and Kristen and Rob and Edward. They want to believe in some epic romance instead of just friends who work together and hook up. But they really put their faith in the wrong people. R and K won’t admit they’re anything more than friends, they won’t say they’re dating, they obviously don’t want people all up in their business.

Zac and Vanessa were a real couple, they didn’t hide anything and even they broke up. It happens, not everything is forever. People should concentrate on their own relationships and leave actors alone.

People need to flag sherry88 as inappropriate. It’s hate speech and that’s unacceptable.

THIS SO STUPID why is she upset solution ROBERT SHOULD BRING kristen TO Toronto and show afection for her right if he is no with CAITLIN WILL BE OK .

THIS SO STUPID why is she upset solution ROBERT SHOULD BRING kristen TO Toronto and show afection for her right if he is no with CAITLIN WILL BE OK .

Rob has never worn jewelry, he doesn’t even wear a watch. He has a shark’s tooth necklace he got at a photo shoot once be he doesn’t wear it a lot. But Kristen always wears rings, a silver thumb ring and usually one or two other rings at the same time, and a watch. I’ve never seen her go out without any jewelry in the past 3 years. Especially at an event where she knew she was going to be photographed, so it is significant whether you want to admit it or not.

Caitlin Cronenberg is a professional photographer who is working on the set of the film. It’s her job to release photos of the actors. She’s doing her job. She never tweeted about Kristen. For the past 38 days Kristen hasn’t even been in Toronto, and that’s been by her choice. She’s free to go anywhere she wants.

KStew’s crazy fans are the ones freaking out over nothing. Stop blaming Caitlin for Kristen’s choices.

The expression on her face does not indicate she was “teasing” him at all. If she was, she would have been laughing or at least smiling, don’t you think?

The expression on her face does not indicate she was “teasing” him at all. If she was, she would have been laughing or at least smiling, don’t you think?

I have to say that on his fan sites which are constantly showing pictures and/or videos taken by his most obsessive fans and other web sites that constantly show pictures of them working on the film, I would say the pappz in Toronto are just as obnoxious as they are anywhere else in the world when it comes to Rob or Kristen or anything at all to do with them together or not, who are you kidding? Which brings me to another thing that I have heard Reese say in interviews regarding Rob, that he gets around with military precision and that she was amazed at the way he deals with the media when he wants to do anything at all without being detected. When they asked her to give an example of what she meant, she refused to divulge any of his tactics for the obvious reasons. I am sure that if he wants to keep something secret, he can manage just fine.

The same question can be asked of you as apparently you do the very same.

Oh man…To read all this comments above made me very sad :( It´s not our business what these two people are doing or if they dating or not.. I mean, I wish they still happy togehther, because that what R&K show is intend LOVE for me!!!I´ve never seen that a guy looks to a girl like rob looks to Kristen. It´s absolutely special..But also, he can go out with friends without his girl..I go out with my friends and my husband goes out with his friends..This means nothing..I think, R&K are so good in Ninja travelling that she was still in toronto the last week. We know nothing…All I see is, they look happy both, thats all what counts to me..(Sorry about my english – I´m german)

great…traffic is going to be a bitch…i love rob but damn…the traffic of swarming females is going to mess up how i get to school depending on where filming will take place in nyc

i WAS WONDER HOW IS POSSIBLE THAT CAITLIN CRONENBER IS GOING TO HAVE A BOOK COMING OUT SOON ABOUT BREAK UPS IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THIS IS PUBLICITY FOR THAT BOOK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT .I DON’T CARE WHO DATE WHO IS JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT SOME BODY IS USING THE MEDIA FOR SALE OF SOMETHING .AND KRISTEN AND ROBERT IS JUST IN HE MIDDLE OF IT.

You know that is possible, using Rob would be a great way to get exposure….But he and Kristen are just fine and you will be seeing them together very soon.

You are so wrong , he got into LA on Saturday mid morning, and spent Sat and Sunday nights with Kristen…..

No she didn’t.
http://twitter.com/#!/caitcronenberg

O my gosh libby you are trouble you post a comment on the Robert and Jeff article in gossip cop article saying that Kristen sleep with Garret and now tou saying they are fine stop been a trouble maker.

Speak for yourself.

Sara Gadon’s boyfriend is an attorney, and she has been going out with him for a couple of years, they have done a bio on her and it will tell you right there, she is in a committed relationship…

Yes we do know that Kristen has not snuck into Canada, if we have a brain. Rob has been to 2 music gigs, 2 or 3 parties, and seen in restaurants a couple of times. Kristen was never with him. If she had been there, someone would have seen her at one of these places. Is he going to go to an Adele concert and leave her sitting alone in the hotel? Be logical, please. He’s been seen all over town and she’s not with him.

She’s 21, she has plenty of money to fly to Toronto whenever she wants. Instead, she’s gone to London to be at an event with Garrett and to go out to a nightclub with him. She had time to go to that film festival in L.A. the other night, where he was, too. Look at where her priorities lie. Being with Rob is not a priority with her or she would be there. I can’t buy the excuse that she’s working in L.A. She can have a meeting or whatever and still fly to Toronto for a weekend and she hasn’t done that in six weeks. Buy a vowel, people, you can solve this.

And you can change your name libby, but we still know it’s you. Stop replying, you admit you don’t know anything.

one observation with Robert and Kristen I notice how him bring his friends everywhere and his family is around a lot never a moment alone with her or make time just for he must be very difficult for Kristen she has been cool all the time and I bet she got friends but they are no with her and Robert all the time and her family is very private Robert’s family even walk the red carpet so maybe was too much for Kristen and I know many fans will jump me for this.But look to me that Robert’s friends are parasites and drinking pals .

Did you ever think that maybe just maybe he was tired and need some sleep. Give the guy a break

You must really have hatred in your soul for him, you dont even know him, you take what you read off of every gossip site, and then you put it togegher in your mind, unfortunately it comes out wrong..
Were you there with him..,you dont know what kind of plans they had or have. Just leav them alone
and when it comes to Kristen’s ring, if you noticed she had no rings on at all that night, nothing.

No rings that night? Really? Either you didn’t watch it or you’re blind. Either way, it just shows you don’t know what you’re talking about.

http://www.robsessedpattinson.com/search?q=mtv+movie+awards

When all of this dissolves, you are going to feel so stupid, these two are happy, be happy for them
If you have ever followed them, you will know that Kristen takes a couple of weeks this time of the
year and spends it with her family, I know its a couple of weeks 2 or 3….When Rob was doing Remember Me, he was in New York, and she was in LA that lasted 5 weeks without them seeing each other, until finally they got together….

1. Why is everyone writing in caps? I’m pretty sure everyone can read..
and
2. what the hell is a shipper?!

No one even knows if Rob and Kristen are really dating.

I speak for no other.

How is everybody on this fine Saturday morning.

oooooh

“if we had a brain” made me sing to the song from Wizard of Oz..”If only I had a brain” lmao

somebody in gossip cop commented that delaney will be posting yesterday/today.
the aim is to keep robsten shippers happy. and she did her post already.
even rosesee know that there is a problem when she wrote that rob describes her feelings for kristen
AT ONE TIME this is about the song he supposedly wrote. take note:at one time.
it means its over for pattz. he is finished with kristen. does not need her anymore.his name is
out there already, he was doing the same thing with nikki reed before he got together with K.
just that nobody wants to admit it bec. of the prob. it will create for bd.
believe me they will be acting sweet and loving during promo but he is long over this romance.

Man you can say that again!

Thats 100% correct, I just dont understand why people dont watch the video of them supporting Chris and his new film. In the interview Chris said that Rob would have come, but that he was busy shooting

How do you know that Kris did not get in until Sat.,what are you in her pocket or something, you dont know anything about this couple, the dynamics of there relationship, I know that from what I see when he looks at her and she at him, that is nothing but pure love, and if you cannot see that, then maybe you had
better take a look at your own life…..

I personally do not believe a word of it, there is not Caitlin, there is nobody, just this poor guy working and maybe going out for some beer to unwind. He is is love with Kristen, and you will see very shortly that
everything on this site is a lie..

I personally do not believe a word of it, there is not Caitlin, there is nobody, just this poor guy working and maybe going out for some beer to unwind. He is is love with Kristen, and you will see very shortly that
everything on this site is a lie..

in 2 years when all Twilight is finished and “Robsten” “split” remember, all of you, to come back to this page right here and re-read your comments.. you will understand then how stupid you all are!

Maybe just maybe this is how they planned it, They dont live in the same world as we do, they live a different kind of life, I know that Rob is in love with Kristen, and she with him, I say just be patient.
All good things come to those who wait……..

Actually, in an interview that McDougal gave in Germany, he was asked about this particular song. He actually wrote the song, Rob’s fans gave the credit to Rob for having written it for Kristen. There is video out there of him giving this interview, I think if you look at any number of Rob’s fan sites, this video will be out there. You can look for it, if I find it I will post a link to it.

She has a much bigger fan base than you realize.

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well, yes he has reasons, which doesn’t mean he actually IS jealous. after all, she dumped her boyfriend to be with him after they met in Twilight, so…

If she has such a big fanbase why are all her indie films bombs? Her fanbase doesn’t support her films do they? They aren’t even popular on DVD and they haven’t been sold to cable, they were such big bombs, not even Cinemax wants to show them.

The Twilight films aren’t popular because of Kristen, she’s just the placeholder for all the girls who which they were Bella. Those movies are popular because of Rob and Taylor.

And she most certainly does go to clubs, she was photographed coming out of the Groucho Club in London with Garrett a couple of weeks ago, she went to a bunch of clubs when they filmed Eclipse in Vancouver and she’s been to the Troubador and Hotel Cafe in L.A., to name just two.

That’s where you’re wrong, krissy, they live in exactly the same world we do. They’re human beings, not space aliens. Movie stars are just people, they eat, sleep and work just like everyone else. And planes fly back and forth all day, if Kristen wanted to be in Toronto she would be.

You can’t speak for how either of them feel, they’ve never commented on it, other than Rob saying their their relationship was traumatic. Pictures don’t mean anything but spending 6 weeks apart when you have the ability to fly to London at the drop of a hat speaks volumes.

Seriously??? That is the best you can come up with – the two of them hanging out three years ago? Sounds like someone is living in a bit of a time warp – or an alternate reality. Nobody is questioning that they probably did hang out and maybe even hooked up……..but that was it. There was no serious “relationship” – pretty obvious to everyone. I doubt they are even less about what you think as you are obviously trying to turn their friendship into much more than it ever was.

Kristen S and Garrett H seen together at the afterparty for Chris W premier. KS arrived first and then
GH and made a beeline for Kristen, they hung out together, onlookers have said that GH was hanging all over Kristen and she was loving it.. Garrett left first and then Kristen left about 10 mins later to avoid the papps..But they left in the same car, reported he was waiting outside for her.

UPDATE:
Kristen & Garrett seen at the Chateau Marmont in LA, after the party on the 22 June, According to staff and onlookers, Kristen went up to room first and then 15 mins later Garrett arrived. They arrived about
1:30 and left about 5:30 or 6:00. Garrett went out the back door and Kristen followed a little while
latter, I guess to avoid the papps..

According to staff this is the second time Kristen and Garrett have booked a room at the hotel in
two weeks, always coming in staying a couple of hours and leaving the same.

So I guess its safe to say what everyone else is saying that Rob & Kristen are no longer together and
that everyone thought Rob was cheating, funny isnt it, it was her all along, and we thought Garrett
was Rob’s friend, I wonder if he knows about this??

No, I said they were close and had a friends with benefits deal, the same as Rob has with Kris. Only Rob wrote a song with Nikki and she hung out with his family and friends a lot. They kept it private and those pictures are only a few, there are many more. You try to ignore them, but she’s got her hand on him in a way that we haven’t seen anyone else do. He knows the picture is being taken, he’s looking right into the camera.

This weekend is almost over and Rob’s back at work but Kristen didn’t go to Toronto and he didn’t go to L.A. So another opportunity to see each other and they passed it up. Sounds like they’re over to me. She isn’t working on the weekend, is she?

from my understanding, Rob will be busy working for the first 2 weeks of July in NYC

I looked at that post and saw all the pictures, it looks like Rob and Nikki were more than just cast mates. Wo cares if it went on for a year or not? He never said they were a couple, just like he’s never said he and Kristen are a couple. As long as he never talks about it then he doesn’t have to answer any messy questions when it’s over, which it looks like it is.

Hollywood Life it running stories about how Kristen went to the LA film festival after party with Garrett, not wearing a ring that was supposed to have been a gift from Rob. Another weekend has gone by and she didn’t go visit him and he didn’t fly to LA. He was seen out in Toronto last night by more than one person. They’re not going to come out and make an announcement that it’s over, they never admitted they had anything going on to begin with. People need to move on, who cares who either one of them is dating?

Garrett is no friend of Rob’s. They’ve never worked together and never met until Kristen introduced them on the set of OTR. They haven’t seen each other since, Rob never hung out with Garrett.

Not everyone thought Rob was cheating either. He’s been working, Kristen is the one who’s been clubbing with Garrett in London and LA. She took her ring off before meeting up with Garrett on the 22nd. Looks like she’s trying to say she’s single.

robert and kristen are very fine!!

Nope…he’s still here in Toronto until July 15.

LOL! Good lord! That story about Chateau Marmont….is tooooooooo laughable! It’s just as bad as the one with Caitlin! Who wrote this fanfiction? Dude they have to write an genuine article on this hysterical accusation! OH but they won’t right cause all these fanfiction never goes beyond the gossip boards cause ….lets face it……it’s not the truth! There’s nothing. And you guys are falling for this falsehood. If it was true the news would have blown all the sites to smithereens. But nothing, not a peep, crickets chirping. A source….LOL! Oh brother another source? lol! s Oh another thing..oh no I wont tell you if you guys can’t figure what’s wrong with the lying accusation on that post. It’s too easy, I won’t even give you all the slightest clue that can help you distinguish that is one big fat lie.

this sound like ANOTHER lie….like WTF kristen seems like the type of girl that would just call rob and ask him what is going on and talk it out….plus they are COSTARS just like they pointed out so they are probably just hanging out to PROMOTE the movie…and i DOUBT that kristen would be so childish and try to ‘get back’ at rob….and she has always said she was shy and wasn’t really comfortable being in the public eye because she didn’t get why everyone cared about her life..so doesn’t it make sense for her NOT to be looking for ATTENTION?!?

Read my post above that will explain everything:

how do see how shes leaving nasty comments? she’s just saying what she thinks is going on

That Chateau Marmot rumor about Rob being there was proven fake and started by shippers who can’t face reality. He never left Toronto, he was spotted there on Saturday by two independent sources and he was also seen in Toronto on Sunday. The fake tweet about Rob said he was at the CM with Kellan and Zac Effron, and none of them were there. Fake tweets like that are fairly easy to disprove so stop spreading lies.

Rob stayed in Toronto this weekend and Kristen stayed in LA. He didn’t have to go there to break anything off because he did that already.

No, she’s repeating fake twitter sightings and making stuff up entirely. She reads something on a shipper blog and comes over her and repeats it, regardless of the fact that it’s all made up. She has no credibility, she’s lying.

You are FOS. Go home and take your medication psycho!

She must be in Roberts behind since she knows a lot or maybe she is the one who is going out with him get a life.

I felt like they really broke up after the MTV AWARDS party.I am glad, he was just using her. she will be alot better off

Seriously? Your last statement is ludicrous.

Shipper is a made-up word. People who see R&K in a relationship are not shippers – they are just observing what is going on – from what can be seen via the press. A shipper would be someone who said “Garrett and Kristen stood next to each other……..they must be in a relationship”. Its a word used by women who think that if Rob would just notice them…….just maybe he would realize that they are the one. LOL.

Thanks for the confirmation that they are currently in a relationship. hahaha.

Seriously Rob’s never said he’s part of a couple. He’s never acted like a real boyfriend, and he’s called their relationship traumatic. He was not talking about fans, he was talking about Kristen. In that VF interview he also said he was lonely and he later said that’s why he adopted a dog. It’s his dog, and he’s got it with him in Toronto. He was on the set with Kristen for 8 months and he felt lonely and traumatized. Those are his own words. Doesn’t sound like true love to me and since she’s been avoiding Toronto it does look like whatever they had is over.

Have you ever thought of writing fiction? You are pretty good at it. Amazing how you — who I assume is just some anonymous poster – has access to so much very specific information —– that nobody else in the press knows. Huh………that’s pretty cool. Yeah for you.

Wrong! He and Kristen were in Santa Barbara last July 4th weekend. A fan met them there. She has a photo of her and Rob together that Kristen took.

That said, I doubt they will go there this year, he will probably be filming over the weekend.

Quel est ton nom, puisque tu sembles si bien le connaitre. Sorry, I’ M not american; no speak English.

it like the late graet 6packacoors say he not get jellious of her he have the jellosy for hims. you see he have the gayness deseace an he have the lust for the boys not the girls so he not cababple of the emicion jellosy for her

but, since when is lying and nasty considered the same thing?

oh thats good. i like the guy, but the chaos that follows him…it’s smh

can we all just agree that we wont ever know the truth behind this at all?…pictures can say 1000 words but i don’t take pictures into consideration at all…i prefer to hear it from their mouths and i know i wont…so like i’ve said previously, if they are together, good luck! if not, enjoy being single

http://www.x17online.com/celebrities/kristen_stewart/kristen_stewart_does_a_wardrobe_change_yoga_studio_twilight_062811.php

It’s sad that Kristen is so desperate for attention that she calls the paps before she goes to the gym. This isn’t a restaurant or hotel where the paps hang around because they know stars with be there. Someone had to tip them off, it’s the middle of the day, no one else is around. She wanted to get her picture taken, she’s not running away from them the way she used to do.

Looks like she wants people to know she’s still in LA. Now that she’s signed on for another big budget film it’s gone to her head and she’s playing the Hollywood game by going to events like the Met Ball and cooperating with the paps. Didn’t take long for her to give up her indie cred and go Hollywood.

Actually, Rob and Garrett hung out a little bit at the Golden Globes.

Yanno what??? I don’t care about ANY of this because 2 hours ago, I MET ROB PATTINSON! And he’s the nicest, sweetest guy in the world. He deserves a nice life!

Yes but from a distance when we were watching the shoot. We met him after he cleaned up and changed into his civvies. He never meets fans in costume…at least, not in Cosmopolis.

Rob and Caitlin Cronenberg

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He really is! Still fangirling and floating and totally useless at work!!

are you serious? Show me a real photo of Rob & Caitlin doing somethng!!!! I have seen Rob in pics with fans that were more damaging. Onset pics, ARE FOR REAL?

I never said they were doing anything. Just posting pics. Calm your tits.

@fishyone I don’t know them in person so I can confirm anything lol.. just saying my opinion: it’s all PR.. :( after some time all the fans will see how much they played us! I say it out loud.. I was also stupid enough to believe they are truly in love and all that crap.. not anymore.. so again see ya in 2 years ;)

LMAO..
oh by the way the links don’t work for me.. can you re-post them please? if you can thanks!

Can you read? Krissy said they had spent the past 3 years in SB on the 4th. Rob was in NY in 2009, so he wasn’t in SB. Last year is one year, not three. And they won’t be together this year for many reasons. He’s filming and she’s too busy with her own life to bother to get her ass up to Canada to visit him.

No lame excuses can explain a 6 week absence. Their friends with benefits deal is over.

Shia Labeouf admitted in a big interview yesterday that he hooked up with Megan Fox on set of T2 and said it happened all the time when actors were trapped on location together. He’s telling the truth. That’s what happened with Rob and Kris. They were trapped in Vancouver for months and hooks up happen. Rob had hooked up with Nikki Reed the previous year on Twilight. He’s just good at keeping his mouth shut and then he never has to answer any ugly questions when it’s over, which it is. Time will tell.

It’s funny. Here Rob is talking to Caitlin and the haters claim they’re having an affair, but when Rob’s holding hands with Kristen it’s labeled “PR” or they’re “just friends.”

Same here. I now accept this is all PR.
After BD fans will never see them together.
But there is nothing to explain because they never said
they were ever in love.
In the end all TW and robsten fans will be called cr*zy.
Pattz & Stew have all played us for a fool.
And Pattz has once said he lies in interviews, so his cr*p
about loyalty,one-woman man,family, kids are all FOS.

I read somewhere a while back that he did not even realize that Nikki gave his music to Hardwicke until Hardwicke approached him and told him that she scheduled studio time so he could record it for the soundtrack and he was genuinely suprised. It seems to me that for Nikki to get to burn a CD of his music off of his personal computer, she had to be privvy to his personal things that he trusted her with for her to get the CD burned without his knowledge. Then again, if you follow anything long enough, you know that the story changes each time it is spoken of, I just have a good memory for the things the I read or the things I have heard him say in interviews that down the road he changes what he said in earlier interviews. So, I take it all with a grain of salt.

he wont never be jellous of no boys when he have the gayness illness so hard. jus saying

Rob’s an actor. His interviews reflect whatever part he’s playing at the time. When he’s playing a husband and father, he says he thinks it would be nice to be married and have a child. When he’s playing a single guy with girl problems he says he’s not romantic and not ready to settle down. He’s allowed to change his mind and say whatever he wants, he’s not running for office.

I don’t think most of it was PR, I think they were friends with benefits and their crazy fans created a romantic fantasy to bring some excitement to their own lives. Rob and Kris never said they were a couple or in any kind of a relationship, just friends.

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stop putting your shit everywhere..

There is an audio of an interview he did just this passed May while promoting Water for Elephants in Spain and they asked him if he has ever had to “hide” a relationship, and his answer was no, he has never done that then added that if you have to hide a relationship, it really isn’t much of a relationship. The audio is on his fansites, anyone can check it out. I listened to it at Robsessed.com.

to write such slander is close to pointing a gun at their heads..do you not feel ashamed …..

It will be sooner rather than later when all hell will break lose.
Pattz is still in TO suppose to be filming despite the Canadian holidays.
Stew is still in LA doing her yoga despite the coming July 4 weekend.
Delaney,Rose are both missing in action due to the holidays.
When fans stop deluding themselves that they are still together,
everybody will be happy. BD will flop. Pattz will be with Caitlin and
Stew will go back to MA.

If this is a false rumour, why is it rated at 1?

And why do you care? You seem pretty obsessed with their relationship. He did not say their relationship was traumatic, that is just your interpretation of what he said. Where did Rob say he was lonely? That was the reporters words, not Rob’s. Rob was talking about how his friends don’t want to be his entourage and will only come visit him when he is in cool cities, so that’s why he got a dog so he could be his entourage. Do you not understand Rob’s humor?”

Funny you know the exact date of when you assume Kristen was last in Toronto. Why do you care so much about her schedule? You don’t know this for a fact. You don’t know if she has had free time or not. She could have been in Toronto two weeks ago and it is rumored she is there now.

You have no proof that their “co-star relationship” is over, that is only what you wish. And sorry, but FWB’s do not live together when in the same city, they do not travel halfway around the world to see each other for birthdays and holidays.

If they break up someday, then they break up. There is no proof of that at this point. There is tons of proof though that they are a couple.

Get your head out of your shipper fantasies. Kristen has time to fly to London to hang out with Garrett Hedlund. She has time to attend film festivals and hang out with him in LA. She doesn’t have time for a short flight to Toronto? That doesn’t make sense.

And they don’t Skype. Rob’s friends tease him because he refuses to use Skype. He doesn’t have Twitter, or FB or anything, he rejects all that. He’s complained about this email being hacked, he’s not going to Skype and get that hacked, too.

It’s pathetic that you have to make up fake excuses like this instead of accepting the truth. They’re both perfectly happy with their 6 weeks away from each other. She’s happier than I’ve ever seen her in the past 2 weeks and he’s going out and having a good time with his friends in Toronto. What difference does it make to you, anyway?

LMAO!!!! Going to London for The Glamour UK awards and a photoshoot is work. Going to Budapest for her birthday was not work, going to IOW for New Years was not work.

They were asking him if his relationship was like Edward and Bella’s. His first response was “Yes” then “no, not really” and then he babbled onto the traumatic stuff but didn’t specifically say what was traumatic about it. Maybe it’s answering those questions that’s traumatic for him. He sure doesn’t’ look traumatized around her. It’s so funny what you nonsten cling to. We have the same argument every month.

How do you know for a fact she is not in Toronto this weekend? Where is your proof? “Shippers” did not do the fake tweets about Rob at the CM. That person was not a shipper or a nonsten. The nonsten’s were the ones who really wanted it to be true since the woman said Kristen was not there. So why would a “shipper” make that up?

You do know that Kristen is busy with pre-production with SWATH now, that premiere was in the middle of the week. She could have just come back from Toronto from seeing Rob. You don’t know for a fact that she didn’t. You don’t have her schedule and you don’t know when she has time or not to go to Toronto.

You are just as invested in their relationship as you accuse me of being. You are just from a different angle. I know they are together, but you just want to prove over and over again that they aren’t, so you cling to little things like “traumatic” and “lonely” yet I am still waiting for the article where Rob actually said in quotes he is lonely. Why does it matter to you so much that you want them not to be in a relationship? You have to know they are, but you make up excuses to yourself every day to convince yourself that they aren’t together. Yes, you are invested in this. Otherwise you just wouldn’t care and you wouldn’t be posting here.

I mean me!!! I was a useless waste of space at work the next day. I would just remember the night before and relive it over and over and over! I still do……..oh, those eyes!!! They pierce your soul!!!

haha

This is why Rob & kristen dont talk about their relationship. Cause their Crazy fans. http://youtu.be/qkAMaAgD1ys & http://youtu.be/4Dfxz7rHWr0

Oh, I see. Sometimes I’m glad I’ve never seen him. And if he’ll ever come to RF I doubt I’d like to meet him. Or maybe not… I don’t know.

it dont matter they brake up or not, they not have trdidtional love they jus have the lust noway it not matter

I do have the article in front of me. When you take it out of context to the entire paragraph, like some people chose to do, it is easy to see how they can claim he never said the relationship was “traumatic” but what they leave out is the entire paragraph preceding and the paragraphs that follow, he was asked if his on screen love mirrors his relationship in real life and he got uncomfortable with the question, which the author states clearly and his response is “Yes. Um. No, not really.” and continued to say, “It’s pretty hard to. . .It’s just very traumatic.” he did not just say it is traumatic, he said, “it is very traumatic”. Then she asked, “I mean, are you very intense about each other?” and his response was to say, “oh, I don’t know” then trailed off into his schpeel abut how he thinks that she was cool even before he met her which obviously was his way of getting her off the line of questioning that she was going for. All this debate on whether or not he did say the relationship was traumatic, read the article, he does say it that “it is very traumatic”. Whether you comprehend it the way that suits your personal views or take it for its face value is totally an individual thing, but to say he never said it is just wrong. He did say that it was very traumatic. What is so hard about accepting those words coming from his mouth during an interview that he gave with VF? He is not a moron by a long shot, I think that he knew what he was saying when he was saying it just as much as he did not want to be talking about things that are none of anyone else’s business but his own.

He just recently said in a press conference in Barcelona when asked if he has ever had to hide a relationship, his response was no he has never done that and then commented that if you have to hide a relationship, it is not much of a relationship. Have a field day with that. The audio is out there on his fan sites for anyone to listen to what he says. I guess there will still be some people that claim he never said that either. The point still remains is that it does not matter what he says in articles or to the press, he has had his words twisted and taken out of context so many times over the years that he is probably just busting everyone’s chops and the media, press and fans can believe what they want to believe. At the end of the day, he knows what the status of his relationship is and so does Kristen and oops, they are not talking are they?

just because people say they are isnt the truth…i prefer to hear it out of their own mouths..

that’s my point though. we all know that they won’t talk about it…so why continue to have a debate on them…it’s all hear say…so everyone needs to realize that

Pics of Kristen At LAX Today July 4th http://j.mp/kUjJGB. The guy behind Kristen wears Air Canada neck strap!!!

Yeah. And everybody is satisfied, I guess.

@jae

I’m pretty sure when he said “I’ve never had to hide a relationship”, he meant from his family/friends, not the press. If it’s true that he’s never hid a relationship from the press, that would mean he’s been single for the past four years. He’s never publicly admitted to having a relationship in all the years that he’s been in the media spotlight. I can’t be the only one who thinks it’s highly unlikely that the most lusted after Hollywood star hasn’t had a girlfriend in four years, unless he’s secretly asexual or something. I don’t think Rob has any issue hiding a relationship from the paparazzi, as they have no business knowing anyway. Both Rob and Kristen have said they wouldn’t cheapen or sell a relationship by talking about it with the media. But, hiding it from your friends and family is a whole other issue altogether, and can be damaging to a relationship. I’m fairly sure that’s what Rob meant.

well…i’m glad she goes through the body searches like us, non celeb people…

I think the 1% is in the fact that Kristen Stewart was with Garrett Hedlund in England. The other 99% is purely speculation from someone that has no real personal knowledge of either Garrett Hedlund or Kristen Stewart and just because they are pictured together does not indicate that there is anything more involved.

@Guest: I don’t recall his mentioning his family and friends nor do I presume to know what he “means” when he makes the statements he makes. I merely pointed out that there is audio of an interview/press conference where he did say he has never had to hide a relationship, and that if you have to hide a relationship, it is not much of a relationship. I should think that he would not have to (nor would he) hide anything from his family or his real friends at all. The media, press and fans are neither his family or his real friends are they? I, like you, doubt sincerely that a “Hollywood Star” would have a problem hooking up with someone, that does not necessarily mean that said someone automatically has to be deemed “his girlfriend or her boyfriend” either. Do I think that he is doing without? Hell no. You do not necessarily have to be in love with someone to engage, you just have to to have two consenting adults. The key word here would be adults.

O-Ow… Isn’t he in Toronto? Yeah, it’s seems, he is not. I’m curious, what is he doing in Seattle?

a coarse i be true. you know weller then i they all have the gayness or bi-polar (what be the same no way sickness and jus will have the intercoarsed with any peoples they want boy or girl it not mater to thems an inditionally to that they not even care.

MaryLou?

dude, give it a rest…how many times do i have to flag you?

im sorry, i’m dumb because??

Kristen on set of Cosmopolis pic: http://bit.ly/pTYleE. Note Eric Parker’s trailer and Rob’s bodyguard, Dean. Twitter was abuzz with Kristen sightings last night as well. I think it’s safe to say that she DID go to Toronto, and not Vancouver/Montreal/London for some unknown reason as the anti-shippers would like people to believe.

you dum becuase what bes. bes . an you bes. lol. so there it be you briteless star. you mus face piles an piles of triles with smiles cuz it riles peoples to beseech the wickered web they weeve. keep on thinking you free. you know what miss lady bugzee i think way down in the deepness of you mind nex to the coper webs you have a small but noticible likeness for the wimbell. wont choo. you ak to me i not care what that silly joebobsquirrel girl an 3tontina who be 1968 pounds say. you have a nicesity way bout you that be repealing to somes

If she’d come more than a month, there’s nothing to be surprised of. I’ve got the impression that she doesn’t know what she wants. Ah, women… The thing I didn’t expect to see is that they cropped halh of his hair and the eyes of his fangirls. Their irises are hardly visible! If they were on drugs… Dammit…

If she’d come more than a month, there’s nothing to be surprised of. I’ve got the impression that she doesn’t know what she wants. Ah, women… The thing I didn’t expect to see is that they cropped halh of his hair and the eyes of his fangirls. Their irises are hardly visible! If they were on drugs… Dammit…

I find it very disturbing knowing that so many think that if you’re not together 24/7 that you are not in love anymore…whats with all the army relationship where they do not see each other for month..what is wrong about that …Rob has to film every day and nights …there is SKYPE

that is true…there is SKYPE and ooVoo (i think its called), so it’s possible…but idunno. im out

Summit is sweating bullets, a break-up is going to hurt BD.. they have broken up. He is with cc. Wake up all.

Rob doesn’t Skype, he’s said so and his friends tease him about it. Since his email got hacked he doesn’t do anything online like Skype, FB or Twitter. So they haven’t been Skyping. Quit making excuses for them. The were apart for 6 weeks, get over it. You have no idea if they’re in a good place. She dropped in to make a booty call, what’s the big deal? They’ve still never said they were a couple. So whatever they’re doing, they’re sneaking around doing it. That doesn’t sound like an epic romance it sounds like friends with benefits. And if you have as much money as they do, flying around to meet up with someone for a couple of days isn’t a big deal.

i saw rob sucking a werewolve’s penis at a gay club in Toronto!

agree! i just made hashbrowns…

Check out CaitlinC latest blog.
This is so pertainning to Pattz. K should move on to a better guy.
No I´m not a Krisbian nor a Robssesed fan.
Just a former Robsten believer who is opening her eyes & seeing the difference.
Pattz is so over Stew no matter what acting they are doing on ComicC press.

Kristen, you are beautiful & talented & can do better but deserves a better man.

768.

Caitlin’s blog post Fri, Jul 29, 2011, 8:24 PM

“This City” * Toronto, you know you’re awesome. There’s lots to do in and around you. You smell sometimes, but I forgive you. We’ve had our fun, and we’ll have our fun again… I just need some space. It’s not you, it’s me. Stop crying! I’ll be back soon!

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Maybe because it’s not so false. 10 % true. Maybe it’s better to look at the numbers than words.